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manner about unauthorized contacts between the ex-president and mr. clark. i mean there was clearly a process, and, you know, you heard this from jim comey, he wrote about it and talked about it. he tried to have a process so the president wasn't always calling the fbi director to tell him to let flynn go. the failure of any process to protect institutions from being politicized seems to be a pattern that keeps repeating itself. i wonder what you make of sort of the now detailed, anecdotal evidence of trump having his man at the highest levels at the justice department and, you know, do you wonder what would have happened if he had succeeded in getting rid of rosen and leaving clark inside? >> remember what had happened under attorney general barr. barr was complicit and helped the president move the big lie before the election and after the election until he couldn't take it anymore in the final days. so, again, i'm really delighted that we have such public servants who saved us from the

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