>> raf, you are talking about censoring, i was thinking of what happens in china or in other parts of the world, where it just goes black when they have a message that is undesirable at this going. how are russians getting counter or anti putin messaging, if any, right now? pu>> russia it's not china. the level of chinchar censorship is not at that level. there are a number of independent media outlets still operating in this country. but it is an extremely difficult environment for russian journalists, or trying to give an unvarnished furnish version of the news. who are often running up the narrative that the kremlin kremlin wants put out. it's a tough environment right now. people do have vpn's. they are able to see news from overseas. but it is largely russian state media that is what people are getting their news from. and that is presenting a very
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