>> he felt that it would be better to just go for a ride or to go out and have his car wired. >> reporter: so police did just that. then hid a transmitter in the trunk so the detectives could follow and listen in. >> test, test, test. >> reporter: 9:30 p.m. matt picked up cyndi at her house. >> how's it goin'? >> well, you know. kids are finally passed out. >> reporter: they went to a bar where matt turned on a phone app to capture the conversation while they weren't in the car. >> well, i'm gonna get a beer. >> i wanted us to all be comfortable together. i hadn't seen her in years. >> reporter: he didn't push too hard, didn't probe. >> this is just my second drink. >> reporter: for now he was just an old friend, catching up, till, past midnight, then -- >> i drove her home and, y'know, she didn't get out of my car, which is good, but it got to the point, it seemed like an hour in where she wasn't saying anything. uh, anything relevant.
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