versus for example the summit he had with the leader of china last week. senior administration officials says biden was clearly reaffirming the one china policy. but ambassador, it's interesting. so china is threatened or upset by the united states' democracy inviting taiwan, a democracy, to a meeting about democracy. what's the threat for china? >> well, china sees taiwan not as a separate country. and china sees taiwan as an island over there that is democratic, but from china's perspective is chinese. and that's the main reason why china feels taiwan should not be invited separately to this summit. >> right. it's kind of like what it had the view of hong kong, and we know how hong kong has ended up. last -- >> right. >> earlier this week the president of the international
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