>> don't you feel responsible for furthering the violence of that cause? >> thank you for checking on us. >> this is only my second time meeting with jeff. i'm still trying to figure out if he's real. >> don't we have a responsibility of the ideas we put out into the world? >> there's so many things i want to say, so i'm probably going to be all over the place. >> that's hrt. we're here to talk about these things. it's confusing time. i've been through it. >> i feel in a lot of ways i have wasted my life. >> white power! >> jeff reminds me a lot of myself. we're both the same age and mid westerners who embraced the white power movement when we were teenagers. but i turned my back on hate when i was 22, while jeff continued to rise through the ranks, taking control of the national socialist movement when he was just 21.

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