breaking your heart. it's sort of like a dull ache all the time. you're like, i'm just like everybody else. we're human. >> but we have to keep going, right, zerlina? i mean, we have no choice. for me it's like, yes -- this is a dark day, there have been many dark days, and this is, like, we need to understand this is the long haul, the long haul. and so we have to remember, right? whoever you feel rooted in, for me it's frederick douglas all the time. so find the person and realize -- look at the struggle. that means we may get tired or may be crying all those times, cristela and i talked about the tears. today i'm crying, but tomorrow something else is going to happen because this is the long haul. >> it is the long haul. sha var, one of the things that came up earlier today that's related to this, that's a side issue but connected, is guns,
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