misconduct. >> that's exactly right. so it's a fair question to ask these witnesses, whether or not they spoke directly to the president or participated in all these meetings, to show that their knowledge is limited. that doesn't mean that what they said is untruthful. and to your point, nicolle, she is the victim. she's patient zero. it's a great way to think about her. this is what started the process. and so of course the answer would be she didn't speak to the president. he wouldn't have, you know, given her what she was entitled to, which was an explanation for why she was removed from a job she was doing well. he doesn't have that sort of grace. >> we know he knows who she is because he smeared her in a call with zelensky. >> absolutely, and did it again today. and so i think it's really interesting to think of her in that way. her knowledge will be limited. she's the victim. >> claire, you've been as impassioned as i've seen you, watching this testimony this morning. what are you looking for in the second session?
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