donald trump stumble or fall as a result of some of these indictments. look, we have not seen anything wound donald trump, including the indictment by the bragg, in fact, it actually helped him. desantis, pence and others are thinking if there is a world that 2024, where defendant donald trump either loses his liberty, in which case, he could still run, but perhaps, at that point, he's knocked out, or for some reason, he's not able to carry through the republican primary that pence and desantis want to be there. nobody is going to take him on, republican politics don't believe any of these charges against donald trump, part of trump's ethos within the party, you can't trust anybody but me, and it's worked. look, you've got pence or desantis, we're gonna run healthy races, flattering donald trump, hoping they don't end up with a hoping the end of the bride. >> debbie, well all of that is going on, you have democrats beginning to cultivate and hone in on this there, message, a new piece from jennifer reuben, she dives into that messaging.
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