research and steele himself were basically pro trump or pro republican at least. >> yeah, you know, we all think it's ivanka trump, and i think it's more an acquaintanceship than a friendship. chris is a super polite british person who when contacted reciprocates and often will -- if you wrote him today, joy, you'd get a christmas card in the next week. so it's important to remember, though, that chris, when he was hired by us to look at these matters, he didn't know that we were working for donald trump, which is a super germane fact that people -- >> sorry, working against president trump. >> so he didn't know who the ultimate client was? >> no, we didn't tell him. it became obvious, eventually, but, no, it's a part of trade craft that you wouldn't tell someone who was the subcontractor, who the client was. you wouldn't want to influence their thinking.
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