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standard. >> don't misuse information. >> that's matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union. chairman steele, can you please explain, what's up with your party? >> oh, i need the couch for that one. >> well, you've got 30 seconds. >> no, you know, what's up with them is that they're in defense mode. they do not -- the facts do not support the arguments that they're making. you have republicans now in the senate who are looking at this saying, well, yeah, the president may have had this conversation, but again, to matt schlapp's point, it wasn't a crime. well, this isn't about committing a crime. this is not like violating some statute or some regulation. this is about how the president of the united states used his power and authority under the constitution to leverage against, you know, for his own personal interest. so that takes it to a different

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