>> okay, can i ask you a quick question on timing? >> yeah. >> that harry teased, right. there is a back and forth about a possibility of some sort of re-man. what did you make of that? >> well, i think it's because in the civil context, this same court recently decided an appeal with respect to three cases brought by former police officers, members of congress, who have sued trump civilly. and in that case, and fine -- you know, the civil rule is that a president does have immunity within the outer perimeter of this official duties. because of, that they sent it back to the lower court to determine, what, what was he doing here? was he acting in his official capacity, or some personal capacity? that makes sense where you're talking about the civil rule. but, here the court has to fashion the rule in the first place, right? judge chutkan's lower court decision says there is no criminal immunity of any kind. so it's unclear whether they will need to re-manned at all. and they're supposed to take these facts as true. >> all right, charles coleman, lisa rubin, thank you both, that was great. still to, come the
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