the problem is, the post office is not really a public business, it is a public service, like a fire department, but postal service is actually in the constitution. article one, section eight, it should not have to turn a profit to survive, it just needs to deliver the mail. some of us have been shouting this from the roof tops for more than a decade. >> the post office is running between the weight of a 2006 law, which -- for the next 75 years, which amounts to another 5.5 billion dollar annual obligation. i think there is a sense in which at a time in which the nation is extremely polarized, in which are sort of social fabric is extremely stretched. the post office stands out as a kind of lone, civic institution, that is shared. that is a shared space. we all participate in. and there is something really upsetting about the notion of that going away. >> look at bat. all of 15 years old, talking with my hands. this postal service has been a slow death spiral for more than