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planet will not get cooler, it will at best stay the same. if we want to bring ourselves back to the climate niche that gave rise to human life in the first place, we're going to have to actually remove quite a bit of carbon. that's hard to do and expensive to do right now. this plant is sort of a pilot plant. but if you imagine 50 or 75 years, 100 years down the road especially with a lot of public support, in theory we could do that. we could restore the climate, not just stabilize it. >> the c.o.p, the c.o.p. conference happening in glasgow, i know you've been covering it. they're hard to follow. if you think legislating with a democratic majority is complicated, try getting all of the world's countries to agree to stuff. but at the broadest level what do you see is the main thing to look for in this conference? >> the thing i'm most focused on

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