trump was -- his circle was shrinking. the pool of qualified people was shrinking. and so he put people around him who was willing to do his bidding. and what these tapes reveal, it's another set of data points and i have a feeling we're going to see a white house, whether it's the chief of staff or mr. trump himself with a full-time job of calling people, elected officials, state election officials, legislators trying to overturn the election. mark meadows is -- it's gravely disappointing and of course we'll need to hear much more about these phone calls, emails and others, trying to persuade people to say the election was fraudulent when 60 courts or more said it was not. >> yes. congresswoman, how do you view the former acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen? some democrats have hailed him as a courageous whistle-blower, but he didn't come forward
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