crazy but exciting experience. >> your publisher, rupert murdoch was on friendly terms with trump at the time. what was that like having to try to get this up to the top and get approval? >> truthfully, we did not experience any pushback. the bigger issue was can you report a story about a porn star in the wall -- journal. it was the same things that alvin bragg is saying right now. this isn't a trial about . it's really about money and records and trying to influence an election. >> did you ever feel physically threatened when you are investigating trump? was your security compromise at all? >> no. in fact, -- i mean, it could've been because trump was less likely to attack the wall street journal then he was to