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giving president trump sort of an off-ramp, a way to explain how everything evolved on january 6th, to basically say it wasn't me, it was the advice i was getting? >> yeah, look, marc short is trying to normalize what was unconstitutional behavior and frankly an authoritarian coup that failed. the voice of mike pence and marc short now are welcome because they are stating truth. but few people in this country had greater access to stopping what occurred between the election in november and the inauguration of joe biden than mike pence and marc short. so i think history will recall that they did very little when they had an opportunity. but their voices are welcome. but now, go under oath and testify openly in front of the american people on the january 6th committee. that includes you, vice president mike pence. >> that is tbd, we'll see what happens there. meantime, this week, as you guys know, it was all about the national archives giving the january 6th committee those documents. those documents had been ripped apart and had been taped back together, at least most of them.

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