Revealing how the Democratic National committee worked behind the scscenes to discreredit and dedefeat Bernie Sanders. In an exclususive b broadcast inteterview, we speak to wikileakss julian n assange wo posted the 20,000 internal dnc emails online. Then we look at Hillary Clintons newly named running mate. Mrs. Clinton i have to say that senator tim kaine is everything donald trump and mike pence are not. [cheers] qualified to he is step into this job and lead on day one. He is a progressive who likes to get things done. That is just my kind of guy,. Amy we wiwill host a dedebate betweeeen jess mcicinosh with te Clinton Campaign and Norman Solomon, cofounder of the bernie delegates network. He is a california delegate. All of that and more, coming up. Welcome to democracy now, democracynow. Org, breaking with convention war, peace and the presidency. Im amy goodman. The Democratic National convention is opening today in philadelphia, pennsylvania, amid Massive Party turmoil. Dnc chair Debbie Wasserman schultz says she is stepping down following the release of nearly 20,000 emails revealing how the Democratic Party favored Hillary Clinton and worked behind the scenes to discredit and defeat Bernie Sanders. The emails were released friday by wikilileaks. In one email, dnc c chief Financial Officer r brad marshal suggested someone ask sanders about his religion writing , for ky and wva can we get someone to ask his belief. He had skated on saying he has a jewish heritage. I think i read he is an atheist. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a jew and an atheist. In other email shows dnc staffers suggesting planting a news story that Sanders Campaign was a mess. Bernie sanders reacted to the emails during an interview with Abcs George Stephanopoulos sunday. Mr. Sanders i told you a long time ago that the dnc was not operation, that they were supporting secretary clinton. So what i suggested to be true six months ago, turns out in fact to be true. I am not shocked, but i am disappointed. Amy Democratic Party vice chair Donna Brazile will act as the dncs interim head through the election in november. Well have more on the emails after headlines with wikileaks founder julian assange. Hillary clinton named virginia senator tim kaine to be her running mate on friday. Kaine was elected to the senate in 2012. Before that he was the chair of , the dnc. The two spoke at an event in miami saturday where kaine spoke in both english and spanish. Kaine code hello, m miami. Hello, fiu. [speaking spanini] [cheers] amy that was senator kaine saying welcome everyone, in our welcome everyone, in our country, right . Americans. Re all the words of tim kaine, speaking in miami saturday. Kaine learned spanish when he spent a year in honduras with the jesuit missionaries during the u. S. Backed dirty war in 1980. Many believe kaines fluency will help him with the latino vote, although a univision poll in found nearly 7in10 latinos 2002 say a candidates ability to speak spanish would not affect their vote. Meanwhile, many progressives are concerned about tim kaines track record of supporting free trade agreements, including voting to fasttrack the tpp. Well have more on tim kaine later in the broadcast. A new cnn poll shows donald trump pleading Hillary Clinton 44 to 39 in a fourway matchup. Gary johnson received 9 . Dr. Jill stein receieived 3 . This comes as donald trump has defended Donald Ailes Roger ailes, who has resigned amid multiple accusations of Sexual Harassment. This is donald trump speaking with msnbcs chuck todd. Mr. Trump i dont want to comment, but he isis been a frid of mine for a lolong timime andi can tell you some of the womomen how are complaining, i knkn muchch he has helped them and dv recently, and d when they write locks that are fairly recently released and theyey say wonderfl things about him and now all of a suddenn to say t these horribe things about him, it is s very sad. Hehe is a very good person. I have always found him toto bea very, very good person. By the way, a very, very talentnted person. Look what he is done. I feel badly. My campaign is doing pretty well. Amy about a dozen women have spoken to the New York Times about experiencing Sexual Harassment at fox news. Reporter said roger aiailes begn one and ended every meeting by hugging and kissing her. Meanwhile, trump also told chuck todd that he expanded his call for a ban on immigration during his speech at the rnc thursday. This feels likeke a slight rollback. Should we interpret it as that . Mr. Trump i dont think so. You could say it is an expansion. People were so upset when i use the word muslim. Ok becausees im im talking teterritory i instef muslim. But just remember t this, our constitutution is great. But itit doesnt necessarililye us thehe right to commit suiuic, ok . You know,a religious, everybybody wants to be protectd and that is grgreat and that iss the wonderful part of our constititution. I view it didifferently. Why are we committing suicide . Amy former ku klux klan grand wizard david duke is running for u. S. Senate in louisiana. Duke said hes overjrjoyed to e donald trump and most americans embrace most of the issues that ive championed for years. Earlier this year, donald trump refused to disavow david dukes support, although trump has since repeatedly disavowed him. Meanwhile, retired lt. Genereral michael flynn, who was on Donald TrumpsVice President ial short list, has sparked controversy by retweeting an antisemitic message. On sunday, he shared a tweet reading cnn implicated. the ussr is to blame not anymore, jews. Not anymore. The tweet was a reference to Hillary ClintonsCampaign Manager claiming on cnn that russia was behind the dnc email hack. Flynn deleted the tweet and apologized a few hours later. Two people were killed and at least 16 wounded in a shooting early this morning at a nightclub in fort myers, florida. Police said they were investigating the shooting and did not offer a potential motive or suspects for the attack. The attack at the blu nightclub comes a little more than a month after a gunman attacked a nightclub in orlando, killing 43 49 people in one of the deadliest Mass Shootings in u. S. History. Afghanistan observed a a nationl day of mourning sunday, a day after r a suicide bombmber killt least 80 people demonstrating peacefully in kabul. The Islamic State claimed the attack. It is their first claim of an attack in afghanistan. The demonstrators were asking the Afghan Government to build a highpower electrical transmission line in the impoverished Northern Province of bamiyan. This is jawad rezayee, the relative of one of the bombing victims. Yesterdays incident was a tragic incident against the movement of justice. This is the first attack against a justice movement. We have lost many of our family and friends here. We have come here to bury our martyred and name the hill the martyred hill. Amy memorials were held this weekend in germany for victims of a mass shooting on friday near a Shopping Center in munich. German police say 18yearold ali sonboly killed 9 people with a handgun in an apparently random attack before killing himself. An investigator said sonboly appeared to have been obsessed with Mass Shootings and begun began planning his attack after visiting the site of a School Shooting that left 15 dead in the german town of winneden. The shooting took place on the fifth anniversary of a mass shooting in norway that left 77 people dead. Police said sonboly had pictures of the shooter, anders breivik, on his computer. Police also said sonboly had been hospitalized for two months last year for psychihiatric car. Sysyrian Government Air raids sr the weekend struck five medical facilities in and around the city of aleppo. Five people were killed in the strikes. The syrian observatory for human rights said all five clinics remained closed after the bombings. Physicians for human rights says 750 medical personnel have been killed in syria so far 698 in attacks carried out by Government Forces and their allies. Inin the uniteted states, the fy of a north miami autistic man who police say was the intended target of an accidental shooting has been traumatized by the incident. Last week, arnaldo riossoto, wandered ayy from a group home. When police arrived, kinsey was lying on the g ground d with his handnds in the a air and told de no one was armed and that the man was s playining with a toy trucuck. Anan officer opepened fire, shog the behavioral therapist, kinsey, in the leg. The policece later said thee offificer meant to shoot the autistic man, who was cradling his toy truck. Since the shooting, riosssots fafamily said d he is not slsleg or eating. G. His sister miririam soto said e spoke to a local news organization. Up p to your mistakes. Let people know youre trying to change because this is not the first time it has happened. When i got home i noticed d my m was crying, nervous. She had no answers. Later on, they realized it w a toy. Amy and today would have been the 75th birthday of emmett till, the 14yearold African American boy from chicago who was murdered on august 28, 1955, when visiting his aunt and uncle in money, mississippi. Till was abducted, beaten and shot after he allegedly wolfwhistled at a white female store clerk named carolyn bryant. His corpse was found three days later in the Tallahatchie River with a bullet hole in his head, barbed wire wrapped around his neck and a cottongin fan , weighing down his body. His mother mamie till mobley, held an opencasket funeral for her son in chicago, and the published images of his brutalized body galvanized the civil rights movement. This is mamie till mobley. I believe the wholele Unitedd States is morning with me. And if ththe death of my y son n memean something to the other people all over thee world, then your him to have d died a hero would mean more to me than for me that he just died. Amy person emmett till, if he had survived, would have been 75 years old today. And those are some of the headlines. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, breaking with convention war, peace and the presidency. Im amy goodman. Juan and i am juan gonzalez. Welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. The Democratic National convention is opening today in philadelphia, pennsylvania, amid Massive Party turmoil. Democratic National Committee chairwoman and florida congresswoman Debbie Wasserman schultz has resigned following the release of nearly 20,000 emails revealing how the Democratic Party favored Hillary Clinton and worked behind the scenes to discredit and defeat Bernie Sanders. The emails were released friday by wikileaks. In one email, dnc chief finanancial ofofficer brad marsl suggested someone ask sanders about his religion ahead of the kentucky and West Virginia contests. Brad marshall wrote it might may no difference, but for ky and wva can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a god. He had skated on saying he has a jewish heritage. I think i read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a jew and an atheist. In another email, Debbie Wasserman schultz calls sander Campaign Manager jeff weaver a damn liar. Amy a third shohows National Press secretary mamark paustenbh writing wondering if theres a good bernie narrative for a story, which is that bernie never ever had his act together, that his campaign was a mess. Multiple emails show the dnc complaining about msnbc coverage of the party and of Wasserman Schultz, with Communications Director luis miranda once writing f ing joe claiming the system is rigged, party against him, we need to complain to their producer. Referring to joe scarborough. Other emails suggest the dnc was gathering information on sanders events, and that a super pac was paying people to counter sanders supporters online. On sunday, Bernie Sanders reacted to the emails during an interview with Abcs George Stephanopoulos. Mr. Sanders i told you a long not ago that the dnc was running a fair operation, that they were supporting secretary clinton. So what i said just did to be true six months ago, turns out in fact to be true. I am not shocked, but i am disappointed. I also said many month ago, for a variety of reasons, Debbie Wasserman schultz should not be chair of the dnc. And i think these emails reader rate that reason why she should not be chair. I think she should resign. Chair who need a new is going to lead us in a very different direction. Amy wikileaks has not revealed the source of the leaked emails, although in june, a hacker using the name guccifer 2. 0 claimed responsibility for the hacking into the dncs computer network. On sunday, however, Clintons Campaign manager claimed the emails were leaked by the russians for the purpose of helping donald trump. We go now to london where we are joined by wikileaks founder julian assange, who has been holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy for more than four years. He fears if you attempt to go to ecuador, if he attempts to step foot outside the Ecuadorian Embassy he will be arrested by , British Police and ultimately extradited to the United States. Where he will face, well, it is believed possibly treason chargeges for the documents wikileaks has released. Julian assange, editor in chief of wikileaks, welcome to democracy now can you talk about this email thesese 20,000 emailsls youe released . It isisuite remarkable what has happened the last few days. I think k is is quiuite a classicacal release showiwing te p pristineof producing resentingng them b before the publblic for thehere is s acceso all journalisists a and to intereststed members of f the pc. And have them where they can be used t to prop up c criticisms r critical arguments. That haves ththe case to do a lot of marketing of the material we publish ourselves to get t a big impact. In this cacase, we kneww becauaf the pendnding dnc, becacause ofe degree of i interest, w we did t need too establish partnershshis with New York Times or Washington Postst. In f ft, it could be counteterproductive. Rather, we analyzed itit, verifd it, made it in searchable form to present i it for all journanalists and ththe public. And that is what has happened. Juan julian, your reaction to the announced resignation o of Debbie Wasserman schultz shohory after the releasase of these emails . It is interesting. Were seeining it with h a lot f otother puicications. I guesess there is a question, what does ththat mean for the rt democraticartyty. It is i important for there to e examples of acaccountability. The resisignation wawas an exame of that. Of course, hilillary clilinton s tried to i immediately proroduca coununter example by putttting a ststatement withthin hours sayig ththat Debbie Wasserman schultzs a great friend and she iss incorporating her into herer campaign, she is going to bebe pushing for r her reelection to the congress. That is a a very interesting signaling by hilillary clinton that if youu a act in n a corort way, the benefits are clinton, you will be taking care of. Why does shehe need to put that out . Signally, it is not a that h helps with h e public,t hess with unity at the dnc. To hillaryyal clinton partitins to keepep on goining on, you wiwill be takikg care of. It is s a very destructive sigil for r a future presisidency bece it effectively iss expanding the window of corruption. It doesnt really matteter what you dodo, how you behave, as log as that is going to benefit Hillary Clinton, y you will be protected. Amamy it is very intereresting because Hillary Clinton and tim kaine appeared together as mike pence and donald trump did the week before on 60 minutes. Clinton distanced herself from all of these emails in the dnc saying, these people did not work for me. Yet immediately upon the forced resignation of Debbie Wasserman schultz, she said she is a good friend and immediately hired her. Lian, i was wondering if you could say from your point of view, what a are the most significant emamails that have beenen released, that yoyou have released . I think the most sigignificat ones have nonot been reported o, alththgh, the wwashington p p late last nighght andnd mcclatc, the fifirst initial stab at it. This is the spreadsheets we released covering the Financial Affairs of the dnc. Those are very rich documents. There is one spreadsheet called spreadsheet of all things. It includes all of the major u. S. All of the major dncnc donationsere the were, who they are. It identifies the total amounts. Particular events, whether that event was being pushed by the president or someone else. That effectively maps out the influence structure i in the United States for the Democratic Party. But more broadly, becausese thee are e few excepeptions in ththed states, make sure ththey done eo both partieses. That is going to provide a scafaffold for future investigative journrnalism about influence within the United States in general. , clearly, a lot of the emails talk about the actual amount of money that were being offered to donors for the asked of donors for the opportunity to set a different events next to president obama, especially, the use of president obama as a fundraiser. Most people in the political world will consider this business as usual, but the actual mechanics of how this operates and the degree to which the dnc coordinates with t the president , his marketability, i dontt think it isis ever been revealed in n this detail. Would d you agree . Thats right. Presisidentt just the holdlds fundraisers. S. That is s nothing new. T ratherer, what y you get for each donation o of a particularr sort. Therees eveven a phrasese usen onone the emails of paiaid to play. I think it i is extremely intereining. There are emails backandforth betwtween the h hillary clintntn campaiaign and the dnc. You see quite elaborate structureses of money ining to states dememocratic party, the officerers, and tnn teporteded back. Seeminingly to maybe evade certn campaigngn fding r restrictiono. In relatation to what t has bece the most significant political discussion as a result of the publication, which is the dnc higheruups, i including debbie wasssserman schultz, or clearly against bebernie sandeders and tryiying to susubvert his campan and mamany ways. Ththat is true. The atmososphere thatat is r red by hundrededs of emails is that it i is totally acceptable too offduce internall criticisms Bernie Sanders and discuss w was to underermine h campaign. U up ther thahat calling presesident of msnbc, Debbie Wasserman schultz z called thehe present of msnbc to hold morning joe i into line, whih subseqequently it has donene. Thisisorning, Mornining Joe discussesed it themselves, tryig to shore up their own presentation of current you know, a tv program that cant be pupued around. D. But in fact, they did not mention the call to the president. That was something that is still unspeakable. Flip in thatdegree coverage. And you see other, you knonow, quite naked conspiracies against Bernie Sanders. There has been some discussion, for example, that there was a plan to use to expose bernie , asers as an atheist opposed to being a a religioiouw , and use that against him to undermine his supporort thehere. There was anan instruction by ye head off communications, luis miranda, t to take an antntibee sasanders story that had appeard in the press and s spread that. Ound w without attttribution not leavining fingerprinints on. Ththat was in anan traction mad. It was not just t a plan that my or may not have been carried out. This wasas instrucuction thawaws pushed to dndnc staff to coverty get ouininto the mediaia. Amy on sunday, hillarys Campaign Manager cited next for saying the dnc and nails w were leaked by the russians in an attempt to help republican president ial nominee donald trump. Mookok was speakaking to cnn. Whahat disturbining to us is experts are tetelling us that rurussian state actors brbroke o the dnc, stole these emmails, and other experts arare now sayg that the rusussians are releasig these emails for r the purposof actutually helping donald trump. I dont think it is coioincidenl these emails were released on at at our convention eve our r convention. We saw trumpmp and his allies me changes to the republican plplatform to makeke it more prorussiaian. We saw h him talkingng about h nato should not intervene to europeanr eastern allies if theyre attacked by russia. When you put it together, it is a disturbing picture. Sayingat was robbie mook the dnc emails were leaked by the russians, citing experts. You are the one who released these 20,000 emmails, julianan asassange. Where e did you get them . What t is not in that clip is just aftfterwards, he was askeky jake tapper, who a are thesese expertrts . Can yoyou name them . The answerer was, no. O. A refusalal to name thehexperts. We assume onone of the experts, socalleled experts, that the toocratic pararty is trying babase its incredible e consrary theoeory on about wiwikileaks. And ththat is,s, what we jokingy dicpick as t the nsa guguy. He is a former n national secucy agency agent who startrted to produce c conspiracy ththeories about us inn 2013 when we were involved in the e Edward Snowden rescue, asas a means to try to undermine e the snowdenen publblications. In aquently, embroiled pornograraphy scdadal. That is whwhy they do not want o name experts, because theyre people like this. In relation n to sourcrcing, i n say some t things. A, we never r reveal our sourceces. Knows no one knows who our sourcee i is. It is simply speculalation. I think it is interesting and acceptabable to speculate whohor sources arare. Bubut if werere talking about e dnc,c, there are lots of consultants who have access. S. The dnc has s been hackedd dozes and dozens of times, even according to i its own reports t has been hahaed extensively over the pastst few years. The dates o of the emailsls the published are significantly b but one of thel hackcking allegegions thatt thec says have occurred. , i wantnt to mention in m march, you launcnched searchable arcrchive for over 30,000 emails an emailil attachments sent to and from Hillary Clintons private email server while she was secretary of state. The 50,547 pages of documents ton the time from june 2010 august 2014, 7500 documents were sent by Hillary Clinton herself. The emails were made available in the form of thousands of pdfs by the u. S. State department as the result of a freedom of information act request. Why did you do this and what is the importance from your perspective of being able to create a searchable base . Become thes has rubble libraryry of alelexandri rebel l library of alexandria. Itit is the sine e most significant cocollectionon of informatioion that does not exit elsewhere. E. In a seahable, accessible form aboutt how modern institutions actualally behehe. It has gone on to o set people freeee from prison. Accountab for , elelectionrograms cycles thahat have resululted e termination or can 200 to the termination conontributed o thee termination o of some. Civilization can only be as gooood as our knowlee of w wt our civivilization is. We cant possibly h hope toto rm that which we do not understand. Emails,llary clininton they cononnect together with the cacables we have publisheded. Creating r rich picture e of how Hillary Clinton performinin office. But more b broadly, howow the u. Departmentnt of statee operates. Example, the disastrouous absolutelyly disastrous ininterventionnn libibya. The instruction of the mmmmmar qaddafi govnment whh led to weaponspation of isis, ing ovov to syria bngng phed byillary cnton into syria, inuding isis. It is s the emails. As well as more than 10 sils in Hillary Clinton coectionust abouibya one. Amy we cut you off earlier wh you we talking abouthat you feltlt w the mos signicant emails th you he released. Ishere any last one u woulul lilike t menon . Also, you havany thouts donald trp . Aust bore we wt toir n pl came o that says dona trump iad by five illaryge point of inton. He d just co off the republicic conveion, that many ll it the wor conventn in story so it isot automat he suld ha had thi percenge lea you havehe cris, the sarray, e democric party isn becausof the eails at youave reased. D. Y arere askge, d do i prefer chole o gononorea . Peonallylyi woulprefer neithehe orksks know w w politics in thehenited ates. Whever p pitical party gds and d the vernrnnt is gointo erge with bureaucracy, be in a posion w whe it has somee leversrs in its hands. As a result, corporate lobbyist will move in to help control those levers. So it doesnt makake much difference in the end. What makes the difference is political accountability. A general to terrence detroit sent to stop political organizations behaving in a corrupt mannener. That can make a difference. That changes the perception of what you can do or not do. Well, almomost always, you shouould choose the principled position, which is discipiplinary signal l about ag in a corruptpt w way and take a philososophical philosophphil positionon thatt we e n only bes good a as our understandnding or institutionsns. The other amamy go ahead. Thehe other top eails. As i said, i thinknk this structionn byy luiuis miranda, e head of communicatitis, to go s spread covertly antibernie sandndersropaganda is a clear insnstruction combind with ahahain of cocommand. It is not simplyly expressing a sentiment. It iss expressing instruction withthin the dnc to subvertrt te bernie Sanders Campaign. En there a are a lot of emails about t the close relelationship between the dnc and d the memea. The e Washington Post involved in the c cofundraisingg party r snbc durininglling u up the middlele of progogram and saying, pull that statatement n. Debbie Wasserman Schultz calling up the p president of msmsnbc ad order disciplpline morning jojoe executives. That wesomeththing suspect happenens, but this isis coconcrete proof o of it. I realal encouragege people to research the m more t than 8000 attachments that wewe have put t separarate files, including more than 135 spreadsheets. That hashehe real core, the financial corere of the power strucucture and the exercise off infnfluence over thehe dnc. That is something that is going to feed journalists for years. Amy julian assange, thank you for being with us, founder and editor in chief of wikileaks. You can go online at democracynow. Org to read the transcript or to hear agagain either the audio podcast or the this, see the video of interview. We are broadcasting from the Democratic Convention in philadelphia. It is the first day. It will l be gaveled in and jusa couple of hours from this broadcast. I am amy goodman with juan gonzalez. When we come back, a debate. Stay with us. [music break] amy our generation by john legend and the roots. Ththis is democracy y now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace reportrt. Im amy gogoodman with juan gonzalez. We are in philadelphia, pennsylvania. Juan with the Democratic National convention about to begin here in the city of brotherly love we look at the , state of the Democratic Party. Many Party Officials were hoping to use the convention to display party unity after the long primary fight between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. But the past 72 hours have been surprisingly tumultuous. On friday, Hillary Clinton named virginia senator tim kaine to be her running mate angering many , Bernie Sanders supporters who had hoped she would have picked a more progressive Vice President. On that same day, wikileaks released 20,000 internal Democratic National committee emails showing that some Party Operatives worked behind the scenes to discredit and defeat Bernie Sanders. Amy then on sunday, florida congresswoman Debbie Wasserman schultz resigned her post as Democratic NationalCommittee Chairwoman just hours before she was set to chair the Democratic Convention. Party vice chair donna brazil will act as the dnc plus interim head through the election in to november. Talk about these issues and more, we are joined by two guests. Jess mcintosh is the director of Communications Outreach for Hillary Clintons campaign. Norman solomon is the coordinator of the bernie delegates network. He is a delegate from california. There has been a great deal of disarray in the Democratic Party ,jess. As a result of the imos released by our previous guest, by julian assange. Can you talk about what is happening right now . Lookingnk democrats are forward to the week ahead. I am glad we moved past the story yesterday. I think Debbie Wasserman schultz did not want to be the story, so she resigned. We saw a lot of very positive comments coming out from both former, both camps, now on the same team. The bernie folks and hillary folks saying donna brazil was an excellent neutral choice. Hopefully, that means thihis wek we get to focus on our really compelling message of putting Families First and working for an economy that works for everybody, not just those at the top. Because last week was terrifying. I want to make sure that we take this minute when the American Public is tuned into obviously, if youre watching this show, your tuned in all the time. But most folks, this is the beginning of it. Were going to be able to show a really clear contrast between the republicans last week, if we can focus on what our messages this week will stop we have some amazing speakers tonight. We will hear from senator sanders and Elizabeth Warren. I think will be a dramatic difference. Juan norman, your reaction to the past week . I think Bernie Sanders is having a big meeting before the opening of the convention. Talk about that. We are expecting a lot of discourse today, publicly and privately, and through the week. Theres no doubt a very sharp contrast will be drawn between the democrat and Republican Party nominees and hopefuls. That is a high jump over the standards, anybody almost would be a contrast to donald trump. I think a political context for all of this is that areas a real possibility that donald trump could be elected president. And some people, for w whatever reason, have convinced themselves it cannot happen. I remember when it could not happen that Ronald Reagan to be elected president. Beemember when it could not that george w. Bush will be elected president. I think the overlap between the clinton and the Bernie Sanders delegates, we understand the vital need to defeat donald trump. That said, the conduct of the Clinton Campaign in recent days is a continuation of a policy which is corporate, which is disingenuous, and represents the antithetical perspective from what progressives bring to the table. Leaked emails, even without the tim kaine choice which i think is highly egregious for many progressive standard there would still be enormous decision at this convention. The Mainstream Media thought it was going to be tranquil. No way. At the grassroots, people are very upset. Amy norm solomon, i saw you at a News Conference yesterday. Talk about the pickup tim kaine and then i would like to get jess response. Why are you so concerned . In contrast to the front page of the New York Times and Washington Post, so many progressives around the country are upset because rather than have any sort of all of branch, rather than reach out toward the 45 of the primary and caucus voters who opted for Bernie Sanders in the last many months some of the Clinton Campaign has stayed in the corporate mold, has chosen summit is for the vp slot who has opposed raising taxes on millionaires, who voted only one of a dozen democrats in the senate that voted for fasttrack last year. Thosedy who denigrated who want a more progressive Economic Policy as losers. This is a guy who is very much in the clinton corporate mode, so have to get real about how she has chosen i summarize it this way. To symbolic and substantive choices that her clinton as made in the last few days is to take Debbie Wasserman schultz out of the scandal and give not throw her overboard, but put her high up in an executive suite of the steamer she is running, and actually put Debbie Wasserman schultz in a high position of her own campaign this fall. That is a symbolic summing of the nose of progressive sensibilities and then the choice of kaine is a profound abuse of progressive constituencies that we are going to have to deal with for many years to come. I think we saw bernie Sanders Campaign manager said, were on the same page because right now were on the same page. Were on the same team. And it is so important that we talk about making our progressive ideals reality and stopping the barbarians that we heard from last week. That is what i want to focus on. I think it is the only productive thing to do. Sandersith the enthusiasm has done. I love the way it has pushed our platform father to the left. I believe in those politics and we have the most progressive platform that the democrats of ever had. Coming into convention, i want to celebrate that. That is what im going to do. I think tim kaine is someone we are all going to get to know a lot. I thought his big speech with hillary on saturday was absolutely wonderful. I love the fact that he is a is aal from virginia who civil rights attorney, which is something i did not know, who is focused on immigration and housing discrimination and redlining. I think the are things to love about every possible pick, but i am excited to hear from him. Im looking forward to the ticket. Juan i would like to ask about the issue of the platform. It seemed to me there was quite a few changes from the original clinton platform as result of the pressure of Bernie Sanders on a variety of issues social securityty, minimum wage, collee tuition. So there was a substantive change. I guess your perspective is thee tim kaine choice was tacking too much to the center . Theres only one decision that Hillary Clinton and her forces that have have been made that cannot be weaseled out of, and that is her choice for Vice President ial pick will stop the platform is important, but at the end of the day, we dont remember platforms. I dont think theres any question we have the same enemy donald trump, the neofascist, racist campaign of donald trump. We have the same enemy, the clinton and the sanders delegates. But we are not on the same page. When you read that platform, especially the foreignpolicy platform dictated by Hillary Clinton, it is a warmonger platform. Lets be blunt. There should not be a nano second between progressives in a prospective or actual Hillary Clinton presidency. We have to oppose all of these wall street a militariststic policieses that are embodied, frankly, and what Hillary Clinton is saying and doing. Amy Jess Mcintosh . I disagree. Theres a reason why Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are going to be on station night, why are campaigns are coming together to not only does he donald trump, but do exciting things that put family first for a change in the country. Theres a lot to talk about in terms of the democratic platform. I think we will talk about the economy, national security, learn more about Hillary Clinton. As much as she is saturated politics for as long as ive been paying attention to politics, theres a lot about her biography that people dont know. Her motivations and what drives her and the early fights of her life. I think we will your a lot abobt that from her friends and family and the people she has helped along the way. This is an incredible woman. Coming from the feminist wing of the progressive movement, i want to celebrate that, too. Were nominating a woman for president for the first time. I think we have devalued people who put women and Families Center in a platform in the progressive movement, just as we do everywhere else. I think it is incredible to have a moment to do that. I am really looking forward to this week and working with my friends in the bernie Sanders Campaign. I think we are exciteted to hava the together the end of day. Amy were going to go to break and come back to this discussion. Our guest Jess Mcintosh are norm solomon of the Clinton Campaign and, a Bernie Sanders delegate from california. Stay with us. [music break] amy this is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman with juan gonzalez. A whole wheat from ththe democratic conventioion as we dd in cleveland with the republican , expanded to our dadaily brbroadcast. This week from philadelplphia. That is where the Democratic National convention is taking place. Our guests as we talk about the Hillary Clinton tim kaine candidacy, are Jess Mcintosh, who is with the Clinton Campaign. She is the director of two medications outreach for Hillary Clinton. And norm solomon a bernie , sanders, delegate from california. A woman candidate, would be the first woman president. Norman solomon . I doubt that tonight or duriring the week k we will hear that she was of very goldwater enthusiast. She said she is proud of being a supporter im sorry, a 16yearold im talking about Hillary Clinton. She e said at one point, when hr husband was governor of arkansas, well, for gosh sakes, all lawyers have to represent banks on the board of walmart, on and on and on at their most walmart era of unionbusting and a antiemployee operations. All that said, i think were got to look at the fact that in swing states, voters will decide whether donald trump becomes the next president of the United States. And we have to recognize that with all of our necessary challenge to Hillary Clinton and the forces she represents in swing states from a progressive standpoint, if you want to stop chomskyascist as noam said, you hold your nose and vote for Hillary Clinton. The first woman president. Margaret thatcher was a woman, as far as i know. Important to be hillaryunderstand that has always centered women and families and her politics. She did it as an editor and secretary of state and when she decided to become a lawyer for the Childrens Defense Fund when she got out of law school. She did it when short for the mcgovern campaign. I think sometimes our movement does not give that work the same amount of credit. Would you say she did that when to push for the welfare reform in 1996 that decimated the families of poor women and children . Was that advocacy for women . I think she did a lot of good work as first lady to put women and Families First. I think it is time for this debate to be done, just like your candidate and my candidate says. Theres a difference between candidates and we love bernie. Were not going to pipe down. As bernie says come all significant social change comes from the grassroots, not the top. I dont intend is been any of my time to to you why had issues with your candidate or the reasons why was so excited to support mine over yours. Theres a difference. Yours will be, we hope, the next president of the United States. We have to get in a mode of saying, not for a moment we accept destructive policies out of some sort of misbegotten party loyalty. So were arguing on the margins of holding our elected officials accountable. But i do think it is important, in fact, for our movement to celebrate the fact that we have done something revolutionary. This week we do something revolutionary. A woman is going to take the nomination for president from the Democratic Party. And that is a really it is historic. It is also important. Ghandi was important. Women examples of war leaders who happen to be women who exacted enormous youre going to vote for Hillary Clinton, i am assuming. In november . I live in california. Theres no reason for me as a progressive to vote for Hillary Clinton. I assumed you are in the fight. I am in the fight. If i lived in virginia were florida or ohio, i would vote for her clinton absolutely. You dont think it sends an awesome signal to tell your daughters her granddaughters were the children of your friends that you got to pull the lever for a woman who you thought would do a better job advancing your ideals than the other guy on the take it . Im excited about that and i think it is more than ok. I think it is important for our movement. I think women and girls need to be excited about this. It is a tragedy we dont have a role model who is not corporate and militaristic who can become president of the United States as a woman. Juan i would like to ask norman in terms of the conversation we had earlier about donald trump, your assessment of what that signalion last week, the is sends to the American People and what the opportunity is for the Democratic Party to present a different perspective or signal this week . I think the contrast will be clear because the amplifier of voices of racism, of xenophobia, of hostility to immigrants, of misogyny in some important respects, this is a major difference between not only the conventions, but the two constituencies. I think the people on the left sometimes forget. They start talking, oh, were going to have a thirdparty in it will defeat trump. Nonsense. It is up to us to find tactical ways to do that. In the case of the Republican Party, we have to recognize those forces. It is not just to is going to be president. They fill hundreds of cabinet members to elect donald trump is to empower a racist base in this country and give them enormous power. We have to make sure that doesnt happen. Amy who will you be voting for . I know i wont be voting for donald trump or Hillary Clinton because it is a amy who will you vote for . I will have to make a decision, but it wont be either of those two. Im excited to cast my ballot for Hillary Clinton. Threecited she won more million votes than Bernie Sanders did in the primary. She got more superdelegates. This is a week were going to come together and she is happy to talk to the people who went the other way. I think we will carry on those conversations and it will be a really unified party going forward. Amy what can expect at the opening today, Norman Solomon . Theres been a lot of talk among bernie delegates with the gambling opening of the Democratic Convention gaveling opening of the Democratic Convention by Debbie Wasserman schultz . If she speaks today, she will not be well received. Received, itly will be welldeserved. In a way, shes being made a scapapegoat appropriaiately because she has been egregious, is, wow, she represents and working for and now shifting for the dnc over to the Clinton Campaign formally but her role is not changing. She is working for a corporate militarist candidate. Ashink we recognize that delegates for Bernie Sanders. Amy Jess Mcintosh . Obviously, i disagree entirely. I think this week is about advancing g a Progressive Agenda and im sorry youre not on board, but im excited to be here. Amy we will leave it there but this discussion will continue. Jess mcintosh, director of Communications Outreach for her Clinton Campaign and thank you to Norman Solomon, Bernie Sanders delegate from california coordinator of the bernie , delegates network. That does it for our broadcast. Democracy now is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. Email your comments to outreach democracynow. Org or mail them to democracy now p. O. 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