Right now. And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Has always stewart combined pretty staying with performing and writing. The bestone of selling duos in history. He started releasing solo projects. His latest takes its inspiration from blues and country as well as rock. It is called lucky numbers. We are going to hear a cut from that later. I am glad to have you back on set. Have you been good . I will come to the music in just a second. A little birdie told me you are about to start a bank. When did artist get into a king . About four weeks ago. Get into banking . About four weeks ago. It is a Global Community bank for creative. It is like looking at the other end of the telescope. Way to fix the Music Industry or the downloading of tv or films. Basically the cat is out of the bag. The whole world has changed. I think that is the most rubble for a lotroblematic of creatives. Lets say you have everything in place. You just need the money for a script. The complication of being at the mercy of huge corporations that say, we will finance it. Now we own 95 . It is just like a startup. If you think of silicon valley, with people inventing various bank dating farmers back to 1910, the farmers got together and said, hang on a minute. They formed a community bank. It is about people who understood their business. There has not been a concentrated effort to understand the business. Run your own little empire with books and tv show. Nd radio it has taken a while to say, i am tavis smiley, and i created this stuff. It is for people like you. That is why i am here. As soon as the door is open, i will be here. Can you look back and see a place and time when having those kinds of resources might have been good for you . Glory, but they dont know your story. My partner, who is a cochairman is the chairman of we s we credits and he said, you should mention it. When annie and i were broke and we wanted to make a record, it ill bug,eet dreams and we had nothing, and we said, localnt we go see the bank manager. Things we all the wanted to buy, which came out to 4800 pounds. It was a mixing desk, and a tape,tape, an 8 track and we said, if we made this we wouldnt have so much debt, and he agreed. He gave us 6000 pounds. Dreams theet album. Story. It is a rare it wont be so rare. Tavis it is a great story. What has it told you over the difference for a . Anker to give you those 5,000 there is a big disconnect between creativity and commerce. I wrote a book that was on here. It is hard for creatives and artists to concentrate more than 30 seconds in a meeting about finances. They are busy doodling a picture of their grandmother or whatever. Onis very hard for people the financial side to understand whether an idea is something that is worth investing in. If an unknown wonders in a bank and says, i have got an idea. An alien with a long finger who wants to go home. Life of pi or avatar or these films that went on to make billions. Or the graphic novel that went on to become spiderman. There has always been that cap between the two worlds, but things thatarious have been happening and the internet and the fact that people can see transparently a lot of stuff, and they can find information about how things work, a lot of creatives are creative people are getting more knowledgeable. Now everyone is like a little starter company. There is kickstart her and all kickstarterngs and all of these things that make the climate right to launch this kind of thing. Tavis you werent there when i needed you. Cowritten by tavis smiley. Going to be fully there for folks who have Creative Ideas who need that. The things you are getting to do. It is it her and twisted. And twisted. You standing in my shoes to see what a drag it is. Wrote a songtewart on the spot on national television. We got the book signing. I walk out of this building tonight we are going to finish writing this song, and it might be on your next record. Exactly. Tavis all jokes aside, i have always been so envious of people artists writers, i feel this way about authors, particularly those who write fiction. How that happened in front of my face is mind boggling. You are doing so many interviews with different people, and you have to get all this information and digest it, and the thing you do is improvisation on the spot. A transcription it would be bigger than that mohammed all leave book ali book. Tavis printed at the vatican. , youbook is so massive cannot lift it up. The only place in the world a can actually print it was on the Vatican Printing press. It is amazing. It talks about how he would like to be remembered. We digress. This is not a false sense of modesty. When i conduct these conversations, i am not doing it myself, number one. I start with something. You just created something out of the ether. I was going with what you said. Songs,u are writing script writing and stuff like , it is usually based on their own life like woody allen interpreting things in his own life and putting them in a different context. In some ways it is the same, but it can be a real pain. You are having a martini, having a great time, but suddenly someone says something, and you write that line, and you socket bits of paper with lines on it, you wake up and you have you pocket bits of paper with lines on it, and you wake up and have them. A song like sweet dreams comes from where . After we met with the bank manager and got the equipment, one thing was the drum machine, and annie was lying on the floor of the picture framing factory. We didnt have much money to rent a big studio. Annienny thing was when was doing a vocal, she would be singing a line. We got it done. I had this drum machine. I was trying to make it work, and i was thinking i was going to do something with a back the. After a while i was saying, that sounded good. And he leapt up and said, what was that . Inspiredsudden we got and went on one keyboard. Then i got another keyboard, and the first words that came out of anys mouth were sweet dreams are made of this. In 50 minutes because the conditions around you were making noise. Discoveriesgreat come from mistakes, in science as well. This is working for a cancer patient, but it was developed from something else. What the hell. It is a matter of realizing when to change. Some people dont realize and are going further and further up the hill. Great things are going past them and they dont see it. Tavis how is this solo things going for you . I love it. As soon as i arrived in therelle four years ago, was an icelandic eruption, and i fell madly in love with the place. This is the sixth record i have made in nashville in three years. I decided to fly the guise of the next era meant out of as anle guys experiment out of nashville. After about an hour, he is going, i have to lie down. I am a great believer in the made sure we all had a vodka martini, and it seemed to give everybody sea legs. I want to see the design. You did this over 12 days on a boat. Sailing around on a boat. Work all thelly time. Martinis have a double effect. It cures the seasickness, but it is all fax james bond seemed to be on his game. I have been trying to get to perhaps he was Drinking Water in the movie. I make a perfect martini. Not very many people know how to do it. Tavis you have to tell it on tv. Every time i go to a bar dave stewart will now tell you how to make the correct martini so when he comes into your bar you can make it. Do not scrape in the melted ice. It has water in it. I want hard ice from the freezer, and i want three olives in the glass with a little vermouth. Let the olive soak in the vermouth, and then throw the vermouth away. You put the ice cold vodka in the hard ice from the shaker, and you shake it like crazy, not a little bit shake like crazy on both sides. Then you should see tiny fractals of crystals on the top of the martini when you let go. You shouldnt see lots of ice floating around. Dont put the glass in the freezer, because it just comes out and meltwater in your glass. Melt water in your glass. That is why i am bringing the machine. Grill, therereman was a cappuccino machine. I am bringing out the cappuccino machine. It will have hard ice. You put your glass of vermouth, drop in a couple of olives. Darling, i am home. Tavis i love talking to you because it is so much fun, i always learn stuff. Have you always been this innovative . Was there the that happened that open this up for you . Was there something that happened that open this up for you . My parents said i always had a hundred was going on. My mother would be doing the dishes, and suddenly i would throw an nest with birds and say, eggs three times a day, and she would be left with a birds nest, and i would be back with something else. It is probably in the genes. To this want to go back record. You did this over 12 days. Tell me about the content, the music itself. When i am writing songs and recording them i dont spend years trying to write the songs. I dont look at the rolling, misty mountains thinking, how can i save the world . Or wherever,a boat and i have an idea, and in more than 20 minutes i have it all and i correct a few words, and it is done. That is what we did on this album. Video, whichepic is basically set in a circus, and all of the songs came allling out. They are distillations of a moment in my life. I could quickly write in a privateform something it turns into a song. I like making tiny things and trying to make them big rather than writing about epic things. Every i suppose songwriter could write about his or her life, but what is it to you that makes your life so interesting as lyrical fodder . I am a gambler and an adventurer, so i have operably done lots of stuff that brings in rich content, so stuff i cannot even mention. , sos taught me a lesson maybe dying when i was younger. Those lyrics are very powerful. Idea when i came back with a gospel choir to give it spiritual uplift at the end. Will play on the acoustic guitar. I think it is funny. It is called how to ruin a romance. Flying to tiny plane devon. We were writing ideas for films and laughing, and i said, this will be a good film title. Later i found the title in my pocket when i was on the boat, and i wrote things that happened and friends that messed up a romance. Before you play that, because our time is up. I could do this for hours. He is always so much fun to talk to. Is called lucky numbers the track he is about to perform is called how to ruin a romance. He for he does that, think you for coming back. Angeles from los before he does that, thank you for coming back. Good night from los angeles. How to ruin a romance i got my chorus part. Go ahead. It you been lonesome and complaining, someone get you a blind date, you been worried how you going to rate it turns out shes an angel but youre too dumb to speak you didnt even kiss her on the cheek thats how you ruin a romance it easy, but its true thats how you ruin a romance and end up with the blues well you made a stack of dollars, you were on a winning streak, you throw a party acting like a sheik you tell your driver to take her home now shes married with three children thats how you ruin a romance its easy but its true thats how you ruin a romance and and updating the blues end up dating the blues martinis,hoping down she is slowly drinking wine, her eyes are sending shivers up and down your spine, she asks for music, you feel like a rock n roll star, but dirty minutes later you are still chewing your get 30 minutes later you are still chewing your guitar thats how you ruin a romance its easy but its true thats how you ruin a romance and end up dating the blues thats how you ruin a romance but you always knew how to ruin a romance i guess i ruined it with you thank you, dave. 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