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Major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by xq institute. Bnsf railway. And with the ongoing support of these institutions this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Woodruff its not a state of the Union Address, but it has most of the trappings. Tonight offers the new president his biggest moment since the inauguration, to tell americans what he wants to do as the president , and possibly to turn around impressions after a bumpy beginning. John yang begins our coverage, from the white house. Reporter President Trump spent today getting ready for primetime tonights address to a joint session of congress. Its a busy day, and tonight will be a rather busy night. We look forward to it. Reporter Senior Administration Officials Say hell tout the Campaign Promises he has kept in his five weeks in office and offer an optimistic look into the future. In a fox news interview that aired this morning, he acknowledged some shortfalls, specifically on his immigration order. I think i get an a in terms of what ive actually done, but in terms of messaging, id give myself a c, or a c . Reporter in a lunch with Television Anchors and reporters, including the pbs newshour, mr. Trump said the time may be right for an Immigration Reform bill if theres compromise on both sides. On health care, officials said the president would outline guiding principles, but offer no specifics on repealing and replacing obamacare tonight. On capitol hill, a number of republican conservatives balked today at what Party Leaders are considering. We didnt tell the voters that we were going to repeal obamacare, but keep the medicaid expansion. We didnt tell the voters we were going to repeal obamacare and keep some tax increases. And we certainly didnt tell the voters we were going to repeal obamacare and start a whole new entitlement. Reporter despite the divisions, House Speaker paul ryan was upbeat. This is a plan that we are all working on together; the house, the senate, the white house. So there arent rival plans here. Were all working on this together with the administration. I feel at the end of the day, when we get everything done and right, were going to be unified on this. Reporter Administration Officials said that mr. Trump wont offer many specifics on tax reform, but will address the need to improve the nations aging infrastructure. What im anticipating is a optimistic and upbeat portrayal of what america could be, with the kind of changes that we are in the process of implementing, as you know, on regulatory reform, on repealing and replacing obamacare, comprehensive tax reform, and of course, the supreme court. Reporter but democrats say americans should listen carefully to get the real message. We fully expect the president will offer populist platitude after platitude. But talk is cheap. Tonight, the president is likely to use populist rhetoric to mask a hardright special interest driven agenda. Democrats and the American People wont be fooled. Reporter mr. Trump will also push his plan to beef up the military, raising defense spending by 54 billion and cutting domestic spending and foreign aid. In his fox news interview, he said his policies can spur the economy and raise new revenue. I mean, you look at the kind of numbers were doing, we were probably g. D. P. Of a little more than 1 , and if i can get that up to 3 or maybe more, we have a whole different ball game. Reporter meanwhile, the president wielded his pen today signing executive orders to begin the process of overturning an obamaera waterway protection rule, and to return oversight of aid to historically black colleges and universities to the white house. President trump was still adding to his speech late this afternoon, including considering whether to add language about an immigration compromise that he talked about. Officials say the speech could run as long as an hour and 20 minutes, and although hes calling for deep cuts in domestic spending next year, Officials Say the speech will include a call to the government to expand manned space exploration. Judy . Woodruff john, you and i were at that lunch with the president today and other Television Anchors and correspondents. We were all i think struck by the fact the president brought up the issue of an immigration bill and talked about how hes decided this is something the country is ready for. Thats right. He seemed to be. This was a trademark campaign issue, talking tough on illegal immigration, and he seemed to be open, according to Senior Administration officials who are familiar with his thinking, he thinks the time is right because people are tired of this issue, theyre tired of us talking about it. They want to solve it. These Officials Say the president believes that the top top tough enforcement of immigration laws that he wants to carry out could help the effort by reassuring those that this is not going to be opening up the borders, that he is still tough on immigration. Woodruff some needle threading to be done here. John yang, we thank you. Sreenivasan at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, Lisa Desjardins is on capitol hill in statuary hall. Lisa . Lisa, what are the members you spoke to today expecting from this speech. I think its more what they hope to get from it tonight, hari. Some republicans and democrats told me they think the president needs to reach out to those that oppose him. Theyre feeling divide and rancor from their spits. Also, hari, a lot of the regular order republicans would like more detail from the president. This is a place where words need to become reality, that means details. At the same time, Republican Leaders who spoke with the president say they dont expect those details in this speech tonight. Sreenivasan put this in the context of the times were considering what the Trump Administration has put forward so far. This is an important moment. Especially here at the capitol, hari, because right now two of the president s major pushes are hitting obstacle courses and speed bumps, thats the a. C. A. Repeal and replace. Republicans have not yet formed a final plan. There is disagreement. And the president s own budget, which he outlined yesterday, many republicans have a lot of problems with it, specifically Senate Republican leader Mitch Mcconnell himself made a rare open statement of disagreement with the president today when asked if he could support those potential cuts to the at the present Time Department and diplomacy that the president is thinking about proposing. Mitch mcconnell said he personally is against that, and also he doesnt think anything like that could get through the senate. Sreenivasan Lisa Desjardins, thanks so much. Woodruff in the days other news President Trump said he followed his generals advice in ordering a u. S. Raid in yemen that left a navy seal dead. He was asked about it, in his fox news interview. Well, this was a mission that was started before i got here. This was something that was, you know, just, they wanted to do. And they came to see me, they explained what they wanted to do, the generals, who are very respected this was something they were looking at for a long time, and according to mattis it was a very successful mission. Woodruff the raid had been in the planning stage for months. It took place five days after mr. Trump took office. Sreenivasan the president s cabinet gained a commerce secretary today. Billionaire investor wilbur ross easily won confirmation in the senate last night. After being swornin by Vice President pence this morning, ross said he hopes the democratic support he received is a sign of bipartisan progress to come. Woodruff the nominee for director of National Intelligence is promising his full support for a congressional investigation into russias meddling in last years election. Former indiana senator dan coats had his confirmation hearing today, and told lawmakers they will get all the intelligence they need. Russia has a long history of propaganda, and trying to influence various nations cultures and elections and so forth. Its a very key issue, that we understand fully what has happened and how it happened, and have full report on that. Woodruff coats also sought to assure senators that his office would not be swayed by political pressure. Sreenivasan the u. N. Childrens agency today laid bare the harrowing conditions facing women and children at migrant camps in libya. Unicef said armed groups have turned the camps into makeshift prisons, with widespread beatings, rapes and starvation. The report said for the thousands of Migrant Women and children incarcerated, the centers are living hellholes, where people are held for months. Woodruff the f. B. I. Now says it is investigating last weeks killing of an indian man in a kansas bar as a hate crime. That word came today, after the victims body was flown home. Hundreds of family and friends gathered to mourn the 32year old engineer in the Southern City of hyderabad. The case has touched off widespread outcry in india. The gunman who is in custody allegedly yelled get out of my country. According to a witness, he said he thought the victims were iranians. Sreenivasan back in this country, attorney general Jeff Sessions warned the country faces rising murder and Violent Crime rates, and he pledged to put bad men behind bars. In a speech to state attorneys general, sessions said police have turned overlycautious over fear of what he called viral videos. The department of justice has an absolute duty to ensure that police operate within the law, and if they violate the law, theyve committed a crime just as much as any other citizen who commits an assault. But we need, so far as we can, in my view, to help Police Departments get better, not diminish their effectiveness. And im afraid weve done some of that. Sreenivasan f. B. I. Figures show that Violent Crime rates have been rising of late, but are still far below the levels of the 1980s and early 90s. Woodruff former president george w. Bush says racism is tainting the Political Climate in washington, under President Trump. Mr. Bush tells people magazine, in an interview i dont like the racism and i dont like the namecalling and i dont like the people feeling alienated. Still, bush says hes optimistic the country will come through it. Sreenivasan on wall street, target and other retailers slumped, and led the Broader Market lower. The Dow Jones Industrial average lost 25 points to close at 20,812. The nasdaq fell 36 points, and the s p 500 slipped six. Still to come on the newshour a look ahead to President Trumps first address to a joint session of congress; white house efforts to support historically black colleges; students who live in one country and go to school in another, and much more. Woodruff our lead tonight is the platform being given the new president by the new republican majority congress, to talk to them and the American People about what his plans are. We look ahead now with four who also joined us for last months inauguration amy walter of the cook political report; president ial historian michael beschloss; karinejean pierre, a Senior Advisor to moveon. Org during the 2016 elections; and matt schlapp, chair of the american conservative union. Its good to have you all back together again now that a little bit of time has passed. Matt, im going the start with you. Youll been talking to the folks in the white house. What do they think the president needs to do tonight . I think they think its going to be a huge television audience, and that is a president that understands tv and tv moments. I think they understand he has perhaps some of his best opportunities to talk to his biggest audience about what he sees for the vision of the country. I think hes going to step become and show people his vision of where he wants to go. Woodruff karine jeanpierre, what are you looking for from the president . Well, im hoping that he reaches out to the people who actually did vote for him and finally bring some unity. He had an opportunity to do that. The last time we were all together on inauguration day, and he didnt. He totally went the opposite way. So if that could happen, i think that would be a step forward, but is far he has not appeared to do that for the majority of the folks who did vote for him or who didnt vote for him at all, which is a good 70 . Woodruff amy, does that sound like something that would make sense . To show that magnanimous side we have yet to see. There are some indications that may happen tonight, whether its as overt as maybe some folks would like the see, i dont know. Not only what you think of when you think about a state of the Union Address is its like a pinterest board, right, for the president. He puts on all his hopes and he puts them out there, and you dont get everything you want when you put it on a pinterest board, but at least youre giving folks an idea of your big overall vision. Theres Something Else he needs to do tonight, too, which most president s, even those early on, dont have to, which is to give the members of his own party some real structure, and it was interesting today in the new york times, tom cole, republican member of congress from oklahoma, longtime member, he said today the president must become an active participant in the legislative process. Hes saying, we members on the republican side, were with you, but you need to show not just where you want the country to go, but you need to show us where we need to go. Its not enough for the speaker and the majority leader to give us marching orders. We want to hear that tonight. Woodruff michael beschloss, compared to where other president s have been at this stage early in their presidency, are we hearing from this president compared to others enough about what he wants to do and how hes going to get us there . He hasnt had an opportunity like this before because what a state of the union is is this odd thing no other country has is because other president s are chiefs of state and also prime ministers. Those two roles are often contradictory. So the state of the union has offered a president the chance the say, these are things i want out of congress, here is milan dry list, but it gives a new president the opportunity to be seen as a president of the United States in congress. He gets very few opportunities like this. As matt schlapp said, hes going to have an enormous audience tonight. If he uses this opportunity not only to say this is what i want legislatively, but also those of you who are skeptics about me, even in my own party, those of you who voted against me, i can function as a president of all the people, this is one setting in which he has that opportunity. Well see if he takes it. Woodruff so matt schlapp, is there a sense that the president himself feels that he should be reaching beyond the base . We know the people who voted for him, the polls are showing, they like what hes doing so far. Hes having difficulty, though, with others. I think its important to go back and think about the fact that donald trump is a very different kind of republican. He already starts off this presidency having gotten the support of a lot of workingclass voters who dont always vote republican, but he doesnt always like to critique, well, you got the reach beyond. Hes already said, hey, ive already reached. We have a brandnew Coalition Building here. But i do think its a fair point that he ought to reach out to all americans, hes everyones president. Theyre going to have a National Security emergency before too long, its inevitable. Thats when we look to our president as commanderinchief to have that moment. And these moments are special, too, because with a big audience, he has a chance to tell people, here is why i have been elected and heres what im going to do. Woodruff karine jeanpierre, you were saying people look for him to reach beyond, are they willing to give him a second look . Im not sure because every policy that hes put forward, executive orders that weve seen in the past month have been very divisive and dark. It hasnt shown that people can trust what the president is going to be doing. Just looking at the traveling ban, which is a religious test, which has really destroyed many peoples lives. I mean, you go from the gag order, which is one of the first things that he did, which really attacked Womens Health issues on a federal international level, as well. So there are a lot of things that we have seen that is troubling. So im not sure if hes going to get there. Theres always this conversation about is donald trump going to be able to press that recent button. If i got a dime for every time somebody said that to me, i would be a billionaire and probably be part of the cabinet. And its just. He has not done that. I think theres lack of distrust, and were just not sure if thats going to happen. Nobody really thinks its going the happen. Woodruff amy, i was struck today with the lunch with the president that he did bring up on his own, immigration bill, the time is right. Maybe both sides are ready to compromise. It was a very different message from what we heard when he was talking about the travel ban. This is whats going to be fascinating, because you question was a really important one are people ready to listen to it . We know we have a very polarized country. This election highlighted it and it continues to rain today, but when you ask democrats, the most recent pew poll, what do you want your Democratic Leaders to do in congress, and 75 of democrats said, fight everything that donald trump does. They want democrats to put up a fight. And so even if the president reaches out and even if there are members on the democratic side that say, maybe i could work with you on this, theyre going to get pushback from their base. We talked a lot about the republican base, how committed they are to the president , but the Democratic Base is very committed to digging in against this president , as well. That is the challenge for donald trump now going forward. Woodruff michael beschloss, talk about that a little bit, because some president s have used opposition to their benefit. Others president s have been overwhelmed by opposition. Absolutely. Franklin roosevelt, you know, the patron saint of democrats, in the late 1930s said, my opponents are unanimous in their hatred for me, and i welcome their hatred. He used them as a foil. You might see donald trump doing that, but donald trump aint no f. D. R. , and he was not elected by a landside. And this is a much more dicey proposition than had he been elected, lets say, with upward of 400 electoral votes and been able to go into individual congressional districts and say, im a landslide president. This is someone who was not elected with a popular vote majority, a pretty puny electoral vote majority, so its a little bit hard to see him taking the strategy that might have been more appropriate had this been an election decided much more resoundingly. The only thing i would say to that is i think the number that matters, youre right about the popular vote and the electoral vote, but this wrongtrack number has been very steep, very negative for a very long time. There is something where americans are questioning what america means and where america is going, and does it play a leadership role, both from a National Security standpoint and an economic standpoint. I couldnt compare to the depression at all, but there is something there that is affecting our politics very deeply, and when donald trump looks very serious and is on offense and trying the tackle the basic economic questions in the economy, i think its hard for democrats, because theyre used to occupying that lane. Theyre used to occupying that lane. Woodruff karine, matt has a point, doesnt he . But reading from a teleprompter for 45 minutes does not make you the president that we all want you to be. He has to do actions. Its not just words. Its actions. And his actions havent matched up. Have you not seen all these actions . Ive seen a lot of these actions. But theyve been divisive and dark actions. Theres a reason why millions of people, a majority of people are in the streets. He really has to listen to us. Its a problem. You cant continue being divisive. And he is, like you said, a president for all. Woodruff amy, can he do what karine is saying and matt is saying . Hes. Theres a lot of action going on. Look, at this point in 2009, about 75 of americans said, i think that president obama will deliver change. More people right now believe that about President Trump. 77 now saying, i think that donald trump can deliver change. And by the plurality, not a majority, think hes going to deliver positive change. Democrats dont believe hes going to deliver positive change, but a plurality of independents do and a big majority of republicans do. So on this idea that matt is talking about, this idea about changing the wrong track the right track, there are more people than not that believe that even though they may dislike him personally, hes going the change things in the right direction or bring the right kind of change. Thats where hes going to have to perform. Independents are a little more willing to give him the chance. If he doesnt deliver, well, well see what they do. Democrats, not as willing and republicans are all bought in. Woodruff michael, it feels like were coming back to that point about how divided the country is and just how differently people feel about this one man. I think thats right. It could have been different, frankly. His inauguration, he chose the path of playing to his base, giving this very dark speech about what a mess, thats not the term he used that day, he used it later on. Woodruff but tonight they say hes going to be uplifting. Maybe that will change. Maybe this will be a different moment in this presidency. Were still fascinated on what he had to fox news about giving himself a change on messaging. That would suggest Something Different from what we heard at the time of inauguration and during his first month. It would be absolutely titillating if that happens. Woodruff its something everybody is paying attention to tonight. As matt said, the white house is expecting a big audience. We thank all of you for being here the look ahead. Michael beschloss, thanks for being here, karine jeanpierre, matt schlapp, amy walter, thank you all. Thank you. Woodruff and you can stay with us this evening by following twitter and right back here at 9 00 p. M. Eastern for our special live coverage of the president s address. Sreenivasan now, the role of americas historically black colleges, and what could, or should, be done to strengthen them. That was on President Trumps agenda today, and is the focus of our weekly segment, making the grade. As part of an effort to celebrate black history month, President Trump signed an executive order today aimed at helping historically black colleges and universities. Historically black colleges and universities have really pillars of the African American community for more than 150 years an amazing job. And a grand and enduring symbol of american at its absolute best. With this executive order, we will make h. B. C. U. S a priority in the white house, an absolute priority. Sreenivasan the order will move the Governments Program for coordinating h. B. C. U. S back directly to the white house. But the president did not commit any additional funds to the schools yet, some of which are struggling financially. Many of the president s are in washington this week, calling for 25 billion more in the upcoming budget. Historically black colleges and universities were established after the civil war to provide Higher Learning for black citizens who were deliberately shut out of most universities. Today there are 100 h. B. C. U. S. Nearly 300,000 students are enrolled in them. Every president since mr. Jimmy carter has issued executive orders on h. B. C. U. S. During president obamas tenure, he expanded pell grants for schools overall, but initially approved tighter loan conditions for black colleges and never held meetings with the group. It was often a rocky relationship. A number of h. B. C. U. S still are in financial distress. Johnny taylor, president and c. E. O. Of Thurgood Marshall college fund, which helps fund h. B. C. U. S, says the schools need more money collectively. We should be very clear, we want this administration to make good on money. You cant have mission without money. Sreenivasan after President Trumps meeting, his education secretary betsy devos triggered some new criticism. In a statement heralding the h. B. C. U. S, she called them real pioneers when it comes to school choice. Critics say her statement ignores the long history of segregation for black students and the underfunding of black schools. Sreenivasan lets take a closer look now at the president s executive order and the status of these schools. For that, were joined by johnny taylor, who was at the meeting and is president of the Thurgood Marshall college fund; and sophia nelson, shes a journalist who follows this, and is the author of e plurbis one reclaiming our founders vision for a united america. Johnny, let me start with you. Why is it important for this initiative to be back under the white house . You know, at the end of the day where you live matters in so many way, right . When we were in the department of education, it was three levels down. It didnt even report to the secretary of education. To me that said volumes about what the former administration and frankly former administrations thought about h. B. C. U. S. We judge you more about what you say, its about what you do, and so moving us to the white house sends a message to the entire country that h. B. C. U. s matter, and they matter to the most powerful person in the country, the president of the United States. Sreenivasan sophia nelson, its symbolic. Symbols are important. But its not cash. And cash and funding are what a lot of these president s are here rallying for. Im encouraged because yesterday during the press conference, sean spicer talked about them doing a review of the agencies. I have dealt with h. B. C. U. S in the past as an attorney. The money i think theyre going to is mostly in the r and tv space. Theyre going to look at department of defense and some other agencies. People think defense and h. B. C. U. S . Yes. I think the Trump Administration is shrewd. Theyre going the look for existing pockets of money that under past executive orders direct agencies to make sure that h. B. C. U. S are fully funded, and they havent been. Thats the challenge. So what i want america to understand is that the legislation or the executive action has been there consistently, but there is no enforcement of what the the agency is doing with the dollars. There is what im hopeful about. At least theyre going to take a look and say, lets find what were doing in the agencies and lets get this money directed in where its supposed to go. I really want to talk about the r d and the ffrdcs and all the stuff that meteorologist h. B. C. President s dont know about. There is a lot of money in the r d space. Theres money that goes to harvard, stanford, yale, and the h. B. C. U. S get 15 to 30 million of that. Thats tragic. Sreenivasan ultimately the white house has a small budget. It can recommend a budget, but ultimately we have to get to congress, which is why the first day is the white house. The second day is the Republican Leadership at the library of congress. Thats whats important because the president releases his budget in the next six or eight weeks. Then it goes over to congress. We have to get the money authorized but then appropriated. Lets talk about politics here a little bit. Too. If trump is able, if President Trump, let me give him his proper exrespect, i was on that with obama, if President Trump is able to come up with some of the r d dollars and give this more of a presence, hes going to score some points with an African American community that i think after the last election is a little bit not sure of which way to go. You saw this with the dnc direction with ellison versus perez. I think there was. You know, Stephanie Rollins blake wasnt reelected. So it was interesting, African Americans lost power. There was a sense that were the most loyal voting bloc the democrats have, and what are we getting for it, so trump is being shrewd. Sreenivasan speaking of that, the state of h. B. C. U. S, some saying the community was critical of president obama. On the plus side it is absolutely training some of the leadership that exists in the African American community today. On the minus side, the Graduation Rates for students just arent where you want it to be. So quite a few of these schools are in deep red ink. How do you get them back into even a position of stability before you can get them to thrive. Funny you mention that. Thats first thing we asked for when we met with the president and with the Conditional Group this morning. It was must be. Money. The fact of the matter it is takes significant resources to graduate students who come out of prek through 12 secondary systems where they were underprepared. You cantic peck to finish. These kids come in behind. Our schools have an extremely heavy lift. That costs money. Were not institutions with hunting endowments that can put a ton of resources around getting johnny ready so that he graduates in four years and is prepared to go into the workplace. We might take six years. That costs more money. So how do you do that when youre historically underfunded, currently underfund and youre enrolling in disproportionately high group of people that come from poorperforming k12 systems. I think there has to be a place for publicprivate partnership, Companies Like intel or at t. Who benefit. And professional companies that are severely underrepresented. People look like you and me. So i think those Companies Need to help these colleges develop centers of excellence and things like that that we have to start thinking out the box. Because as you said, h. B. C. S dont have the endowments the ivies do or the big schools you or i went to. So if there is no money, its fruitless. But this administration is wise the say, look, the executive orders starting with president Herbert Walker bush forward, theyve all directed the money there, but its not flowing there. Sreenivasan its not been appropriated. How does this not become toothless . You need the face time. You need the time to talk to the secretaries of education and all these different departments and say, heres those r d dollars that could come this way, too. Thats the numberone thing. Thats why its so important to be in the white house. When theyre having these staff meetings. When everybody is going to meet with the president. They have the walk past that initiative on h. B. C. U. S, its far easier not to think about it sitting three levels downed at the department of education. So for people who question why its so important, its in the about address in many way, its about who else is at that address youre moving too. Sreenivasan all right. Johnny taylor, sophia nelson, thank you both. Thank you. Thank you. Woodruff just days ago, the e. P. A. s new administrator, scott pruitt, promised an aggressive rollback of regulations that had been put in place by former president obama. The future, he said, aint what it used to be. President trump made good on his and pruitts promise today, with an order to dismantle a controversial obama rule about smaller bodies of water in the u. S. William brangham has the story. Brangham its called the waters of the United States rule, and it has to do with which smaller bodies of water, like streams and wetlands, should be regulated and protected by the federal government under the clean water act. That question has been litigated in Court Battles for years. For more on what todays move is all about, im joined now by Juliet Eilperin, whos been reporting on this for the washington post. Juliet, welcome back to the news hour. Before we get into the rollback, can you tell me what this rule is really about . As i understand it, this is a very big part of obamas environmental legacy. This is a 2015 rule, which has been subject to litigation, which tries the clarify what, as you eluded to, has been really a 30year battle over what jurisdiction the federal government has over these smaller streams, some are intermittent, some wetlands, and essentially what the federal government can tell americans, including farmers, ranchers, home builders, what they can and cannot do, even when it has to do with private property, because it has implications for small water bodies that are crucial water supply for larger water bodies across the United States. Brangham so is this about a rule trying to protect these waters from pollution . Is that the issue here . Partially its pollution, but what it pertains to many often is whether or not they can be drained or filled in. All of those actions, which are in some ways the inevitable product of these operations that happen in various different secondors of the economy, have implications for whether that water will then flow into larger water bodies. So it is usually a restriction on whether you can drain something or dig up something, as opposed to, for example, just dumping in pollute btses into a small water body, although technically it could apply the that, as well. Brangham i see. I know a lot of farmers and businesses and developers have said this rule was hugely burdensome to them. Is this an issue primarily of cost to them, or confusion about what rules were covered . What was the issue . It was a combination of both the costs that they might have to incur, but also whether they were permitted to do something or not. So you. One thing thats difficult is essentially these activities were being decided on a casebycase basis, and so you had individual operators, whether youre talking about someone who is operating a gravel pit or trying to expand a parking lot or do something on his or her ranch, all of those folks were engaged in conversationings with the Environmental Protection agency and the army corps of engineers, and sometimes the decisions didnt go the way they wanted to. There were fines imposed on them some there were these longrunning disputes happening across the country where the federal government was saying that in order to protect these sources of water, they couldnt do things or had to pay for some of the actions that they undertook. Brangham i understand environmental groups have been very critical of this rollback. What is their complaint . Their argument, and there are a lot of them, these water body, though it might be inconvenient to have restriction, were crucial has beened at the for everything from waterfowl, many migratory birds, aquatic species, as well as a source of Drinking Water for millions of americans. And so these groups primarily, Outdoor Recreation groups as well as many environmental groups worked extensively during the Obama Administration the get them to finalize this rule in the hopes that there would be an overarching standard that could be applied across the country that would provide more stringent protections for these streams and wetlands. Brangham so with President Trumps order, this doesnt immediately undue the rule, like tomorrow the rule doesnt disappear, right . It does not, although the sixth circuit has put a nationwide stay on the rule, so the rule has not gone into effect and will not go into effect, and, in fact, the order that President Trump signed instructs the attorney general to ask that court to simply hold that lawsuit in abeyance, essentially freezing this rule further while the two agencies that are charged with overseeing it look at whether they can undo it, although that again is an extensive process and will spur more lawsuits going forward. Woodruff all right, Juliet Eilperin of the washington post, thanks so much. Thank you. Woodruff stay with us. Coming up on the newshour documenting the Civil Rights Movement through powerful images; and airlifting bison to a new home. Sreenivasan but first, with stepped up enforcement along the u. S. Mexican border, there is more anxiety among immigrant communities that families members with different status might be separated. In new mexico, one small binational community along the border is working hard to keep families connected, through the schools. From public medias fronteras desk and pbs station krwg, Simon Thompson, originally from australia, brings us this report. Reporter daylight hasnt even broken, but 500 children who live in palomas, mexico, are up and on their way to school. Their commute is not typical. They must first cross the International Border into the u. S. They show their u. S. Passports and birth certificates. Customs and immigration officials inspect their school bags. Then theyre bussed to school in luna county, new mexico. Lizett preciado is a senior at Deming High School in luna county. A u. S. Citizen, shes lived in palomas with her parents for seven years. It is great to have the opportunity to go to school in the u. S. Because it is a lot better, it is lot more helpful. Reporter lizett and her family moved to palomas from colorado, after her mother, rosa Marie Preciado, was deported for being in the United States illegally. translated i felt really bad, really badly, because i have my four children, citizens of the United States, and my husband was a resident. Reporter preciados husband, ramon, makes their living in palomas raising goats. He still crosses occasionally back into the u. S. To work. Rose Marie Preciado says having her children educated in the u. S. Was very important to her and thats why they settled in palomas. translated a friend said palomas would be a good option to live with my children. It is easy to cross into the u. S. And there was a bus to take them to school. Reporter Armando Chavez is the principal of columbus elementary in luna county. He says the School District usually sees an influx of students when states enact strict immigration laws, as arizona did in 2010. We are sometimes the holding spot for them, for them to fix the papers correctly. We are dealing with children that come from south dakota, missouri; it can be any state that they come, but we embrace our children that come to our door every day. Reporter School Districts in texas and california also allow students living in mexico to come to school. But they often charge outof district fees or are private. For the u. S. Citizenstudents coming from palomas to school in luna county, the education is free. Many teachers in the luna county schools crossed the border as students. Ricardo guiterrez teaches the 5th grade at columbus elementary, the school he attended as a child. So now its my turn to give back to the community. Reporter gutierrez says getting parents engaged in their kids education is the biggest challenge. He opens his restaurant in palomas for parentteacher conferences via skype, and hosts live Graduation Ceremony watch parties for parents that cant cross. But not everyone living in the luna county area thinks state money should be used to educate students who dont live in the u. S. They are getting a free education. Reporter Luna County Republican Party chair russ howell says allowances, like the one being made by the deming Public Schools, motivate people to exploit birthright citizenship. They dont live in the United States, so that forces the state of new mexico to pay for their education, as well as those of us that are taxed in the luna county, to pay for them too. Reporter the new mexico state constitution requires Public Schools to be open to all the children of school age regardless of residence. Principal chavez says if there are concerns about students not paying their fair share, that is more reason to make sure theyre getting a good education. They are going to more than likely live in the u. S. We want to educate them. We want to get them to the highest level of education possible so they can be successful, so they can become productive members and contribute back. Reporter Rosa Maria Preciado says her three oldest children are already making their contributions; her oldest daughter serves in the u. S. Military and her two sons have careers in engineering and manufacturing. I am very proud, because i have a lot of family and almost none of their kids graduated from anything, not even high school. And i have two that graduated. And they have their careers. And that has made me very proud and given me a lot of happiness. Reporter lizette is scheduled to graduate next spring, and plans to study engineering at colorado state. Preciado hopes an immigration pardon waiver she is eligible for in two years will allow the whole family to reunite in the u. S. , but there are no guarantees. For the pbs newshour, im Simon Thompson in new mexico. Woodruff we often think of history as words recorded in a textbooks, but some of the most powerful stories of our past are told through images. As david c. Barnett from wviz pbs ideastream in cleveland reports, an exhibit at the maltz museum of jewish heritage documents a crucial period in the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s through the work of nine photographers. This little light of mine. Im going to let it shine let it shine, let it shine, let it shine Martin Luther king, jr. , let about 25,000 people into montgomery, alabama, in march of 1955, as part of a demonstration to promote Voting Rights. Government officials in several Southern States were trying to suppress the African American vote by making it difficult to register. Historianlessly kelyn leslie kelyn says a rigged literacy test often make it impossible. White people almost always passed, and about 98 of the black people failed. Kelyn is executive director for the utahbased center of art, which tells the story of the Voting Rights march and other events of the mid1960s currently on display at clevelands maltz museum of jewish heritage. The exhibition gives a behindthescenes look at everything from quiet moments to violent confrontations. The montgomery demonstration brings many memories back to 81yearold otis moss, jr. , who marched with king and for 33 years was pastor of clevelands institutional baptist church. Are evidence moss recalls a previous protest resulted in a vicious attack by state troopers, though he had mixed emotions as the march approached the city. It was a great moment of anticipation, acknowledgment of the danger, but also fully aware of the dangers. They walked into alabamas capital city without incident, thanks in part to powerful images of earlier violence that were printed and broadcast around the world. And it didnt hurt that the federal government had sent armed troops to accompany the demonstrators. The films and photographs focused global attention on the marchers and their safety. I think within the Civil Rights Community was the sense that now all of america and the world can see what we have been experiencing for decades. Here is the undeniable recording of human brutality that many people believe never happened. The picture becomes a message. A year earlier in june of 1964, a mississippi Voter Registration drive known as freedom summer attracted over 1,000 volunteers from outside the state, including a prominent jewish clergyman from cleveland. Rabbi arthur lelliveld went down the participate in freedom summer. He was a rabbi at fairmount temple. And he wanted to do what he could to help. And he was beaten. He happened to actually be with a photographer that day, and after he was beaten up and the photographer was, there he told them to take a picture and the capture that moment. David kordowski has spent over to 30 years thinking about the power of images and how best to use them in print. I think a photographers role is to take people where they cant go, but in this particular case, there is a large swath of america that just didnt know, never really had been covered before in such a way. And to get there, they have a frontrow seat to history bought there in the power of a still frame. Its just an absolute remarkable thing. These pictures of protests and sometimes violent confrontations between citizens and police are part of americas his for cal record, but some of the events of 50 years ago, documented by photography, certainly have a familiar ring. We cant look at these images without thinking about what is happening today. Like the image captured by a security camera, showing the shooting of 12yearold tamir rice on clevelands west side. This scene helped rekindle a National Discussion about race and justice in the same way that some of these photos on display at the malden evening at at th0 years ago. Theres a different sort of historical lesson that would be hard folks plain in the text of a history book. She is giving literacy instruction, preparing this individual to write his name in order that he will be able to register and vote. It inspires me beyond the description to see this scene and look at her hand over his hand. There is a volume of history tied into this one photograph. Images have the power to tell us stories about ourselves and others in a way that words cant always capture. For the pbs newshour, im david c. Barnett in cleveland. Sreenivasan now to our newshour shares something that caught our eye, that might be of interest to you, too. More than a century after they disappeared, bison have been reintroduced to canadas Oldest National park. The operation took a decade of planning, but went off without a hitch earlier this month. We reached out to the man in charge for insights on the project and where it goes from here. I am karsten heuer, and i am the bison reintroduction project manager for Banff National park. Banff is canadas First National park. Its a very mountainous rugged landscape and you know, has glaciers and spectacular peaks not unlike Glacier National park in the u. S. So bison, plains bison in particular, were here over 140 years ago, before they went locally extinct, at the same time as bison went extinct across the great plains. And obviously with one big major player, canadas largest land mammal missing, we wanted to try to restore that animal to the landscape. Our seed herd was from Elk Island National park. There is 400 animals there, in a plains bison herd. They are probably the most genetically pure plains bison after yellowstone in terms of their wildness. We targeted 16 animals, the vast majority of which are young females, so two and threeyear old females, all of whom are pregnant, and then we brought in six young bulls as well. So we have a breeding herd. And we did that because the single most important thing you can do to really make those animals anchor to their new home is to have them calf there successfully. One of the logistical constraints we had to overcome in this relocation from elk island to banff was the fact that there was no road access to the backcountry of Banff National park, where we are staging this reintroduction. We could get fairly close, within 20 miles, but we couldnt get right into the reintroduction zone. So we opted to do some modification on some tenfoot shipping containers. They could be plucked off the back of these trucks one at a time and then flown into the backcountry. And that flight was new for everybody, the bison and us. So we had to do things like develop a parachute system with a Helicopter Company that would drag behind the containers and prevent them from spinning while they were in the air. And then the helicopters left and it was nice and quiet and not a lot was going on, and then all the containers were opened. And that was a pretty magical moment when these bisons stepped out and their hooves hit the ground, back in a place where they havent been in over 140 years. We are actually going to feed and support these animals for the next 16 months, so they can calve twice and really anchor down into this place as their new home range, before we release them into the larger 1,200square kilometer reintroduction zone. As a biologist, to have the opportunity to work on a dream project where you are bringing back north americas largest land animal to canadas First National park is a tremendous sense of accomplishment. The bigger accomplishment is to have the foresight to actually make these kind of efforts unnecessary. Woodruff good for them. And on the newshour online over the last five years, the nations Opioid Crisis has gained momentum, despite federal, state and local officials attempts to control it. We recently visited baltimore, which has been held up as an example for its efforts to prevent overdose deaths, but is still suffering from its ongoing crisis. All that and more is on our website, www. Pbs. Org newshour. Sreenivasan and thats the newshour for tonight. Im hari sreenivasan. Woodruff and im judy woodruff. Join us online, and again here at 9 00 p. M. Eastern for special live coverage of the president s address to a joint session of congress. For all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you soon. Major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by bnsf railway. Xq institute. The ford foundation. Working with visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide. Carnegie corporation of new york. Supporting innovations in education, democratic engagement, and the advancement of International Peace and security. At carnegie. Org. And with the ongoing support of these institutions and individuals. This program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org welcome to the program. Im ian bremmer sitting in for charlie rose. We begin this evening with a look at the economy. Were joined first by larry summers. Theres a long history of president s proposeing vague, vague huge cuts in the discretionary budget. And then not being able to achieve them. My guess is that at the end of the day he wont get all the tax cuts he wants. He certainly shouldnt get all the tax cuts that he wants. And that he wont get Discretionary Spending cuts that he wants either. I unlike many people who i agree with on many issues think that some increase in the Defense Budget probably is a prudent

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