Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications rose and so you began how . Complete immersion. Rose is it luck at all or is it something jeels an unexplained metamorphosis. Rose whats the lesson here . Tell me the ssks o the significe moment. This was the week the republican president ial candidates debated for a second time. America prepared for a visit from the pope. And novak joke vif defeated Robert Federer for his second u. S. Open title. Here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. This is serious. Rose flooding devastates utah. This is one of the wo trst weatherrelated disasters in the history the state. The department of Homeland Security says it has disrupted a threat made against pope francis. Rose russia ups the stakes in syria. Its really a play by putin to inject himself into the Decision Making on the future of syria. Rose a powerful quake rocked chili. At least five months and a Million People out of their homes after a powerful earthquake. Rose sparks flied in the debate. Short, tall, fat, ugly my goodness. President obama welcomed three american heroes to the white house. We just want to say thank you to them for making america look so good. U. S. Open champion, double digit. Your new miss america is miss georgia siri, what should i ask tim cook . Do me a favor, ask him when im going to get a raise . laughter applause meet the new bs. Rose Arnold Schwarzenegger replaces donald trump on celebrity apprentice. Youre fired. Off the coast of the california a humpback whale and kayak, they were thrown from the boat just before impact. Ill be back in time. Rose a teens homemade clock sets off alarms. The student was taken into custody for possession of a hoax bomb. Im the person who built a clock and got in a lot of trouble for it. Rose we begin tonight with politics with the second g. O. P. President ial debate now behind them, all eyes are on the republicans. Reaction and analysis are still coming in. Heres how our panel saw it. Charlie, i think, you know, the theme, if there was one, of last night was the establishment strikes back. Cnn orchestrated a debate in which they wanted there to be conflict. They got conflict. I think theres no doubt that Carly Fiorina was the one candidate who broke through. She had the highest expectation. She had the most to gain, and she performed. The question is how much shes going to rise in the polls. But that she is going to rise theres no doubt. Rose jim . What i found most striking about last night, i think what this really did finally was set the stage for a gigantic debate within the Republican Party of its direction. We talk about it in terms of establishment versus insider, outside versus insider. In my lifetime i havent seen republican parties have debates over National Security this way, almost social issues. What i found really striking last night when you took all the bluster out, was giant, giant internal struggle within this party when you have the two frontrunners accounting for 50 of the polls right now highfiving over their opposition to the iraq war. I would absolutely agree. It was fascinating to watch on the stage for the first time, i thought, candidacies seemed to c kind of figure out how to take on donald trump just a bit, how to handle him. This is when a lot of them seemed to find their footing. As the debate moved into policy areas, moved a little bit away from the personalities, donald trump seemed a little bit adrift at times. He found his footing. Clearly he didnt lose himself on stage. But the other candidates seemed to find their place. Rose including ben carson . Ben carson was interesting. Hed seemed a bit quiet. Hed seemed a bit overshadow. We can have our assessment of how we think ben carson didding, but clearly something hes saying and something hes doing is rez 98ing with the voters, beyond the cosmetics or optics of what he looks like and sounds like on the stage. Rose what is Donald Trumps reaction to the debate other than telling cnn i think in a tweet, Just Announced that in the history of the cnn, last nights debate the highest rated ever. Will they send me flowers and a thank you note . Thats pretty typical. He hasnt been too terribly contrite. Charlie, i thought one of the really interesting dynamics there was the sidebyside comparison between jeb bush and donald trump. Jeb really tried to attack trump i think to very little effect, and he sort of caught his footing at the end of the debate, and then there was this incredibly weird moment where trump extends his hand, and instead of giving trump a handshake, it looked like bush took a whack at him. Rose robert you know the the Republican Party. You cover them. What do you think . Well, ive been covering trump since january pretty closely, and my sense is were watching an evolution of trump as a candidate. And he said he came to this debate prepared. He was preparing on Carly Fiorinas business record. He was ready to talk about bushs gubernatorial record. You see him sensing that the nomination is within sight. Hes hes becoming more subdued with his tone, still has that brawler swagger but hes becoming a different kind of candidate than he was in july. Rose pope francis begins his historic visit to the United States when he arrives from cuba tuesday. It was an eventfilled week that includes a meeting with the first family and address to congress, a speech to the united nations, and public masses in new york and philadelphia. Indications are that the trip promises as much substance as ceremony. Joining me from washington, father tom reese of the National Catholic reporter. What do we expect from the pope . What is the significance of this visit at this time . Well, the pope is coming as a pastor and a prophet. Hes coming as a pastor to pray with his people, to preach the gospel, which for him means reminding us about how much god loves us and cares for us, and how we should respond to that love by loving one another, especially the poor. But he also comes with a challenge, as all prophets do. Were the richest and most powerful country in the world, and hose going to challenge us about how we use our power, how we use our wealth. Are we a force for good in the world or are we a force for problems in the world. Rose lets talk about some of the people hell meet. Hell go tohe congress. Hell use that as a fortowm speak to american politicians. Yes. That is going to be a fascinating event because i imagine when he comes in and says, you should welcome the immigrant. You should care for the poor. You should protect the environment, the democrats are going to go crazy, like they do at state of the union messages. How are the republicans going to respond to this . On the other hand, if he says, you should protect life and every child deserves a mother and a fawct, the republicans are going to cheer, and the democrats arent going to know what to do. He doesnt fit easily into the categories of partisan politics in our country. I think he wants to transcend that. In fact, i think he wants to tell the politicians, get over your partisanship. Sit down. Talk to one another. And wk together to solve the problems of this nation and of the world. Rose this, clearly, some conservative opposition to him within the church and within the vatican and rome. He has talked about, and people who know him, other cardinals have talked to me about how he wants to change the dporching body of the champion. This pope is really changing the Catholic Church. In a sense, hes rebranding the Catholic Church. If you had asked people three years ago whats the pope interested in or what the Catholic Church is all about, they would have said, you know, opposition to abortion, to gay marriage, to birth control. He hasnt changed the teaching on that, but what he has done is changed the priorities. For him the priorities is concern for the poor, concern for the environment, concern for peace around the world. And hes also changed the style of being church. Its a much more compassionate message. He wants to preach the gospel. He doesnt want priests to act like judgmental bureaucrats. He wants tiews welcoming, to embrace people, to tal about gods love and compassion. Rose Justice Stephen breyer served on the United StatesSupreme Court for more than two decades. He generally sidwith the courts liberal wing. During the last term, he ruled in favor of both gay marriage and obamacare, and he made news when he questioned both the le legality of lethal injection and constitutionality of the Death Penalty. Judges are human and if were not prepared to accept that, we dont have a rule of law. What i say to the students on that, sisay i know 20 of you when i told you what i just told you, too bad there werent more riots. Before you come to that conclusion turn on the Television Sets and see what happens in countries where theres no respect for the the rule. Or they decide their indecisions that way. I see in front of me people who are committed deciding under law. Thats a great thing. Thats a great asset for this country. Its amazing. Its amazing, actually. Rose i know lots of people that wouldnt want to live in and certainly would not want to engage in transactions in another country that didnt respect the rule of law and did not have a system of law to express their grievances. Yes. Thats right. And thats thats you say its good for prosperity. Its good for human rights. Its good for a point of view of fairness. And the alternatives, if we turn on television, seem to be quite a lot worse. And the question is how do we keep it and how do we maintain it . And we have a great asset. I mean, who are we . Who are we as americans . I mean, you know, we didnt all descend from king arthur. And were not all descendants of charlemagne. Who are we . We are people, in part, whom Thomas Jefferson said and the founders said are engaging in an experiment. And when lincoln is at gettysburg, and lincoln says, four score and seven years ago, our forefathers brought forth on this continent a nation, perceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Rose all men. Thats what he said and he pointed back to the declaration of independence and he said we are engaged in a great war to see if this nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure. You see the astronaut we are an experiment. And we are here as an disperm to see, as an experiment to see if we can, in fact, so endure. And thats ultimately why i want us to participate. And i want to you want us to participate. Yes, participate means begin to think as a judge, and as a lawyer, of whats going on beyond our shores and the relevance if there is one of what youre arguing here to whats going on over there. And there are plenty of places where its relevant, plenty. Rose Carol Burnetts career spans seven decadees of comedy. Her variety show was mustsee tv in the 1960s and 70s. But for legal reasons, the first five seasons were never syndicated or sold on d. V. D. All that has changed. The Carol Burnett show the lost episodes is a new dvd box set containing classic episodes and sketches from her iconic variety series. Funny is funny. You know, i dare anyone to look at the dentist sketch today thats over 40 years old with harvey and tim ask not laugh. You know, what we had were belly laughs. And thats what we aimed for. And it holds up. Rose it does. But most of them, theres no political stuff in it, so its not dated. Very little. Right, exactly. I think in a way we kind of did that on purpose, is not that we ever thought wed go into syndication because variety shows didnt. But i just felt, you know, thats for the smothers brothers, which did it beautifully, and other shows. But im a clown. And i was a clown on the gary moore show. And i just liked the whole idea of a belly laugh. Rose how did you come to create the Carol Burnett show . Well, i i had signed a 10d contract with cbs as i was leaving the the gary moore show and there was a caveat in the first five years that some brilliant lawyer or my agent or somebody came up with that said if within the first five years of the 10year contract, if i if i wanted to push that button, they would have to put us on the air one hour30, pay or play variety shows. I never thought i would 31 hours explain to people what pay or play if they didnt take us upn that contract, they would have to pay us for 30 varieties whether it was on the air or not. Whether it was on the air or not. Of course, they took i chance and put us on. They did not they had forgotten because i didnt think i wanted to do it. I thought i cant host a variety show, thought they would, and the five years was almost up. There was one week to go, and my husband and i had put a down payment on a house in california. And i was not quite as in demand as i had been five years earlier. And so we looked at each other we had two children and we saido push that button. Rose Salman Rushdie is one of the most acclaimed writers of our time. Over the years, his works of fiction and fantasy have led to death threats, including those from both Ayatollah Khamenei of iran and al qaeda. He has now given us his version of the classic 10001 nights. The new book is called two years eight months and twentyeight nights. In between books, you know, i try all kinds of things, and most of them disappear and arent any good after 24 hours. But sometimes an idea sticks. And i had a couple of things he to start with. I had this idea of jeanies attacking manhattan, chethought wont be enjoyable. And i had this image of this man who is a gardener, suddenly becoming unstuck from the earth. You know, if youre somebody who spent your life nurturing the earth and the things that grow in it, and you suddenly wake up one day and you discover youre an inch off the ground, thats a shock. I thought maybe i thought maybe it could be like a little story of somebody waking up and suddenly theyre a cockroach, an unexplained metamorphosis. Initially i thought maybe it would be just his story and it grew out from there. Rose you also said you got sick and tired of telling the truth. That was the memoir. The memoir was the longest book i ever wrote. It was 600 pages. And i thought im going to go back to the tng that first made me want to be a writer, which was to write fantastic tales because i came out of o an indian tradition in which you grow up surrounded by fantastic tales. And i thought maybe i will bring that tradition over i have been living here for whatever it is, almost 16 years, bring it over here. Rose is one easier than the other . No. This is harder. If youre writing a memoir you know the plot and you know all the characters. Rose here, too, you can do interesting things because you have a fable but its also dealing with contemporary issues. Exactly. Youre trying to take a kind of sense of whats going on in the world and try and make it into, you know its alchemy. You take the base metal of the world and you try and turn it into gold. It was very enjoyable to do. Rose what issues are you addressing . Well, just, i think obviously at the center of the book theres whats called a war of the worlds in which these super natural beings are attacking the earth and we have to defend ourselves. And i think it is a time of extraordinary conflict. But i think beneath, that i think its a time of great uncertainty. Un, the thing that happens in the book is that all sorts of kirks, like the gardener who comes unstuck, find that very strange things are happening to them. And its called the time of the strangenesses, and what i felt is thats a way of saying we live in a time in which many people feel the world has become very strange. Its changing at very, very high speed in all kind of unexpectd and sometimes not at all attractive directions. And i think many people feel we dont know whats going on except the old rules, what we thought were kind of the rules of the world, dont seem to apply anymore, and we a dont really know what the new rules are. Rose David Oyelowo is an actor in transition. In the movie selma he was praiseforward his portrayal of dr. Martin luther king jr. Now he is playing the convict at the center of a deadly escape. The movie based on actual events is called captive. It was a fine line here because you want both things its cold killer but also the human being. No one of us is just the one thing. And when you look at the headlines, when you look at that day on march 11 of 2005, and you watch the footage of him on the news, he is a monster. He is a man on a tear, killing people on that morning. Ande remained, i think, in this fugue state, until encountering ashley smith, who somehow, through her humaintain, her pleeg not to be killed, reawakened the humanity in him. Rose even you begin to see it in small acts. Right. The cops around the case refused to believe that bryan and ashley didnt know each other, because they were just flabbergasted. Theres no way these two people can have this time together, these seven hours, and she not end up dead, and then he let himself let her go. But thats why we wanted to make the movie. What happened in those seven hours to make them turn this corner . Rose was this an easy choice for you . No. It was a very difficult choice for me because i know what it costs me to play a role. Its, you know, like daniel day lewis, i aspire to immerse you know, the kind of immersion that means you have to give yourself over to the character. You have to not judge the character. You have to place yourself in their mindset be the character. To understand why they do what they do. And as a person, i find what he did reprehensible, so its going to cost you to be in that head space every day. But i was so inspired by what went on to happen with ashley smith after this event, thats what made me feel like i wanted to lend myself to it. Rose all this happened within a sevenhour time . Yes, seven hours on that day. Rose the book the purpose driven life, some have called this a christian movie. Does that mean anything to you . Other than the fact that hes a prominent christian with a huge following, and wrote this book that sold 40 million copies. I mean, i understand it because were always looking for ways to categorize things, its an action movie, a romantic comedy, a faithbased movie. That is not what drew me to it and that is not what i hope ultimately it will be purely understood to be because i think faithbased movies largely seem to be made for a niche audience, prierl for christians, and they can be quite heavy handed in terms of the preachy, proslatory nature. Rose they make a lot of money. They make a lot of money but they make a lot of money from a niche audience. And for me, i want to reach as broad an audience as i can, especially a story like this which is life affirming and redemptive. It is not one person having it all together leading another to salvation. It is two broken people, and that i think is a major difference. Rose here is a look at the week ahead sunday is the annual primetime emmy awards. Monday is the day new yorks metropolitan opera opens the fall season. Tuesday is the day the muppets return to primetime in a new series on abc. Wednesday is the first day of the International Short story festival in cork, ireland. Thursday is the day pope francis addresses a joint session of congress. Fridays is the first day of the new york film festival. Saturday is the first day of the red bull air race in fort forth, texas. And heres whats new for your weekend don henley has a new solo album out, cash county. You can get burned you try to rekindle that old flame rose johnny Death Penalty and Benedict Cumberbatch star in black mass. Jimmy, when did you get out of alcatraz . Thats nearly 10 years ago. Well, its wonderful to have you back in the neighborhood, son. Rose and Jackson Brown has tour dates in boston, massachusetts, and bethel, new york. Running on empty running into the sun rose thats charlie rose the week for this week. On on behalf of all of us here, thank you for watching. Im charlie rose. Well see you next time. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you youre getting to be a big boy im just a kid whos four each day i grow some more i like exploring, im caillou so many things to do each day is something new ill share them with you, im caillou my world is turning changing each day with mommy and daddy im finding my way growing up is not so tough except when ive had enough but theres lots of fun stuff, im Caillou Caillou caillou im caillou giggles ha, ha, ha thats me