Transcripts For KQED Charlie Rose 20151005

The challenge is staying at the level, to remain at the level, to keep releasing records, not necessarily hits, but just connects with people. You know, ive never been worried about my records selling millions of copies, but i have been really intent on writing songs that come from me but that belong to people and people can relate to them and get into it and then they will come to the shows. The shows always the end goal. I see the album as a commercial to a show. Rose netanyahu and sheeran when we continue. Rose funding for charlie rose has been provided by american express. Rose additional funding provided by and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Rose we begin this evening with the Prime Minister of israel here in his hotel room in new york. We talked to him after he addressed the United Nations and talked ability his concern for israels national security. He talked about iran and Iran Nuclear Deal, he talked about the palestinians and syria, all subjects we want to talk to him about this evening. I am pleased to have this opportunity to talk to him before he returns to israel. Mr. Prime minister, thank you for joining us. Good to be with you, charlie. Rose let me turn to syria. Russians have created a stronger military force there. Their planes attacked moderate arabs. He says hes going in to prop up assad. Tell me what you know from your own intelligence sources about whats happening on the ground. Well, i went to see mr. Putin in moscow a few days ago, and he told me his goals pretty much as he enunciated them here, and i said, well, i have different goals. You know, ill not intervene in the internal conflict in syria, its a mess, but i will protect my countrys security, so we will not allow iran to build a second terror fund, not tolerate the use of syrian territory to attack or rocket our cities and will act to prevent the transfer of arms by iran and others from the territory of syria into hezbollahs territories and bases in lebanon, and this is our red lines and we act on them. I think it makes sense for russia as well not to get back into an adversarial position that we were in decades ago. I think its important to make sure we dont collide and that was the purpose. Rose the purpose was to make sure that you dont collide, that there is no conflict collision is exactly the word. No collision. Deconfliction is the jargon. What a horrible word. Rose how would it take place . Our deputy chiefs of staffs will meet in a couple of days along with our military people to try to delineate. I dont know if well succeed but well try because we dont want a conflict with russia and russia doesnt want a conflict with us. Rose does russia want a conflict with the United States . I doubt it. An overt clash . I dont believe it. Rose there is also this in this conflict russia announced theyre sharing information with iran, iraq and who else . Well, hezbollah because hezbollah is basically irans sidekick. Hezbollah is irans battle and i dont think we should prop him up and i have not intervened. I have one goal to protect the security of israel and prevent the attacks. I think ive made it very clear to president putin on what will happen in syria. Rose whats the worry. Excuse, syria. You can have one of two horrible outcomes. One it becomes completely dominated by iran who is going to get now hundreds of billions of dollars which it can arm them. Its given hezbollah alone, one terrorist organization, a billion dollars a year. Rose what are they doing . Theyre taking sa22s, antiaircraft sophisticated weapons, putting them in lebanon to shoot our planes, supersonic missiles, cruise missiles to shoot down our oil regulars, and iran is putting sophisticated precisionguided missiles, in additiono the 180,000 rose but are you but are you protected from all of that because you have the iron dome . Part of it. We welcome and appreciate americas support but its not enough. Rose have you shared the iron dome with anybody . Shared wit the United States. Rose and thats it because they helped you build it . But no other country . No other country . Ill check my files. Rose you know better. Ill check my files. Rose you know better. I do know er . Who shares the iron dome . Who has the technology other than you . Have you provided it to anyone else . Not yet. Rose will you . Maybe. It depends. Rose who . It depends. Rose what would it depend on . What does it depend on . Well, wing of the things you worry about, charlie, i worry about is that if you have a proprietary secret that protects you against the rockets coming down on our head, im not wanting to share that secret with rose how about sharing it with russia . No, that didnt come up. Russia is supplying iran with sophisticated antiaircraft batteries, the f300, which will likely give iran a sense of immunity. They can attack us from lebanese and syrian territory and we cannot attack them. Thats an equation we cant accept. Rose do you have any doubt that putin wants to destroy i. S. I. S. . He wants to join the United States and anyone else to destroy i. S. I. S. . Yeah, so. Rose do you have any doubt thats his motive . Im sure he does. Rose and he also has the motive of wanting to increase his own respect and relevance to the middle east. Do you w welcome that . Well, time will tell. I think the important question from our point of view is does he pursue his goals or does he let iran pursue its goals against us . These are two different things. Iran is preparing a noose of war around our boarders. Iran is placing now very soon 1500 troops next to our border. Tonight that could be 15,000 troops. Iran openly declares its commitment to destroy the state of israel. Were going to act in our defense. By so doing, well exercise our right of selfdefense, but i think its important and was important for me to try to make sure that we dont collide with russia, and i dont think russia wants to participate in those goals of iran or hezbollah. So its very important to try to separate that, to parse it out. I hope we did. Rose the United States would like to see assad no longer the leader of syria. They do not know who they would like to see replace him. They would like to see negotiations. They would also like to include iran and other neighbors in that process. Do you have a problem with that . Yes, i do, because i think iran has been the source of assads power, theyre propping up assad. Theyre making a power grab there, in yemen, theyre arming all our enemies everywhere. Theyre in iraq, in afghanistan. Theyre not your friend. Theyre your enemy. Yes, you made a nuclear deal with them. We disagreed about that and it was a disagreement president obama and i both said. Rose abram said today obama had a vendetta. Thats what Elliott Abrams a friend of israel said. Does he speak for the president . Rose i dont believe so. Does he reflect the belief of the israeli Prime Minister . President obama called me at the the height of the debate on the nuclear deal with iran and he said i would like to talk to you about bolstering israels security. We can do it while the debate is going on or after its concluded. I said, well, lets do it after its concluded. This is the day after. This morning, i met with secretary of state john kerry, and we started talking about bolstering israels security in the face of reality. That deal the first deal is simple we have to make sure iran abides by its obligations. But the second thing is we have to make sure that we block irans aggression. Rose and how do you want to do that . Strengthing israel, number one. Providing it with the means to defend itself but also to address the larger rose but tell me how you would do it. Whats your strategy to you to restrict the activities of iran, the socalled behavior which was not part of the nuclear deal . Number one, aggression the stronger israel, is the weaker the iranian aggression against israel, and israel can be strengthened, with defensive weapons and other systems to make sure that iran knows that it will not succeed and it will pay a price. Thats not only my view, its the view of just about every Arab Government in the region, and if you cant get them to say it on charlie rose, take them to a side room and you will hear them say. There is a massive rose what will the emirates and the jordanians and whoever else youre referring to say in the side room to the Prime Minister of israel . What will they say . Rose yes, what would they say. What are you saying their private position, is not their public position . Well, i think theyre also expressing themselves publicly about their concern with irans aggressive behavior. Rose they supported the nuclear deal. You really want to get into that . Rose yes, i do. Im the foreign minister. Im the senior diplomat of israel. Rose do they not support the deal publicly or not . I think its well known what they think. Rose so youre saying what they said is not what they think . Im saying theyre very concerned about iranian aggression. Charlie, this is not a court of law. In the real world where we are, Everybody Knows that iran is making a grab for conquest in the middle east. Not dominion, not all fine words like paradigm which i will not let my staff use, they want to conquer the middle east. Their Deputy Commander of their army said this is our order, conquest, destruction of israel. Everybody in the region understands this danger. Now, this danger will be increased because iran is going to get mega bucks, and i think rose mega bucks because of the deal and sanctions being eliminated . Sure. Rose and mega bucks means, what, 100 billion . To start with. Rose and how much of that will end with hezbollah and other groups . If 2 end up with them its huge money but i think a lot more over the years. The important point is we agree on this rose we being . Israel and the United States. We agree we have to take care, as president obama said, on countering irans aggression. We have to agree that we have to bolster israel, ensure its quality military edge. The president said all that and i appreciate that and i look forward to meeting with him in november. I think this is a source of agreement because both the supporters of the deal and the opponents of the deal agree that israel now has to be strengthened in the face of these new iranian challenges. Rose but doesnt the record show that the Obama Administration has done as much in terms of military support for the government of israel as any previous president . Your own ambassador has said that. Yeah, i dont discount that. Rose there is no question they have in terms of military support and that aspect of the relationship as much as you could expect them to do, is that right . Deeply appreciated. Rose but thats right . Youre confirming that . Of course. I think the problem is military strength is always relative. All strength is always relative. Its relative to the new challenge that we face from iran and it is growing, and it is serious, and it is something that threatens us and threatens the entire region and i think that we have to close ranks, cooperate very closely and build the defensive and deterrence against iran, and there is one country that stands in the breech breach, against militant iran and thats israel. Rose stands nu the breach in the breach because of your geographical location . Yes, and our values. We fight these fanatics and were willing to place ourselves in the breaches and by doing so and defending ourselves we defend the regions around us. Rose do you think russia came in because they saw a vacuum of leadership . I think russia has its own goals and ambitions and i think there is something bigger happening than personal policy. Rose what is it . I think its the shift of tectonic plates. I think between east and west is this malignancy of religious fanaticism, of primitive medievalism that is challenging and rushing through the cracks. These people that reject diversity, pluralism, debate, and they threaten our world. I think iran of the two forces is the more dangerous one because it is the preeminent Islamic State and, yes, its seeking Nuclear Weapons and everything else, submarines, rockets. Rose do you think they will get Nuclear Weapons at some point . I have said yesterday in my speech in the u. N. , i said that israel will not let iran sneak in or break in or walk in to the nuclear club. Rose what was that staring them down that you did, staring down the u. N. Staring down the u. N. It celebrates its 70t 70th anniversary, 70 years after the holocaust in which it pledged to workday in and day out against genocide and then the leader called for genocide of my people, the murder of the citizens of israel, my countrymen and practically nobody said a damn thing. Rose just to accent that thought, what did he say . He said israel will not exist in 25 years and that every day in those 25 years life will be hell. Rose what do you say to the people of snirlz. I dont think we just move on, cheal. Charlie. This is unimaginable. Did we learn anything from history . Does it mean you can conduct genocide and express your decision to make another genocide . You not only deny the murder of 6 million jews but you also promise the destruction of another 6 million jews, the 6 million jews of israel and the world sits back . Oof course rose i understand. Tell me what you want the world the do . To deny it and help us thwart it. Rose deny what . Deny the language or the possibility . Both. Rose but there is also this some say you came to the u. N. To say im putting the Iran Nuclear Deal this is the last im going to say about that, that i am moving on to what is a larger battle against the extension of iranian power and resources. Is that a fair statement, that you realize that you have to move beyond the deal . You fought hard, do you feel like you lost . Look, i think that i had to speak up. I didnt have a vote around that table, but i have a voice, and the jewish people seven years ago had no voice to even speak out about those who would terminate us. What i do now and i suppose thats the first responsibility of the Prime Minister of israel, i think that what we have to do now and this is what im focused open is the future. Number one, make sure they keep their obligations. Number, two defend against irans aggression in the region. Number three, tear down its global terror which includes terror cells in this hemisphere as well. Rose i heard you say that. Do you think im not talking about concrete things . Iran is building terror cells in this hemisphere. Rose give me your best example of that. Ive given it to the relevant governments. Rose your best example where iran. Well, tried to murder the saudi ambassador in washington. Thats a pretty good example. Rose that was thwarted. With respect to iran, do you believe that you have the unconditional support of the president of the United States with respect to your battle against iran in has the deal, the Iranian Nuclear deal changed anything . Look, i think we had, as we said, disagreement in the family. I dont think we have disagreement about israels right to rose well, thats not the question, though. Is there any question about the president s support for you and what you believe about iron . Are you on the same page with respect to the threat and the action required . Thats the question. You have the unqualified support of president obama and therefore the u. S. Government . I think we have the support of the president , the president of the opponents of the deal for strengthening israel against iranians aggression. I think itt discuss with president obama and the administration the details of what we see as the growing iranian threat supplanted by a lot of money and what we can do with it. Rose and you think the nuclear deal enhanced the iranian threat . I think the lifting of sanctions and the money that will now flow into iran with very fat contracts will fill up their coffers. I know they were strapped for cash. I know they were doing whatever they did when they didnt have cash, so i expect them with a lot more cash to menace us and others a lot more. I think this is it. We have to separate between these two things. The deal has been concluded but it has ramifications one, to make sure they keep it and, second, to make sure that they dont use the proceeds to conquer the middle east and destroy my country, which i think would be not only a moral collapse it wont happen, we wont let it but something that would also threaten the vital interests of the United States of america. Rose do you think anything will change their behavior . They say there is a strong reform element in iran. Look, i hope im wrong, but when you reward bad behavior, it doesnt become good behavior. Rose let me close with this. Two things. One, you dont seem to be concerned about russia at all. The whole world is talk about russia in syria and the military presence there and their effort there. You dont seem to be concerned. You seem to view russia as your friend. I was concerned must have to go to moscow. Rose you went to moscow to make sure there was no conflict. A pretty good reason. Rose but the secretary of defense of the United States ash carter had the same conversation with the defense minister in russia and a lot of people are having those conversations. Rightly so. Rose you dont seem to be concerned let them play a role, theyre a big country, they have a friend in assad, let them come in and be part of the solution . Look, i didnt invite them to come in. Rose do you regret that they came in . Would it make a difference . Rose well, why cant you say . Let us know what the Prime Minister thinks about the presence of russia in i dont like the fact that russia is supporting irans vassal, Bashar Alassad, whose brutal regime murdered rose do you share the turkish view . I have problems with the turkish view on anything because i dont know where they stand, but i view Bashar Alassad regime as a murderous one and i am not happy when russia and iran which includes bashar are in cahoots. My role in israel is to protect it from the possibility of deterioration and that is why i went to moscow and i hope it worked. That was my goal. Rose you had a resounding electoral victory in israel. Many people didnt expect it would be as big as it was. How many terms as Prime Minister do you want to serve . You already will be the longest is second longest serving. Whos counting . Rose how long do you want to be the Prime Minister and what do you want your legacy to be . I want to serve as long as i think i can help protect the country and build our future. Rose and do you believe youre israels best chance to do that . I think my role is to be the guardian of israel. Rose do you believe that iran is a bigger threat than i. S. I. S. . Yes, i do. Rose do you think the president thinks i. S. I. S. Is a bigger threat than iran . I dont know, but i think theyre both threats and, you know, when your enemies are fighting each other, dont strengthen either one. Weaken both. Rose and iran and i. S. I. S. Are enemies . Sure. They both want to have the world ruled by militant islamic. Rose its good to see you. Thank you for sharing your time with us. Good to see you, charlie. Rose thank you. Thank you. Rose we are very pleased to have ed sheeran here. The New York Times called him an unlikely pop star phenomenon. The video for his single, thinking out loud, has been viewed over 730 million times on youtube. He has shared the stage with musical royalty like sir elton john, beyonce and the Rolling Stones. His concert film debut chronicles three night sold out run at windham stadium. Here is his trailer for jumpers for goalposts. Now realitys hit and theres 40,000 people. One, two, three. singing this is my first show. When you play Acoustic Guitar and start off in the pop circle, your dreams dont really stretch that far. singing i think this is the most important milestone so far. This is real people buying real tickets to sit with 8,000 other people to come and watch me play. singing cheers and applause went to brooklyn to the show then for a pizza with beyonce and then do a dive bar. Weird. singing rose its a pleasure to have you here. Heres the album in vinyl. Its an extraordinary thing. I read the numbers. I mean, you are i dont know how to say it other than a phenomenon. How would you characterize what youre experiencing . You know, ive always had an ethos of just working harder than anyone else i admire and respect and trying to be nice. My dad always told me to choose someone you admire and work hard and be like them. When i worked at Atlantic Records i saw james bond sold 10,000 records. I said, i want his diary of that year, and we did everything we did plus twice as much. Rose worked twice as hard. And we ended up selling half as much but now on this record we sold more, so its working. Rose and other than hard work, what else is at the core of this . Are you writing lyrics people just connect to . I dont know. Ive only written songs from the heart. I dont really see the point of making music if its not an expression of self or form of therapy. If i have a bad day, i want to write a song. I dont want to write a song to have a hit, i want to write a song to have it make me feel better. So its never been about the audience or pleasing people or trying to fit in. Its just been about myself and my love for music. I guess thats come across. Rose music is your therapy, your catharsis . Definitely. Well, i think other people have different ways of letting off steam, you know. Friday night, you finish work, you go to the pub, have a pint and go home. Some people go to the gym, taekwondo. Mine is writing songs and getting things out, anger, aggression, happiness, love. Rose tell us how that happens. I dont know if youve ever done this, but i used to do it quite a lot, like when youre angry or something you write an email or a letter to that person you write everything down and dont give it to them. Its just about getting it out. It makes you feel better. You write it and read it and dont send it . Is it like a fire hose that pours out. I can go three weeks without writing one song and in a week write 20. Rose what turns it on . In my experience, time to write, because im quite busy. Ive made this album on tour and im making the next one on tour. Its about finding time. I have a mobile studio in every dressing room and hotel room and in between doing meet and greets and the digs ill try and write a song and on the bus, so its about finding the time to make it happen. Rose you opened for the Rolling Stones. They wanted to hang out with you. Ill never be your beast of burden ive done a lot of surreal things. The Rolling Stones being one of them. I had lunch with them the other day. Had breakfast with van morrison. He was really sweet even if ive with one told me he wouldnt be. Random things of people i love and admire keep popping up and they say they like the record. Rose elton john . Elton was probably the first person to cosign it. He cosigned it in 2010. I didnt break here till 2012. Rose but hes, in fact, a little bit of a mentor . H he owns the management company, yes. singing hes one of these people that has a phenomenal career but hes really messed up a lot of times and done a lot of bad things as well as a lot of good things. Hes achieved phenomenal things with his music but also in his personal life done the worst things. Hes been heavily addicted to drugs, broken up relationships and fallen out with people and he can look back on it as a better person and be able to speak to me and give me advice on that. Rose and even a father now. Hes done everything. So when he speaks to you and says, maybe dont do that, you take his advice, whereas, like, there is a lot of people i always meet people that sit down and talk to me and theyre, like, dont go off the rails. People i dont even know are, like, be smart, dont go off the a rails. I dont care about their advice. If i was going to go off the rails, i would, doesnt matter what you will say. But if elton sits down and says, calm down here, mate, you listen to it because hes been through it . And if there is something you can learn because some things cost him years. Well you need to make your mistakes but i definitely dont want the take the route he took. Rose about what taylor swift . Shes miss america. She owns pop music in america. She had heard rose she can stand up to apple and everybody else. Yeah, shes a very, very powerful figurehead in music. I had broken the rest of the world. I was touring australia and quite a big hit there while she was touring australia and she had my song heard my song on the radio and invited me to tour with her in the states. I had already toured the states about five times. I had just played radio. We were at that level where there were 5,000 or 6,000 people, and she was playing to 100,000 people. She gave me the american stamp of approval because she is miss america. She said i think this is good and kind of opened the doors in america which is nice. Rose wimbley, three concerts over three days. Wimbley stadium it was interesting. Rose not a pub. A stadium. It was difficult to comprehend because i dont play with a band. I use a pedal which is all live. Wimbley was even like, even in an arena, i thought i couldnt do an arena, but when i did an arena and it was fine, i said, might as well try wimbley. The the worst that could happen is you fail but you still sold wimbley. Rose how many people were there . 87,000. Rose 87,000. Yeah. Its a big old stadium. But the thing, is if you fail, youve not lost anything, and if you achieve and make it good, the possibilities are endless. Rose youve rejected the idea of a band . For now. For now. Rose because to have the music you want to because of the music you want to create or some other reason . Im in control of everything i do and if i want to go on a tangent halfway through a gig, i just do it. Or if i mess up, i can rectify it without having to have anyone else worry about it. I think ill definitely have a band at some point. The thing that people keep coming up and saying they like about me is i dont have a band, so i think why change it. Rose whats the biggest challenge for you now. Carrying on the momentum. I think thats the biggest challenge for anyl, so keep rels that are not necessarily hits but just connect with people, you know . Ive never been worried about my records selling millions of copies, but i have been really intent on writing songs that come from me but when they go out they belong to people and their people can relate to them and get into it, and then theyll come to the shows. The shows are the end goal. I see the album as a commercial to a show. Buy the album or download or stream the album or however you listen to the album and you think i want to see him life and you go to a show. Rose everybody wants you to be part of their thing. singing wed be all night wed be all night love there are different tiers in my career and i feel i stepped up to the next one. Its not the same tier as beyonce or coldplay, but i feel its not that far away whereas the beginning, im constantly looking out there, but it doesnt feel that far. Rose how do you feel about the growth of the music . Because you seem like the kind of person thats whats crucial to you to make sure that for all this commercial success that there is also the growth of the artist. Im really excited about that. Im, like the best thing about having successful albums off your own back is you start to get less and less people giving you an input of what you have to do. On my first record, there is a lot of people telling me what they thought i should do. I would listen to them and say this is my first record. I now do whatever i want to do, which is nice, because there is no one telling you what songs to put on your album and i want it to be all an expression of self and be as interesting as possible. Rose so thinking out loud, 720 million views. 720 million views on youtube. How does that happen . That was a conscious decision, actually, because there is, like, certain things you can do to make a music video go viral, which is quite a difficult thing to do nowadays, so you have to just do something that makes someone click on the video, watch it and say i have to share that with ten people. I never appear in my music videos. I always make a little cameo if i appear at all, and im not a very svelte person, but i wanted to make a music video where i shot the video. It was basically doing the opposite of what anyone thought i was as an artist and then seeing it and everyone was, like, thats weird. And they shared wit lots of other people and it blew up. The reason i chose it was i knew that song was the biggest on the album. To do the most standup rose you dont have a conscience about looking a certain way at all. I never sold or bought a record based on anyones looks. All the people i look up to and admire are not conventionally attractive people. Elton would say that he was not a conventionally attractive person, paul simon, james taylor, joni mitchell, paul mccartney, theyre not all conventionally attractive people but they make good music. I feel like nowadays there is a pressure for people to look a certain way so they can fit on a magazine, but no one looks like that. Normal people tonight look like models and thats why normal people buy into the music. Not like adelle sounds nice not because shes trying to be anybody else. Rose authenticity. She has incredible music and thats what people buy into. Ive never tried to look any other way. I do always find myself looking at people sometimes being, like, should i . And then none of them sell as many. Im, like, why . Rose no, you dont need to do that. Tell me about living and being a musician today where social media is paramount. I think what ive learned about music today is no one has to buy your record anymore. No one has to. Usually, they buy your record if youre a likable person. Taylor is incredibly likable. You have to be a likable person for people to like you. For people to be likable, you have to get to know them. Everything is very instant and its, like, your personality coming out through something, and youd find kids, instead of being, like, oh, well, im going to illegally download the album because i want to hear it, theyll think, i think theyre a nice person and ill support that and buy the album. I think thats an important thing. Ive never been proven, anybody who comes across as a dick doesnt sell records. Rose you think that aspect of your personality will come out and have people turn out . Yes. If i was in the 70s and there was a newspaper article it could or couldnt be true. But youtube footage, its there and happened. Its important to be a good person in music. At a certain level, everyone whos mid tier are very nice. Everyone whos very selfconscious about themselves, theyre the ones who get it. Rose as successful as you are, are artists getting a fair treatment in a world of spotify and apple music and all the downloading of music that way . I dont want to be a spokesman for anything. I love playing live, so what spotify does for me is allows me to play very large venues around the world. Rose increased your popularity. Places like norway, you cant buy a record in norway. Its just spotify so if you dont have spotify you dont play in norway. Im a big advocator of life. If you make a record and tour it, 96 of my income comes from life, and we still sell a lot of records. Rose like most artists today . Live separates whos able to do it. If you cant play a Musical Instrument or sing live, you shouldnt be a musician, get a different job. Rose if in fact your success is based on a whole lot of technology and people yeah, well, i think its different things. I think, like, live is where i really, really enjoyed, someone like taylor, like when youre going to see taylors show live its a spectacle and the songs come to life and there is lots of things going on but its still at the core, like, music, but shes someone who sells a phenomenal amount of tickets as well. I figure if you cant sell tickets because you dont have a good live show, you shouldnt. Rose what happens on a live show that you do. I kind of walk on stage and one of the first things i say is my job is to entertain you, your job is to be entertained. Eth basically grabbing them in and going were all in this together. Im willing to lose my voice and sweat if youre willing to do the same thing. Rose kind of a Bruce Springsteen approach, too. I have been influenced by many people. Ive watched a coldplay d. V. D. Numerous times and taken many tricks chris martin does with the crowd. Even if its just sing this part here. One thing i learned quite early on as my friend wanted to go and see u2, and he paid money to be up front and was there, and bono goes, now you sing and my friend was like this, no no you sing, i paid the to come and see you. So every time i play, i make sure i do the whole song and then the sing along happens. So ill make sure people get what they paid or and then, like, because having the crowd sing it back is the most amazing thing in the world, and i kind of wanted to have that for the whole concert, but i couldnt, so i try to give as much as i can. Rose do the tattoos tell a story . Yeah. Im a very strange person and im quite eccentric at times and these tattoos can be viewed by someone as quite an ek eccentric thing. Every single tattoo relates to something important to me in my life or my career. Like this one is called henry matisse. Its of a mother and child. It was the first thing i bought with a paycheck for my mom, i bought her a drawing of mother and child. These three boxing gloves are the first. I sold out Madison Square garden three times. My granddad was a boxer. This is for my granddad who is irish. This is my first gig in canada. I have a song. There is lots of stuff. It all relates to people say, what are you going to look like when youre 80, and i think ill look awesome. Rose your life story will be there. Yeah, you will have your grand kid on your lap pointing at things. Yeah, thats when your granddad went to do this and that. I like it. I havent got anything on my body thats pointless. You know how people get, like, ruins and tribal tattoos just because they look cool. That, when you grow up, isnt going to be great. People may think im going to look like a sad, ugly, colorful old man but i will be happy because i will have all my memories. Rose didnt you have a new one recently . A lion. Rose why a lion . That was for a show. Its the biggest you can play in england and no one ever does it. Its a big achievement to do and the english crest, you have eagles, american bald eagle, we have three lions. So the england show would be three lions. So i wanted to get a lion on my opinion chest, i wanted it to be as big as possible and be the centerpiece of all the stuff ive done in my life leads up to this point. A lot of people think its odd but i really like it. I think you dont have to see it every day. Its under my shirt. I like it. You dont have to see it. Rose the documentary . Yeah. Rose jumpers for gold posts. American doesnt get this because a sweater is called a jumper. In school when you play football in the park you take off your sweater and put it on the goalpost. Playing shepherds empire, that was the first goal. Then you move to academy and wimbley. Rose you said you never thought about playing wimbley because it seemed like outof teach and became in reach. My point is when you move the goalpost you see the next one. Rose are you a savvy business person, too . I dont likely care about business but i care about the music that i put out so i guess im savvy in terms of my music, but i dont dash. Rosedont rose your core belief is its good, it will sell. No, if it has heart, it will sell. Anything with heart sells. Anything that makes anyone feel something will sell. Thats why films like the notebook or sophies choice, like saving private ryan, anything that pulls on you. Anything can be good, but anything that connects with human beings on a personal and heart level will last. The album in the last ten years is good because its just pain pouring out. Rose and is the pain pouring out of you . Pain and happiness and rose emotion. A couple of happy songs are there, but to be honest, im a happy person because i get all the pain out in the songs. My pain might not be on the scale of anyone elses but it creates music. Rose im impressed you go to africa to look and feel new sounds. Yeah, i just know a lot of very talented musicians from that side of the world. The thing i like about it is there is no other reason to make music other than to make music. You go to l. A. And everyone is publishing, want to play in your band, but when you go anywhere else in the world where there is not really like a hollywood or grammy system, they just make music for the hell of it, they dont make money, they make music because they love it, i want to get back to that a little bit because i have been surround bid so many people who make money off me, i just want to sit in a room of people who just want to play music. Rose thank you. Are you going to play something for nee . Yes. singing i fall in love with you every single day i just want to tell you i am take me into your loving arms kiss me under the light of the stars place your head on my beating heart im thinking out loud we found love where we are when my hairs all gone and my memory fades and the crowds dont remember my name when my hands dont play the strings the same way, mmm. I know you will still love me the same cause honey your soul could never grow old its evergreen and, baby, your Smiles Forever in my mind and memory im thinking about how people fall in love in Mysterious Ways maybe its all part of a plan well, ill just keep on making the same mistakes hoping that you will understand that, baby, now, now take me into your loving arms kiss me under the light of a thousand stars place your head on my beating heart im thinking out loud maybe we found love right where we are oh, maybe we found love right where we are and we found love right where we are thank you very much. 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