Transcripts For KPIX 60 Minutes 20121210

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Ok, well just look at your dad, so he can get this shot. Im going to be a ninja chaos noise got it. What . Yeah, i got it, come here. Nobody move, especially you, charlie. Howd you do that . Automagically. Lets eat. Combine pictures with best face. On the new samsung note ii. For a limited time, get two flip covers for the price of one, exclusively at verizon. Pitts why would anyone confess to a crime they did not commit . It happens so often in chicago, Defense Attorneys call the city the false confession capital of the united states. Chicago has twice as many documented false confession cases as any city in the country. One reason may be the way police go about questioning suspects, and 60 minutes has learned the Chicago Police department is now the subject of a Justice Department investigation into its interrogation practices. Two cases we examined involve several teenage boys who were arrested and, they say, forced or tricked into confessing to Violent Crimes they never committed. Each spent nearly half their lives in prison. They are free now, and told us their story together for the first time. Terrill swift we all of us got one thing in common we did an extensive amount of time in jail for something we didnt do. And thats the bottom line. Pitts they each were sentenced to terms that ranged from 15 years to life. Terrill swift, michael saunders, vincent thames, and Harold Richardson were convicted in one rape and murder; james harden, Robert Taylor and Jonathan Barr, in a different one. All were found guilty based solely on confessions. Jonathan, you went in as a14 yearold boy. Jonathan barr yes, sir. Pitts whatd you come out as . Barr came out as a 34year old man. Michael saunders yeah, we was young, little kids. James harden i miss my mama, man. I miss my mom and daddy, man. I miss my mama. It seemed like some days, i cant function. Pitts she die while you were in prison . Harden yeah. Pitts their troubles began in 1991 when chicago was in the midst of a Violent Crime wave more than 900 homicides in 12 months. Police were under enormous pressure to solve those crimes. Terrill swift was 17, was still in high school, had never been in serious trouble, when another teenager from his neighborhood implicated him, vincent, michael and harold in the rape and murder of a 30yearold prostitute named nina glover. Did anyone ask you terrill swift, did you murder this woman . Swift that was the first thing they said. Whoa. Raped and beat who . Nina, i dont know nina glover. Can i get my mother in here so i can get a lawyer . And nothing. Pitts terrill voluntarily turned himself in to police and was placed in an Interrogation Room, surrounded by several detectives. The questioning, he said, lasted for over 12 hours. How close were they . Show me, physically, how close were they . Swift like, right here. Youre going to die in jail. Youre never going home. Pitts yelling at you . Swift yelling at me. Pitts were you scared . Did you cry . Swift absolutely, i was crying, but no one listened. Pitts terrill wanted to go home, and says police told him if he admitted to the rape and murder, he could leave. So he signed a 21page confession which gave specific details to how he and his Co Defendants committed the crime. I got to tell you, the first time i read it, all 21 pages, i said, that man is guilty. Swift right. Everything thats in that confession was fed to us, myself and my codefendants, by the police. Pitts did they force you to sign . Swift no. Pitts so whyd you sign it . Swift i thought i was going home. Pitts you were 17 years old, so you werent a child. Swift i guess i was still a mamas boy. Pitts come on now. You had to know if you admitted to raping and killing a woman, you werent going home to mama. Swift i had no understanding of that, none. Pitts terrill swift would later recant, but it was too late at trial, a judge believed the confession and sentenced him to 30 years. Robert taylor that whole ordeal, it done something to every last one of us. And with me, itd made me numb. Pitts in the other case, Robert Taylor, Jonathan Barr and james harden were arrested in high school for the rape and murder of their classmate 14 yearold catteresa mathews. They were taken into custody after a fellow student gave their names to police as possible suspects. Robert was 15 when he says he was taken into an Interrogation Room and forced to sign a confession. Taylor man, you being cuffed up and beat on by the police. Man, them people can get you to do what they want you to do. Pitts what did they make you do . Taylor made me sign it. I mean, that. That murdered me. It killed me inside. Pitts his codefendant, james harden, says he was told by police, if he signed the confession, hed be released immediately. James harden they had the statement already wrote up and the man say, do you want to go home and sleep in your bed tonight . So i said, hell, yeah. So thats how easy it is for a person to sign their life away, just the thought. Just being taken away from your parents and say, okay, i want to go home and sleep in my bed tonight. Hell, yeah, i fixing to sign it. Pitts but james never got home that night. He and the others were tried, convicted and sentenced to life in prison. Bob milan theres nothing worse as a prosecutor than playing a role in sending an innocent person or people to prison for many years. Theres nothing worse. Pitts bob milan should know. As a young prosecutor, he worked this case, and would eventually rise to secondincommand in the cook county states attorneys office. Now in private practice, he says publicly for the first time, he should have examined the confessions more closely. Milan i never believed anybody would confess to a horrible crime they didnt commit. I didnt believe it. I didnt believe people would confess to. To rape and murder of a woman. You know, just didnt believe it. But based on my experiences, i found it did happen. These young men lost a lot of good lives. I was part of it i didnt mean it, i never would have done that intentionally, but it doesnt make it any easier. Pitts yeah. Haunts you, still, it sounds like. Milan sure. Always will. Pitts why would a detective push for a false confession, you think . Milan what happens is its tunnel vision, okay. They get locked in on this individual. So the anonymous phone call, the confidential informant, the wellmeaning witness sends them in the wrong path. Pitts chicago has a long history of false confessions. A Chicago Police board found former commander jon burge guilty of physically abusing suspects, from the use of electric shock to putting a gun to a suspects head. So far, more than 85 convictions have been overturned in illinois since 1989, many as a result of police misconduct. Peter neufeld quite simply, what cooperstown is to baseball, chicago is to false confessions. It is the hall of fame. Pitts Peter Neufeld was one of the Defense Attorneys representing these men. He is the cofounder of the Innocence Project, an organization that has helped exonerate 300 wrongfully convicted men nationwide with the use of dna testing. Neufeld there are more juvenile false confessions in chicago than any place in the united states. Whats happening . Its not because the kids are different that makes them more vulnerable to confessing. Its because the way the police keep pounding and pounding and pounding away in those Interrogation Rooms. You get innocent kids to confess to crimes they didnt commit. Pitts cook county states attorney Anita Alvarez disagrees. Responding to public pressure, she set up a new unit within her office to reexamine questionable prosecutions. But she defends the actions of the police in these two cases. Anita alvarez we have not uncovered any evidence of any misconduct by the Police Officers or the states attorneys that took the statements in these cases. Pitts alvarez Still Believes the confession terrill swift gave in the nina glover case, despite the fact there was no d. N. A. Evidence linking him or the others to the crime. Did you find any of the boys d. N. A. On the victim . Alvarez no, we didnt. Pitts did you find any of their d. N. A. In the basement of the house . Alvarez no. Pitts how do you explain that the boys would say they raped a woman and there not be any d. N. A. Evidence . Doesnt that strike you as odd . Alvarez well, we would love to have d. N. A. On everything and every. And every piece of evidence that we have in every crime. But it doesnt necessarily occur. Pitts last year, the Innocence Project retested the one d. N. A. Sample that was recovered inside the victim, nina glover. It was submitted to the national d. N. A. Database, and a match was made to Johnny Douglas, a serial rapist and convicted killer who is now deceased. But the New Discovery did not change Anita Alvarezs mind. You find out years later that, in fact, the d. N. A. Found inside the victims body belonged to Johnny Douglas. And Johnny Douglas is a convicted serial rapist and murderer. That doesnt tell you that he most likely is the person who killed this woman . Alvarez no, it doesnt. Is he a bad guy . Absolutely, he is. Absolutely. But can we prove, just by someones bad background, that they committed this particular crime . It takes much more than that. Saunders for her to just say d. N. A. Is not everything well, what else do you have if d. N. A. Dont matter . Swift this was a rape and a murder. How can you say d. N. A. Is nothing . Pitts why would a confession trump d. N. A. Evidence . Saul kassin because confessions are incredibly compelling. Nobody can understand how they would ever be goaded into confessing to something they didnt do. Pitts saul kassin is a psychology professor at John Jay College of criminal justice, and has studied Police Interrogation practices and false confessions for 27 years. D. N. A. Is supposed to solve our problems. Its supposed to identify the perpetrator and absolve the innocent. Here you have cases where they absolve the innocent, but we dont believe them because the innocent have confessed. And so the d. N. A. Doesnt matter anymore. Pitts in the case of Robert Taylor, Jonathan Barr, and james harden, d. N. A. Found inside the 14yearold victim, catteresa mathews, was also retested, and a match was made to willie randolph, a 34yearold convicted rapist with 39 arrests. Peter neufeld says prosecutors rejected the dna evidence, and instead came up with an unusual theory to explain it all away. Neufeld they suggest perhaps after the kids killed her, this man wandered by and committed an act of necrophilia. Pitts necrophilia, a lot of our viewers wont know what that means. Neufeld having sex with a dead person. Alvarez its possible. We have seen cases like that. Pitts possible . Alvarez it is. Weve seen it in other cases. Pitts its possible that this convicted rapist wandered past an open field and had sex with a 14yearold girl who was dead . Alvarez well, theres all kinds of possibilities out there, and what im saying is that i dont know what happened. Milan people dont like to admit they made a mistake. But we need to do that. Our job as a prosecutor isnt to win; our job is to get it right. Pitts former prosecutor bob milan says that prosecutors need to put the same sense of urgency into exonerations as they once did into prosecutions. Milan when you have physical evidence, it doesnt lie. So when you have the dna on a girl from some guy with a history of sexual attacks, that pretty much tells you where youre going. Pitts not the people who gave the confessions . Milan no. Pitts by now, ten Defense Attorneys were focusing on the new dna. Working with them was a third year Northwestern Law School student named katie marie zouhary. She was assigned to reexamine the original confessions, and her research helped change the case. Katie marie zouhary i think when you look at a confession on a piece of paper, a court reported confession, a handwritten confession, it seems like all the pieces are in place. But what you dont see is the 17yearold in the room by himself with the Police Officers; what you dont see is that confession next to the other confessions so youre able to see that these things dont match up. Pitts zouhary discovered the boys confessions contained different accounts of the crimes, from the chronology to their own nicknames. Zouhary they get the framework right but they dont get the details right. And if any two of them had gotten the details right, that would be one thing, but when you look at each of these confession, line by line, in the way that we did, its pretty glaring that there is no cohesive story here. Pitts last year, based on the new d. N. A. Evidence and katie maries work, the courts vacated the convictions and granted all of them certificates of innocence, which restored their full rights as u. S. Citizens. As for Anita Alvarez, shes still not convinced terrill swift and his codefendants are innocent. Alvarez i dont know whether he committed the crime or not. There are still Unanswered Questions in both of these cases that i couldnt sit here today and tell you that they are all guilty or they are all innocent. Pitts what would you say to her if you could . Swift i was wrongfully incarcerated for 15 years and youre still fighting my innocence, not only mine but my codefendants. What else needs to be done . Pitts during our interview, terrills mother, who was in the room at the time, became emotional. I could hear you crying over there. Why are you still shedding tears . Mrs. Swift that was hard, actually have your child taken away from you and he was innocent. And i knew this from the beginning. But what could i do . Not to be able to get my child, my baby, my firstborn that was hard and it still is. We came through it with the grace of god. Cbs money watch update sponsored by good evening. The Federal Reserve is expected to pump more money into the u. S. Economy, announcing a fresh round of bond purchases this week. Fedex says it expects to ship a record 1 9 million packages tomorrow. Gas prices fell again to an average of 3. 35 a gallon. Im jeff glor. Cbs news. This family used capital one venture miles to come home for the holidays. 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Its one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. Now get 200 free trades when you open an account. Stahl not since the dinosaurs disappeared have animals been going extinct as fast as they are now. Entire species vanish every year. And while our hearts are moved by the plight of the biggest whales or elephants; the fiercest tigers, even sharks; and certainly the cutest, like pandas, what about the slowest . The turtle, and its landloving cousin the tortoise, have been plodding along, slow and steady, for more than 200 million years. But their hard shells are little protection from human predators and a booming illegal animal trade. It may be too late to save many of them, but they have found an unlikely protector in a man named eric goode. Some of new york citys hottest hotels, restaurants, and bars are owned by eric goode. Eric goode hello. I need to say hello to people i havent said hello to. Hi. Stahl thats made him rich and comfortable with the glitterati and fashionistas. But behind the scenes, he caters to a far less glamorous clientele endangered turtles and tortoises. How did the whole interest, if not obsession, with turtles and tortoises begin . Goode as a child at six, stahl at six . Goode i was given a small hermans tortoise, and that created a budding interest in the natural world, and in reptiles and snakes and lizards, and in my hardshelled friends that i just fell in love with. And so it was a progression. Stahl its an obsession that takes him as far from the glitz of the new york scene as imaginable. He wades through swamps, turns over rocks, wrangles exotic snakes and other reptiles, as he searches for his first love. Goode what a beautiful tortoise. This is our first psammobates tentorius trimeni. Stahl turtles and tortoises trace back before the dinosaurs. But now, today, about half of the over 300 species are headed toward extinction, largely because of habitat loss and an insatiable market for them, particularly in asia, as food, medicine, rare collectors items, and pets. How big a business is the turtletortoise trade . Goode china alone is probably in the hundreds of millions of dollars. This trade flourishes because the payoff is huge and the chance of getting prosecuted and incarcerated are very low. Stahl if youre going to be in something illicit, this is the safest or one of the safest. Goode and thats a tragedy. Stahl eric goode is spending a Million Dollars a year of his own money to fight the trade in places like madagascar, an island off the coast of africa, thats vastly undeveloped. Goode people are so poor, some of these villages make less than a dollar a day, or its basically subsistence living. And there just simply isnt the political will of the country to really enforce, you know, whats going on with their natural heritage, whether its tortoises or other wildlife. Stahl fly over madagascar and you can see why conservationists say its bleeding to death rivers run red with soil erosion from logging and slashandburn agriculture that have wiped out animal habitats and 90 of the countrys forests. And yet, because of its isolation, madagascar is a paradise of plants and animals found nowhere else, like the wideeyed lemurs, chameleons that sparkle with color, geckos that hide in plain sight, more than 200 kinds of frogs, and five species of rare turtles and tortoises. Eric was taking us on a trek to find the fastestdisappearing animal in madagascar, the plowshare tortoise, whose shrinking habitat is so deep in the wilderness, its only accessible by boat. Goode this tortoise is one of the worlds most endangered animals. It is the worlds most endangered tortoise. And it has an incredibly high price on its head. Asian countries love gold and this is a gold tortoise. And so literally, these are like gold bricks that one can pick up and sell. Stahl we were following the path the poachers take, landing on a deserted beach, and off we went on a long hike. We walked through scrub brush in blazing heat for almost an hour. Goode if the sun gets too high up, they just disappear. Stahl the once plentiful plowshare population here, he says, could be down to as few as 300 adults. Goode and this is where the guards are based. Stahl goode has helped hire around 40 locals to go out and find the tortoises before the poachers do. Angelo we have to be on a team of many people. Goode different lines, 30 feet apart. Angelo yeah. Goode all right, lets go. Stahl we lined up the way police do when they search for a missing person, and by midday, with a lot of help, we got lucky. Angelo they found one stahl oh, look at that. Goode wow stahl how did you ever find it . Goode wow. Oh, its a beautiful female, so this is a just a perfect, perfect female. This tortoise is a crown jewel. This is a beautiful animal. Stahl look at her. Goode and you see this, this incredible domed shell thats unique with this tortoise. Nothing has. No turtle has this shell, like an army helmet. This is a very, very valuable tortoise. Stahl based on his own research, goode says a tortoise like this could sell for 60,000 in asia. To try and stop the trafficking, he and his colleagues have begun doing the unthinkable. Its a drill. Oh, my god. Goode yeah. He has to be very careful not to hit the bone because then well draw blood. So hes going just that very carefully 16th of an inch into the shell. Stahl they want to leave an indelible gash, a scar, that makes the tortoises undesirable to collectors. I have to tell you watching angelo do this, its painful. It is painful to watch. Goode yeah. No, its very hard. But i think were at a point where were down to so few animals, theres so few of these tortoises left, that we have to really take extreme measures. Stahl scarring the shells of these animals, defacing them, etching is that working . Can you tell yet . Goode it is too soon to know if thats working. It breaks your heart to have to do that to this beautiful, beautiful shell. I mean, you can compare it maybe to chainsawing off a Rhinoceros Horn to save a rhino. I mean, how horrible is that . Stahl to show us what hes up against, eric took us to a market in a small city called mahajunga, where we saw, with our hidden camera, shells of endangered tortoises out in the open on display for sale. And soon, we were being offered live tortoises. So what is this . Goode this is a spider tortoise from southern madagascar. This is critically endangered. And the chinese sometimes just puncture the shell just to eat the liver out of this tortoise. Stahl one of the vendors showed up with something in a plastic bag. What is it . Goode wow. Stahl it was a radiated tortoise, on the endangered species list. Asking price . Just 400. We were even offered a plowshare tortoise, if we paid up front and waited several days. But that wouldve meant breaking madagascar and International Laws against smuggling an endangered animal. How hard was it for you to not take that tortoise and save its life . If you leave it behind, who knows where its going to end up. Goode its incredibly frustrating. This animal is from such a tiny geography. Youd think you could wall it in and protect it. Stahl there is one place in madagascar that is trying to wall them in and protect them behind locks and razor wire this National Park deep in a forest. Are these automatic rifles . Richard lewis they certainly are, yep. Stahl Richard Lewis is with the British Conservation group, durrell, which runs this refuge and Breeding Center. Lewis be careful of the youngsters here. Stahl theyre all over the place. Lewis yeah, just be careful. Stahl oh, heres some. Lewis watch where you step and then come on over. Stahl oh, my word. Lewis these are all adult males. Stahl look at them. Do you know how old they are . Lewis this could be 50 years old, 100 years old, 150, 200 years old. Goode i mean, this is the longestlived animal on the planet. Stahl their longevity is one of the reasons theyre so valuable. Asian collectors believe owning one confers long life on them. The black market trade is now so lucrative that crime syndicates are involved. The center was robbed in the late 1990s in what was called one of the heists of the century. So people actually broke into this compound, the Breeding Center with all the security, and stole. Lewis 75 youngsters and two adults. They stole. At that moment in time, it was half of our. Half of the youngsters wed ever bred. Stahl since then, with the help of eric goode, the population of plowshares here has rebounded. Lewis this is the female enclosure. Goode these girls are responsible for producing 300 offspring, 300 animals that you are looking at in this entire enclosure. Stahl very few people have ever seen them actually produce offspring, even here. But as we were just about to leave, one of the females wandered off, and to everyones surprise, began to dig a nest for laying eggs. Richard, have you ever seen this before . Lewis no. Stahl you have never seen it . Lewis me, personally, no. Its the luck of the draw, as it were. Stahl being a tortoise, the work was very slow and very plodding. Goode its remarkable. You think those legs are just these stubby elephantine feet, but theyre very good at cupping the soil and digging this incredible little hole. Stahl yeah, and she could be what, 60, 70 years old . Goode yeah, 100 years old. Stahl it took her almost an hour, and then gasps goode oh theres the egg. Stahl oh, my god. Goode oh, my god. Stahl is she going to do another one . Goode yup, yup there it goes, there it goes. Number two. This is what you work for. And even more so when the little tortoise, when the hatchling comes out, it is. You feel like youve broken a secret code. Stahl goode wants to emulate this kind of success back in the united states, with not just plowshares but dozens of other species. He has his own Breeding Center in the mountains outside of los angeles that he began with 150 turtles and tortoises given to him for safekeeping by the bronx zoo. Goode they were trucked across the united states, and they were the first guests in my tortoise hotel. Stahl each species is pampered like a guest at one of goodes hotels, with freshcut flowers, salad greens, and a tortoise smoothie blended with organic milk. Goode each species needs a different ecosystem. Like, this tortoise, for example, is from burma, and this is biologically extinct in the wild. And these guys need to be kept warm and very high humidity. Stahl he now has 680 animals from 30 endangered species. Goode this is a turtle from india and bangladesh, maybe a little bit into pakistan. Stahl . And these turtles that, elsewhere, would be on the menu. Goode its called the golden coin turtle, probably one of the top 25 most endangered turtles in the world. Stahl and young galapagos tortoises thatll grow to 400 pounds. Goode these were bred at a zoo in texas and theyve been raised here. Stahl dont come for my toes. But eric goode says he doesnt want any of his guests to stay too long. Goode ideally, wed like to send these animals back to the wild. Stahl why would you send them back . Theres no protection for them back in the wild. Goode it may be too soon to send a lot of them back. Stahl and can you . I mean, lets be realistic. Goode i dont know yet, but i think its important to show that were not just bringing animals into captivity and keeping them there forever. Stahl for now, hes fulfilling his dream by protecting 11 plowshares and trying to breed more. Last year, he hatched 250 other tortoises and turtles. Eric goode is like noah, building a safe haven for, in some cases, the last of these animals on earth. [ female announcer ] etrade was founded on the simple belief that bringing you Better Technology helps make you a better investor. With our revolutionary etrade 360 dashboard you see exactly where your money is and what its doing live. Our etrade pro platform offers powerful functionality thats still so usable youll actually use it. And our mobile apps are the ultimate in wherever whenever investing. No matter what kind of investor you are, youll find the technology to help you become a better one at etrade. Youll find the technology to help you become a better one until i had the shingles. 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And this month, hollywood gambles that this epic story has the power to revive the musical form on the screen. Director tom hooper has spent 61 million recreating a paris rebellion and filling scenes with actors including Russell Crowe, Anne Hathaway and hugh jackman. No actor combines the talents of a broadway songanddance man with the film presence of an action hero the way that jackman does. He won stardom playing a murderous mutant on film, and then won a tony playing a gay entertainer on stage. When we met him in his native australia, the 44yearold actor told us that everything he has done in a wideranging career has led him to this one moment. In les miserables, jackman plays one of the most heroic characters in literature, jean valjean, imprisoned for stealing bread for his sisters starving family, an angry brute of a man whose sentence extends to 19 years because of his hunger to escape. His nemesis is inspector javert, played by Russell Crowe. Look down, look down dont look him in the eye look down, look down youre here until you die. Hugh jackman any movie musical is like mount everest. I think its the most difficult form ever to pull off in film. When it works, its spectacular; when it doesnt, it stinks to high heaven. Pelley this film is either going to be a hit or its going to be a massive bust. Jackman yup. Pelley why did you take the risk on it . Jackman jean valjean is the holy grail for me. Its. I know that it demands everything from me, as a singer, as an actor to pull it off. Its the role of a lifetime. Pelley the story, written by victor hugo in 1862, follows valjeans redemption against the backdrop of a failed revolt against the monarchy. Jackman he is young, hes afraid. Pelley the film is unique in the way that the actors sang their roles. Usually in musicals, they record songs in a sound studio and then lip sync when the camera rolls. But in les miz, they sang in the moment. Jackman bring him home, bring him home, bring him home. We would wear a little ear piece where someone off the set there was playing music. And we would hear the live piano and we would just sing. Pelley what do you get from that . Jackman you get an emotional truth. For example, theres one song, and its, literally, written like this. What have i done, sweet jesus . What have i done . Become a thief in the night, become a dog on the run. Have i fallen so far and is the hour so late that nothing remains but the cry of my hate . Thats how its written. Now, i could, what have i done, sweet jesus . What have i done . Become a thief in the night. Become a dog on the run. Have i fallen so far and is the hour so late that nothing remains but the cry of my hate. I could mix it up, i could take a pause. If i was emotional, i could be emotional. I am reaching, but i fall and the night is closing in as i stare into the void to the whirlpool of my sin ill escape now from that world from the world of jean valjean. Jean valjean is nothing now another story must begin pelley the story of hugh jackman must begin in australia. His parents sailed from england into sydney harbor in the 1960s. Hugh was the youngest of five, born to an accountant and a housewife. They were all together, until one morning when he was eight, and his mom did something that would shape his life. Jackman i can remember the morning she left. Its weird the things you pick up. I remember her being in. A towel around her head and saying goodbye. Must have been the way she said goodbye as i went off to school. When i came back, there was no one there, in the house. And the next day was a telegram from england. Mum was there, and then that was it. Pelley she had left the family . Jackman yeah. I dont think she thought for a second it would be forever when she went. I think she thought it was, i just need to get away and ill come back. Dad used to pray every night that mum would come back. Pelley did you ever worry that the family would just come apart, that your dad would go, too . Jackman never, in a million years, could i imagine. My father is a rock. My father is my rock. Its where i learned everything about loyalty, dependability, about being there dayin, day out, no matter what. Pelley jackman would see his mother about once a year. Alone, Chris Jackman raised three boys and two girls. He scraped together private school tuition. And the boys went to knox grammar school, the conservative alma mater of australian c. E. O. S and prime ministers. Hugh wanted us to see the place that set him on his course. Jackman this is the headmaster. Or was the headmasters office. This is the no cursing area, just so you know. Pelley you didnt spend any time in the headmasters office, did you . Jackman ill tell you a story i was the captain of the school. I dont know if you have that kind of title, so. Pelley its like class president. Jackman right, so the headmaster brought me in. I want you to be class president. And i was like, wow, fantastic, great. And i went back to class, was mucking around in class. And the teacher said, go straight to the headmasters office. I was like, this is going to be really awkward, because. Pelley i just came from there. Jackman literally, an hour before, he just made me class president. So i knocked on the door and he says, hugh . And i said, yes, headmaster, ive just been thinking a little bit about next year. And we had a bit of a chat, it was perfect. Pelley you didnt tell him why youd been sent back. Jackman no, no, i. I thought he might rescind the offer. Pelley that bit of acting got him out of a jam, but it was in here that he first felt a stage beneath his feet and applause in the air. Jackman up here was probably the highlight of my childhood. Pelley up on the stage . Jackman yeah. Oh, my gosh. Pelley look at you. Is that you . Jackman that is me. Pelley do you remember this night . Jackman i absolutely remember every bit of it. Pelley look at this. I mean, youre. Youre into it. Youre loving this. Jackman i was so happy and felt so at home. And i just loved it. Pelley it was a love that drew him off the traditional path. With 3,500 he inherited from his grandmother, he went to acting school and was hired in his first audition after graduation. Jackman my very first job. It was a tv series called correlli, and it was lust between the bars. Pelley lust for leading lady deborra lee furness, to whom he proposed four months into the job. Jackman i just had an absolute certainty that she was the person i was going to be with for the rest of my life. Even when deb tried to break up with me, which she did, i said, dont worry, i get it. Im your worst nightmare, a young actor in his first job. But dont worry, were going to be together. This is it. Pelley and it was. Jackman were going on a date night tonight. Pelley married 16 years, theyve adopted a boy and a girl who are now 12 and seven. One of the things that he says is happy wife, happy life. Deborra lee furness see how smart he is . Good looking and smart. Hes very good at making me a happy wife. Pelley and the key to happiness . Jackman turns down the jobs that would separate them. Furness we never have more than two weeks apart. Pelley is that a family rule, two weeks is the max . A lot of families these days are separated by much more than that. Furness we choose not to. We dont like it. And then you make the choice, why are you doing the job . If youre away from your family, whats the point . Jackman yes, my man. Pelley but he was away this year for that role of a lifetime in les miz. His family lives in new york, but he was shooting in britain. The memory of that absence was fresh when we asked him about his fathers experience. What advice does he give you today . Jackman its always about the family. Ah. Ah. Its all. Sorry, mate. Its always, hows deb . Its not about work. And i think thats him living with, probably, some of his regrets and feelings of maybe he. You know, at the wrong time, put too much into his career. And he doesnt want me to make that mistake. And so, in his gentle way, he always reminds me this is the most important thing. Pelley beautiful house, but not your house. Jackman no. Furness were always living in someone elses house. Pelley jackman wasnt making the same mistake again when we met him in sydney. He was spending six months here shooting an action film, so he moved the family, too. He was returning, for the fifth time, to the character wolverine from the xmen comic books. Jackman told us that the only time he didnt listen to his wife was when she urged him to refuse the role. These films made him wealthy, and he emerged an international star. Its a physical part for which jackman sculpts both beard and body, and he invited us to his twoaday workouts. Jackman that didnt feel easy this morning. Pelley impressive. Impressive. Jackman i always say, when i lift something heavy, i remember that is wolverine. The little bit to where youre going to want to drop it and then you go, no way, that little bit is wolverine. Pelley you change bodies the way other actors change costumes. Jackman well, this is your tool as much as your voice, as much as your emotions, and so ive always taken that very seriously. And i love playing wolverine. Its a great character, but i want it to be better than the last time. I want to be physically in better shape. Otherwise, theres no point doing it. Pelley but, look, youre a successful guy. You dont have anything to prove to anyone. You have this little voice in your head telling you to do more, do better . Jackman if i didnt have that, i wouldnt be sitting here opposite you. At the same time, for the sake of people around me, itd be nice to be able to, whew, you know, put it down for a while. Pelley it might also be nice for the sake of people around him if he didnt take the risks that he seems to relish. Jackman whoa, whoa. When my baby. Pelley he won one of the first of his two tonys on broadway playing peter allen, the gay australian songwriter. Did you think for a minute, man, this could be career limiting . I dont know if i want to take this chance . Jackman never thought it for a second. What sexuality you are is not the most interesting thing about you; its the kind of person you are. And that role just had. First of all, it was naughty. cheers and applause how are we doing downstairs . cheers and applause theres a few nervous people in the front row, all of a sudden. I would never give myself permission to do the things i did as peter allen. And his sexuality, for me, is another costume. Its a personality trait, its not who you really are. However, when i was doing peter allen, theres a scene where i kiss my boyfriend, whos dying of aids. And i go in for the kiss, and i heard this dont do it, wolverine. laughter pelley from the audience . Jackman from the audience. Obviously, some. Some kids going, yeah, lets go and see wolverine in that show, mum. Lets go and see it. Hes like, what . As i come out with my maracas and pineapple shirt, you know . Who am i . Im jean valjean. Pelley and jean valjean may be another surprise for an audience that can never be sure what it will see when the camera rolls or the curtain rises on the characters of hugh jackman. 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