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What am i doing . 22 years ago, they answered the call. Every available ambulance, everything youve got to the World Trade Center now. We knew that it could be up to 20, 25,000 people in each building. I am on the 83rd floor. Its very, very hot. Every firefighter saw the flames and they looked into their own hearts. Stay together. Thats when i said to pete, pete, this will be the worst day of our lives, and that was before i knew the half of it. Mayday, mayday major collapse in the darkness, i wondered if i was dead or alive. Pete peter hayden tonight the World Trade Center collapsed. The Fire Department of the city of new york and the greatest active gallantry ever bestowed on an american city. I dont want this to be something thats in a history book that a page is turned and were forgotten. Im lesley stahl. Im bill whitaker. Im anderson cooper. Im sharyn alfonsi. Im jon wertheim. Im cecelia vega. Im norah odonnell. Im scott pelley. That story tonight on 60 minutes. 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Lets lead the wayay. Uncomfortable. I want the mental part of it to be uncomfortable, so that when the game comes, its easy. You got to mentally wake up and make a decision on who you want to be that day. How can i get better. How can i take this opportunity to step into a new level. Im all about things that work. And with oofos, i saw a product that was working, that was helping. You know, i actually feel better. I feel stronger. I feel faster. In the neighborhoods of new york, there are 217 firehouses. Each holds a memorial to firefighters who answered the call 22 years ago and never returned. As we first told you in 2021, 343 members of the Fire Department of the city of new york perished on 9 11 in the greatest act of gallantry ever bestowed on an american city. This is their story. This plane raced past us along the hudson river at such a low altitude, i could read american on the fuselage. At 8 46 that morning, battalion chief joe pfeifer was blocks away searching for a routine gas leak. I saw the plane aim and crash into the north tower of the World Trade Center. Holy from that moment, the firefighters of the fdny would have about an hour and a half to save 17,000 lives. They knew that they might not come home, but they knew there were people trapped. Thats our job. There is no way we were going to stand back and say we are not going in. That wouldnt be the fdny. Our aim was to get above that fire and get those poor people out that were calling us. We are on the floor and cant breathe and its very, very, very hot. And all the dispatcher could say is, were coming for you. So we like to keep our promises, you know. We told them were coming. Were coming. Joe pfeifer was coming with a camera. Filmmakers jules and Gideon Naudet were making a video. A number of floors on fire. It looked like the plane was aiming towards the building. Engine 6. Engine 6. The World Trade Center tower number one is on fire. Engine 1, World Trade Center, send every available ambulance, everything youve got to the World Trade Center now. Dispatch launched an armada. Engine 211. Ladder 11, engine 44, engine 22, engine 53. 121 engines, 62 ladder companies, 100 ambulances, 750 members of the fdny. Attention, 35 engine, 64 engine, 94 engine, 83 engine. At fdny headquarters in brooklyn, 54yearold chief of Department Pete Ganci jr. Raced to his car. He was the boss leading the second largest Fire Department in the world after tokyo. Dan nigro was his number two. We went downstairs, got in the car and headed over the Brooklyn Bridge where we could see the damage, see the smoke, see the fire. Thats when i said to pete, pete, this will be the worst day of our lives. And that was before i knew the half of it. Car 3 to manhattan. Pete gancis voice was recorded en route. Along for the pot, staging area three, chief somewhere on west street, o. A box is a location. K signals the end of a message. A throwback to the 19th century telegraph, which on this day was paungtuating the greatest crisis in the departments 136 years. Right away i got a deep sense that we were going to lose a lot of firefighters this day. Division 1 commander peter hayden met battalion chief joe pfeifer in the lobby of the burning tourer. I knew we weren going to be able to put out the fire. So the order of the day was to search and evacuate as many people as we could. I knew we were not going to back away. The fire was 93 floors above. Elevators were out. So firefighters climbed tight stairwells shouldering 75 pounds and more. I thought we would have enough time to get the people out and everybody that was above the impact of the plane we were pretty much sure were either dead already or going to die. There was a lot of people jumping out already. 1355 people were trapped above the fire. The boeing 767 had severed all three stairwells, leaving one way out. Jumpers jumpers division i, be advised, battalion advised they have jumpers from the World Trade Center. We heard a loud thud, and i knew that was somebody that either fell or jumped from the building. The first firefighter killed was hit by a fellow human being. It was happening so rapidly, that i grabbed the p. A. System at the fire command post and i said, firefighters are coming, if you can hold on. Its something thats going to haunt us probably the rest of our lives. Sal cassano had arrived precisely 17 minutes after the north tower was hit. Just as i got out of my car i heard another explosion and i could tell you exactly what time it was. 9 03. That was the plane that hit the south tower. You have a second plane into the under tower of the trade center, major fire. Mayday, mayday another plane hit the second tower, k . The second 767 exploded into floors 77 through 85. Now 2,000 people were trapped a quarter mile high. Cassano ran into the department chaplain, mychal judge. I told him, father, we are going to be in for a bad day. We need a lot more chaplains here. More and more firefighters kept coming in. They took their assignments with no question. Yeah. Pretty tough though. But its also hard to give them those assignments . It was. Yeah. It was. But, you know, i could tell when i gave the assignments out, i could see the look in their eyes. I remember seeing firefighters hugging each other and heading up. How many firefighters did you see that day refuse to go up the stairs . Nobody refuse to go in. Stay together. I can remember one lieutenant from engine 33 coming up to me and not saying a word. And we stood there wondering if we were both going to be okay. And that lieutenant was my brother, kevin. And then i told him what i told many of the other fire officers. I said, go up to the 70th floor. 70, they hoped, could be a staging area in the north tower in less than half an hour, the fdny had rescue operations in the north tower, the south tower, and the nearly soldout 800room hotel between them. From the time the first plane hit the north tower until the second the tower collapsed was 102 minutes. The things that were going through petes mind in just 102 minutes is mind boggling. Sal cassano was with chief of Department Pete Ganci at his command post on the street below the towers. This is the only known picture of ganci that day. Was ganci the kind of boss that you did things for because you feared him, or because you desperately did not want to let him down . You did it because you loved him. Ganci joined the fdny in 1968. What kind of man was pete ganci . Yeah. Pete, i guess pete would say is my alter ego. Had a chest full of medals. He was just a down to earth, honest, hardworking guy, you know. He is a paratrooper in the army. Worked his way up to be chief of department in the fdny. Quite a story. A story of courage over his 33year career. He won the departments medal of valor crawling into a burning apartment on his hands and knees, grabbing a child who was certainly going to die, and dragging that child out and saving her life. Thats the kind of person pete was. He would put people in before himself, without a doubt. He put his firefighters before himself three months before 9 11. Ganci, the chief of department, responded from home to a call of firefighters trapped in a burning store. He went in wearing shorts and boat shoes. He once said his 11,000 firefighters were his children. On that day in queens, he lost three. On 9 11, the man responsible for firefighter safety was chief al turi, who was tormented by the passing minutes. He asked peter hayden if he had considered the threat of a partial localized collapse on the burning floors. I said, yes, but we needed to get the people out. There were hundreds of hundreds of people coming down the interior stairs. How much time did you think you had . I thought we had a couple of hours. The chiefs knew no steel highrise in history had ever completely collapsed due to fire. None of us expected the building to come down. We expected the fire to keep burning and conditions to get worse, but if we could just get one route above in each building, perhaps we could bring some folks down at least. You just needed a little more time . We just needed time. All right. No one would do more with time than orio palmer. Thats him on the right with the mustache. He is receiving orders to go to the south tower to try to clear a path to the trapped souls calling 911. How many people where you are at right now . Like five people here with me. All of them on the 83rd floor . 32yearold melissa doi was saying the hail mary prayer when 911 answered. She was manager in a Financial Firm on 83, one of the burning floors in the south tower. Are you going to be able to get somebody up here . There is no one here and the floor is completely engulfed. We cant breathe. And its very, very, very hot. The operator was right. Someone was rising towards melissa doi. Orio palmer ran marathons as a hobby. Battalion 7 is chief palmer. Ladder 15 is a team of firefighters a few floors below. This is ladder 15s lieutenant joe leavey. We are on 71. We are coming up behind you. All right. Palmer found fire Marshal Ron Bucca on the 75th floor evacuating civilians. Ladder 15 . Palmer had discovered the only intact stairway to the top of the south tower. Unlike the north tower, the second plane had missed stairway a. If palmer could clear this stairwell, 619 souls would have a way out. He was five floors below melissa doi and rising. Im going to die, arent i . No, no, no. Maam, maam, say your prayers. You are not im going to die. You got to help each other get off the floor. Stay calm, stay calm. Youre doing a good job, maam. 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He is calling the firefighters of ladder 15, who are coming up with rescue gear from a few floors below. 1045 code 1s were fatalities. More than he could count. He pressed towards 79, climbing at about one floor a minute. As he rose, melissa doi speaking to 911 from the 83rd floor thought she heard someone. We hear voices. Help help oh, my god. You stay on the phone with me. Is there anyone on the floor . We dont know what she heard, but hearing no answer to her shout, melissa doi returned the call. Orio palmer knew how dangerous this was, as he didnt stop. Ladder 15 knew how dangerous it was. What we never thought that an entire highrise building would collapse. There was no history of it anywhere in the world. But this day history was changing because the planes had blasted away the sprayon fireproof foam insulating the structural steel. The burning floors were sagging, slowly pulling the exterior inward. E. M. S. Division chief John Peruggia was the City Emergency Operation Center where he received a warning from an official he believes was an engineer. He said, the building is severely compromised. You can see slight lean. They are in danger of collapse. So i grabbed one of my staff guys, emt rich zarrillo, and i said go to pete ganci. Dont talk to anyone else. Deliver this message. The buildings are in danger of collapse. In this foursecond video, at far left you see rich zarrillos blue shirt. He is delivering the warning to pete ganci. Zarrillo hardly got the words out when gancis attention was drawn to a roar from the south tower above him. Loud noise. Had no idea what it was. All we saw was a plume of dust and smoke, and debris. In the moment before, melissa doi had given the 911 operator her mothers phone number and the message that her daughter loved her. Then there was silence. Oh, my god. Palmers last radio transmission was battalion 7 to ladder 15, and there is nothing after that. Thats when the tower collapses. He must have known that with every step he ascended, his chance of survival dropped. Didnt deter him one bit. The only thing that was in his mind was let me get up, let me get as many people out as i can, as quickly as i can. Joe pfeifer, next door in the north tower, was 200 feet from the cascading twin. And then the lobby goes pitch black. Everybody all right . Im okay. And in the darkness, i wondered if i was dead or alive. We got to get everybody out. Lets go i got on my radio. I said, command to all units in tower one. Evacuate the building. Joe pfeifer was given the order to evacuate, and one of the firefighters were calling my name. Pete peter hayden he says we have somebody down. I felt somebody at my feet, and i saw this was our Firefighter Department chaplain, father mychal judge. I removed his white collar and i checked for his pulse and breathing, and he had none. And i knew he was gone. Several of us picked him up and we carried him out. The emts that taken him, took him not to the morgue, but they took him to st. Peter claver, a Catholic Church a little bit north of the trade center and laid him on the altar and called the franciscan priests to come down and get him. Tower two a major explosion and what appears to be a complete collapse. Have them mobilize the army. We need the army in manhattan. There was a rush of dust with High Pressure coming in, you know, with force that i have never experienced before. Gancis streetside command post had been set up next to an underground garage in case shelter was needed. Captain john sudnik, ganci, and the chiefs dove into the entrance. I just remember the dust that day, feeling like it was searing your lungs, like it was, like it felt like you were swallowing glass. Pitch black. Pitch black. We heard voices. Are you okay . Are you okay . Thats when be made our way back up. Then we got up to where the command post was. Petes mind went into rescue mode. Pete ganci heard on the radio the cries of trapped and wounded firefighters. And then i remember him giving orders. I need truck companies. I need rescue company. Tell them to come with me. As he before, ganci went into the debris to save his men himself. In the Still Standing north tower, many firefighters refused the order to evacuate while they were still carrying the wounded and disabled. Ganci sent sal cassano to set up a new command post. 28 minutes later, cassano was on his way back. And then i look up and all i could see was the antenna from the north tower imploding. Get out of the tower major collapse major collapse. I, in my mind, had to be resolved with death. Regina wilson was on the street below the tower. She was with engine 219 in her second year as a firefighter. And i prayed, and then i just asked god to just protect me and, if he couldnt, i knew that i would die doing what i love. Inside the collapsing north tower, the menen of engine 39 we caught in a stairwell. And it started out slow, boom, boom, boom. Then it got quicker. Pretty soon, bam, bam, bam, bam coming down. Jeff coniglio and Jamie Efthimiades were on the stairs near the ground floor with 110 floors above them. It took ten seconds for it to come down. But it felt like ten minutes. I saw i was in the background of a funeral. I saw my casket. I saw my parents, my wife sitting in the front, and as im watching this, all right, its going to be quick. I am just waiting for something to tap my shoulder and figure ill feel a tap and that will be it, we will be gone. We are not going to suffer. James mcglynn and bob bacon were in the same stairwell. The wind came up the stairwell, you know, blew me into the air, and the landing that i was on disintegrated underneath me. I kind of bounced back and forth, hanging from like a pipe. I think i said a couple of prayers, god, please get out of here. Their fraeg fragment of an intact stairwell lay upon a mountain of misery. 16 acres of wreckage. 91 crushed fdny vehicles and quiet like the first heavy snow of winter. Every once in a while you would hear the radio, the dispatcher on the radio trying to contact somebody. Any division chief or staff chief at the World Trade Center. Silence spoke of unimaginable loss. I need division chief or any staff chief at the World Trade Center. That day, 23 battalion chiefs responded. Only four of us survived. Joe pfeifer thought of the lieutenant of engine 33. His brother, kevin, who pfeifer sent up the north tower. I got on my radio and i said, battalion 1 to engine 33. And i repeated it several times. And i didnt get an answer. Kevin pfeifer was gone. And so was the crew of ladder 105, which rolled from regina wilsons firehouse. We found the truck. We didnt find the members. What happened to them . They all died. Among them was john chipura, her mentor and her savior. Regina wilson was assigned to the doomed ladder 105, but early that morning before the attack john chipura asked to switch jobs, which put her among the survivors of engine 219. I tried to honor him by talking his name, and thats how it is in the African American culture. When you speak the name of an ancestor or you speak the name of a loved one, then they live, and so every time i say johns name, he lives, and that gives me comfort. It was very hot. The men of engine 39 were trapped in the wreckage near the north tower lobby. They could hear only a few feet away battalion chief richard prunty, who was pinned and calling for help. We couldnt get to him, and he was passing out. He was coming in and out. Did you hear his radio transmissions . The last thing he said was about his wife tell my wife and children that i love them. My wife, she is the most important thing to in the world to me. Among richard pruntys last words. The men of engine 39 were rescued, but 343 members of the fdny were gone. In a tradition where the job is handed down in families, many lost fathers, sons, and brothers. Guys i had worked with, both retired and active, saying to me, petey, you know, have you seen my son . And, you know, firefighter coming up, chief, have you seen my father . I just said, no. You know, i didnt have the courage to tell them what i knew to be true. Among the fallen were pete ganci and 71yearold deputy fire commissioner William Feehan who had gone with ganci to rescue the trapped. Pete hayden climbed atop an engine to address the living. I yelled out, we just lost a lot of guys here today. Lets have a moment of silence. Well, i took my helmet off and i held it. I held it. And after a while i put my helmet back on. They put their helmets back on. I said, okay, we got a job to do. Lets do it. Do you look back and wonder how did i survive . And 343 members did not . 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Captain peter ganci iii was 27 on 9 11. Battalion chief chris ganci was 25. How did you learn your father died . I ran home and i got in the door right when Steve Moseillo was my dads driver. Al turi, the chief of safety. I just remember them telling my mom that he is gone. She said, gone where . Like that. Innocently. No, like, he is dead. And i remember the scream that she let out. I can still hear it in my ears and it pains me to hear it. The pain of the realization that is he never walking back in the door. Pete, what kind of man was he . He loved being around family. His family was also the Fire Department. We knew it. My mom knew it. Sometimes to his dismay, but she, you know, we understood the type of person that he was and why he chose, you know, our chosen career. Chris, you were in business and on your way to an mba. Did 9 11 make you a fireman . Absolutely. Had 9 11 not happened, i would not have been a new york city firefighter. You quoted your dad as telling new graduates from the fire academy, you will never, ever be rich, but you will always be happy. Always be happy. Thats hard to explain to people how you can get injured or killed, but yet somehow you come home with a smile on your face. I enjoy being a part of the organization. It gives me a sense of pride i never felt anywhere else. And maybe thats what drove my father so many years. Im josephine smith. I work in engine 39. Josephine smiths late father, 47yearold kevin smith, was with hazmat 1 on 9 11. I always wanted to be like my father. You know, i always wanted to be brave like him and strong and willing. It really just runs through our blood. Generation to generation, i just think its just who we are. Its our passion. Its our upbringing. Somebody else might have thought with such grievous loss, i dont want to have anything to do with that. Its not the job that took my father. It was an act of terrorism that took my father. And that made me want to fight even more to protect the city of new york and the citizens. You may have taken my father from me, but the passion in the blood is still there. Im john palombo. I work in 92 engine in the south bronx. Tommy palombo, 69 engine in harlem. How old are you on 9 11 . A week away from being 8 years old. I was 9. How many kids in the palombo family . Ten. Eight boys and two girls. The palombo brothers dad, frank palombo, was 46 when he died. Ladder 105. In a sense, it wasnt 9 11 that made the palombo boys firefighters. It was september the 12th and all the days that followed. My dads brothers and sisters in the firehouse, they cooked for us. They drove us places. They took us to six flags. I remember going on their shoulders and, you know, they would take us by the arms and spin us in circles. The firehouse turned out for birthdays and games. The stands were filled at the hockey games, you know . It wasnt the same because you are missing the one person that you want there, but they do everything they can to fill it. They never will, but they did everything they could to fill it. As hard it was for them, taking time away from their own families. The firehouse cooked dinner for the ten palombos and their mother every monday for five years, until the family moved away. I am a firefighter, engine 214, ladder 111 in bedstuy brooklyn. Michael florio. His dad, john florio, was 33 years old on 9 11. Engine 214. The same house where his son works today. Every day i walk in, my fathers picture is on the wall. There are a lot of memorials of him and the other four guys that passed on 9 11. I have a lot of memories from the firehouse, being a young boy, and just walking in there every day and seeing his pictures, it brings back those memories. It makes me feel closer to him being there every day. Attention more than 60 children of 9 11s fallen have been through the Training Academy on Randalls Island in the east river and are now on the job. To join, they took a written exam thats given only once every four years. About 60,000 applicants take it, and only those in the top 10 earn a place in the rank and file. I am very proud. I feel that their fathers would have been very proud of them. Dan nigro, chief gancis number two on 9 11, was promoted to chief of department and became the city fire commissioner. Among the others in our story, john sudnik, a captain on 9 11, rose to chief of department, and so did peter hayden. Sal cassano became fire commissioner. Battalion chief joe pfeifer became chief of counterterrorism and now teaches crisis leadership. Regina wilson was studying for the lieutenants exam. And orio palmers name lives on the fdnys award for the most physically fit firefighters. A lot of bravery. A lot of bravery was displayed that day. And followed by a lot of sadness. Commissioner, it seems to be a sad day for you 20 years later. I think for everybody that was there that day, it is just stayed with them. The sadness. We have plenty of good days. Plenty to be thankful for, those of us who survived, but its a day that will never leave you. Sadness becomes part of your life . Absolutely. Your father survived the collapse of the first tower. And instead of moving to safety, he went to answer the mayday calls from his trapped firefighters. Receiving reports of firefighters trapped. He knew that the other building was in imminent danger of collapsing. He had decided in that moment that he was not going home. And he chose his guys. And, you know, we could get angry about it. I know my sister and mother, sometimes we hit our head against the wall. But when the smoke clears and you think about it, it was the only decision. 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