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And again coming up in the next couple of weeks we've got Dr Renaud correct she's going to be in town and we'll talk about that next week it's going to be April 22nd at the. Stop in downtown Oakland we've also got coming up this Saturday the east side Arts Alliance What will we do without them in prison think community conversation on the black cultural zone the update and Jad is coming up this Saturday's April 8th from 5 to 10 pm at a 2 to 77 International Boulevard in Oakland that's a Saturday I was going to be a down there and then there's going to be jazz with. Dave in Marion County as are you don't want to miss sad Also coming up we'll hear from the 1st segment of Africa today is going to be the African Film Festival coming up here in Berkeley some great films still on the docket there there's also going to be what I'm not sure negro the rope act film is showing will be a talking with get the Fairlane I eat more now more which will be shown on day 28 that will give you a little bit more information on that and much respect to the Life and Work of darkness how I made his transition I shed a. Big if. You would think you know I'm going to. Get the family name is an award winning independent filmmaker a teacher in film curator shipboard in Port au Prince Haiti and she was raised in New York she was an m.f.a. From the University of Paris School of Cinema and she has worked on factual and narrative film for European American television she produced in coal curated to critically examine I hate young. Screen in 2014 will break 800 bicentennial She also helped to launch Haiti's Film Festival shock man in 2004 and she joins us today to talk about her film which is coming up at the film festival here in Berkeley the African Film Festival. More get a thanks for joining Africa today thank you and you fan thank you thank you fantastic it's a great festival coming up in fact I think there's another Him filmmaker there I will pack and of course and some band Joy great company they're getting. Once again. The film. That's being shown back my compatriots the sunshine and getting a lot of traction Baldwin and I'm excited that it's part of the festival this year yeah fantastic and in some notes I've read you talked about your from my team on a more as a love point to your native land where did that come from well the trying to say get to. Well. When when when when the earthquake happened. 7 years ago. We were the invited by apply there are images of disaster and. I wanted to show a different I want to show a different Haiti the Haiti that I know that I guarantee of story and the images that come out as have like no context we don't know you know what's behind them they're always you know in the same way like. Says a destitute people and Haiti is so much more than that and the Haiti that I know that I experience is a Haiti of the of the people of grace and dignity who find ways to negotiate and mitigate disaster with with with humor with confusion and mystery and that's basically what I want to bring out in the film and when I say that it's a loved one that the way the film really came. To me 4 years to make the film and so it's it is a homage to 2 should make people to my compatriots of a great so there is that when you give us a sketch of the of the story line we want to drive people to see as we want to say too much and you also I think there is being used the word has been used as Neal realist What does that mean in the context of the story and what you're doing with this getting. I call it a magic Mary-Alice tale because it makes as folklore of magic trailers and that you can find in our literature. In our folk tales but also in I think it's cablegrams to Marquez who coined the term magic realism and the neo realism really borrowed 20 talian and and Japanese and Indian cinema that you. Real people in real situation so I makes it a little bit affixed to the name of the theater there are scenes in the film for example there's a commemorative March for the. Victims of the earthquake it's a real commom of the combative March that then I take where. Within that same. There are many moments like that and so and that's where the the makes the makes of jungle comes and the film is very. It's a coming of age story of a teenager. Who takes boy who's trying to come to terms with the with the death of his father who passed away in the earthquake and I think a chance of just growing up in between ages between cultures and and dealing with you know growing up but at the same time and one day goes as far as includes back with electrical power and. Power means response ability. And the 2nd story is a love story between the fisherman and his wife with come down with the with an illness that only seek to cure and the 3rd story is a story of a complex relationship between an author and his name was partly a character of a small and decide to leave the also to go and live her own life. From myself wrapped up in the in the character given Yes I think we're I work very well there is a film is only a what part of Haiti was a film done in the. That someone shot inject Mel chips on the South East Coast of the country and it the place where. It's the region where my mom is from but it's also a place and I'd like to go back to. 2003 to my my son might have been an argument there and he stayed there for 2 years so we have a community of friends people. Who love us and whom trust in the truth and it's what the 7000000000 wanted to do it I always say that I'm making my film with my child and so my child got my meeting and of the people in action and he and and people like that who backed me and helped me out no matter what Doesn't some of them don't camp example and so my community you know people just you know backing the film and want to for it to come to fruition you did a film is in the let me see if I'm can't hear you let me know it's political but it's not set simply to be to a political story I mean you have references to the earthquake you have references to oh what's happened in terms of how the quake affected to see you have stories ia you mentioned the names of Henry Cleese don't say how did you navigate not being just a political film but at the same time being a cultural political narrative. I only say that I don't make films as a whole as a political pamphlet I don't like that I mean maybe I should come 1st and so although I think it's good that he doesn't make political films that make it sound political so it and I believe. That you know growing up hadn't gone after and now. And the dictatorship. Just isn't really in my d.n.a. So whenever I set out to make a film it's going to have some political. Inclination in terms of where I am the faith that I'm in and and what I'm looking at what I'm dealing with so the film does deal with the actual political situation of the country because I mean after the quake there is squandering of the funds not by the Haitian government but by the. International organizations themselves and those so we make you know a little bit of. An allusion to that and then also protests in the street toeing the Haitian government whether or not paying you know the teachers. Their cues and so the students are protesting and she can be the real protest going on while or making the film and I ain't too great that into the into the narrative so I basically make a film where I am and what's going on around me I can't ignore it at the same time but I don't set out like that I don't set out to make a political film I set out to make a work of art that is partially political and how did you work with was speaking with get a family and her film which is in Title I. Is coming to the African Film Festival here in the city of Berkeley is going to be shown on April 28th because as you did the film there were other stories that were popping up meaning the story of cholera in the United Nations the story of the electoral process a hurricane Matthew. Story it must have been some challenges in there you know getting. As I was making the film the cholera epidemic was had been had. Subsided. So I didn't integrated as part of the narrative because there was no one around me who had been. Affected with the disease that had been I would have integrated into the narrative and would have found a way to integrate into the narrative because I was making this film as I was going along although I had like a script that was written and locked but I allowed myself that kind of. Flexibility to bring in what was going on while I was there was kind of like a vessel as I was making the film. But you know the u.n. Presence is still there I mean the N.G.O.s are still here and so that kind of like found its way through the narrative as well. And Matthew to happened after I had already shot the film the film was already in the festival circuit match it happened dry here I think most of them I thought it in the summer of 2014 and I went back in January 2000 chain and shot 2 more edited the film and and it was in the festival circuit as of last year in April so I'd been toying with the film for about a year. So yeah. Matthew came after the film was done but had he said it happened it would have been you know part it would have been it would have found itself as part of the narrative as well as the story of the of the c.n. The scenes there under underwater in. The graveyard scene in those type of things. I always think of her diversionary Christo you always think of the pride of Haitian people how does that cultural narrative that you were building and this kind of tenacity along with. I have to say this resilience of Haiti how were you trying to get that out how did that story how is that story a real story for a Haitian like yourself. I think I think when we set out to make films and set out to make films from a place of generosity and a place of where we want to share. Something that where what it was feeling something that I'm way experiencing with the rest of the world and for me making this film and this juncture was a way of saying. Haiti is here Haiti exists in Haiti wants to be in conversation with the rest of the world and so but on her own terms. In making this kind of narrative that allows us to go can pass to present to as a homage should this place for the same time with storing silver fictional. Is a way for me to to to take Katie out of the sides elation and I think that's a sentiment she used toit think the Japanese use that after Hiroshima as well now back to the Konitz they were they managed to create great art and pretend I'm a you know to take Japan out of this isolation Italy did it with them telling a neo realism cinema as well and for me I placed Haiti in that whole context as well and to say how can I use the enema to take Haiti either besides the way should so so we can be in call for work and not the world always looking at the victims and and so it was it behooves doing as a Haitian filmmaker to sort of create that that that kind of narrative that that was palpable that people can also be able to have a a relationship with it I mean I was looking at the Facebook page for and following a couple of things one was the theme of raising money to do a film which seems like it's a real task and the other one was the fact that it's been. In Naples in card game in Toronto in Johannesburg in routine a fossil in Miami it seems to be doing very well and the response is a pia really well. Talk about that the response to it especially by Haitians and the point of raising money to do a project that seems every again. I I I I I showed the film to a predominantly Haitian crowd after haven't shown it to. Their use crowd that had shown any of the carousel some festivals and I showed it again and again then it was shit showed in the conference as go last chair and then June of last year I showed a predominantly Haitian crowd and. I watched a film with the musician. One. Of them. By putting an end and the pulse of the crowd was just so amazing that I felt like Wow Ok I think I've done my job and the response was was amazing because you're always very very weary of Mirrodin people when you make a film you know like that and they got to be very critical they're not giving and so on and so forth that but I would say that I was completely embraced by this crowd and one woman said to me one thing I can say watch a film which if only it's true and I thought that was one of the biggest compliment and so it's it's had an effect on people all over the touching folks in ways that I never thought that it would touch people I mean in Naples for example a woman told me that for a long time her or her character the character of Ernest Hemingway's in the fisherman and the same was a wonderful character for her in terms of like you know in terms of. That. And she said you know now it's a character the session and character in my own kind of like the place that character for her and I thought that was beautiful so when people have that kind of relationship with the work that you've done it's no longer yours but the long of them and so they interpret it the way that they that they want and how it and how it resonates with them and you hear that then you know that you've done your work and I think it has resonated with people on a multiple way and. A gentleman told me he stood up that some guy made a spiritual realm and and I felt like. I tried to be a spiritual person as much like cat and when you hear that then you're you're like Ok well that part of me is also there and yeah it was a good film I I think after taking a joy to see this segment there where the men are talking sitting around and it is just so reminiscent of you know those conversations among men wherever you see me and gathering around their work anywhere in the world like I was just really beautiful I took it it took me a while to figure out the thing about the clothes pins on the ears I guess. Because when you lose you have to sort of like and you become what they called become a dog so the dominoes playing dominoes and then when you know when you're losing it's there if you have to do something once but you have to put a close can on your good I'm glad I lose it dominoes I'm definitely don't want any clothes pins around to look like to look like that but you know you've been involved in creating the film festival in just now I've actually been to Jack now before so it's a beautiful it's a beautiful city a good friend of mine Gloria Rolando actually did her film about Haiti I think she did some shots and I believe also and and Jacques Now how is a film festival growing that you worked on that you've been part of building get the. The festival the festival organizers came to me when I was doing my my my project painting on screen in New York in 2004 and that way to come and work with them because I had already built this whole selection of films so we basically transplanted my my best of all most of my films to theirs and then we added more films of good local productions and unfortunately the festival no longer exists because if it was a huge project it was a huge endeavor but it did give birth to a phone call and. We're trying to revive it we're trying to revive a kind of encounter cinematic a sort of a cinematic. Cinema and counter in Jacmel with trying to do that for the month of October so there's a lot of work you know to be done it's difficult to have things. Be sustainable here simply because we're all aware at the mercy of like you know the weather and and and political instability and you know and so we have to sort of we just keep going people keep going I mean the jazz festival just keeps going and you know no matter what the climate is I think that the question of like thinking it through and thing this is this is what we need to be doing in order to to to to make culture an important part really of patient society because it exists already as a question of using it so people can condemn communicate with each other so we can invite other other artists to Haiti and have to be kind of exchanges and that's what the festival was it was a platform for that and that but it's a but it's not it's not simple but it is trying to revive that judge and I was working with. Was just done how was it to me obviously work with. All his life but now you're moving him around in his got lines he's got responsibility how was that experience Getty. I think it I think for me it was a resume thing because I used a little bit of who he was to give like the character oh say and. And I tried to cast other people and I couldn't find anyone who had that kind of like that and who also was between different cultures as well so that it was kind of like obvious at the end that it would be him and so it was it was it was a joy it was a joy even Terry Some call it was seamless and I think he did it because it was a family project as well but it was like he did it with a lot of respect for lot of want a lot of love and and so when people ask him how did you know that be corrected by your mother he said you know she's been directing me all my life. To him that was it was if it was easy it came out to be simple and he was that a brother was an actor who helped him also to get into the character but he was a teenager and he had gone through that you know the fight the morning grieving but that he you know he channeled you know some of the like to see me Gino attitude and behavior and I had to bring like that character yeah I love the I love his character I'll show love the the the couple there the right area the muse in. Walking off into the sea and the boat into the into sea is one of the things just magical about an island where you have the sea just kind of lapping up on the edges of everything so. I get a and which wonderful that you're going to be able to show it again here in the Bay Area as part of the African Film Festival is going to be shown here on April 28th as part of a film festival. Which includes some other great artist great producers and directors and writers like yourself and what's next on the table you're I'm sure you're working on another project as we speak. I am actually but I'm also trying to finish the festival circuit but the elements of that into the world and let go of it I've been a company accompanying it now for the last year and I'm ready to let go and have it like having my own life. And them by to achieve usual company and fun and. For some sort of whatcha call we need in the summer. We're looking we're talking to some folks in the United States that is well for the u.s. It's very special I have and I'm obviously. And I'm developing the next project and yeah and I kind of like letting go little by little of the film and moving towards the next one well today which is the feature length merit it takes place to New York and Haiti will get Thanks so much for getting this to us and sharing with as other dreams and visions about your country I a team. I'm We've been talking with get the Fed means who is the filmmaker curator and this is their feature length film I Am war which will be showing in the Bay Area coming up Getty As always you always welcome me keep up the great work. Thank you so much for having me Walter pleasure a great day pleasure. We're talking with you I get a feeling there she was talking about her film more now more which is going to be shown at the Pacific film archive here in the city of Berkeley and it's going to be shown on the 28th and you can get more information by going to Deb you Deb you Deb you be a p.f.a. Dot Berkeley dot edu the film is entitled more now more a y i t i m or I'm French Haiti my love thank you to get the feeling for being here talking about films day to me going to be coming up talking with more. Leroy f. More as a black writer have poet hip hop music lover community activist famous with a physical disability he has been sharing his perspective on identity raising disability for the last 13 plus years began in London England where he worked with a something called on the outskirts racing disability he is the creator of Crips hop nation hip hop artist with disabilities and other disabled musicians from around the world and has produced a crip pop mix take the series founding member and current chair of the black disability studies working group with the National Black disability coalition he's host a radio program k p f a k puv Berkeley Liberation Radio he's been very active around the issue of incarceration wrongful incarceration of people with disability he was a producer on the documentary where is hope on police brutality against people with disability he has been awarded by the San Francisco Bay View and many other organizations institution he has published the black cripple delivers poetry and lyrics and is currently working on a children's book is produced mixtape poetry C.D.'s all around the world along resume of work in the field of disability of grace of activism of feminism of music he was receiving a delegation to South Africa journey to the south where he worked and traveled with other disable workers and cultural workers bring awareness to disability and to culture Leroy joins us today to talk about his recent visit to South Africa leeward Thanks for making the time I think it's very good you reason from New York yeah yeah. In the orig you know my mother was known Buffalo in the ugly call is played on urn Ok you know. You know even. In. Also you know Connecticut Ok And so you were part of I'm not asking your age but you are the hip hop generation where you know yeah like I used to you go to the ciphers in the Bronx I used to walk with my walker and go going inside further but in the late seventy's early eighty's you know you were you were you were you rap and hip I mean I'm now I have to take time to give you know. I walk yeah you walk up and there's a saying where were you. Think I'm going to. Get your disability Roy is Yaz through Bill Cosby Ok And you were born with. So did your exposure to hip hop thing culture and community. A source of strength for you why why did because this has been the rest of your life is music art poetry etc Why did you gravitate towards that well because I've always question what's out there is 0 on when I was younger I used to hang out with my Around 5 very counts is the belief that and I thought I had a huge complex and huge as a way before getting. His records and see you know watch jacks in there but I was winters in both had polio anywhere on crutches I think. These are you know I this is a ancestors Yeah it's all blues artists they were blind so that really got me. Really stuck to me and now with grip I like. You know research. But I did say was you know hours on the ground or on your own from South Africa through here and then the good. So Robert when there's a well I mean a magic man yeah you know like everything Yeah Ok so when did you decide so before you came to the barrier you went to London you know you know I came to the Bay Area in 91 I'm Ok oh no Anyway I came to finance my schooling then going to and then after I graduated undergrad. That was back in like Newt Gingrich time. Because I got lucky. Because I always knew that I'm the u.k. But I disabled movement so I was like Leno let me go there and see what did doing and they had their own or you since are. Dealing with racism you know just. Their own way. And the black. Community So when they saw that. I came home and I quit my job. Working in nonprofit that I worked at nonpartisans I was 10 years old he married my fire nonprofit so out there is the end of what I saw. I quit like job and started my own I'm probably for people of color with disabilities how long or how has that grown and where was it at that dialogue about race and disability many disability a topic and well addressed and not well addressed in the history of this country certainly but the topic of race and disability which you focused on. What was happening at the time that you were beginning those dialogue nothing. Back in late eighty's I think I do nothing out there you know I I've always gone I'm always there when face to face with my teachers you know and because they never talk about it well anything around it's about oil you know and of course Legrand black studies where one is not here to talk about 2 seconds. So it's own science cries about slavery and you know. They married you they came out with you know so I did and I really question is like you know it is. Either history out here stall. Or I did research my I thought and my mother always taught me that to challenge authority Ok but if you give facts straight so I would cite is school I used to air research about you know know why I can disappear and that they're going I found. They were brought. That's what I have found that Harriet Tubman had just. Yeah that's where I. You know Joe came here to Ok it was a generic dragon eighty's and he had he had beers. Home studio one of the 1st home studio they know. You know it's funny talking Tommy and bone and he was blind so it's all these stories Terry. Sorry to come to my focus because I did the research so when I did the research I went back into the school was like No no there's not right it's all I get them pushing it you know fun school to I. You know I saw a part to say you know people get shot by. The way before but I rather. Did I if I was an actor as so I thought that that's all I would like to say hope you all gain and touch your case and I ain't going nowhere as a bike to say old man going to prison so that really you know define this able force how do you use a term when you when you're working with cripple our nation how do you what does disability mean what does disabled mean for me it's more as a cultural thing I want to culturally and see thing you know people think it's only a medical thing you know and that's I mean it I'm. You know but for me it extends to my culture you know as an example my history you know of course you know people just as a political just mental disability I'm very I'm just well you know Danny Glover has a very you know yeah yeah I would be called orgasm and just well but for me it's more as not I did he. In the morning as I had spirit you know as Sam had told me in a narrow sea delegate just saying that it was a part of her clearance so for me it's more as my whole experience as a person Ok When did you know you know when to push the limit start hearing on radio good faith. Are you one of the founders of pushing women no no I wasn't I was you know and when it 1st started but I wouldn't the founders of it. I think that starting early 2000 I'm not sure Ok but you were doing radio a k p f a you were doing and you were doing well why was was radio a good medium for getting the story out Leroy where you are very good legs going out I always wanted to be in radio you know I grew up going to many came your art and you know the. Joke is that I wanted to be in radio but at that time I. Got Yeah because of my disability ass you know it seems to swell so people of light come on to your hearing. It was a joke but I used. Carson's feet to what is rock. N canary care. C.c.c. And I used to just let out the word on it's like I'm going I'm going to I'm going to be. So you know and you know and also I was Jeremiah's I had 1st gone already. And Army. New York and yeah. Yeah yeah but I. There was I 1st I recall you know is in high school so you know I've always wrote to you you know it's. It was just a part. Of getting out my politics you know. But I dissuade history again and I agonised over it so. Roy is Today Reports magazine writer rare porn magazine show here still has a show here where hard not career so if you have a loop or magazine then at the core magazine are very important magazine. And non pop for just say oh well Carter we had I'm a public access t.v. Star oh here in Berkeley I lasted for 3 years it was like the number one on public access hard to type it out where recent It's well you me and me Ok great at the time so we did dad for a couple you carry and it came back to k.p. Have a way to put some limits I did after a couple years then broke. And now I'm pretty well in Washington in San Francisco. That oh Ok p. O. Ne I'm called me I like me all of us do this all the gutter so I you know I did a couple years k.p. Oh yeah I mean the list of things that you've done is it's a page long but we can't read all of it because we have private down the time. When did you start because I know this is just is the 10th anniversary of clip art and pop nation when you tell a television what is crip nation so quit parlays England take a new chain is it the Internet as no network. Does well is it's mainly hip hop we do more than that pov you know it's poetry and music and the. Reason why. I sorry is today here I keep you know. I did push the one that we did that's the part sais I have part of it is. Oh yeah and he would just say we're going to have 5 hours but the reason I started crip out because. You know I'd see myself. In music and then hip hop you know make them think very bling bling of it so. Being in agony with I really want to place their education it was part of crap pop so me a couple people Keith Jones. You know is tempo he's a d.j. For she had a game he's been around since I know going here in Brooklyn and we all got together all said yeah the start is started is as a network now you know there's a saying. You know I got I'm 58 now it's something that we have to make a living on with regard to get it is so fit going to play so we didn't we didn't want to put all our eggs in one basket so we said let's. As an international network so people can come. You know do advocacy do as you can take go out the air and come back there and so so yeah so now it's been 10 years we put out what 56 C.D.'s Ok you know where international or out. World Yeah right Ayers and spam. Is a consciousness. Grown exponentially over the last decade decade and a half about the issues of disability and about equal access not just in terms of facilities but. Inclusion as that is as it been made leaps and bounds Leroy. Just I as a yes and no. I think you know like like any I there. It is a well again as it go it there is a sort of racism you know homosex. You know there is a of course you know you willingly he'd sit down to about the law and stuff but you know those laws are not implemented you know it's. Although you had this way act. They say who also had the 19th Let's say I'm employment right you know today you know it's so easy you know yes we have those laws but we still need to push you know a society is justly. You know it's a lack of education I want to ask you back about a lot of the black community on the issue of African-Americans black people people of color who are just able it's a consciousness been slower in terms of coming around to being inclusive vent being clear being supportive of and not stigmatizing. So our thoughts are mad that there's only one national all used and pro by disabled people and that's that it's like it's like I'm her out. On it's on her you know Martin Luther King said you know I can follow your if you're not going my way you know so it's the same thing aren't black disabled people you know have moments ago when when telling where just as a social justice are sure this is the culture as you. Are just you know as. As it is you just just this try you know so we need those you know easy cases and. National by destroyed closing to. Get off the ground my. Studies in this cause. You know although you think black studies it can take this away so use those to never connect so you know a lot. But I. Listen to you you know we talk about you know by disability history I guess a harried time I mean there are people that really. You know. The platform that we stand on today you know I over the years I would say you know we always use the past in the station your time but it was also I want to Africa and walk I want to laugh or cry goes going back oh this is going back and these 567 years so you would. If you wanted to she would. Not Yeah it's all over the Facebook it was blown up and we would you go you want basically to South Africa yeah I'm going to this I've got I want to tell you the story because in the eighty's I had. My father was part of that around you know new. Parts I had you know mantle and back in the eighty's I. Like I want to go and stop and look you know and see how to say Well brothers and sisters are doing their I'm very proud of Paris so I tend I try to go on a paper when I score class and this is you know back before computers in Europe. You do your research. Yeah. Apartheid so I couldn't find any information and I'm disabled people in South Africa so my people really was like a one paragraph. So at that time I was like I don't want a minute I think I think I'm going to South Africa you know so so. Here 2016. I encrypt I went to South Africa it was a hall campaign again I lasted 23 years time and they gave me great clear hot. We known. I forget and say were Irish rag various I'm sorry I. Got you you know you're everywhere we can make came through for you from. My experience very and by that yeah just you know you have a place just coming is like Ok at the savior of a good cause like you know 1000 to go so. You went December you know I did the thing I think I said this brother from Zimbabwe I was his name on the. Yeah yeah yeah yeah I was reading your web page about it's a newspaper called disability in fact you're on the cover Yeah you know the number of it and he was saying something about newspaper he was saying that the newspaper is not necessarily for just able people it's more for the families and communities of people who are not disabled I thought that was revealing Yeah yeah yeah because it's a it's a mind awareness you know who would do so is a gator you know it's a very talkative required but very gun that you know it's really for people that don't care you know it's time and. You know me. Years ago when we had been. Doing at South Africa. And international dissuades. I hugged him. And he says is the big Is International just the way I would feel as well you are very I think there were are so sense I get us through this here and you know made. It it's just been going through so we seen in contact and sounds like a bus to or took or. You know. Go agreed and you know. Words but yeah we now know it's. Only part one because the whole of this. Going back to sheer young Omega you know you know you don't come back so you think she is out there. She was going to leave it. I mean once you have. Fantastic in Cape Town because we want to expand. The whole African continent you know. Are you saying I. See you are good during the scene why a bear are you. Is not a means to you know you know to give money to loans like. No. 5 because. You go to when you were in South you know when Johannesburg. Dirt. Poor poor took her in to put her Toria. So was it was a tour of a number of yourself a number of other people so really me and Simon you know me and sunny side we know everybody here. And I'm. South Africa so suddenly big can experience you know I have our own connection and so it means signing just travelling to different parts. In t.v. . Your book and your book coming on film we want to do a book. But you already have one book don't you yet a book of poetry Yeah 2013 and I knew a children's book. But I did say well our history going back to the blues and coming back to today so are you. Painters or actors you got you didn't even. You got skills you got you got. Cipher skills sat down around I know I'm just a poet you know. I want to do more is it like oh I love point 0.0 point. 0. 00 tally because that's what I'm going to wear issues that I grew up with you know back to me and I still do today so you know fans love police cars very. Put some pie for our name bad. But I. Don't don't even talk about. That. Since the. School puts in Python I and I are wired to have disabilities. Like you know these guys don't talk about that right here so. That's where my records. So you know I think one of the things we're talking with the Roy Moore he is a black white a poet hip hop music lover community activist and famous with a physical disability he's been working all his life coming out of the New York he is a creator of crip hop nation and he is the current chair of the black disability studies working group he's been on the radio in the Bay Area and many other places I guess book out here C.D.'s out and he recently traveled to South Africa on a on the tour. Did you do some performing live in South Africa. No no no I didn't know really you know and connecting with people that I can include for you to work with years for example I can take. You to Jay home on a. Few days where Congress he's in thing for these folks for 34 years I saw that interview I start that interview as though I was in his studio his home you know your joy that yeah I mean you know what about. When I'm and as part of some of the institutions find themselves being male dominated the woman is inclusive with disability black woman woman of color how is that ban in terms of what you're doing with crip hoc now yeah you know I consider myself a practicing their parents so I won't try to play. With you know in their forefront of crude pop or faggot doing. Are One mean with disability and hip hop and the Tanda want to make a very queer we're going to do a cd that it's only you know pays for and by when they want this well it's a good the you really don't see that and taking industry you know. It was you know I. You know people don't realize that. Tally. Is going on and it gave guy. One of color with disabilities. That is you know it's not seen as as much or yeah. Yeah I know some of the and on the show the high profile but some the cases are brother and last. And as someone in Georgia. Well you see a person who was approached by a police officer and there's some clarity there some misunderstand the cleanout person shot yeah yeah yeah you know I sure police brutality. They'd say they'd say well it's all numbers it's 15 percent. Police with no use our he would dissuade I say it's me because usually the numbers only kind of trade I'm mentality this was what he included all disability and he goes up to 70 percent I mean people there are people they're applying I know one guy that was blind and. For a boss you know the police of coached him. And took him down to the ground so he m. Yeah they thought. Ok I claim if I think I'm gonna find out that it was a talking watch you know so cases like these have been alive but the good. Act was of them going playing. We tend towards them you're your parents. Have they seen your your journey I mean they you had a disability as a child that birthed and they knew that they gave you the skills to be. Outspoken and concerned. And tied in with the community how did they see your you work now they say to anybody I know you're going to go. Yeah my I'm going to and I'm on the way the 990 because this is now here it is. Now you know you see that you know he's in. Detroit you know so he's like. Yeah. You know he was there. And not because I'm doing you know you're down with rainbow corps bacteria. So though yeah and now he's becoming disabled because you know he's not playing football so you have bad knees now now you. You know becoming to say it was oh he's beginning this. Magnetism are around he's. What some ways the best ways leeway to keep up with you and keep up with your work you have a Facebook page Yeah Facebook where it's always not here. Where Leroy and moron crip are nice. Those are 2 separate ones Yeah they were more than the other one is crip op nation how it became. How do people get a copy of your book well the children's book is coming out in May and your other book. You could just contact me to drive me an email on I had black crip with a k. Black crip egg team no dot com Of course it's on Amazon but I don't like the poem of guns cause it's like you know give it a yoke a walk so are you know markets books are the door you know tighter so for books was the day our enemies are oh yeah sure one last question if we break here. What is it what would you say to specifically now the African-American community about how we need to get on board and conscious about the issues that you've raised about race and disability and community.