director of the cdc. i spoke to him a few minutes ago about the latest developments. dr. besser, good to have you here. let's start off with what we heard from the head of moderna today, suggesting the vaccines may not stand up, may not be as effective against this variant. is that something unexpected to you and what does the trajectory of this pandemic look like if that's the case? >> well, you know, lester, i think that's one of the big reasons why this is being taken so seriously there's a lot of unanswered questions a big one is how effective are the vaccines that are currently being used against this because of the number of mutations that are seen, the concern is vaccines won't work as well, but that's not known yet. so clearly right now being vaccinated is the best situation to be in until we have further information. >> i know restrictions and shutdowns and mandates can be unpopular at times, but are we using all the tools in the tool box here >> you know, i think we are right now but knowing that those other measures are
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