Moderate immigration turned into a muddle. There certainly can be a softening because were not looking to hurt people. I heard people say its a harden hardening. Monday, trump appeared to defend topresident obamas poli. Lots of people were brought into the country with existing laws. As the week went on, his position multiplied. They have to pay back taxes. They have to pay taxes. There is no amnesty, as such. There is no amnesty. There is no path to legalization. We talked about unless people leave the country. Trump even polled a town hall audience. Number one well see throw out. Number two, we work with them. Ready . Number one. Number two. [ cheers ] who knew that it would be donald trump . [ laughter ] to come and convert the gop base. Trumps latest confusion may be an attempt to soften his image without alienating longtime supporters n. March more than half of Trump Supporters opposed allowing immigrants to stay in the country legally if they met certain requirements but 74 of voters overall supported eventual actual legal status. Trumps positions on immigration is like shaking a magic eight ball. Half the time it comes up and says shake again. Its reflecting what positions ought to be. A former editor at large, the nationals rightleaning website and critic of steve ban none. The longtime char main trump hired to run the flagging campaign. If the polls continue to not be good, then i would not be surprised to see him start edging out other members of the team by saying hes been telling trump all along he should do what he feels is in his heart. Hes making the influence felt about clintons health. Im not saying shes had a stroke or anything like that but this is not the woman that were used to seeing. She doesnt have the stamina to do it even if she wanted to, believe me. Well, joining me now is the chairman of the Republican Party reince priebus. Welcome back, sir. Lets start with immigration. A month ago you predicted in an interview with the Washington Examiner what is his position specifically on the immigrants . Youll see hes giving prepared remarks on the issue i think very soon. I dont want to give a date. I think let me. We dont know . I mean thanks is sort of remarkable we dont know. I dont speak for donald trump. Thats what i do know. Here is what i know. His position will be tough. His position will be fair, but his position is going to be humane. Hes going to build and complete the border wall that was set in place in 2006 by congress. Its going to be paid for. I believe that he is going to when he talks about deportation, hell go after people here and are criminals and shouldnt be here. Who is a criminal under this circumstance, though . Some people believe just being here illegally is a crime. Sure. And that makes you a criminal. Does that count . Well, look, those are the things that donald trump is going to answer, and this is not obviously a simple question. These are not simple issues. If they were simple, obviously, the position simplified it a lot during the primaries some would argue over simplified it. He did simplify it. Now hes reflecting on it and his position is going to be null. Here is the thing, the part about what where donald trump is on this, is hes a guy whose going to be tougher on this issue, tougher on illegal immigration than any politician weve had as a nominee or ever could have as a nominee. Thats not going to change. Hes going to be a law and order candidate, he is. And a law and order president. Do you agree with some of the analysis that says this is jeb bushs policy . I dont. I dont think youre going to see an easy path to legalization. Bushs plan provided an easier plan. The gang of eight was an easier plan to legalization, an easier plan to citizen ship. Youre not going to have a pathway to citizen ship with donald trump. Thats off the table. There is no method by which someone is here illegally that is going to become a citizen and jump the line as Hillary Clinton wants to do. I mean, the real issue is look at the two plans. Look where Hillary Clinton is. She wants to put Barack Obamas immigration plan on steroids. She wants millions of people who are here illegally to cut the line before anyone else. Donald trump praised parts of Barack Obamas immigration. Parts of it. As far as deportation. Parts of it but not Illegal Immigrants jumping the line like Hillary Clinton wants to do. Thats the issuement t. The issue is this is an election of choices. One, allow everyone in through complete amnesty or number two, a tough plan thats pafair and human. Citizen ship is still on Donald Trumps plan. Youll have to ask him. Where is the Republican Party on this . Do you think that should be something that should be the position of the Republican Party . No, i believe in the interpretation of the Supreme Court on the issue. So youre comfortable with birthright citizen ship . Im comfortable with it. Im comfortable with it. Im comfortable with the Supreme Court rulings on the issue. So your advice to him would be dont be touching birthright citizen ship . A nominee is not does not have the doesnt have to adopt every single position and platform position of the Republican Party. If were talking about and what my opinion is on birthright citizen ship does not necessarily have to be adopted by a nominee. My exact view of immigration and how it should be pursued does not have to be adopted by a nominee. Let me ask you this, in the infamous 2013 autopsy, this is what was written in it. If hispanic americans perceive a gop nominee or candidate does not want them in the united states, i. E. Selfdeportation, they will not Pay Attention to the next sentence. Do you think donald trump understands this analysis . I think he understands it completely. I think is that what this evolution is about . You know what . I dont know when you say what the evolution is about, what i think is that donald trump understands that with every position that its taken and as you get closer to the white house, a degree of humani humanity and decency is part of every decision needs to be made. I know donald trump in private. I talk to him every day. I know what hes thinking about the issues and this is a good and descent man that wants to do the right thing and take every position hes talking about and pepper it with decency, dignity and human tar. Lets talk about race. Donald trump called Hillary Clinton a bigot this week. Do you think she is . You have to look at peoples actions. You look at donald trump and his actions and developing and promoting women and breaking a mold, which today we think is nuts but 40 years ago broke the mold in allowing anyone with any bre background, any faith, you look at Hillary Clinton. She labeled African American as super predators. Her campaign and supporters in her campaign were the ones that the birther movement. It was bill clinton and her campaign in 2008 that questioned the success of barack obama, not based on his talent, but based on his race. It was their campaign. Why cant we start judging these people based on what they actually did . She gave out state secrets. She talked about race in a way thats unacceptable. This weeks New York Times outline what trump and his father may have done when it comes to basically keeping African Americans may have done. This is the issue. This is what he may have done. If you look at what hes done as a developer, and putting together golf courses, these clubs, the things hes been doing for the last several decades, he has broken the mold when it comes to this issue, and i can tell you where his heart is at. I know where his heart is at. One of the things he said, he said Hillary Clinton only views African Americans as votes. Not as human beings and this is what he tweeted out yesterday morning after the tragedy about dwayne wade, former heat, chicago bull whose cousin was shot and killed in chicago. Dwayne wades cousin was shot and killed walking her baby in chicago. What ive been saying, African Americans will in all caps vote trump. Appropriate . Here is what i think hes frustrated with. Democrats, i think, have been taking advantage of this vote and providing very little leadership to get things done in urban areas across america. I worked in wisconsin for Tommy Thompson when the first private School Choice bill was put together. It was democrats out of the cities, democrats in the power base of their party that fought School Choice across the state of wisconsin. And to me, if you want to look at leadership in the cities, its education reform, its freeing up sba loans. These are things our party is champing and he says that and its frustrating to see that the democrats go into these cities, i think take advantage of the vote and provide very little leadership in return. Are you happy with the hires . Look, i go with the flow, based on what the campaign wants to do. I think kelly ann is doing a phenomenal job. I dont know steve bannon. Were learning his background and some of it is this the proper background that donald trump should be hiring if hes trying to appeal to women for instance . I dont know how much of it is true or not, neither do you. I dont speculate based on what other third parties say about people. I tend to judge people on what i see and interact with. One final question when it comes to the issue of the Clinton Foundation and tax returns. I want to ask it this way. Donald trump has been hitting her hard and saying all sorts of behind the scenes, pay for play allegations. Does he have does it under cut the message if he doesnt release tax returns . Would he have Higher Ground here and criticizing clintons finances if we saw his tax returns . I dont think so. Roger stone is the latest republican to call for donald trump to release the tax returns a close friend of trumps . I dont think so. If you look at what Hillary Clinton has done when voters look at what Hillary Clinton actually did, they see somebody that they believe broke the law. They see somebody who gave away state secrets and see somebody that went out of her way donald trump but youre judging we dont know. Thats the point. But do you think let me ask you, if we dont know we know Hillary Clinton shouldnt be trusted with National Secrets and with the most precious the most precious information that our country has in their hands. We know she cant be trusted. Are you equating that the known wait conclusion that she cant be trusted with state secrets to what could be in Donald Trumps taxes . Weve had a history of every major nominee releasing their tax returns reince im not suggesting im hes a private businessman whose Companies May or may not benefit from him being president. Thats something voters should want to know. Im not suggesting its a subject good journalist dont know. Im suggesting its preposterous. To equate someone we know gave away youre making an assumption. We dont know. We do know. C cow me said the. Vulnerability. James comey laid out the case for gross negligence. We dont know factually. You dont have the smoking gun. Youre telling me we dont have a smoking gun and we know, we know that confidential top secret emails were part of the information that was put in a private secret server. We know that to be the case. Youre equating that knowledge to the possibility of maybe something isnt right in a tax return that we dont know about . Come on. Okay. Reince priebus, ill leave it there. Good luck. Its been a good two weeks for donald trump and its been a bad two weeks for Hillary Clinton. Well let the panel assess that very question right now. You bet. The panel is here. Hugh hewitt, andrea mitchell. Robert costa and joy reid. All right. Costa, im going to put it to you. That question, a good two weeks for trump and bad for clinton. Coming in trying to get populism back on track for trump and getting trump more disciplined in the message but this is a candidate uncomfortable stay something on script. Well have to see how long it lasts. Has he done damage on immigration or not, hugh . New york city i think he helped himself a lot to bring more humanity. It was a terrible two weeks. I think what we will hear, eight letters fara, fcpa. In trouble on the two complex laws. Andrea, where are you on this . I think donald trump has helped himself on immigration by muddying the waters and making it a little bit less controversial, if you will, on deportation but he has to venn actually be more specific on the debate, lets say. On the law, go back to what cow comey said, he said over and over again and in the letter he sent to the committee afterwards he finds no basis for prosecution. And that has to be the bottom line. In the last part that chairman priebus and i were going back and forth on, this issue, youve got the issues that people have with the Clinton Foundation and what we dont know about trumps businesses, is this equal or not . Not even close to being equal. One of the things that is interesting is we discovered one of the few things we have been able to find out is how much money he owes to foreign banks. Those questions are not going away. I think the American People as you rightly said to reinreince have a right to know. One of the concerns a lot of democratde democratic strategists have had, donald trump has done more to energize after condition americans against him in the last two weeks of out reach than Hillary Clinton has done in a year. By the way, the steve bannon. What did you make of that . Tells me there is concern i will say this, for every steve bannon there is every ann coulter there is more. There is a reflection. The roger stone. Ill say there isnt somebody with connections to White Nationalism in that group you mentioned except steve bannon and thats a significant problem for the Trump Campaign. The Trump Campaign is in new jersey. Ive been covering bannon for five or six years. Hes done zero press appearances. He has conway. These reports are getting republicans nervous. You hear it. I was very were finding out. That was a tell to me, sounds like if the chairman had his preference. Kelly ann conway is a great face for the campaign. Steve bannon is not. Well be back in a moment to talk about the other person that had a rough week. Hillary clinton. 15,000 new emails operated on a pay for play pay sbasis and we d about the ugliness of the Campaign Season but had a really ugly moment earlier this week. Take a listen. I would like to talk to you about your comments about my being a racist you [ bleep ]. That voice mail message left by maine Governor Paul Lepage is just the latest example of a race to the bottom. Maybe by too many politicians and its something that has a and its something that has a lot of voters you can fly across welcome town in minutes16, or across the globe in under an hour. Whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. In less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. And if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. Welcome back. Turning to a week we saw Hillary Clinton answering questions about emails and pay for play or at least a pay for access. Eight years ago after barack obama was first elected, members of his team expressed concerns about the foundation as clinton was tapped as secretary of state. Joining me now to talk about that, david pluff, the architect of 2008 campaigns. Welcome back to the show. Good morning, chuck. I know you were not involved in the transition negotiations at the time but there was definitely concern about the appearance of a clinton as secretary of state and another clinton raising money from foreign entities at a private foundation. Do you believe that the clintons upheld their end of the bargain when it came to the memo of the understanding that was signed by the white house at the time . I do. I think you have to stack backcheck. The Clinton Foundation, its universal agreement has done remarkable work around the world. I think donald trump contributed 100,000 to the foundation. The work its done around aids and malaria, i think they will answer that by saying bill clinton will step down but again, if you look at this from a campaign perspective, youve got the foundation and youve got Donald Trumps merirky worl. Amazing to me, of all the things donald trump has done and a hall of fame of unforced errors that hurt candidacy, the thing hes most concerned about is what is in the tax returns and business dealings. His Foreign Policy is basically centered around attacks on china. He probably has hundreds of millions of dollars of exposure there. Fondness for vladimir putin. There is legitimate questions october the Clinton Foundation and presses clearly spending a lot of time on that but if you look at both candidates in terms of who can you trust and financial dealings, there is not much of a comparison. Let me go back to the Clinton Foundation. Why what was okay at state not okay as president . And it makes you wonder like why didnt why wasnt there thought of former president bill clinton stepping down from the foundation eight years ago . Listen, i think there is a lot of transparency and a great deal obviously, releasing of donors and information being released to why there is so much attention on this. But i think its appropriate. By the way, im glad they are not falling into the drop of shutting down the Clinton Foundation. Why is that . The Clinton Foundation does remarkable work all around the world and i think as long as there is the right transparency, right accountability and those procedures are clear to the public, i think its a huge at butte and contribution to the world. Isnt it a concern, though, if youre at the Clinton Foundation and youre a mayor donor, isnt it a concern now if youre a donor considering how much of a political hot potato it could be, doesnt it undermine the Clinton Foundation efforts because of the political nature of things involving it . I dont think so. If youre someone that cares about the work the Clinton Foundation is doing around the world. Youre going to be very, very passionate about continuing the work Going Forward and people will intensify because i think at the end of the day, these are political attacks. I get were in a political season. Its undeniable. Its a universal fact, the Clinton Foundation is a great addition to the global scene. I guess the issue has to do with the purchasing of access. Which is legal. Supreme court said it is essentially legal to buy access of a politician within reason. Not to get something in return, beyond access, but is that really the problem . The fact that that is legal that essentially a lot of people do expect access in return for a contribution . Well, my strong belief is i dont think people gave to the Clinton Foundation expecting access. Melinda gates, mohammed. You got people, very wealthy people who care about the work of the Clinton Foundation. What about the government of qatar . Are they looking for . Secretary of state wills meet with leaders around the world. You do that anyway over the course of business. I want to ask about the race in general. The last time you were on, you expressed concern that Hillary Clinton couldnt do well in places like virginia and colorado. Well, its the first two states that essentially the campaign pulled out of because they think they have put the campaign away. How did you miss that . Why did you miss read those two states in particular . Those are two tough states. They were uniquely suited to barack obama so when we had that conversation, i think the assessment is donald trump would do some things to appeal to the middle of the electret. Hes not. Basically have a psychopath running for president. He meets the clinical definition wait a minute. Do you really think diagnosing people on air and i assume you dont have a degree in psychology, is that fair . I mean well were jumping to conclusions here. I think this is what gets voters frustrated with this kind of thing. Listen. He the notion of selfworth, pathological lying. So here is i think he does, right . I dont have a degree in psychology but here is chuck, basically the race sits today. I think Hillary Clinton is guaranteed at least 269 electoral votes because virginia and colorado both campaigns are away. At the end of the day 20 chance its close three points and likely going to be a landslide. And donald trump has less than zero and sitting at 269. And in florida, states of ohio, nevada have the advantage. Suburban and improve younger voters. Prepping for donald trump today and who would you have portray trump . Would you have a mark cuban, Something Like that . Well, its a great question. I think, it is going to be difficult because you have to prepare for many different trumps, like well behaved modest tru trump. A trump that doesnt prepare for anything. I think the job of preparing for trump is difficult. You have to have somebody that can play many different roles. Its paface nating. You were in the white house dealing with politics of obama care for years. These are headlines in the last couple weeks, Washington Post won is the one i want to emphasize, Health Care Exchange signups fall short of forecast, literally, one half of what was projected at this point in time on signups, let me ask you this, how concerned are you that ocho b obamacare could implode . Its not been a good year for it . Not at all. You got to step back. You had millions and millions of americans with health care coverage. Health care costs obviously have been on a descent trajectory. So in terms of Overall Health care costs for the country. What will happen after this election, though, is obviously youll have the space to say okay, what is working well and almost all of it is. What needs to be strengthened. Youll see a lot of republican governors acre accept medicaid funding. There is no doubt over time youll step back and say what needs to be adjusted . Given the Insurance Companies bailing on a public option now a mistake . I think the president spoke recently about that, that he i dont think you could get a public option passed. That wasnt going to get pasted. We barely passed it. At the end of the day the president spoke and thats part of the solution Going Forward. Always a pleasure. You got it. A lot to chew on there. Well be back with the panel in a moment and later, those a moment and later, those reports of increasing okay, so whats our latest data say . Our customer is a 21yearold female. A moment and later, those reports of increasing heavily into basketball. Wait. Data just changed. Now shes into disc sports. Ah, no shes not. Since when . Since now. Shes into tai chi. She found disc sports too stressful. Hold on. Let me ask you this. Whats she gonna like six months from now . Who do we have on aerial karate . Steve. Steve. Steve. And alexis. Uh, no. Just steve. Just steve. Just steve. Live business, powered by sap. When you run live, you run simple. But do you really know what it means . 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Ask the candidates for a plan to secure our future. Back with the panel. Before we get into the Clinton Foundation stuff. While i was interviewing reince priebus. Mike pence was on cnn and said lets be clear, nothing has changed. His position on illegal information, illegal immigration, principals and policies are absolutely consistent and actually thanks reminded me of something a spokesperson for the Trump CampaignChristina Pearson said. Let me play it and lets talk about it. He hasnt changed his position on immigration. He changed words he is saying. What he has always said from the beginning [ laughter ] no, that he does not want to allow people to stay in this country illegally. Look, priebused a bitted he changed his position and what he said in the primaries is different, hugh. Are they playing too many ret e rhetorical games here . Thats the north star he cannot depart and will not. Hes always been ambiguous on touch back. Who knows what that meant. We have robert costa here reporting to the Washington Post that donald trump tends to reflect the words of the last person that spoke to him and you can see the disconnect that he literally says its a softening and got uncomfortable with the word softening and said its a hard and incredibly durable and strong wall and i think donald trump has not thought deeply about policy but reflecting whoever is nearest to him or the crowd cheering. Its the crowd thats cheering. Its the push back and it you saw the most blatant example he did a poll and said to the crowd at the hannity town hall what do you want . Do you want to deport them all or not . Is it . Its like the roman circus. Thumbs up, thumbs down. Hes reacting and there is a fight for the mind and heart of donald trump. Kelly ann you got to think about trump as someone surrounded by an orbit. You got roger ailes there and Laura Ingraham and steve ban in there and Kelly Ann Conway and the family worried about the brand for trump. You have all these voices and trump doesnt have a populace core. Thats not who he is. This crucial trunk tour is being flooded with advice. The businessman in him probably is why he keeps gravitating toward middle ground because ultimately, middle ground is where hes comfortable. I should point out kelly ann said roger ailes was not at that meeting. There was is a disconnect there. She said shes not been at a meeting roger ails is a friend and advisor. Ails may have been not in that same the question i think that voters could rightly ask then, if this is a person so easily weighed by the loudest voice in the moment, what does that mean for his Decision Making . You look at the people around him. People like steve bannon who is a toxic personality around him and think about that inner circle. We may be one drop away from bannon not being part of this campaign. Secretary clinton carries more baggage. I want to transition sidney blumenthal. If you want to talk about toxic people, lets hone in on sydney. When you talk about the people behind him. Donald trumps economic advisors are donors and a policy that would be beneficial ending state his state tax. I Clinton Foundation, what i dont understand is the Obama White House knew this was a problem. Signed by everybody. And means you know was interesting, he wasnt fully comfortable. I noticed this week they rally around her all the time except are the foundation comes up. I didnt see dan pfeiffer. David axelrod tweets backing her up. Here is the push back and something that we really have to get on because they say they are winding it down but what im told is it is really hard to wind this down. For one thing, she was asked on friday and Foundation Operations on the ground. The Clinton Foundation does do. And the foundations acre cemented the whole health care component. Chelsea clinton is going to be on the board. Ive been saying this. Thats not news. The fact is that shes still going to be on the board to wind this down. Doing good work. Let me finish. Bill clinton said that on to all of us in the press on wednesday that they are not going they dont want anyone to be fired. Its going to be a slow wind down. Not by the times if shes elected. Im not saying the quid proquo. One moment. The quid is very wealthy people, give 11. 5 Million People aids drugs and huma abedin may call you back. We have to ask whether weve invented a standard. The george bush foundation, which benefits him and his library and accepts foreign donations existed through the eight years of his sons presidency. I dont recall us asking whether people who might want to influence president george w. Bush because if they give to a foundation that benefitted not financially. The state Department Said they find nothing where there is proof of action and ive got to tell you when we went through the a. P. Story, they found emails can i tell you, when were debating very quickly. When were debating proof of this and that. Here is what the voter hears. Rich people get access and by the way thats thats legal and thats american politics. This is the key question. I went on the trails with mike pence yesterday talking to swing voters for trump. You get the sense the clintons came out with a bright speech on the Trump Campaign and the republicans have all this chatter about the Clinton Foundation. Who is hearing what right now in this campaign . 7 five days left, the Clinton Campaign and foundation. Great closing point. Well pause it there. There it is. When we come back, republicans are making registration gains in are making registration gains in so images, videos, social updates. We call it dark data. 80 is invisible to most businesses. The ibm cloud has tools that can help see dark data and put it to work. Hello, my name is watson. 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Go online and put down Hillary Clinton illness, take a look at the videos for yourself. John mccain has fallen down on the job. Hes gotten weak, old, i do know what happens to the body and mind at the end of life. Through it all, he has continued pushing discredited conspiracy theories with racist under tones. Mr. Trump we know paid zero taxes in at least four years. If you look at a guys tax return, and you find hes using to not paying taxes, there is a guy thats trying to dodge veterans. So the lowest moment that did take place in the president ial level took place in maine. Look at the voice mail the governor of main left. I would like to talk to you about your comments about me being a racist you [ bleep ]. And i want to talk to you, you want i want you to prove that im a racist. T. Ive spent my life helping black people and you little son of a [ bleep ] socialist [ bleep ]. Yeah. Wow. And i didnt even bring up we had a republican senator call the president a drug dealer. Weve had other andrea, we always say new low and cry wolf four years ago now nasty the campaign is is. We surpassed anything. We go back to showing peter hearts focus group. I have more of it. When asked what is the odor of the scent, skunk, eggs. I may not hear it from you. Lets hear it from them. Let me show you. Good. From chemistry class, sulfur, rotten eggs. Garbage. I cant say it on the air so ill say dead fish. Stinks. Garbage. Rotten eggs. Skunk. Skunk. Skunk. Garbage. Garbage. Let me set the scene, four are trump voters, four clinton, four undecided. They are unified on one thing. The odor on the campaign. It is loathing of Hillary Clinton. Among some of her supporters that said shes a liar. They dont like her to fear, real fear of donald trump because of things hes said and because of how the clinton team has portrayed him as being reckless and not up to being commander in chief. I think voters, we have what are we doing . Its getting uglier and louder that youve elected officials feel like they have to say chuck, the to get through . The great irony, Hillary Clinton did this speech. The irony is this is the kind of discourse that the altright dreams of. The driving idea and sort of embodies this is to explode the idea ofunacceptable, acceptable and talk about people in the Lgbt Community because their idea is what is destroying conservatism, republican in the country. This is the campaign of the dreams. When i talk to my sources in the Republican Party, close to the Trump Campaign, their outlook is bleak. If the Clinton Campaign can make the argument this is about temperament and tone, the swing voters in the suburbs of North Carolina and ohio are likely to tilt toward clinton. But bigger than trump and clinton. I dont want to get lost. This is bigger than trump and clinton in that we have conditioned the american political whatever you want to call it now, american mpolitics institution to this crud. It is a resentment election. Some are run on celebration and hope like president obama in 2008. These two candidates have been around for so long in the public eye, they have many enemies and president was new, mitt romney was new, john mccain was a war hero. We had two cycles where people are afraid to take the gloves off. Both have been punching bags for everyone. I want to bring up the fact its clear that senators can say drug dealer with the and it starts, i would say this is what a great senator called defining it down. It is so course and so vulgar but i guess you would say who started it . Maybe it started its not about who started it. I dont want to get into that. It is. There is rough and there is it is rough. There is rough. There is name calling. Its natural defined a new low. You have to go back and look at sarah palin realities in 2008. A lot of African Americans looked at the campaign and said this is the beginning of opening a door on race were now opening on other areas. There is a pivot point that did begin with the essential of barack obama. Especially after two years, regan, 88 was a rough campaign and administrations and 60, 68 had a lot of fire to it. This is different because its 24 7 media environment and each minute and everyone i think its a lot of the provocatives are entrepreneurs. That is the reason why its become acceptable. The Fact Checking doesnt seem to matter. Well be back in 45 seconds with end game. The opponents of political correct n correctness, speaking of, got an interesting alley in the unlikeliest of places. Coming up, meet the press end game brought to you by end game brought to you by boeing. It only takes one genius to change a light bulbyou led bulbs use 85 less energy and last a long time, saving you up to 100 over each bulbs lifetime. So change yours today. Meet the press end game is brought to you by boeing. We are back, back now with end game. Interesting little note. At the university of chicago to incoming students. Lets put it on the board. This is note. Our commitment to Academic Freedom means we do not support socalled trigger warnings, we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial and individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at odds with their own. I have to say this came across after what has been an odd few years of maybe over campus reactions, as this was i thought what college was about. A lot of research universit universities and schools that dont have the same problems, are putting this out. There are guidelines on most universities now were not cancelling speeches no matter how controversial or offensive and that gets back to the definitions that go all the way but going to college debate. To have debate and access to controversial this was done because of a committee put together by jeffrey stone. A big liberal. I used this teaching law for years. Professor stone is an adamant defender of open expression everywhere and its long over due and im not surprised the university of chicago started it. Joy, somebody might say you just talked about the meanness of the campaign before and now you guys are praising it. There is a difference. This is being done with intellectual leto it. There are teachers nervous about the lek tuctures because e might be reaction from a student. I think weve gone too far in the direction of not allowing intellectual debate. As long as colleges are careful not to allow harassment, which in the enter anytime age can happen. I love there is a real protest, movement. People are politically engaged there is too much sensitivity deferring view. Everyone should be respected but at the same time, when i was at notre dame, i loved when i heard someone from the far left versus right. Lets see the debates. I got to go to school and one day i saw Jesse Jackson and the next day newt gingrich. It was great. And i went to both events. Lets face it, Hillary Clinton started as a gold water republican girl and it was all of the years and the people she came in contact with that changed her and we all change. For eugene mccarthy. Does ideology be part of the conversation in newsrooms and all sorts of places. One other thing about your comment about the 88 campaign and what they did with the helmet and the rest, it was a rough campaign but pre talk radio and cable tv and really pre internet and the velocity of what is going back and forth and meanness and crudeness of the campaign and the fact you can get four pa knock owes but doesnt matter. What a week. Good to be back. Love the olympics but i was done with the marathons. 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