Transcripts For KNTV Meet The Press 20160801

Copy. Trump yesterday seemed to question why the mother of the fallen muslim army captain did not speak. The story is making headlines today and appears to be another d d distraction that the Trump Campaign did not need. We begin with Trump Campaign chairman. Welcome back to meet the press. I want to play for you a comment that was said this morning responding to the most recent statement that the campaign has put out, here it is. We have a candidate without moral compass, without em pathy for its citizens. The way he showed disrespect towards the golden star, mother of this country, that says it all. Your wife . My wife, the brave of my son. Can you explain why mr. Trump went so hard after mr. Khan . This, again, the clinton narrative. He feels sorry for what they have gone through just as he had felt sorry for the victims that spoken for the republican convention. Thats not the issue. The issue is not the khan family, not the mendoza facmily. The issue that mr. Trump is talking about and i expect the media should be talking about is protecting American Homeland from National Security terrorist. And mr. Trump said very clearly for months now, the policy thats been ignored, which is that he believes that we need to have a temporary suspension from stop refugees from coming in from countries that are terrorist activities are ram pid or in a war. Thats the issue, not the khan family loss, not the loss of many other family americans that we all regret. The second part of the issue which is being ignored is because of these losses forced our American Military to go into syria, that cause was the policies that were put together in january of 2009 by president clinton and secretary obama that caused isis to rise. Isis didnt exist before 2009. They exist today, theyre causing the problems that were facing, those are the two issues, protecting the homeland and stopping the war and going after isis in a way that ends the terrorism. The losses of the khan family and the americans we have lost, thats tragic. The only way were going to stop it is to focus on the real issues and thats what mr. Trump is doing and frankly what secretary clinton did in her speech on thursday was totally ignoring that. She sees an america that is mourning in america. Its not mourning in america. If its midnight in america like she says, its the policies of obama and clinton that cause it to be midnight. Ive got to ask you, though, it does seem as if the temperament question is coming into play. In the last three days hes gone after gold star parent, personally, and youve had to backtrack there and you yourself just did it. He called a former nato general john allen a failed general. Referred to new york mayor as a little man. Ive got to ask you, why all these insults does that not raise a temperament issue. I assume you would not be advising him to go about responding in this way. Well, chuck, that youre repeating talking points of the Clinton Campaign. This is not a temperament issue. Clinton campaign is trying to make it into temperament campaign for one reason, they know over 70 of American People dont believe a thing she said. Shes putting up policies shes going to do have no credibility. Her talking about the Obama Administration did a great job and deserves an a and lets talk about American Families figuring out how to pay the bills. The American Economy is not going to negotiate, the day after her convention, you know, the part of the latest Second Quarter broke 1. 2 , the country is not working. Thats the only issue that clinton can try to get you, the media, to cover in hopes of covering what the real issues of america are. We can only cover what the campaign is in front of us and my question is you brought up the gdp, keep bringing up other stuff, that question is, what is mr. Trump focused on . If he gets distracted why shouldnt this be an issue that concerns voters of him in the oval office if he can get distracted by personal criticism . Hes not distracted. The issue that youre focused on was that the election against sanders and sanders delegates be upset. That wasnt the issue, the issue was the lack of moral conviction on the part of the Clinton Campaign that worked with the dnc to rig the system. Did you talk about the moral flaherty of that decision. When mr. Trump talked about isnt it ironic that Foreign Countries and foreign enemies of ours might have the 33,000 emails that the fbi doesnt have, did you focus on that fact, the risk of National Security, no. The issues are in front of you, youre taking the clinton narrative and focused on the issues that are effecting the American People. Does it matter if a Foreign Government wants to take part in our election, do you condemn that. Of course we condemn that. Mr. Trump is making a point that isnt ironic that 33,000 emails that our fbi cant have that may go to National Security issues are sitting probably in the Foreign Countries of friends and enemies alike. Thats the issue. So its there in front of you, its the clinton narrative is putting out their talking point they know anything she says wont have any credibility and theyre getting you to cover it instead of the standpoint of what effects the American People. Let me ask you this, there was another comment made about debate. Do you plan clarify this, do you plan on participating in any debates that conflict with the nfl . Look, were going to sit down with the commissioner and talk, again, the dnc showed you that the Clinton Campaign was working to schedule debates against sanders which had the least possible viewing audience. Mr. Trump said we want the maximum viewing audience, im not sure what the stakes are going to be ultimately. Hes made it clear as recently as friday he wants to debate. He wants them to have the larger audience well work with the commission to try and identify what the dates are. Were not going to ploy that she did against Bernie Sanders we want the biggest. Before i let you go, theres been controversy about something in the Republican Party platform that essentially changed the republican parties views when it comes to ukraine, how much influence did you have on changing that language, sir . I had none. I didnt even hear of it until after our convention was over. Where did it come from, then, everybody on the Platform Committee said it came from the Trump Campaign, if not you, who . It absolutely did not come there the Trump Campaign. I dont know who everybody is. Nobody wanted that change in the platform . No one, zero. Okay. I will leave it there. Appreciate you coming on this morning. Thank you, chuck. Earlier this morning, i did speak, as i noted with mr. Manafort, here is a bit of that interview. Mr. Khan, welcome to meet the press. Good morning, thank you. Your speech was one of the most memorable and emotional moments of the convention. Did you expect to have your speech have such an impact . Not at all. I was surprised, myself. I spoke from heart. Those were my parts and edited by my wonderful wife, i would read it to her while getting ready, while traveling on the train and she would edit and say, no youre not going to say this, no this is not for the occasion. What she telling you not to say . What were the things that youre going to put me trouble in trouble with her. These are my parts and these are my words and then pause because i was hinting by that to some pleasures and some plagerism that took place, the stewardship of this country needs to be hands of the person who has m moral compass. Who can relate, who have some empathy with the citizens he wishes to lead. This candidate is wide of both. She asked me not to say that, so i deleted that. I dont manufacture these i understand incidence. The way he showed disrespect towards the golden star, mother of this country, that says it all. Your wife . My wife, the brave mother of my son. Hes hero of this country. We dont take these values lightly. We have testament to the goodness of this country. We experience the goodness of this country every day. It affirms our belief that we made the right choice. Then to see when we got back home our 40year old granddaughter said to her grandmother, why were you so upset . Why were you so sad . A 40yearold person can feel that sadness, yet the candidate for the president of the United States cannot empathize with the people that he wishes to lead . He responded to your question, what sacrifices have you made when you so poignantly asked that question. He said i think ive made a lot of sacrifices. Ive worked very hard. I think there are sacrifices. When i can employ thousands of thousands of people, take care of so many things, i mean, i was very responsible along with a gr group of people of getting the memorial built. I raise and have raised millions of dollars for the vets. Im helping the vets a lot. I think my popularity with vets is through the roof. Do those constitute the sacrifices that you are referring to when you were asking him that. I appreciate his statement calling my son a hero and making this clarification and statement. Because of his policies and rhetoric of division of dividing us and that is why employed him to read the constitution, because that document, it wasnt just showing him the constitution, i was pointing towards the values in that constitution and showing foundation of this wonderful country and this nation. I was in my another conversation, i asked and i appealed to the leadership of Republican Party that they should disassociate themselves. Made it directly to Mitch Mcconnell by name and paul ryan by name. Thats correct. You were fans of both of them. I have tremendous respect for both of them, the republican and democrats are as patriotic as anyone else. This is a vertical process. Its a wonderful, beautiful process. In that particular process there are some moral ethical values of this country that need to be maintained and managed. Second, now i havent seen any it seems like my appeals are falling on deaf ears. I employ americans that would probably work for donald trump in november, i appeal to them not to vote for hatred, not to vote for fear, vote for unity, vote for the goodness of this country, vote for liberty and freedom, so my appeal now is to the defaults that are going to be taken toward for trump. You said to me off camera, that a lot of republicans have reached out to you in the last couple of days, tell me about that conversation. I had such both of us, mrs. Khan and i have had such of love and affection and support from all ranks of this society, several females need to distinguish republican say all of their lives we have voted republican, not in this election. Said, you have touched our hearts, we had these words and these parts and feelings in our hearts, but we want you to know that we will vote republican in this election. Has any elected republican leader reached out to you . I would rather not disclose the names. That is a personal trust and faith that they have placed by writing to me, by speaking with me, but there are almost one third of the emails and the documents and the calls and the messages that we continue to receive, the flowers, we continue to receive at home. People are coming in, strangers on the street, this morning i was coming to you and i stepped out the door of the hotel and two persons came and gave me hug. I dont know them. And they said, you have done something that our hearts always had, you have given words to it. Mr. Khan, thanks for coming in and sharing your story. Thank you. Appreciate it. Tht cant be easy this cant be easy to have to relive this. Joining me now is the Campaign Manager for Hillary Clinton. Thanks. I want to start with the news of the weekend involving your campaign and apparently some version of a hack, either into your Campaign System or the dnc, a continuation of it. What can you clarify as a hillary Clinton Campaigns computers been hacked . Well, chuck, as weve explained in the press, the campaign, itself, based on everything weve been told by the experts that are monitoring this work constantly, the campaign itself, to our knowledge, has not been breached. The system that youre mentioning, is the system run by the dnc that our campaign and another other entities were utilitizing. What kind of concern that the voters have by dnc and by extension they cant protect data . Well, chuck, first of all as i said, you know, theres an absolutely no evidence that the campaign has been breached. I know the dnc is taking all necessary steps to protect the data and our campaign will continue to do the same. I think whats very disturbing about this entire situation is first that theres a foreign power, aggressively breaking in to data systems trying to apparently influence the out come of the campaign, but then we saw the other day that donald trump made comments to actually encouraging more of this behavior, more espionage in the race. I think every voter needs to take note of this and i find it very frightening that any president ial campaign for any reason is encouraging this kind of behavior. Thats not becoming of someone who is trying to become our commander chief and president of the United States. You heard mr. Manafort, the campaign had since said he was being sarcastic. Do you take him at his word on that. And, second, mr. Manafort said the issue here were the 33,000 emails, how do you respond . First of all, trump only said that this was a joke after he came under enormous criticism and pressure for what he said. Im not quite sure how credible that is. But, look, he is running to be president of the United States, the person in charge of all of our armed forces, the person in charge of our entire National Security apapparatus. This is not a political issue. I dont want to get this confused with the back and forth we might have about Economic Issues or anything else, this is a matter of National Security now and i find it very frightening that donald trump is encouraging any foreign power to breach a campaign and try to influence the out come of the election. Let me ask you about the 33,000 emails are the emails that were deleted, that secretary clinton said were deleted, they were thought to have not relevance at all in the state department. If there is a way to release them, would you would the Clinton Campaign encourage the public release of those emails. Well, look, sure. This is this is settled over now. Secretary clinton went in and testified for 11 hours in front of congressional committee. They asked her a lot of questions they came up with nothing. The fbi has concluded their look at this issue and so were moving on. When hillary has been out there on her economic tour the last few days talking with voters, theyre asking her about how they can afford college and get a better job and thats what well stay focused on. If you could release them, do you want them released. Its not a relevant discussion any more. This matter has been concluded. Many officials have taken a long look at this and were just moving forward. All right. So youre not taking a position on whether you want to see these emails, really. Its just not a relevant question any more because this matter has been concluded and youre asking about hypothetical emails that may or may not be there and so were just going to stay focused on that the voters were asking about. I want to talk about the influence of Bernie Sanders on this campaign and i want to play with you play for you excerpts from Bernie Sanders, essentially, his first big speech after announcing for president and just a post against the acceptance speech on thursday night. Here it is, i want to get your reaction on the other side. 99 of all income goes to the top 1 . When more than 90 of the gains goes to the top 1 thats where the money is. And were going to follow the money. Wealthiest individuals an the largest corporations that their fair share of taxes. Wall street, corporations and the super rich are going to start paying their fair share of taxes. Tuition and public colleges and universities free. Make College Tuition free for the middle class and debt free for all. Is it fair to say Bernie Sanders campaign had a big chunk of influence on your acceptance speech . Well, the i think the College Affordability plan that she mentioned in there, that was something that she and senator sanders worked together after the primary had concluded. Were proud of that plan. It was something thats part of our platform. There were a number of issues where they worked together on the platform. I wish we could have played some of clintons earlier speeches as well. Shes been talking about the deck is stacked against middle class for some time, that the wealthiest americans are not paying their fair share and that we need to start giving working people a fair shot again. In fact, thats what shes talking about, thats what she was talking about yesterday, thats what shes going to be talking about today on this economic tour that shes doing in pennsylvania and ohio with senator kaine. Theyre talking about how theyre going to create more good paying jobs for working class people and get wages rising again. Ive dot to leave it there. Joining us from brooklyn, thanks for getting up early, i i appreciate it. When we come back, well go over all of this with our panel, the convention will be enough. Think about everything thats happened post connection. And later is russia trying to ma l nip late the president ial at the beginning of the 21st century, the earth needed to find a new way to keep up with the data from over 30 billion connected devices. Just 30 billion . So, a bold group of researchers and computer scientists in Silicon Valley had a breakthrough they called. The machine. The machine. It changed the basic architecture of computing. Putting a massive pool of memory at the center of everything. And by doing so. It changed the world. Its been a part of every new technology for the last 250 years. Everything . 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I felt and a lot of people will feel, i think it stems from lack of empathy, lack of respect, lack of basic decency and i wonder what the moral pig me is doing and when i see Paul Manafort on the program issuing regret, it didnt strike me as an emotion but just a word. Alex . I got to get you to respond to this. Sure, im not sure im worthy talking about the sacrifices families made for their country. God blessed them and they deserve our respect and sorrow and appreciation. I think there is an issue that is worth talking about here, and that is when you look at Angela Merkel in germany, shes about to get thrown out of office because of unfiltered immigration from a part of the world identity and security is compromised and donald trump has a legitimate point to make we should do something about that and thats the argument in this election. The status quo more of whats going on now, you know, basically letting that happen unfiltered or do something about it. I think there perhaps are clearer ways to make that point. Alex, i listen to the words coming out of your mouth especially in the beginning expressing sympathy for the family and there are many people, including republicans, wondering why didnt donald trump say that initially and immediately . I talked to a trump loyalest that said to me i think in two weeks people arent going to remember khizr khans name. I think people will disagree with that. A judge brought up multiple times this feels impactful to republicans as that moment did to donald trump. I think there are moments remany up cr republicans but a state department under Hillary Clinton that ignored requests for security in benghazi and debated what uniforms people should wear while people were left alone to suffer and eventually die. You know, so i think there are arguments here, to see Hillary Clinton portrayed as the candidate of moral clarity and honesty here i notice mr. Khan didnt go that far as to embrace her no, alex, i think this is a moment that will be remembered. Its almost a moment like using your word decency, have you no decency . Somehow you have a powerful story told by a man and the candidate somehow looks at the wife and say why didnt you say anything . I had a son in combat the same time as this young soldier was killed. I dont know what i would do if he was lost and im standing there behind the picture. How you can assume that kind of temper mental quality will understand other peoples points of view. I think he stood as a symbol of pride from Muslim Americans and predicted a bridge too far when he said john mccain wasnt a hero. I thought that was it. I think everything is topsyturvey. Trump talked about temperament. I think i have the best temperament. Certainly one of the best temperaments at anyone thats ever run for the office of president ever because i have a winning temperament, i know how to win because my whole life ive been winning. David, you wanted to respond. One final point. This wasnt just a comment about mr. Khan but a Campaign Based on bigotry. His campaign took off after San Bernardino and banning muslims. I know what temperament means. The guy cant obtain his attention span. His mind goes bing, bing, bing, bing to one thing after another and its just a dangerous prospect in a president to have somebody who just cant control whats going to come out of his mouth in the next 30 seconds. Donald trump has not cost any americ american soldier his life. Hillary clinton to request for security in june 2011 said please withdraw these requests because they make us look bad. That actually had concrete results and by the way, if islam were only a religion, then i think there is no single american in this country that would say we should discriminate but islam as the king of jordan said is at war with itself. There is no separation of church and state within islam. How do we treat something new like this . Do we let our openness be used to undermine our openness and tolerance against tolerance. These are issues we should debate and should not be discriminatory. Well have more time i promise in this show but i need to sneak in a break. I ask julian you both have a perfect driving record. Until one of you clips a food truck. Then your rates go through the roof. Perfect. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. Liberty mutual insurance. Spending the day with my niece. That make me smile. I dont use super poligrip for hold, because my dentures fit well. 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What appears to be russias attempt to expose Democratic Party emails and sabotage the campaign does seem entirely new and claimed one victim, Debbie Wasserman schultz and wikileaks promises there is more to come. Julian assange currently facing extradition to sweden. Let me start with the wikileaks core mission in the service that you have wanted it to perform to speak truth to power, are you concerned if Foreign Government uses your entity that you have now seen wikileaks get weaponized . Well, James Clapper on friday, the head of u. S. Intelligence said theres been a lot of hyper ventilation in the press and it was impossible even to ascribe motive at this stage let alone who it is is the exact quote. We dont know enough to ascribe motivate regardless. The hyper ventilation comes from James Clapper. Thats where were starting with u. S. Intelligence. I think its extremely interesting, however, that the Clinton Campaign in order to divert attention from proof that we published that the Sanders Campaign was within the entity, not simply comments within the dnc but chain of command issuing orders to push around without attribution fake stories showing that sanders supporters were violent amongst others, that is pushed for the public and response, what does the Clinton Campaign do . They try to take attention away from a very serious domestic allegation about an election and try and bring in foreign policy. Well, the easiest way, mr. As assange to the head of the dni, the Clinton Campaign is pulling politics to create an international conflict. Let me ask you this this is unusual have to come out i understand. But the easteiest way to clear up, that a Foreign Government did not hand you this material . The issue at hand here is the idea that a Foreign Government is using you as a go between, is using wikileaks, this is not about accountability on public figures. This is one Foreign Government going after another Foreign Government using you as the intermediary. That seems to be a different deal than for instance a whistle blower handing material over to expose government authoritarian or Something Like that. What i can say categorically is we have published proof that the Election Campaign of Bernie Sanders were corrupt and others within the dnc. We can say that categorically with proof. To anything else, we can speculate. Its an interesting question but as a source protection organization, many sources across the world of many different types rely on to protect their identities and rights to communicate the truth to the public. And thats what were talking about here communicating i totally understand that. When a Foreign Government gets involved, there is a difference there. You said yourself thats an interesting question. Why not be fully transparent and say here is the material. Where it comes from doesnt change the facts in the material but it is helpful to know that if a Foreign Government is involved, isnt that crucial information to civilians . I think that is an interesting question. The difficulty that wikileaks has, of course, we cant, you know, go around speculating on who our sources are. That would be irresponsible. You cant speculate. You know the answer. Mr. Assange, you said you cant go around speculating. Do you not know the answer . We dont give any material away as to who our sources are. Its a security matter, we have a perfect track record let me ask you this, do you accept Accurate Information all right and on the other hand, of never revealing our sources all right. Let me ask you this, do you without revealing your source on this, do you accept information in leaked documents from foreign sources is this. What we publish is guaranteed to be true. Thats what were concerned about and readers are concerned about and the right of the general public. Isnt the right of the public to know the motive to also know the motive very serious information which is producing great journalism. The real question is what is the leg legitimacy now and accountability of what occurred where we have clear proof of sabotage. Our sources within the dnc say that they believe more had been going but what about the election . Whats the regress for the people that effectively one can argue had had a candidate as a result of corrupt practices within the dnc. Does that not trouble you at all if a Foreign Government is trying to meddle in the affairs of another Foreign Government . Its an interesting speculating question for the press that doesnt bother you . That is not part of wikileaks well, its a story. If youre asking would we accept information from u. S. Intel jens to be completely accurate and would we publish that . T the answer is yes, of course we would. Ill leave it there. Appreciate your time and you coming on meet the press this morning. You got it. Well post the full unedited interview as we do for all of our interviews on our website, meet the pre meet the pre meet the press n brks krrks you can fly across welcome town in minutes16, or across the globe in under an hour. Whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. In less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. And if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. Hi mom. Grandma oh joey run and get a cookie, ok . Let me see it today. This is what it can be like to have shingles. A painful blistering rash. Oh mom. If you had chickenpox the shingles virus is already inside you. One in three people will get shingles in their lifetime. 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Throw in iowa, New Hampshire and nevada also with some blue collar voters in it and it would get trump to 257. One more than he needs. He does it without winning florida. Look, its a narrow inside straight and this assumes trump doesnt lose any other red states like georgia, arizona or states like georgia, arizona or utah but the point is, safety doesnt come in a box. Its not a banner that goes on a wall. Its not something you do now and then. Or when its convenient. Its using stateoftheart simulators to better prepare for any situation. Its giving offshore teams onshore support. And its empowering anyone to stop a job if something doesnt seem right. At bp, safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better. At bp, safety is never being satisfied. You doyoull see whatet but in youre really made of. After five hours of spinning and one unfortunate ride on the gravitron, your grandkids spot a 6 foot banana that you need to win. 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I was vissously attacked by mr. Khan at the democratic convention. Am i not alloweded to respond . When he says i have a winning temperament because i won my whole life, he doesnt understand. Our greatest leaders learn from failure and lose. Abraham lincoln was nearly suicidal and persevered and came back. Trump would probably call him weak. Fdr lost his ability to walk and came back. You learn from making mistakes. You manage negative emotions as you said and learn somehow to listen. You have empathy for people. That is a quality that make up temperament. I think this race is about temperament. I absolutely do. Alex, i got to get you in on this. Well, i think this is an election a choice between temperament and character. Is it a new testament election where things are going swimmingly and we turn the other cheek or is this an old te testament election where we could lose it all and eye for an eye. So i think yes, there are a lot of questions about temperament but character and strength are important here, too. Were in washington. Were the protected class. Were going to survive this election without disturbance no matter what, right . Thats not true for the rest of america. This is a choice for a lot of families. I think we ought to have a little more temperament can be a little aggressive sometimes, sure, but you need strength to hold the country together and get aside of the ditch here. What strikes me about the tweet, am i not allowed to respond. Not that youre not allowed to respond but you dont have to respond to all of it and sometimes it feels as though donald trump is taking the democrats or Hillary Clinton or putting things out there and hes taking the bait they are clearly baiting him. I will say wait a minute. They are clearly baiting. Weve learned, there is no reverse gear on his car. Hes about going forward. They clearly bait him and he does take the bait. Were not in new testament or Old Testament or an inferno you both are frightening me [ laughter ] the testament, decency, he needs for him to have any chance of winning and they showed a map, i think the maps matter less this year. I think youre right. Were not playing by the normal rules of politics. By normal rules hes crushed. The violence in the world may create a vortex with no rules applying and his chance of winning, which he does have obviously is if there is unleashing of attackers drum beat of dream beat and says you cant afford gentleness and Hillary Clinton did not preempt that. Its funny, that is when i thought about this khan thing and responses and manafort, it is macro, micro, right . In the individual, this seems totally nuts the way he responds to these things, but he sticks to this argument of insecurity. It resonates with people when you go out on the campaign trail at these rallies where hes doubling down on all of the comments that hes made. People are responding to it and i think that is sometimes difficult to see when youre back in washington or in new york is when you get out in places like davenport or Colorado Springs where we were. People were going nuts for him still and granted, these are supporters and people that make up his base but different feeling. It feels different when youre out there. Thats what we miss in washington sometimes is the urgency of the moment. It doesnt seem urgent for us for the political close but for a lot of america, they see a country facing decline and they think this may be our last chance to do something about it. Doris, it does if there was one thing the donald trump speech felt darker andme hillar clintons speech felt more optimistic. It felt like they exaggerated points. What is it . And what does the public think . Somewhere in the middle of the two points is where the country is. The country still feels i bet most people do that were the greatest country in the world. I agree with that in which hillary said but lots of problems and the problems with the middle class struggling have been going on for decades and decades and the globalization and they dont have a descent job and i dont think either party answered those problems for awhile. That group is out there ready to be angry and listened to and its going to be the democratic challenge to somehow really talk to them, not just in policy but in emotional terms. Thats what bernie did talk to them more emotionally. Trump connected emotionally and democrats. Can i say there are two countries here with one feeling extreme pain, theres opiate addiction and if i do this, i get that and that basic sense of responsibility is severed. I was struck how both conventions featured 20 or 30 grieving parents, both of them. That is not something i remember from past conventions but thats the sense of loss, crystallized that a lot of people feel. Let me sneak in one last break. 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This map here, we have alex running a super pac thats only running ads in three states. I have to say by conventional means makes no sense. This makes no sense and we are headed into august what feels like donald trump is about to experience the john kerry 2004, august, which is basically no advertising versus an incumbent party unleashing the world. We hope to repair that and remain competitive. Hillary clintons pact is supposed to spend 250 million but yes, were in ohio, pennsylvania and florida. Thats it. Those are the only three. I think those are the states that count. If donald trump is competitive in those states, he has a shot competitive. Competitive. You have to win all three in your mind. I think he has to win all three and also, because tim kaine is going to take virginia, i think, makes that very difficult. You got bring i think it will be very tough now. I think that brings North Carolina into play. So your final four that you care about thats what you want to keep an eye on. Ohio, pennsylvania, florida, North Carolina. Im not sure the on slot of advertising in august will make that difference moving the needle. Conventions are earlier. Olympics coming up. I dont know the American Public is tuning in and paying attention. We need more [ laughter ] it is, goes to your point, david, doesnt feel like a conventional campaign. It doesnt feel like lets target the state by state. It feels like a nationalized campaign. Its about nationalized move. Frankly, if youre trying to win pennsylvania, these are long shots like steph curry shots. Not so much. Pennsylvania is like ohio. Trump rearranged the map. This is an angry working class guy election and one of the questions is is the angry white guy, is that a stronger component of this election than the hopeful endorse the maps are always the same until they are not. Right. Meaning an election we swear to got this is the map until we have an election that up ends it. When you look at huge number of states reliably democrat and republican, we are polarized because people are living next to people that believe the same thing and geographically one part of the country is one. Thats not good for a country that needs a collective sense of experience. And may be why we dont understand the experience the other is having. Absolutely. Perfect way to end the show. Sorry we dont have an extra 30, 40, 50 minutes because we could have used it. Thats it for today. Well be back next week because if its sunday, meet the press. Early today starts right now. Good morning everyone. Im dara brown. With less than 100 days donald trump faces criticism over his comments that seem to