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Song turned sinister. I couldnt believe what i was hearing. My hard was pounding. We need to figure this out fast. Here is andrea with without a trace. A sad fact of life, gone without a trace. Nationwide there are almost 100,000 active missing persons cases. Since december 2013 date lines online missing in america series has been telling some of those heartbreaking stories. One of the first came from the heartland where not everything is serene. This is the quadcity, urban, industri industrial, gritty. Four cities split by the Mighty Mississippi river two on the iowa side, two in illinois. These days, the quad cities is a sometimes uneasy mix of oldfashioned midwestern values and modern urban life, where crime is an inescapable part of the landscape. This is where carrie olson went missing in december of 2013. She had a heart of gold. And she made you always feel welcome. Amanda smith and carey were amanda smith and carrie were b. F. Fs from the moment they met at as 11 yearolds at a neighborhood pool. We were just swimming together one day, and sparks just flew. How do little girls have sparks . What was it about carrie . She was outgoing, fun. Shed push you in the pool. Shed splash you. And shed give you the best bear hugs. You know, just would send tingles through your body and made you feel so special. Reporter the vivacious carrie was a people person and according to sarah paxton, another friend, a dog person too. She loved her kolby. Her dog, kolby jack. Kolby cheese. She loved, loved, loved kolby. Kolby was like her child. 29yearold carrie worked in her fathers flooring and carpet store. Carrie was a bit of a daddys girl . She was. Reporter is that fair . Yeah. Her dad seemed to do a lot of things for her . He did. If she needed something, he was there taking care of it. Reporter but carrie was trying to find her own way. She lived in her own house and dreamed of, one day, walking down the aisle. She wanted to be loved. She wanted a family. She wanted something stable in her life. Reporter the outgoing carrie had no trouble meeting guys, but hadnt found mr. Right. Carrie was such a sweetheart. She was always bubbly. Reporter Kelly Hornick is a nurse who moonlights as a bartender at a karaoke joint named jimmy os. Carrie was a regular. She was always well behaved. Always there just hanging out with her girlfriends, having a good time. I think they came here for karaoke. And thats a fun crowd. Reporter it was at jimmy os where carrie met tim mcvay. From the moment they laid eyes on each other, they were smitten. They were flirty with each other. You could tell that they were both interested. Its cute. Reporter tim studied theology at augustana college. He planned on becoming a minister, but felt he was just too young and inexperienced to live up to the responsibility. So he took a dramatic uturn and found a very different calling in bars and clubs as the karaoke king of the quad cities. He was very good at running karaoke. He was funny. He entertained the customers. He got out there and danced with em. He would sing songs. Hes a good guy. Reporter tim, a divorced father of two, was ten years older than carrie. But that didnt seem to matter. They were having fun. And carrie could imagine a future together. She saw everyone around her getting married and having children, myself included. And i know she wanted that. Reporter but tim wasnt interested in having more children and that was a deal breaker for carrie. So they decided to go their separate ways. Carrie soon started dating justin mueller, an iraq war vet, with a very different personality from the gregarious, funloving tim. He seemed very quiet. Pleasant. He was polite. He was nice. He seemed a little awkward. Reporter despite his quiet and awkward demeanor, justin looked like a good fit for carrie. He was closer in age, hard working, loyal. And he seemed to find a place in her heart. So, they moved in together. It was a big step. For carrie, it was the first time she had set up house with anyone. But right from the start, it wasnt the happily ever after kind of life carrie dreamed about. The iraq war left justin with a difficult case of post Traumatic Stress disorder. I felt like it wasnt a good match. All he wanted to do was stay home, where carrie was always wanting to go out and do things. Reporter did you sort of see that as, like, this is gonna be i can see this is gonna be a problem . I did. I saw, like, a clash. Reporter then, just three weeks after justin moved in, there was a problem and it was a big one. Carrie suddenly disappeared. It was a monday, december 13, 2013. The start of a work week. Carrie didnt show up at the store and didnt call in. Not like her at all. Something was wrong . Right. I called her, i could tell her phone was off. It was going straight to voicemail. And i thought about calling hospitals. I just was scared. Reporter not home. Not at work. Not in touch. Where was carrie . It was on innews and on facebook. A frustrating search for carrie. It is traumatic and overwhelming. Maybe signs of trouble. Stomping out. Carrie was upset. So how ya doing . Enough pressure in here for ya . Ugh. My sinuses are killing me. Yeah. Just wait til we hit ten thousand feet. Im gonna take Mucinex Sinusmax. Too late, were about to take off. These dissolve fast. Theyre new liquid gels. And youre coming with me. Wait, what . you realize i have gold status . Do i still get the miles . New Mucinex Sinusmax liquid gels. Dissolves fast to unleash max strength medicine. Start the relief. Ditch the misery. Lets end this. Recently weve noticed some ads created by these two birds, inviting you to stay away from the streak free shine of windex. 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Unlike ordinary diapers, pampers has three absorbent layers music throughout to stay up to three times drier. So your baby can sleep soundly all night. Wishing you love, sleep and play. Pampers grief can sneak in like a thief and steal your joy. Thats what seemed to happen when carrie olson disappeared. Grief gripped an entire community and didnt let go. Everybody knew about it. It was the talk of the town. Dennis harper is the founder of the quadcities missing persons network. Whenever there was anything newsworthy, it was posted. It was in the news. It was on facebook. Reporter carries best friend amanda was a big part of that. On new years day i did create a find carrie Olson Facebook page. And people were sharing it left and right. So her story was getting out. I even contacted dateline and they published her story. Reporter when we posted carries story as part of datelines online missing in america series, it reached 1. 9 million people, and was shared 42,000 times. Did you feel like that was something that could help . Just getting it out on a National Level . Think it helped out a lot. Reporter thousands started to follow amandas page. Carries story united the quad cities in a remarkable way. Everyone wanted to help and everyone was hoping for a break in the case. But they were also on edge. Did you just start to have worse and worse thoughts as you waited . I did. Reporter what are you told about whats going on with carrie . That she did not show up for work. The family was concerned. Reporter the family was so concerned they called the police. The case went to detectives rick voy and bill thomas of the Davenport Police department. They say carries livein boyfriend justin told them he had no idea where she was. Justin didnt have any answers. Reporter justin said he and carrie had a fight, she stormed out of the house and he hadnt seen her in two days. Carrie was upset. What did she say to him . Said somethin to him about bein stupid reporter carries ex, tim mcvay, was in las vegas on vacation when he was told she was missing. He and carrie were still Close Friends and said he wanted to help and had an idea. He talked to carries father dave about where to look. Tim told him, hey, she could be at my place. Go over and look. Theres a window open. You can crawl into the window and search the house. Dave went over there and searched. Yes. He did. Reporter did he see anything . Nope. Reporter no carrie at tims. No carrie anywhere. And one thing left behind at her house was a sure sign something was terribly wrong, her beloved dog kolby. Her everything was kolby. Just like a little kid. And if she did go somewhere kolby was either with her, or she would make arrangements for kolby. There was she would never just leave. Reporter kolby being at home without carrie led detectives voy and thomas to a grim possibility. As detectives, do you have to consider that someone might have taken their own life . In a missing persons investigation, thats always a possibility. Reporter amanda gave that theory some weight. She said there was a sadness behind carries bubbly personality. I started thinking that maybe she committed suicide somewhere. Did you think that carrie was capable of taking her own life . Well, she seemed depressed at times. Reporter still, detectives needed to know more. They executed two search warrants, the first at the house carrie shared with her boyfried justin. The search warrant that we prepared for carries house included everything that justin owned and justins vehicle. Reporter justins truck was checked and photographed. And a sweep was made of the house. It was tidy. Undisturbed. Didnt look like a crime scene. Another search was done at exboyfriend tim mcvays house. We wanted to get into his residence and see was she there, was she not there. Were there any clues that we needed to go on. Reporter detective tina noe executed the search on tims home. We took lots of photographs. cause you never know whats gonna be important possibly later on. Reporter tim was in the middle of a major renovation. The house was a mess. Random things were strewn everywhere; clothes, construction materials, rolls of carpeting. But nothing looked like a good lead. Carries family was growing increasingly desperate. They wanted to do something. Anything. When they reached out to Dennis Harker of the quad cities missing persons network. Sadly, he knew just what to do. Its traumatic. I mean, its just a crisis. And and its overwhelming. Reporter his own son went missing just a few months earlier. You find yourself being tireless. You know, you cant sleep anyway, you might as well be doing something. Reporter dennis offered suggestions and organization to find carrie and keep her story public. It was a remarkable effort. A reward was offered. A prayer vigil became a moment of peace, and faith. And, of course, there were endless searches. Dennis led one at the mississippi river, where his sons body had been found. The mississippi tends to collect a lot of people that go missing. Reporter amanda was with dennis for one of his river searches. Maybe she had drowned or been dumped in the river. So we started looking along the river. And i was lifting up everything and looking for her. I had to do something for her. Because she would have done it for me. Sarah paxton was searching, too. She remembers the frustration of trudging through a huge park covered with a fresh blanket of snow. Every search, i felt smaller and smaller. And the world felt bigger and bigger. She was one of my closest friends. I loved her dearly. It just felt like a needle in a haystack. Her friends and family would not stop looking or hoping. Dozens of tips came in from strangers, well wishers, even psychics. It would be something much closer to home that would finally lead to the first clue about what really happened. Coming up had you ever heard anything about justin stalking carrie . She told me he would drive by her house. New questions about carries new boyfriend. It sounded like maybe she was getting ready to end the reporter the people of the quad cities were desperately searching for carrie olson. And Law Enforcement on both sides of the mississippi were doing their best pushing the investigation as hard as they could. For detective tina noe, solving the case became a mission. Reporter finding someone quickly is very important. It is very important. And it was bothering me. Where is she . What couldve happened to her . We need to find answers. In murder investigations, eight out of ten suspects and victim know each other. Reporter and that meant taking a harder look at carries boyfriend, justin mueller. Detectives started by talking to carries family about him. We rely heavily on the information that families give us early on in an investigation. Reporter but carrie didnt share details of her love life with her family. They didnt even know justin had moved in with her. It turns out the person carrie did confide in was her exboyfriend, tim mcvay. To me, it appeared that they were best buds. They talked daily. Sometimes they would talk over 20 times a day via text. The main way of communicating was text messaging. Reporter tim drove straight to Police Headquarters when he flew back from las vegas, saying he wanted to help. I want to talk to you about carrie. Absolutely. You know, thats why youre down here, right . Anything you want to know. I dont know where she is. I dont know what shes doing. I very much want to know because i am concerned. Reporter it turned out tim also had a lot of concerns about justin, which he shared with the detectives. He said the problems started even before justin moved in to carries house. She called me out of the blue one afternoon freaking out because this guy justin that she had been dating was kind of stalking her. Reporter it was something best friend amanda also worried about when carrie went missing. Reporter who did you think would wanna hurt her . I immediately thought justin. Reporter had you ever heard anything about justin stalking carrie . She had told me that he would drive by her house before he ended up moving in. He wanted to be with her so bad. Reporter and then there was justins postTraumatic Stress disorder. Carrie had talked to her about it and she could relate. Amandas own military husband also struggled with ptsd. Reporter that could be a lot to handle, if youre not used to that and then you start dating a guy with ptsd. . It is a lot to handle. Reporter tim told police that carrie thought her relationship with justin had reached a tipping point. She goes yeah i cant do this anymore. I cant even keep pretending this is going to be okay. Reporter tim then speculated to police that the problems in the relationship had escalated into that saturday morning fight. Her and justin got in a fight. She didnt really want to go back and get into more. She wanted him to learn a lesson. Reporter and how did tim know about that fight . Carrie had gone to his house after running out on justin in a huff and told him all about it. It sounds like she was getting ready to maybe end the relationship with justin. Reporter tim went on to tell police that he dropped carrie back home the next morning. I watched her go into the garage. Reporter he then borrowed her car and headed to the airport for his trip to las vegas. But when detectives spoke to justin, he said after carrie stormed out, she never came back home, and he hadnt seen her since. And that made a tip called in to police all the more intriguing. Reporter you all get a tip that theres a man looking for carrie in the milan area. Yes. Reporter that deserved a close look because two days after she disappeared, her phone which hadnt been connecting to her cell network suddenly started pinging in the nearby town of milan. The man with the tip said the searcher was carries boyfriend. Reporter did you think it was tim at first . Or did you think it was justin . Justin. Reporter but justin had another story to tell. He said he wasnt in milan and insisted the fight with carrie was no big deal. That it was about something trivial. Over some burnt eggs. Reporter and she had left that day, slammed the door and called him stupid . Yes. Reporter justin insisted he never saw carrie again after that fight. And the morning tim said he dropped her at home and watched her go into the house. Justin said that never happened. When one guy tells us, i dropped her off here at 6 30 in the morning, and the other guy says, she never came in the door. We know theres a problem. Reporter a boyfriend who had a blowout with carrie, and an ex who gave her a shoulder to cry one. One of them was lying but which one . Coming up, a caught on camera stunner. Who is that using carries bank card . He is seen on video trying to get 400 out. And a song turns sinister. The karaoke moment no one could believe. It was sickening. Man sternly where do you think youre going . Mr. Mucus to work, with you. Its taco tuesday. Man youre not coming. I took mucinex to help get rid of my mucusy congestion. Im good all day. [announcer ] mucinex keeps working. Not 4, not 6, but 12 hours. Lets end this Different Things his new smart phone does. It reminded him of his magic eraser. Its not just for marks on walls. Its tough on kitchen grease. And bathroom grime too. Hes your. All aroundtoughcleaner, mr. Clean. cell phone rings where are you . Well the squirrels are back in the attic. Mom . Your dad wont call an exterminator. Can i call you back, mom . He says its personal this time. 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Detectives were trying to figure out which one, when they came across a significant clue. A trace on carries debit card led them to a gas station, where they looked at Security Camera video. It was chilling. There was carries car. Her debit card was being used but there was no carrie. Instead, the person using the card was tim mcvay. Hes seen on video at the pump, trying to enter a number several times, you could tell, its unsuccessful. Reporter tim also tried the card at a drivethru atm at the Mississippi Valley credit union. But he had problems. Thats carries bank. He is seen on video there three separate times, trying to get 400 out. Reporter the pin is not working . The pin is not working. Reporter why was tim driving carries car and using her debit card . Tim told detective voy there was a simple explanation. Even after they broke up, he and carrie always had each others backs. Weve been really Close Friends. She is the kind of friend if she called me i would drop whatever i was doing to go help her out. Shirt off my back kind of thing. Reporter tim said thats why he had taken care of carrie when she came to his house after storming out on justin. And it also wasnt unusual that she lent him her car and debit card, he said. She gave me her debit card she said go to the mississippi atm and get out 400 then go and top off the gas tank, whatever it takes to fill it up. Reporter tim said carrie had also promised to drive him to the airport in minnesota that sunday. But then she changed her mind at the last minute. She says just take my car and drive yourself up there drop me off at home. According to tim, he and carrie get into the car and he takes carrie back to her residence. Reporter and when they pulled up to the house, tim said carrie told him she didnt care how justin might react to her doing him a favor. She was saying i am going to walk in the door. And say i let tim borrow my car to get himself up to the airport. You need to shape up, ship out. Reporter detective voy questioned tims version of events, saying Security Camera video from the Genesis Health clinic next to carries house did not show him dropping her off at home. Explain to me then the video cameras on the side of the genesis where you dropped her off, it does not show you there. It has to show that the car was there. Reporter tim didnt realize it but detective voy was testing him. There was actually no video camera at the clinic. Tim stuck to his story insisting he dropped off carrie. Youre not in the video, and justin said, she never came in that house. Hes home. I dont know. She didnt walk into the garage and then walk away. Im thinking justins probably not being very truthful with you. Reporter it was clear one of them wasnt telling the truth and it was time to find out which one. Reporter did you ask tim to take a polygraph . Did. Reporter did you give justin a polygraph . Did. Reporter but when justin and tim took those lie detector tests, they both passed. And then they both went back to their lives. Still, detectives kept an eye on them, hoping one might slip. Reporter one night later that winter, tim mcvay, the karaoke king of the quad cities, was back singing in front of a crowd. He sang, i used to love her, by guns n roses. I used to love her yeah but i had to kill her reporter a woman at the bar, who was aware of the case, knew mcvay was a suspect. Shocked by his performance, she said she shot this video to document it then gave it to detective noe. He says, i used to love her, but i had to kill her. And i put her six feet under. Tim knew what he was doing. And to get up there and sing that song . It was sickening. Reporter but that song was played frequently at the bar, and detective noe knew that tims performance didnt prove anything. So with no physical evidence connecting tim to carries disappearance, there was nothing she could do. The investigation had hit a wall. It was a mystery. We felt something just wasnt right. Something was going on and we needed to figure this out. Fast. Reporter carrie was still missing winter was settling in and it would be a long one. Coming up, this brand new clue. This tattoo. I emailed amanda. It was a definite match. Police are poised for a major break in the case. A huge piece to our puzzle. When dateline continues. Parking is hard to find. Seems like everyone drives. And those who do should switch to geico because you could save hundreds on Car Insurance. Ah, perfect. Valet parking. Evening, sir. Hello heres the keys. And, uh, go easy on my ride, mate. Hm, wouldnt mind some of that beef wellington. To see how much you could save on Car Insurance, go to geico. Com. Ah car alarm sounds its ok to understand how much motionacthey move,. Band and created degree with motionsense. 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I emailed amanda, and i said, i hate to say it, but thats her tattoo, isnt it . I had one picture of her tattoo. And i sat and compared it to the drawing on that news report. Reporter what is that moment like, when you look at the photograph of your friend and the photograph of the tattoo in the news report . I was completely empty. I called my mom and dad and i said, theres a definite match for carrie in hastings, minnesota. This is where carrie olsons body was found on saturday night. We had mixed emotions, obviously. We wanted to find her but then finding out, you know, what had happened it was rough. It was a rough time for the whole community. I just sat there. I cried. I lost a confidante. I lost someone i could laugh with. I lost i lost a very good friend. Reporter the funeral was at st. Pauls church in davenport. She got to come back home again. Reporter it was a day to lay carrie to rest and remember a beautiful life. But there were still so many unanswered questions. Now we need to find out why. We need to find out what happened. Reporter first step, an autopsy. But it couldnt answer the key question for detectives. The doctor that did the autopsy called it homicide by unspecified means. Reporter no cause of death . No cause of death. Reporter are you thinking, come on. Theres got to be a cause of death . Its rare. But we had seen the photos of the scene, and you can tell that she didnt walk up there and just fall over dead, that her body was placed there. Reporter but the autopsy did offer a possible clue. The doctor had found a chunk of carpet in her hair. We remembered from januarys search warrant that tim had beige carpet rolls in his house. Reporter but they also knew that carrie worked in a store that sold carpeting, so it might not mean anything. Still, the carpet in carries hair and the carpet in tim mcvays house were sent to the lab for analysis. How long did it take you to get your answer . It takes a while. It doesnt come back after the commercial break like on tv. Reporter while detectives waited for results, they explored the most tantalizing clue they had received, and it didnt come from carries body. It came from where she was found hastings, minnesota. We knew thats where tim parked his car before he went to the airport. Reporter when tim mcvay flew from minneapolis to las vegas the same weekend carrie disappeared, it turns out he left carries car in hastings. Why . Thats where his girlfriend at the time lived. Pretty big coincidence. Yeah. Thats what we call a clue. Reporter but detectives needed more. They had to tie mcvay to the very spot where carries body was found. They did have one longshot clue. Just a few feet from carries body, investigators discovered this 4 price tag. A Google Search showed the tag was for a kids shovel sold at the Discount Chain big lots. Detective thomas found a Big Lots Store in lacrosse, wisconsin, where that kind of shovel was bought on the same day mcvay drove to minnesota. Lacrosse is about twothirds of the way between the quad cities and hastings. But the stores Security Cameras were broken no video. So how could detectives tie mcvay to this purchase . They decided to work backwards. Inside a Tobacco Outlet, he is seen on video. Reporter mcvay had told police that before driving to minnesota and the airport that sunday, he stopped to buy a cigar at this Tobacco Outlet in the quad cities. So, you knew exactly what time tim had been here exactly. Reporter and where he was going . Correct. Reporter the big lots in lacrosse is a three and a half hour drive up highway 61 from the Tobacco Outlet. And it turns out, the shovel was purchased exactly three and a half hours after mcvay bought that cigar. That was huge for us. You leave the Tobacco Outlet, which is the exact amount of time to get to la crosse, wisconsin. Reporter but detectives still needed something more concrete to connect mcvay to the purchase of the shovel. So then we asked for the actual sales receipt. Reporter on the receipt was not only the shovel but a black bag. A black bag. Reporter a desage brand travel bag. It cost only 10, but it was the big payoff police had been looking for. We found it in the garage at tims parents house. That was a huge piece to our puzzle. Reporter so on july 18th, 2014, three and a half months after carries body was found and 7 months after she went missing, tina noe and the other two detectives went to a construction site where mcvay was working. Tim was up on a ladder. And i said, we have a warrant for firstdegree murder for you and concealing a homicide. Reporter tina also brought along her signature accessory pink handcuffs. Reporter you chose to cuff him with your hot pink cuffs . Yes. Reporter how did it feel seeing him in pink handcuffs . Good. Reporter was it an extra little jab . Yes. Yeah, for tina. That was a good moment for us. Mcvay, come on up. Reporter tim mcvay pleaded not guilty. He was denied bail and put in the county jail. Thats where dateline found him for his First Television interview. I did not kill carrie. And i did not dump her body. Reporter tim said the wrong guy was behind bars, pointing to the fight carrie told him that she and justin had that saturday morning. Reporter did she say what the fight was over . Romantic issues. I guess thatd be the best way to put it. Reporter of a sexual nature . That was my impression, yes. Reporter and then what happened after that . There was some throwing. A couple of things had gotten broken. There was a little bit of a physical altercation between the two of them. Reporter tim said the last time he saw carrie was when he drove her back to her house, just before he went to the airport. She was walking into the garage at her house alive, happy, as well as could be. Reporter tim said he still loved carrie, even though theyd broken up. But how could he explain the seemingly damning lyric i used to love her but i had to kill her that he sang at the karaoke bar while she was still missing . Maybe not the best choice of song given oh, i agree with that. Actually, i i told reporter what was going on i told my brotherinlaw he was with me that night. I said, why didnt you slap me when i put that song in . Thats kind of a bonehead move. Just but it had nothing to do with carrie. It was nothing to do with anything. It was just a song. Reporter but to prosecutors, it was more than a song. It was a look inside the mind of a killer. And they were determined to prove that in court. Tim mcvay was about to stand trial for murder. A show down in court. One boyfriend accused and another on the stand. She stormed out of the door. I thought maybe i upset her. What really happened to what really happened to we need to be ready for whatever weather may come our way. 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As the trial began mcgehee presented the prosecutions theory as to how tim did it. Even though there was no official explanation for how carrie died, the state presented something called burking a method of suffocation designed to leave no marks by sitting on someones chest and covering their nose and mouth. To support that scenario, the state called one of mcvays exgirlfriends, cati smiddy. Are you a little bit nervous today . Yes, i am. Why are you nervous . Im scared of him. Reporter cati described an incident one night in 2013. She said she was startled awake by mcvay sitting on her chest. I couldnt breathe, he had cut off my air, i couldnt he was, hes a big man and im not a very large woman i couldnt, i couldnt inhale. You moved out after that . Yes. Reporter the evidence in prosecutor mcgehees case was largely circumstantial, but he still felt it was strong. He believed mcvay was the last one to talk to carrie. He had her car, used her debit card, and her body was found just minutes from where he parked her car at his girlfriends house. And the prosecution had the test results for the carpet fibers found in carries hair. They matched that rolledup carpet in mcvays house. How does a piece of carpet get lodged in someones hair and remain in her hair . Her head mustve been on tim mcvays floor at the time of her death. Reporter the prosecutors also used mcvays internet searches to show how he was constantly checking the website of the newspaper in the distant town where carries body was found. He knew that he had concealed her body in hastings. So he started accessing the hastings stargazette in january, wanting to know the headlines when her body would be discovered. He accessed that website 100 times. That is an action of a guilty man. What were you looking for . You dont live in hastings. Its kind of a long ways away. A newspapers a newspaper. But im not going to answer any questions about that. Reporter and why not . All i can say is a newspapers a newspaper. I dont have any other comments about that. Just interested in hastings . Move on to your next question. Reporter finally, prosecutors called to the stand carries boyfriend justin mueller. He testified about the last time he saw carrie. Did you say goodbye . I didnt really have a chance to say goodbye. The way she left. I tried to say goodbye, yes. Reporter justin acknowledged that she was upset with him. The way she stormed out of the door, and i thought maybe i upset her in maybe some minor way or, cause i wasnt paying attention to her somehow. Reporter as the hours of carries unexplained absence and silence grew, so did justins concern and his texts. Prosecutors had him read them in court baby, come home. I love you. Im sorry for whatever i did. I love you. Kolby and i miss you. Is everything okay . I gave kolby his pill. Did you get a response . No. Now its sunday night at 8 10. Were you starting to get worried then . Yes. Reporter although there was no evidence presented about mcvays motive for murder, in closing arguments the prosecutors offered their theory he killed carrie in a twisted fit of rage, because he demanded her car to get to the airport and shed said no. We see it all the time that people are murdered for sometimes the smallest little things. And youre just surprised that another human being can do this to another human being. But thats what happened. Reporter mcvays attorneys aaron dyer, dan dalton and john ruud argued that the prosecutions theory of motive was preposterous. The idea that he could kill her and take her car to just get a ride to minnesota, i think is laughable. They didnt have a cause of death, so how do you point the finger at somebody . Reporter the defense didnt produce any witnesses of their own. Instead, they aggressively challenged the states witnesses, like that former girlfriend. The defense tried to show mcvay was more playful than violent. You said when i finally did get him off me, he said he was just playing around, but you didnt find it funny . Yes. He wasnt striking you, right . No, he wasnt striking me, hes never struck me. Reporter Defense Attorneys also attacked detective bill thomas, who traced that kids shovel to a Big Lots Store in wisconsin. You have no videos of that transaction, right . No. You have no receipts with tims name on any of them for that date, right . No, its paid by cash. Reporter the defense confronted justin mueller. Police had said he was spotted in the town where carries phone last pinged, but he wouldnt admit it. You remember being in the milan area at all during that week . No. His phone records put his phone, at the very least, in milan. Another person indicated to the police that he was seen in milan. Reporter what do you make of that . I think its a huge hole in the prosecutions case. Reporter the defense also challenged the states evidence like the carpet fibers found in carries hair that investigators said matched the carpeting in mcvays house. She worked in a carpet store. So just because it happened to be in her hair certainly doesnt indicate anyone intentionally killed anybody. Reporter they even challenged the idea that a crime had been committed at all. How did she get there . We dont know. How did she die . We dont know. Its one of the biggest mysteries that not even sherlock holmes, i dont think, could solve. Reporter tim mcvay declined to take the stand in his own defense, but he maintains that hes a family man who loves his kids, not the violent thug described in court. Im just not that kind of person. I couldnt inhale. You were accused by cati smiddy though of well, that was a lie. Reporter getting violent. That was a lie. Reporter did you kill carrie . I did not. Reporter theres a lot of coincidences there are. Reporter going on. Terrible there are. Reporter coincidences for you. I agree, yeah. Reporter what do you say to those people watching who just maybe dont believe you right now . All i can say is what i know. I know that i did not kill carrie. She was a beautiful person, a wonderful friend, a lover, a confidante. She was she meant the world to me. Its been the end of a long trial. Reporter after more than two weeks of testimony and argument, judge meersman was ready to give his verdict. Timothy mcvay, im finding you guilty of count one murder, count two concealment of a homicidal death. I jumped out of my seat. I was so excited and happy. Reporter tim mcvay was stoic, showing no emotion. And three months later, he was just as stoic when the judge sentenced him to 45 years in prison. I believe you killed her. And the saddest part is, you killed her for a car and some money. Reporter for justin mueller, the cloud of suspicion finally lifted. For carries family and friends, the verdict meant justice and bittersweet relief. I just bowed my head and started crying. And it felt just like this huge weight was gone. Reporter but justice for carrie still couldnt explain the why. If it was over a ride to minnesota, a car, and money, its not a very good why. Reporter what will you miss most about carrie . What i ultimately miss is shes not there, pulling in that driveway, honking, you know, announcing that shes here. She had a heart of gold. She was there for everybody. She had a lot of hope for her future. She had everything to live for. Thats all for this edition im lester holt. Thanks for joining us. Loathing on the campaign trail. The republican establishment takes a deep breath and decides to stand with trump. I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters. Its incredible. While insurgents start to back ted cruz. The washington establishment knows whos willing to keep the gravy train going. Donald trump joins me this morning. Plus, now its the democrats turn to worry and sanders surges. We are doing far, far, far better than Hillary Clinton against donald trump and the other republican candidates. Their establishment frets over nominating a socialist and wonder what is wrong with Hillary Clinton. Im not interested in ideas that sound good on paper but will never make in the the real world. Both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are with this morning. And if you thought this campaign could not get any more unpredictable, look whos considering jumping in, former new york city mayor Michael Bloomberg. Joining us are nbcs kristen welker, also from nbc kasie hunt and david brooks of the New York Times. Trump versus cruz, clinton versus sanders, eight days to iowa. Welcome to sunday, its meet the press. Weve dug out so good sunday morning and welcome to the Blizzard Edition of meet the press. With one week to go to iowa, both parties are in a bit of a panic mode. The republicans are fractured. With the establishment thinking the unthinkable. The best way to stop ted cruz might be to back donald trump. Mr. Trump will join me on that issue. But well start with the democrats where a more traditional split has developed, think carter kennedy, gore bradlee, even clinton obama. If the clinton folks think theyve seen this all before, perhaps they have, in 2008, again, clintons big lead in iowa and a big lead in New Hampshire seem to have vanished. Again, clintons big lead in iowa and New Hampshire seem to have vanished. Again she appears to face an Enthusiasm Gap and again the hand wringing among her supporters has begun over whats going wrong. If that werent enough, the New York Times is reporting Michael Bloomberg is considering a run at the white house in part because of clintons troubles. This morning, there is good news for clinton. She won the endorsement of the Des Moines Register, as did marco rubio on the republican side but one would argue the Des Moines Register would probably is a greater impact among democratic caucusgoers. Joining me from iowa is Hillary Clinton. Madam secretary, welcome back. Thank you, chuck. Its good to talk with you this morning. You got it

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