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Right . What if the husband didnt . You dont find any dna fingerprints, blood, anything that hes in the house. Could someone else be the real killer . Im wondering what was this man capable of . So much tragedy and so much heartbreak. It was very emotional for me. We just kept waiting for them to figure out they had it wrong2 estaban equivocados misterio en sun going down, air cooling down to a fine evening warm. Here at the towns historic rodeo grounds, refugees from the summer heat in phoenix, 2 hours and 25 degrees away settled into the stands to enjoy the annual exploits of the cowboys. At the very same time, a few miles away on the edge of town, a woman named Carol Kennedy jogged along a well worn path at the base of granite mountain. Sometime after 7, she turned in at her big back yard here on a street called bridle path. Trotted past the stone labyrinth shed laid out here years earlier to mark the turn of the millennium, and arrived at the back door of the house she intended to inhabit for the rest of her natural days. But of course, Carol Kennedy had no idea that this was going to be her last day. And, no, it would not be natural at all. That is the biggest loss of my life to this day. Its profound. Its piercing. Its constant. Reporter Carol Kennedy was in, as they say, a good place in her life. This is her friend Katherine Morris. Carol was the epitome of kindness and living a life from a perspective of having an open heart and being loving. Reporter before she became a close friend, Katherine Morris was carols student at prescott carols friend. She was very wellrespected and admired, her classes were always full, very difficult to get into. What was she like . She was magnetic. And she was always sort of searching for the truth. And you just were gravitated to her. Charisma that kinda pulled her students in, especially maybe you. Uhhuh, uhhuh. She was soft and inviting. Im Carol Kennedy. I live in prescott, arizona. Reporter you get a sense of her personality in this 2006 interview, in which she was asked about her passion for teaching. Its such a gift to feel like you get to give seeds to this first row here and then they turn around and give it to rows behind them. Reporter and in fact she shared those passions with the man who was her husband for 25 years. Love of her life, really, Steve Democker. They were crazy for each other. Reporter sharon democker is steves sister. Carol was really easy to love. She was kind of a natural fit in the family. She was just immediately a sister to all of us. Reporter all of us being the democker family. High achievers, all of them. Sharon is a doctor. Its an accomplished bunch. One of my friends said, theres not a weak link in this group. Reporter carol and steve got married in his parents backyard overlooking lake ontario, near rochester, new york. An outdoor wedding for a couple who loved adventure. Steve was the one that kind of w started the adventuring side of things. So first there was hiking, and then skiing, and mountain climbing, and kayaking. Reporter they moved around a bit, as people do, and wound up eventually prescott. Which proved to be the Perfect Place to raise their two bright, attractive, daughters, katie and charlotte. Theyre amazing. I think that its really a testimony to the kinda parents that steve and carol were. The girls were their first the girls were their first priority. Steve became the dean of prescott college. Carol taught psychology there. But life is a river, never the same for long. Steve decided to change careers. Left the academic life, became a financial advisor, very successful too, and there were other changes, more difficult ones. Nobody knows all of what goes on inside a marriage, but i did talk with both of them about it and they both struggled because their lives were moving in different directions. And much as they still cared for each other, there was infidelity. Steve had an affair and they decided to separate. Carol loved steve fiercely. She fought hard for her marriage until the end. But in 2008 after more than 25 years of marriage, five living apart, steve and carol divorced. It was a long painful process and after it was final, carol went to a nearby lake where she called catherine. She was sobbing, and at first when she called me i was like oh, oh, no. And then i realized that the that the sobbing and the wailing on the phone was it was a mixture of things. Yeah, absolutely. Time for a fresh start. Carol had left teaching by that time, was focused on a new passion, painting. Her art was developing. She was really doing well with that and taking off with that. Of course she remained close to her daughters, but she also stayed close to steve and in fact, just a few days before that july morning the whole family went to the airport together to see katy off on a study abroad trip to south africa. Charlotte was staying with her dad in prescott. Nothing ahead now but the long, easy days of summer. As she jogged the last few yards to her house, carol passed by the guest cottage shed rented out to help pay her expenses. Its 50 feet away from the main house and it has the kitchen, a bath and shower and rooms. It was comforting in a way to have someone else with her on the property out here at the edge of things. And his name was jim nash, a bit of an odd duck, some people said but easy to get along with. At least after carol told her friends the man didnt cause any trouble. He was a free spirit, a surfer dude from hawaii who hang ten. But she took him in as a boarder . It was my understanding that he was had been diagnosed with cancer and i think they sort of cosupported each other through a lot of the painful times that they were both experiencing. Once inside her house carol put together a salad for dinner. Answered a few emails, settled in for an evening alone. She picked up the phone and called her mother ruth who lived way off in nashville, tennessee. She was an amazing daughter who still called her mom every day. Roouts was 83. The call a nightly ritual and then at 8 00 p. M. , the oddest thing. The line went dead but not before ruth heard something rather terrifying. Ruth tried to call back, nothing. There she was so far away and now worried. So she decided to call the Sheriffs Department whose headquarters is here in downtown prescott. Sheriffs office, how can i help you . Im calling if nashville, tennessee. I was on the phone with my daughter and she screamed and said oh, no, and the phones gone dead and is there anything you can do . Can you go check . Oh, no. Those two words played back again and again. And so began a mystery and the story too unbelievable even for some of its most intimate participants. What happened to Carol Kennedy . That question would take years to answer. Not just what happened to carol, but who was behind it. She didnt have any idea. No enemies . No, none. We were just stunned. We were just stunned. And if we announce your team on nbcs sunday night football, youre automatically a winner. You could even win 500,000. Its time to play game time gold. Whos your team . Working on my feet all day gave min my knees. But now, i step on this machine and get my number which matches my dr. Scholls custom fit orthotic inserts. Now i get immediate relief from my foot pain. My knee pain. Find a machine at drscholls. Com heres something to shout from the mountaintop. Crickets plans start at 35 a month, after 5 auto pay credit. With more 4g lte coverage nationwide than tmobile or sprint. Cricket wireless. 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This is the time the time for harmony let love be the song that everybody sings fill the air with joyful noise ring the bells and raise your voice let there be peace on earth let there be peace on earth reporter Carol Kennedy and her mother, ruth, were having their nightly phone call. Suddenly the phone line went dead. Ruth tried back, couldnt reach carol. Then she called the Sheriffs Department. Shes out there and she screamed and said, oh no, and then the phone was dropped, and im just at my wits end. Now, did you call her or did she call you when this occurred . She called me tonight and calls me every night. Im 83, and she worries about me, and so we were just having our conversation, and then all the sudden she just screamed and said, oh no, and then i have not been able to get her to answer the phone back. Im afraid something bad happened. Okay, ruth, who does your daughter live with . Shes recently divorced, shes alone. Whats your daughters name . Carol kennedy. Reporter notice what she said . Recently divorced. The operator heard it. Do you believe shes concerned if her husband or exhusband came back . Oh, i dont think so. No, i dont think its that kind of a thing. Okay. They knew they cared deeply for each other and the two daughters. The connection of the two of them interested me. They took time to nurture their relationship and to spend time together. And do things they continued to do bringing up katie and charlotte. Carol wasnt answering our her phone and ruth was frantic. All right, well send them out to check on her and have them give you a call. Reporter you can imagine what that was like for ruth so far away waiting for a phone call. She knew carol had a border, jim, but steve would know what to do. She called him on the cell phone, and when he didnt pick up, she left him this message. Hey, this is ruth kennedy, in nashville. I was on the phone with carol and screamed and said oh no, and i cant get her to answer me back. I wanted to see if you could see what you could find out and let me know something. By that time it was dark. Steve and carls daughter charlotte and her then boyfriend were, at that moment, at steves house waiting for him to come home. Jacob was actually living there trying to sort out a few issues with his parents. Reporter what was your relationship like with him, and what was charlottes relationship like . Charlotte was very close with steve. Hed offered me to stay with him before, you know, try to figure something out, just to make my situation with my parents better, and i had a lot of respect for him. I looked up to him. That evening, steve, an avid outdoors man was overdue from a Mountain Bike ride. And it was getting late, really late, actually. It was very, very odd. And he would usually wed usually have dinner pretty late there. It was, you know, normal to have dinner at 9 oclock, 9 30. When he hadnt come home around that time, it was when we kind of started to get a little worried. That may be he had crashed or gotten hurt or something. What did you do . Charlotte called his cell phone and no answer. No answer. Did it go straight to voicemail or something . Yeah. Reporter anyway, hungry for dinner, they went to the store for groceries. While we were at the store, it was probably around 10 00, 10 15 was when we got a call from steve. And he told us that, he got a flat tire and he was at the workout center, he was going to finish up his workout there. And what his phone had been off or something or what happened to his phone . He said his phone had died. While he was out there having a flat tire . Correct. Reporter steve was in the shower when charlotte and jake arrived back at the condo. They made a quick dinner, vegetable stirfry. It was late, but then again, it was a mild summer night. Not a care in the world, it seemed. 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Everything seemed fine, then. But now . She called her mother. Voicemail. Hey mom. Its char. I heard from grandmother that something happened while you guys were on the phone and she was kind of worried about you. So, i wanted to text you to see if everything was okay. Now im kind of getting worried about you. So if you want to text me back or call me or something just let me know that youre okay and that everythings okay. Reporter the beginnings of panic bubbled up in charlottes brain. She and her boyfriend called around to local hospitals. But nobody named Carol Kennedy had been admitted to any of them. So this is night time, was there any thought of going over there . Yeah. We talked about it. Reporter steve was concerned about carol, of course. But, as her now exhusband, he had another concern too. Steve had expressed that he wasnt really comfortable with it because, you know, they had just finalized their divorce and, you know, he didnt feel comfortable invading her privacy if she was with, you know, another guy on a date or Something Like that, so. Mmhm. We had decided that charlotte and i would go out there and check on her. Just kind of see, you know, if anything was out of the ordinary. Reporter it was around midnight when they drove out to carols place on bridle path. Having promised to call steve the minute they got there. Do you remember what it was like driving over there . It was very quiet. I dont really think we spoke very much at all on the way there. Because . Just nervous, you know. Little anxious . Right. Do you remember pulling up to the house . Yes. Very vividly. Reporter at that moment charlotte was on the phone with her dad. As soon as we got to the top of the hill you could see, the police, you know, the sheriffs lights and all the cars and, you know, just the worst thoughts are kind of going through, you know, my mind at that point. You know, the almost kind of thing that hits you here before it hits you here. Right. Yeah. Kind of feel it in your stomach first, for sure. And we got closer to the house and we saw a caution tape and all of, you know, people running around and everything. We had pulled up and stopped on the side of the road and two sheriffs walked up on either side of the car and we rolled the windows down. Did this person know who you were . I think he had asked, you know, were you guys just passing through . And charlotte said, no this is my moms house. And so, im sorry to tell you but, you know, carol passed away. At that point she just immediately broke down, started crying pretty hard. Reporter charlotte dropped the phone. Fell to pieces. Were you frightened . Scared a little bit. Really more so for charlotte, just you know not really, i mean, even now i dont think i could i could figure it out how to console someone in that situation. Reporter maybe steve would know what to do. I picked up the cell phone and told steve what had happened. He needed to come down and be with charlotte. And steve . He was taken aback. You know, it was almost kind of disbelief, like he didnt really know what to say really. Kind of hear him choking back, some tears a little bit. And that was, you know, was hard. Reporter right away steve rushed over to carols house. A detective had a recorder rolling. You can hear charlotte sobbing. And steve talking. The last time i was out here was i dont know. Im sorry. I dont know. Its been a while. Reporter someone else talked to the detectives, too. A man who showed up just minutes after the deputies got there. Jim knapp, carols boarder. The man who had been living in the guest house. I cant remember the month i moved in. 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Its a quaint Little Community nestled in the pines and not a whole lot of crime, especially from what i was used to. Reporter sechez put in 27 years in the phoenix police. This job with the Yavapai County Attorneys Office was supposed to be an escape from big city crime. And here he was, middle of a july night, looking at one very brutal homicide. What did it look like . It was certainly a gruesome scene. Not only a large of amount of blood on carols body but also on the furniture that was nearby, blood spatter that had been cast off in on to the walls and other items as well. So that tells you something about how she died . She certainly died a violence death. Reporter Something Else. As he surveyed the room he could plainly see, whoever did this was trying to fool them. How did he know . When he looked past the obvious gore, he couldnt help but notice things had been moved around after carol was dead. There was a ladder that was placed over top of her body that along with some of the blood that had been splattered on to a bookshelf. And then the shelf was knocked over, obviously, several minutes after. Sure. The blood hit it. Unlikely that it was just tottering and, eventually, collapsed . That could not have happened. So thats a pretty significant little detail, then . Yes, absolutely. Reporter staging. Clear as day, said the detective. There were even some drops of blood just outside the door. The blood trail led detectives to another discovery. Shoe prints outside the house. There was a lot of tracks out there. Reporter the house was next door to ranchland. Lots of people went running and riding there. Carol, too. Horses, animals, people use that area and there were a lot of tracks. These tracks were unique. They were fresh. Reporter they found carols footprints from her jog that very evening. But there were others. Her track as it went out, the suspects track then stepped right on one of hers, so she went out and then this suspect came into her house. You had sequences of tracks. Yes. Reporter about 50 feet from the main house, youll remember, was a guest cottage. Which carol had rented out to that tenant, jim knapp. Jim knapp was one of the first ones to arrive at the scene after the deputies had arrived. Reporter so, of course, the detectives asked him. Where was he that night . And knapp was ready with a story. He had been babysitting, one of his boys at his exwifes house when this incident actually occurred. Youd have to pin him down on that, make sure he had proof of it, right . Thats correct. Reporter another detective turned on his recorder, as knapp rambled on about his relationship with carol. She and i are, sort of, commited to one another to be cocoaches to coach each other through both our divorces. Reporter but knapp didnt stop there. Oh no. He seemed very eager to tell them about carols exhusband, Steve Democker. Ill warn you guys. Its just my intuitive take. The guy comes off to me as a very sneaky, manipulative man. Reporter so by the time steve arrived detectives were already suspicious. And they asked him to come to the Sheriffs Department. Where he told them the same thing hed told his daughter. He was riding his Mountain Bike when he got a flat tire. I dont really Mountain Bike very often. Okay. I mean, im starting to. I do some on and off. Mostly i go trail running. So i dont have a routine. Reporter he drew them a map of the trail he followed. Love lane goes up and out and theres the trail. Reporter at one point, the trail got to within a mile of carols house. The detectives ears perked up. But steve insisted he never went to carols house. I am happy to give you blood and saliva. I am happy to give you everything you need. Right. So theres nothing we can find thats going to tie you there at all. No. I wasnt there. I wouldnt do that. Reporter steve told the detective he was tired. Dehydrated. We can fix that. If you need more water, ill be glad to get you water, if you need some food, ill give you food. Well get you something. You can tell me what you want. Im just asking if youre going to be patient with us and help us through this matter. Yeah. Of course, i want to do that. Im going to be happy to give you dna. I wasnt there. So i assume that itll be good for me. That is true. If it is like you say, then once we do my work and im just im cold and im tired and reporter steve asked what were they thinking about him. Was he a suspect . I dont know what looking suspicious looks like and i dont mean to ask, just im tired. No. And like heres the whole thing with it. Theres certain things in whats going on and just like i said weve got a suspicious death and right now we dont have any and youre suspecting me. Other person. Well, we have no other person right now. Reporter and so it was a long night in that little room. The detective gave steve a blanket. Asked again about that trail. The proximity of where the trail is i know. Where youre riding. I wish id chosen a different trail. I wish you had chosen a different trail also. Because, heres the thing well, of course if i had done it, i probably wouldnt have chosen to be right near the scene of what sounds like maybe a crime. Reporter maybe so. But wherever he was, he picked up something the detectives simply couldnt ignore. Very fresh multiple scratches. Reporter on his arms and legs. Steve said he got those riding a Rough Mountain trail on his bike. Detectives photographed them, before letting him go home. Meanwhile, overnight, other detectives searched steves office, his home, his garage. They took pictures. Lots of pictures. After the autopsy, next afternoon, the medical examiner reported that carol died from blows to the head. Administered by some blunt object. 7 times, her killer hit her. With what . The medical examiner offered an opinion. It looked like it might have been a golf club. And one more thing. Carol herself might already be telling them who killed her. Its one of those moments that you go, oh my goodness. Reporter the clue that Police Almost missed. Will it help them crack the case . Or this. Or that. Talk to farmers and see what gaps could be hiding in your coverage. My heaven we are farmers bum pa dum. Bum bum bum bum switch to cricket wireless. And choose from four smartphones, now free, after mailin rebate cricket visa promotion card. From the merrier carrier. Cricket wireless. Something to smile about. No tellin how much im gellin. You gellin . You gellin . Im like magellan, im so gellin. Quit yellin were gellin. Riigghhttt. Dr. Scholls massaging gel insoles are so soft they make any shoe feel outrageously comfortable. Are you gellin . Dr. Scholls. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet not yet. Pull the peach milk, fruit, cultures. Mmmm, yoplait. Reporter there is, as Katherine Morris can tell you, no good way to find out your close friend has been murdered. Especially a friend as incandescent as Carol Kennedy. It is the biggest loss of my life to this day. Its profound. Its piercing. Its constant. She didnt have any enemies. None. None. Reporter katherine, who by this time lived in atlanta, flew across the country to prescott. I needed to see it. I needed to be in her home where she last was. Reporter she joined other members of carols family at bridle path. In the very room where carol died. Blood still spattered on the furniture. The mess of what happened everywhere in that room. You just you cant imagine. Painful. Did it help . It helped greatly to put it into perspective of the absolute horrendous brutality, animalistic, violent. Evidence of that was still in the room . Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Reporter steve was there, too, said katherine. And she remembers him saying something that, to her, didnt make much sense. He put his arm around me and said, youd just wanna think it was an accident, dont you . Then i looked at him and i said, that this this is not an accident. What im looking at is not an accident. Reporter by then, so soon after the murder, steve was the only real suspect under investigation. And in the following weeks, as friends and family mourned, detectives peeled back the layers of steve and carols relationship. And soon found evidence that their recent divorce was, well, no divorce is pleasant, but we looked heavily into emails and we learned that carol was very unhappy with the outcome of the divorce. They argued heavily back and forth up until the day of her murder. Reporter steve made good money as a financial advisor, had agreed to pay six thousand dollars a month in spousal support. When you say somebody makes over five hundred thousand dollars you would assume that a sixthousanddollar Monthly Payment is not a big deal. But he was spending way more than he was making. He was having to borrow money from his parents almost monthly. When hes making a half a million a year . Thats correct. And the six thousand dollars he was going to be unable to sustain his lifestyle. Reporter mind you, those numbers were for 2008. A year when, like a lot of people, steve hemorrhaged money because of the financial crisis. Still, to the detective, that six thousand a month sounded like motive, and might even explain why the murder occurred when it did. At the beginning of july. And that payment started june 1st. The second payment was due july 1st. She was murdered july 2nd. And that payment was never made. I wasnt there. I wouldnt do that. Reporter again and again, he denied killing his exwife. Said he was out Mountain Biking the evening she died. But, look at this. Along with shoeprints near carols house after the murder, police also found tire tracks. Bike tires. We then were able to see that the bike had been stashed and then the individual walked right to the back of her house. Reporter they did not take direct impressions of those shoe and tire tracks as investigators frequently do, but they did take pictures of the tracks. Looked a lot like the treads on steves tires, they felt. And, while no matching shoes turned up, they discovered that steve once bought a pair that might match. And then, there was the curious business of the murder weapon. Or possible murder weapon. Remember the coroners report. Suggesting carol may have been hit with a golf club . When investigators learned that, something clicked in their memories from their first search through steves house. There were golf clubs in his garage. So lets go back and seize them, right . Yeah, seize them and examine them to see if we can determine that these golf clubs were used as the murder weapon. So it sounds like kind of an aha moment, right . Its one of those moments that you go, oh, my goodness, we may have overlooked something. Reporter so, they returned to steves condo, seized the golf clubs from the garage. And tested them. But could find no evidence that any of them was the murder weapon. Still there was Something Else. In the first search of the condo, a detective remembered seeing a golf club cover, or golf sock on a shelf. They looked at the photos. There it was. But when they searched the garage a second time, it was gone. And the shelf itself had apparently been sort of rearranged. Reporter was it possible that now missing golf sock belonged to a different golf club. One that was no longer around. One used to kill Carol Kennedy. Did steve, knowing he was a suspect, get rid of that golf sock because it was incriminating evidence . Seemed like every investigative trail they followed led right back to the same person they had suspected all along. Carols friend katherine knew who that was. I didnt believe that steve did it. But i couldnt think of anyone else that would possibly do any harm to carol. And so three months after carol was killed, they arrested Steve Democker on a charge of first degree murder. Steves sister, sharon. Im trying to imagine what it was like for the family, this amazing, accomplished, interesting, intelligent family, when the leader child was charged with murdering his wife. A woman who you all loved. It was a total shock. Youre going, they, they, they dont understand. If if they knew him they would see how wrong and impossible this was. Reporter even worse, prosecutors filed for the Death Penalty. Any chance for bail for steve, given the charge, was remote. Still, the whole democker family gathered in court for the hearing, which, coincidence, had been scheduled for christmas eve, 2008. And then it was delayed. It was a crushing blow seeing the wheels turn painfully slowly in this process. So we left, and were standing out in the corridor, and then, they were just startin to bring steve out, and we said, do you know what . Lets just sing him a christmas carol. So, we started singing, we wish you a merry christmas. And, we could see that, you know, there were tears streaming down steves face. Reporter steves family wept too. They believed he was innocent. That someone else killed carol. And their belief only grew stronger. 911 what is the emergency . Reporter after . A 911 call. This time to the Prescott Police department. The doors open, it looks like a gunshot hole in the window, and theres a shell casing inside, and the bedroom door is closed. Coming up the husband always does it, right . They focused in on one person right from the very beginning. A thumbprint. A smear of blood. And heres the bombshell. Neither one belonged to Steve Democker. 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They zeroed in on Steve Democker right from the very beginning. Reporter but robertson said detectives should have taken a much closer look at another man in carol s life, jim knapp. The man who lived in the guest house and showed up at the crime scene within minutes of the officers. And, who was the first person to point the finger at steve. But the fact that Law Enforcement viewed him in a different way that they viewed Steve Democker, that they saw jim knapp as a friendly witness, and they see Steve Democker as a suspect, frames the way that they investigate. So anything having to do with jim knapp becomes excusable, explained, its just not something you have to worry about because hes not our guy. Reporter and yet . Look, for example, at these crime scene photos of carols kitchen counter. This magazine was sitting on it, and slipped inside, between the pages, were some financial documents that were printed the very day carol was murdered. That became really important because his thumbprint is on those financial documents. Reporter what was jim knapp doing with those documents . And Something Else, perhaps very significant. There was blood on the doorknob of the door that led from the main house into the backyard garage. Reporter the blood became evidence item 805 collected days after carols death. And whose dna was mixed with carols blood . Jim knapps dna. Just like the thumbprint, the question becomes when did jim knapps dna get put on that door handle . Reporter robertson clearly had his suspicions. And steves sister sharon did too. So youve felt all along that jim knapp should have been a suspect and wasnt. He shouldve been investigated. There were a lot of red flags that were concerning. Reporter knapp told sheriffs deputies he was no where near carols house when the murder happened. He was at his exwifes place, miles away, babysitting his son. Didnt they find out that the alibi, in fact, was pretty solid . No. Actually it wasnt. What the son said was that, yeah theyd gotten a video and the son was watching it. He doesnt know where dad was. Dad wasnt sitting beside him in the room . No. Dad was not watching with him, so he doesnt know where dad was. And the son got bored watching this movie and i believe he went and got on his computer. So theres a period of time that we dont really know. He might have been in the house, but nobody saw him. Reporter so maybe knapps solid alibi wasnt . And remember how he told everyone he had cancer . Sharon, a doctor, discovered something about that. Ive seen the medical records. And . He had a superficial type of skin cancer at one point and itd been removed. So no. He didnt. Reporter steves family even recorded this video, after the murder, in which jim knapp said things about carol they found deeply disturbing. Because carol and i lived a life like an old married couple. He was actually rather obsessed with carol. I have emails that hes written about how what he and carol share is more than anyone could picture. That no one will understand the bond that they have and how close they are to each other. And he referred to her, to some people, as his girlfriend, but she never had any romantic interest in him and no one and he had has ever tremendous romantic interest in her. Very much so. Thus in your mind, a reason to be angry one night . Certainly. Reporter was it possible that carol rebuffed him. That he got angry . The detectives didnt ask those questions, said steves family. And soon it was too late. Six months after carols murder. A 911 call from a condo where jim knapp went to live after carol was killed. We came for a welfare check of a friend of mine. The doors open. It looks like a gun shot hole in the window, and theres a shell casing inside and the bedroom doors closed. Who are you doing the welfare check on . Jim knapp. Reporter jim knapp was dead. Gunshot wound. The medical examiner ruled it a suicide. I was stunned. It was it was one of those moments where it just sort of took my breath away. And then when i found out there was no note and as i learned about the details of what the scene looked like, its still a baffling death. Reporter baffling because it simply did not look like a suicide. There was multiple gunshots fired in that room. There was furniture in disarray. There was drawers pulled out. Reporter staging, in other words. Just as the investigators believed someone staged the scene of carols murder. Was jim knapp carols killer . Or another victim of an unknown killer . Or maybe both . Couldnt have been steve, he was in jail. And then the questions multiplied. In june 2009, almost a year after carols death, steves attorney received an email. The sender, anonymous. The email read i can tell you what really happened the night kennedy was killed. The email said jim knapp was running his mouth to kennedy about a Prescription Drug deal he was in. It said the murder was meant to look like, Home Invasion gone bad. This wasnt one crazed man with a golf club. When steves attorneys told him about the email, steve replied with a startling story. He had heard the same thing just a month earlier. In jail. Steve said that somebody was communicating to him through the ventilation system in the jails and told him a story about how a drug ring out of phoenix had been trying to collect money or seek some retribution against jim knapp for involvement in a Prescription Drug ring. Reporter the attorneys arranged for a meeting. An opportunity for steve to tell Law Enforcement what he heard so they could investigate it. They showed him the mysterious email. Listen to his reaction. Im sorry. Well, i almost hate to ask you this, but can you explain why youre emotional here today . Because i spent a year not knowing what happened to carol and being accused of it. Thats whats happened right now. Reporter there was more than the email to go on. Remember the dna the medical examiner found under carols fingernails . Turned out it wasnt steves. Or jim knapps. Police called the dna, evidence item 603. But to defense investigator Rich Robertson, it represented much more. Evidence item 603 became mr. 603. It was a males dna that was found mixed in with carols blood under the fingernails of her left hand. And this wasnt a small amount of dna. A reasonable person i think would think, this probably could have gotten there during an attack. Reporter jim knapp. The anonymous email. Mr. 603. Steves family and attorneys thought investigators should focus more on all of those things. Instead, it seemed to them, prosecutors had already made up their minds, and steve would go on trial for murder. A daughter takes the stand. Did you ask him about those scratches . I did. 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To have your father accused of killing your mother and for them to not believe it. You cant imagine what that must have done to how they view things. And its just got to be a horrible experience. And in his opening statement, defense attorney john sears was quick to address that Life Insurance money. You will hear from katie and charlotte that their father told them from the beginning, this is your money from your mother. This isnt mine. He disclaimed, he signed over any interest to the girls and the money was paid out to the girls. Thats what happened in this case. Reporter prosecutor butner called his first witness. Katie democker, steve and carols elder daughter. Did she have a habit of things that she did when she came home from work . She did. She typically went for a run maybe four days a week out on the backland. And to your recollection, did she leave the door unlocked when she would do that . Yes. Reporter an unlocked door. Opportunity for her killer to enter and wait. On the stand, carols mother, ruth kennedy, had to relive that very last phone call with her daughter. How exactly did it end so abruptly . She told the Sheriffs Department operator that carol had screamed oh, no. And you just said that, oh, no a certain way with a certain emphasis, was that the way that she said it to your recollection . She said, oh, no. Basically, thats the way it came out. Did she scream then . It really was not a scream. Im sure it was because i was so rattled myself. She just said, oh, no thats all she said and basically in that tone of voice, like it was more dismay. Reporter this was very difficult for ruth, as you can imagine. She was everything a mother would want in a daughter. She was a good mother. Reporter charlotte, the younger democker daughter, was living with steve that summer. Was in steves house the night of the murder when he was unreachable for 5 hours and said his cell phone was dead. Your father, did he have normally have spare batteries with him . Sometimes in his car. Did he carry them in the car and also in his briefcase . Its possible. I dont know. Normally, he was reachable by way of his cell phone, right . Yes. Reporter and when he finally got home that night, she saw those scratches. Suspicious, according to the prosecution. Did you ask him about those scratches . I did. What did he tell you . He explained they were from branches from riding his bike. Reporter and then the prosecutor asked charlottes, by then, former boyfriend jacob about the weird business of the golf club cover. The golf sock that appeared in a photo in steves garage, night of the murder, but was gone when detectives returned with another search warrant. The implication, of course, was that the cover fit the club, never found, that killed carol. Jacob said that after the detectives left he talked to steve. What was that conversation . The golf head sock cover was found after they had left. He said, he had found it . Yes. Did he say what he was going to do with it . He didnt know whether or not to turn it into the police or give it to his lawyer. Reporter implying, said the prosecution, that steve knew the golf sock could incriminate him, and didnt know what to do with it. But just as the case seemed to be building momentum, two weeks into the trial, judge Thomas Lindberg left the bench at lunch break and suddenly collapsed. It was a brain tumor. And everybody waited for 5 weeks until a brand new judge was appointed, so they could pick up with testimony right where they left off. And thats when the jurors finally got to hear what became of the missing golf cover. Go ahead and open your evidence bag please. Reporter detective Theresa Kennedy showed it to the jurors and the judge explained a stipulation made by the attorneys. On july 5, 2008. Reporter turned out, days after carols murder, steve gave the golf sock to his attorney, john sears. Who kept it in his locked office until steves arrest. Thats when sears turned it over to Law Enforcement. Reporter so was the curious case of the migrating club sock an attempt to cover up a murder, or a bit of confusion. An investigative dead end . Prosecutors werent done, mind you. They next tried to tie steve to the crime scene. They didnt find any of steves dna or fingerprints at carols house, but they did see those tire tracks. A criminalist compared them with the tires on steves bike. The tread on this tire is similar to the tread we observed of this tire track. And did you find any discernible differences between them . No i did not. Reporter and those shoe prints. They brought in an expert from the fbi. Did you find any shoes that seemed to be comparable to the impressions that you observed in these photos from the crime scene . Yes. I found one shoe that could have made those impressions. Reporter a la sportiva pikes peak. Records showed that steve bought a pair of those shoes two years before the murder. But when detectives searched his house, they didnt find any such shoes. So, intriguing, but hardly proof. Prosecutors knew they had a big problem. That anonymous email linking the murder, not to steve, but to jim knapp and illegal drugs. So, even as the trial went on, investigator mike sechez was interviewing and reinterviewing witnesses. Including steves girlfriend, renee girard. It was obvious to me that she was very protective of mr. Democker. Reporter steve began datg renee when he was separated from carol. They were together during that tumultuous time, steves divorce, carols murder, his arrest. Renee had always stood by steve and his family but sechez had a feeling. We were pretty convinced that she knew more than she was telling us. Reporter sechez knew Something Else too. During the trial renee broke up with steve. So on the eve of her testimony sechez interviewed renee again about that anonymous email. What he discovered . Explosive is not too big a word. Where did that mysterious message come from . Steve was terrified. That was one doozy of a mistake. The email trail. The money trail. A winding trail of surprises was about to change this case. That was a doozy of a mistake. Lo mein, szechwan chicken, chopsticks, soy sauce and you got some fortune cookies. Have a good one. Ah, these small new york apartments. Protect your belongings. Let geico help you with renters insurance. Okay kids, lets go. [coughing] no one can really fill your shoes when youre sick. [toy car electric motor] [toy car horn beeping] alkaseltzer plus hot drink mix has four cold symptom fighters to relieve your tough symptoms. [whoosh of steam] [deep breath] stay unstoppable. Alkaseltzer plus. Heres something to shout from the mountaintop. 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And remember the anonymous email that claimed carols murder was linked to an illegal drug ring . Oh boy. She told me that mr. Democker had informed them during one of their inperson visits at the jail to bring some pencil and paper. There was a glass between them. Mr. Democker had brought a document with him that he placed on the glass, so that they could view it. Reporter according to renee, steve himself wrote that document. Then asked his daughter charlotte, just 17 at the time, to copy it down. Mr. Democker then asked them to send that document which became known as the anonymous email to mr. Sears and to the prosecutors office. Reporter mr. Sears was john sears. One of steves Defense Attorneys. Steves reasoning, according to steves sister sharon, hed heard that story from an inmate in that airvent conversation and desperately wanted to get the story out, and investigated. The Death Penalty was still on the table. So, steve was terrified. We were terrified. I can certainly appreciate when youre terrified, maybe you do some stupid things. Well, its when you start making mistakes, and that was a doozy of a mistake. Uhhuh. Reporter and uncovering that fraud led investigators to what they thought was another, even bigger one. Remember carols Life Insurance money . 750,000 worth. Steves defense attorney talked about it during his opening statement. He disclaimed, he signed over any interest to the girls and the money was paid out to the girls. Thats what happened in this case. Reporter that statement caught investigator mike sechez by surprise. We had made contact with the Life Insurance company several times throughout the investigation and we had been informed that the Life Insurance had not been paid out to anyone. Reporter so, had the insurance paid out or hadnt it . Sechez took another look, a much harder look at the money trail. Not only was the insurance paid out, but it was paid to the two daughters who then transferred it to several accounts, including wire transfers to mr. Demockers parents account in new york, who then wire transferred it back to mr. Demockers defense team. Reporter remember Steve Democker was a highlypaid financial adviser. The prosecutors now believed he was using that expertise to try to get away with murder. Here is a person that murdered his exwife then collected her Life Insurance of over 750 thousand dollars and is using that Life Insurance to pay his defense team in the murder prosecution. So then prosecutors added fraud to the charges steve was facing. But fraud is certainly not what it was, said defense investigator Rich Robertson. These girls voluntarily, on their own, believing in their fathers innocence, dedicated money that they inherited to defend him. How can that be wrong . The girls decided to use that money for their dads defense. There was no fraud, or the Insurance Company would have been the first one to say, hey, we got a problem here. So, was that just piling on, on the part of the prosecution . Yeah. Reporter the much bigger issue for the defense, said investigator robertson, was that phony email. An email the attorneys presented in court as real. Because, they said, they, too, were duped by steve. Suddenly, the attorneys are in an awkward legal ethical kind of posture and, in relationship to their client. And so it created an untenable situation for the First Defense team. Reporter so untenable for these highly respected Defense Attorneys that they no option, they said withdrew from the case. And so, seven months in the judge was forced to declare a mistrial. We thought we were sprinting to the finish line. We thought that steve was gonna be home in time for thanksgiving, and suddenly the finish line just kinda moved off into the horizon. Reporter gut wrenching said carols friend katherine. It was so emotional of, not even a roller coaster. Just the intensity of of the emotion. Reporter theyd have to start all over again. The money the girls received from their mothers insurance was gone now. Gone to pay for the first team of attorneys. So, since steve was pretty much destitute, Court Appointed attorneys stepped in. And right away Craig Williams and greg parzych were impressed by how steves family supported him. Its a large family. Very educated, very tightknit group. How uniformly did they support steve through this process . Id say very uniformly. Theyre all behind him . Yes. Reporter but one thing after another. As steves second trial approached. There was another, huge, surprise. The source of the dna found under carols fingernails was finally identified. That would be mr 603. The mysterious mr 603, not who anyone expected. How can you trust anything after that . Exactly. Social side. Maybe see if its something that has an affect on her social side. 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Reporter it had always been an issue in the case against Steve Democker that one fascinating clue that could break the case wide open. Who was mr. 603 . Thats what people were calling the mysterious dna found under carols fingernails after she was murdered. One thing for sure, it was not steve. We exhausted so many man hours and looked at any and all alternatives. Reporter and then it was during the long months of waiting for a new trial to begin, the prosecution had an idea. What if that 603 sample was a simple mistake. What if something just got mixed up in the lab . So investigator mike sechez looked up the autopsy done just before carols. And submitted a sample from that for retesting. And . Nearly three years after carols murder, a call from the crime lab. The sample dna that we sent had matched the dna under Carol Kennedys fingernails. We finally were able to discover and verify who mr. 603 is. Reporter mr. 603, it turned out, was another dead soul, the man lying on the autopsy table before carol got there. It was his dna. Maybe on one of the coroners instruments, that ended up under carols fingernails. Mystery solved. One more doubt removed, said the prosecution. But for steves defense team, it was further proof of a shoddy investigation. Contamination. We found out not only potential contamination, there was actual contamination in this case. How can you trust anything after that . Exactly. Reporter defense attorney Craig Williams said the case against steve had an even bigger flaw. You cannot put Steve Democker in that house where there was a horrific murder, a bloody murder, you cant put him in the house. No dna at all. No dna, no blood. You dont find any dna of carols on him anywhere. You dont find any dna, fingerprints, blood, anything that hes in the house. How can you convict him of murder . Reporter but in july 2013, by this time a full five years after carols death, steve was still in jail, and the case finally went to trial again. New Defense Attorneys. A new prosecution team. Who, it soon became clear, had, during the long delays, spent some quality time honing their argument against steve. Carol kennedy had no enemies. This was not a burglary or a robbery, no valuables are missing. The overwhelming evidence in this case points to the defendant and at the close of that evidence we will ask you to return verdicts of guilty on all charges and especially firstdegree murder. Reporter and now the prosecution had more evidence. Like steves google searches during the month before carols death. Damaging, to say the least. There was some information for the term how to kill and make it look like suicide, and there was some information on the term how to make a homicide appear suicide. Reporter those emails and texts messages, carol and steve arguing in the days before her death, were read to the jury. A crime scene analyst claimed the blood spatter indicated the killer was left handed. With the position that i think is the most comfortable position, i would think that theyre swinging from the left. Reporter and steve was left handed. Remember the golf sock in the garage . It was made, said the prosecution, for a now missing left handed club. So here, at last, was the states theory about how steve killed his exwife. Days before the murder, said the state, he dropped off that club at carols house, supposedly for her to sell in an upcoming garage sale, but left the golf sock in his garage. And then, the night of the murder, he sneaked into her house, and used that club to kill her. Though such a club was never found, the golf sock was evidence it existed, said the prosecution, and the shape of carols wounds confirmed it. Then, to bolster an alibi, as his exgirlfriend renee girard testified for the prosecution, steve allowed his cell phone battery to die. Something he never normally did. In general, there was usually a battery in his phone and an extra battery either charged or being charged. Did you ever know him to be to not have a phone at the ready if he needed to use it . He didnt. Reporter renee also revealed that a month after the murder, steve told her something that in hindsight seemed very significant. In the evening we would take a walk on the golf course and he picked up a bag on the way out the door one evening and as we were walking told me about the bag and what he was going to do with it. Reporter a getaway bag. Which she said he buried on a golf course. And sure enough, with renees help, detectives found the bag on the golf course. Inside were cash, clothing, and a cell phone, and a pen light. Also, after steve was arrested, they conducted more searches. In his storage unit, they found books about how to cover your tracks and live as a fugitive. At an apartment he rented in scottsdale, arizona, they found Something Interesting in the parking garage. I believe it was a bmw motorcycle that the detectives showed me that was in the parking garage. They believe that he had recently purchased it. Reporter and inside these locked cases, they later learned, steve had maps, clothing, hair dye, makeup, and fifteen thousand dollars in cash. Charlotte, who still believed her father was innocent, reluctantly testified for the prosecution. Put on the spot, she had to agree she knew he was thinking of running. And under a grant of immunity she admitted that she wrote the socalled anonymous email that claimed carol was killed by drug dealers. An email dictated by her father. And at one point, your dad held up a piece of paper to that glass window and wanted you to write down what was on that paper . Yes. And you did . Yes. What were you supposed to do with that piece of paper . I was supposed to write an email with the same substance that i had copied down. I believe, in the hopes that it would be investigated further. What did that mean to you, i mean, did you believe it . I did. I believed that that was what he had been told by someone in the jail. And that, you know it was very emotional for me. And i wanted it to be investigated. So how did you get the information out . I sent an anonymous email. Reporter anonymous. So that it could not be traced back to her or her father. Her older sister katie wasnt aware the email had come from charlotte. But, she was at the center of the story about Life Insurance. Steve had signed a disclaimer saying he would not benefit from the proceeds of carols Life Insurance. But, katie was forced to testify that wasnt true. My father was asking me for various things related to that money. Reporter once carols Life Insurance paid out, katie transferred her share to her grandparents. But you knew that your grandparents were going to use that money for attorneys fees . That was my understanding, some or all of it. Reporter the prosecution called close to 50 witnesses to portray Steve Democker as a man who plotted to kill his wife. Plotted his escape. And used his own children to fund his defense. And even hoodwink his lawyers and the court. The case looked strong, the prosecution rested. Your honor, the state would rest. Reporter now it was time to hear from the defense. And, no surprise, it had a quite different theory about Carol Kennedys murder. A theory that had nothing whatsoever to do with Steve Democker. Coming up that man in the guest cottage. It wasnt a little bit of evidence that we had on mr. Knapp. It was a mountain of evidence. Im wondering what was this man capable of . Was he going to hurt me or hurt my family . I was scared. 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No, they said. Rather, he was the victim of some detectives tunnel vision, beginning with a sloppy investigation. There was kind of cavalcade of people roaming through this scene that they didnt lock down, tromping through footprints and tromping through the house. And they didnt seal it off correctly. To me, when somebody shows up on the scene and immediately points the finger at the exhusband, and then thats all they ever did. Its always boom, right on him . It was always on him. Reporter the jurors listened to steves interview with the detectives, conducted the night carol was killed. Weve got a suspicious death and right now we dont have any other person. And youre suspecting me. Well, we have no other person right now. Reporter in which you can hear the suspicion, said the defense. And steve, said the attorneys, felt a cold fear overcoming him. Hes afraid of whats happening, that the investigation is all on him, theyre not focusing on anybody else, anything else that focuses on him, and hes afraid that nobody will believe him. Reporter thats why he buried the getaway bag, they said. Wasnt a sign of guilt, but of terror. In fact, it didnt turn up until months after steve was arrested. You never had any evidence that mr. Democker tried to use that bag to flee, correct . That he tried to use the bag to flee . Yes. I believe thats precisely what he did. He never fled. We arrested him before he could flee, yes. Well, youre using a term of art there before he could flee. My question to you is very direct. He did not flee, did he . He was not able to no. Okay. Theres another term of art. Its a very simple question. Did mr. Democker flee or not . Thats a yes or no question. No, he did not flee. Reporter and steves sister sharon had a simple explanation for those coincidences, the night of the murder. The circumstantial evidence. Like his dead cell phone battery. I think most of us with cell phones can appreciate that later in the day its not uncommon for the battery to go. But their ears perked up when he drew the route and part of it came within a mile of the house on bridle path. Well, he lived out there. For many years. So that was a favored trail. They also made a great deal of the tracks that they found in the property. The shoe prints that mustve been his, the tire tracks that mustve been his. Nobody knows whose those are. He did buy a pair at one point. But he doesnt know if he kept them. He said, i never keep any shoes for more than six months. He ran all the time. No shoes lasted more than six months. And he bought them a couple years earlier, is that right. Yeah. The bicycle tire, thats the tire thats on 80 of all the Mountain Bikes in the u. S. Its the most common tire. So theres nothing very distinctive about that. They wanted to be able to tell the jury that it was a match. They were not allowed to do that because as the experts said, we have no idea if its a match or not. Something that has more or less. Reporter the defense called its own forensic pathologist to ask if the medical examiner was correct in his conclusion that the murder weapon was a golf club. With regards to saying, ah, specifically this weapon, i cant. I think the golf club is a, as Alfred Hitchcock used to say, its the mcguffin, okay . Its the magic device to tie it to Steve Democker, the golfer, the elitist. Sure. The rich guy who is pissed off about. Fine. But isnt there Scientific Evidence to say thats a Golf Club Head that hit it . No. I dont agree with any of that. And nobody, not a Single Person could say that that was a golf club. They all said it could have been a golf club. But they also said it could have been other weapon. Reporter the defense argued detectives should have looked into other suspects too. One person in particular. Jim knapp. The man who rented carols guest house and arrived at the scene almost immediately after deputies. Why was he a potential suspect in your view . Well, its like the guy who lights the fire that comes back to watch it burn. And that was our feeling about mr. Knapp. Because it wasnt a little bit of evidence that we had on mr. Knapp. It was a mountain of evidence on him. Reporter knapp, said the Defense Attorneys, was in serious financial trouble and cooked up a shameless lie to persuade friends to lend him money. They told the jury about how knapp faked cancer. He got to the point where he was lying about having active cancer and asking people for financial help so that he could take care of his cancer, which he actually didnt have. He didnt have. Reporter they said knapp desperately wanted to buy a franchise business, a smoothie store, with carols divorce money. At one point, even introducing carol as his business partner. So was he obsessed with carol . His behavior with this former girlfriend when she tried to break up with him certainly seemed obsessive to her, she said he wouldnt leave her alone. Kept sending her emails. Im wondering what was this man capable of. Was he going to come up and stalk . Was he going to do something mean . Was he going to hurt me or hurt my family . I felt threatened is what it felt like. And i was scared. Reporter more defense questions . How did jim knapps fingerprints wind up on those financial documents that were printed the day of the murder and found slipped inside a magazine sitting on carols kitchen counter . And how did knapps dna get mixed with carols blood in a sample taken from a doorknob, leaving the house . That was evidence item 805. They called a dna expert. So you can see that all the way across that top line the numbers are the same as james knapp and there are many points of difference with Steve Democker. Your point was that on each of these analyses, james knapp matches each one of these, and Steve Democker doesnt. Thats right. Reporter in fact, neither Steve Demockers da, nor his fingerprints, were ever found at the crime scene. So, had police focused on the wrong man all along . And because Steve Democker knew that, did he make a foolish mistake like a frightened man would . The anonymous email, the voice in the vent, all of that occurs once hes placed in custody, loses hope and becomes desperate. That should not, in our opinion, should not have been introduced in this trial. Thats a whole separate trial, a whole separate issue. Reporter the defense tried to keep all that out of the trial did not succeed. Yeah, because it makes him look like a bad, evil guy who forced his daughters to use their inheritance money to pay for his attorneys, a low, scummy thing to do. But none of that put him in the house. None of that put any dna on him, in his house car, person, anything along those lines. Judge, at this time, the defense rests. Thank you. Reporter all along, steves family remained rock solid in his corner. As sister sharon said. I wanna think the best of my brother. The other part of it is that no one showed me anything that changes my mind. There is no evidence to say, well, you know, youre not thinkin about this. Show me something. But do you see your own kind of, understandable family bias affecting your judgment about these things . If you can prove to me that this is what happened then thats different. But im missing the big evidence thats, says that he was there. Reporter and now, five years after the brutal murder on bridle path, a jury would finally get to decide. And steve would finally get his say. Coming up it was rough on everybody. You really are on pins and needles. Let there be peace on earth let there be peace on earth time in the service. Community college. 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Yeah, and you have no control over it. Uhhuh. Strangers are gonna decide. Uhhuh. Who dont know your brother . Uhhuh. Reporter this family of highly educated professionals knew the case for and against steve as intimately as any attorney. On the third day of deliberations, there was nothing for them to do but sit together. Watch their phones. And then, as they prepared to leave a coffee shop in prescott news. The jury had reached a verdict. But it was four in the afternoon. Apparently quitting time. And the judge decided theyd all have to wait until morning to hear what the verdict was. Katie and charlotte, comforted by steves parents, his siblings. Had another night to wait and wonder what did the jury decide . It was rough on everybody. It is. And its just horrible. With that Nervous Energy then is to the you cant sleep. We were thinking, well, are they just stretching this out . Was it torture . Well, sure, i mean, we we just want them to go ahead and let him go now. Reporter then, the next morning the clock struck nine. It was time. When they came back into the room, could you tell . Yeah. Didnt have a good feeling. Its never good when they come back in the room and they wont look at the family. We the jury duly empaneled and sworn find the defendant, Steve Democker, guilty. Verdict count 2, guilty. For count 3, guilty. Reporter guilty on all counts. Howd it feel . We were just stunned. Its it wasnt the right verdict. The law didnt support that verdict. Reporter defense investigator Rich Robertson didnt think so either. The biggest shock to me was that they came back unanimous and came back unanimous fairly quickly. It was disappointing. And still is. How did steve take it . Devastated. Steves innocent. And steve wants to continue to fight and prove his innocence. Thats what his mission is now. Reporter but is he innocent . Investigator mike sechez. I believe in my heart and soul that Steve Democker killed Carol Kennedy. Reporter he thinks often, he said, about the daughters about the impact on them. While my heart goes out to them, you know, you have to recognize that this is all because of one mans actions. Reporter carols friend, katherine. I never wanted to believe that steve was capable of doing this. And the jury has made their decision. I accept their decision. I agree with their decision. Im so glad its over. Im so relieved. Because so many of us have been dragged through it for the last five and a half years. Reporter katie and charlotte were back in court at their fathers sentencing. And in spite of everything, the states case against steve, how steve used charlotte to create that phony email evidence and then paid for his defense with Life Insurance money carol intended for her daughters. In spite of all that, at their fathers sentencing, they asked the judge for leniency. I ask because i would like the opportunity to someday walk again with my father, freely and outside. To speak openly and honestly with him and find ways to heal the pain of this prolonged nightmare. I believe in healing and forgiveness because that is the way that i was raised. As for me, i can promise that i will never forget the memory of my mother. She lives in me every day and will for the rest of my life. The additional pain of the reality that we now face is very difficult for me to grasp. The knowledge that like my mother, my father may never attend my wedding or see my children born or even watch me graduate. It feels like losing a parent all over again. This excruciating punishment is s reporter leniency was not forthcoming. The judge sentenced Steve Democker to natural life plus 20 years. No parole. No hope of a life ever outside prison walls. All along, wed been asking for an interview with steve. He was willing. The sheriff wasnt. Finally, after the sentencing, we were allowed a brief telephone interview from state prison. The lengths that they went to string. To to amplify, to exaggerate the evidence, to even misrepresent it, that was the only way they were able to achieve this conviction. And its just wrong, keith. Its just wrong. Youre looking ahead here to an appeal process that will take quite some time at the minimum. You know, appeals are hard to win. You could be, in fact, in prison for the rest of your life. Are you prepared for that . Im as prepared as anyone can be. I mean, the part thats really hard is you become nothing but a burden. And so i guess if i wind up here for the rest of my life, i will try to find some way to be of use in the world. Reporter interesting thing about Steve Democker. Hes an extremely articulate man. Can he possibly be sincere, too . All we can know with certainty is that carol will never again have the chance to be useful. Although, scratch that. Maybe she will. One thing that she always, sort of, said to us, as long as im living in this world, i am always here for you and with you. 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