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Nation from st. Louis. Good morning and welcome to face the nation from the library of the Washington University school of law. I am john dickerson. It has been two days since the video of Donald Trumps disparaging comments about women surfaced in the washington post. The reaction has crip it would trump campaign, at least two dozen republicans who had previously supported donald trump now say they will no longer support him, some have gone further and urged him to step aside. Trump surrogate and former new york mayor Rudy Giuliani joins us now from trump tower. Mr. Mayor, what does donald trump think he did wrong in that video from 2005 . Well, you know, i cant tell you what is in his mind exactly but it is obvious he is apologized for it. He is very embarrassed about it. He is a different man now that he was then having gone through 14 months of a campaign that having gone through it myself that are important that that maybe you didnt realize before. I think he is embarrassed from the point of view of his wife and his two daughters and his three granddaughters and certainly not language he ever wants them to hear and sort of embarrassed they will now at least some of them know about it. And i guess like a lot of white house have done something wrong he wishes he hadnt done it and he is asking for forgiveness and i look at what is at stake here and the number of peopl confidence in him who belief me is leading a movement to change washington and his opponent is someone who is more of the same. I think there is a heavyweight on him to, you know, not pull out and run this race to the end. Dickerson mr. Mayor, how do we know what he is apologizing for if we dont know what he is apologizing for. He is apologizing for what he said. He is the apologized for making those terrible remarks and i dont know how much further he can go and apologize. You know, i am a catholic and you go to confession and you explain your sins to the priest and then he makes you make a Firm Resolution not to do it again and gives you absolution and he is telling the American People, i sinned, i was wrong. I made terrible mistakes and i am asking for your forgiveness and i am trying dickerson character. I think what it says an his character is that he is a flawed sort of theology that i spent a lot of time studying when i was a young man, we all are, and he has his set of flaws and i have mine and i guess there are a few Perfect People but in my view there only have been one, and that was jesus christ, so maybe dickerson . Maybe people should step back and take a look at the fact we have flawed candidates on both kind of got dwarfed by this but that shows a person who is one person in private and another person in public, a person who fought very, very hard to keep those private, when she was running against Bernie Sanders because they make app apparent what Bernie Sanders was saying and she was lying, she lied to the fbi which turns out to be a crime. Dickerson mr. Mayor, in these remarks, though, donald trump is saying we are all sinnerrers but it is one thing to ask for forgiveness and another thing to be elevated to the office of the presidency, in these remarks donald trump is speaking in quite a jocular terms about sexual assault, about having affairs with married women. Mike pence recently said character matters to the presidency and donald trump will bring the high test level of integrity. Does that characterization, the highest level of integrity still stand . You know, i dont know. I hate to get nearably, terribly theological, but the reality is change. Sometimes going through things like this makes you into a much better person. I know donald trump for 28, 29 years, i never heard him talk like this and saw him do a lot of wonderful things for people, including taking people from entry level jobs to the top of his company. I have seen him help people in need, and i have seen a different man in the last year and a half that, than even the donald trump i knew in the past because i see a man who understands now the weight on his shoulders for the people who believe that washington is corrupt, that washington doesnt serve them, that Hillary Clinton is part of that and has been a part of that for years, and that we need this kind of change. We need someone who can change washington. Basically kick everybody out and look, even president clinton told us the single biggest thing in the Obama Administration was crazy, obamacare. And we are going to continue that . Dickerson mr. Mayor what i these are the words of a 60yearold man, not a teenager but this represents Something Different than they have seen not ten years ago but in the Donald Trump Campaign he doesnt participate with the normal boundaries of things, whether it is about t about the kohn famile talked or a muslim ban, a series of things where donald trump is too volatile politically or temperamentally outside of the normal boundaries and that makes m and tha thats why you have peoe taking new steps, condi rice saying enough, donald trump should not be president , she didnt weigh in on the campaign but this is the mind that worries them. The reality is there is a great difference between those comments on tapes which were truly reprehensible and we agree with that, including donald trump and some of the battles that have gone on during the campaign and the simple fact is, we have flawed candidates on both sides. Problems that are equal or worse than Donald Trumps. I mean. Are you saying basically, please let me finish. She fold the fbi that she didnt know that confidential on a sensitive government document meant confidential. Now, i was in the Justice Department for 17 years, thats a lie. Just between you and me, if you believe that, i can sell you a brooklyn briej. Thats a lie thats what Martha Stewart went to lie for, violation of i can list for you maybe 35 crimes she committed that the fbi and the Justice Department, i believe, let her off the hook for just because she was Hillary Clinton, you want someone you want someone in the white house who couldnt pass an fbi background check because she was extremely careless with top secret information. So we have flawed candidates on both sides. Maybe that is going to force us to get to the issues. Dickerson all right, mr. Mayor, i am afraid we are we turn now to Hillary Clintons campaign manager, robbie mook, i want to start with the focus group we have later a in the broadcast and we talked about this donald trump video talking about sexual assault, one woman undecided voter her First Response is she said the first thing i thought of, isnt bill clinton the same type of man . Well, first of all, we want this campaign to be about the issues and i think that is what the voters want and i think the video that came out of donald trump was horrifying and unfortunate. Look, the clintons had a rough time in their marriage 20 years ago, that was at the debate tonight and in in the rest of this campaign we want to focus on the issues, and that is what miller is going to do. As voters are trying to figure out the role of presidency, isnt bill clinton and his current character the weigh he behaved, isnt that thats analyze this behavior of donald trump. It is spitefulling, spiraling, in is between donald trump and Hillary Clinton, not between donald trump and bill clinton and thats why we are going to continue to focus on the issues. If we need to discuss the issues that were raised in that video of donald trump that is fine, but the question is, what is Hillary Clintons take on that issue, not her husbands. Dickerson lets talk about some of Hillary Clintons position on the issues, we have had this week some leaks about these speeches that hillary banks. In one of the speeches, she said this. Quote, but if everybody is watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals you know then people get a little nervous to say the least, so you need both the public and the private position. Isnt that idea that there is a public and a private position what worries voters about Hillary Clinton . Well, lets be clear. I think there is a distinction between what goes on in negotiations and what her lets keep in mind, Hillary Clinton went to the floor of the nasdaq in 2008 and said that these swaps and derivatives and what was going on with the mortgage the lending market was i dont think and was going to crash the economy and she was right. She called for closing the a interest loophole for some time now. Her public position and what she is going to fight for as president are one and the same. Dickerson i guess what people would say though she may have done it in public but the tone of these speeches, the easily familiarity with the people in the audience shows that Bernie Sanders may have had something, he may have been right when he said, you know, she is saying one thing in private and one thing in public, there, the message they are getting is, you dont have to be too worried. Well, that is not the message at all. And like i said, she went to the floor of the nasdaq and said that what wall street was doing was wrong and Bernie Sanders has come out and said he has reviewed this information. First of all, which we cant verify right now, so i cant documents or emails are actually correct, but regardless, Bernie Sanders himself has weighed in and said the choice in this election is clear, donald trump cannot become president and we have to elect hillary. Dickerson again in this, from the same batch of excerpts from thed speeds on the Trance Pacific Partnership that deal with 11 countries she said in the past gdp sets the Gold Standard and now against the ttp in the current form but in these speeches she is talking about how it is moving natural the right direction, she says i again we have this situation where there is a public and a private on the issue of trade which is quite important to people. Well, it is important to understand the context for this. First of all, when she was secretary of state, it was her job to negotiate on this deal. She began that process but she didnt finish it and she certainly wasnt involved in the final language that went out. She had three key things that she said we need to have in any trade deal that it needs to wages in the United States and it needs to be consistent with our security imperatives and transpacific agreement didnt meet that language which she was about part of that a final step in the process. But john i think it is important to understand the context of all of this. These commitments were dumped out there by the russian government. The department of Homeland Security took the unprecedented step of saying this was beyond the shadow of the doubt the russians and theyy did it to help donald trump. They want us bogged down and i documents. Dickerson i will ask you about, donald trump says Hillary Clinton supports open borders and she said wrong, Fact Checkers wrong but a quote in here my dream is a hemisphere of Common Market with open trade and open borders. So she did say it. First of all i cant verify these documents but second of all you clipped off the last part of the sentence where she was referring to green energy. Dickerson she said some time in the future. She said she wants a market where green energy can flow. She was talking about integrating green energy between are actually true. But if the question is does Hillary Clinton support throwing open our borders absolutely not and do everything she can to fight to protect the interest of workers in this country, that is actually what she voted against the Central American Free Trade Agreement when she was a senator. Dickerson we will have to leave it there. We are out of time, thank you so much. And we will be right back. Saturday we sat down with a group of st. Louis residents who have participated in our Battleground Tracker poll. We began by asking them what they thought of the trump video excerpts. Dickerson how many of you know about it or have seen it in. In . So that is everyone. So alex, give me words to describe your reaction to this video. Disheartening. Well, unfortunately, i think they got caught saying things that are probably said a whole lot more often than we know. Dickerson thomas. It is absolutely disgusting and deplorable. Misogynist. Dickerson . Steve you are a possible trump supporter. 8 shunt history, 2005 i would hate to think some of the things i have done in my past that could come up in an investigation like that. I think that it does point to his lack of civility, that is concerning. I think the comments were very disgusting. I mean nothing trump says makes me maybe i could get used to this dickerson christie. I think it was disgusting but like beth mentioned i dont think it is surprising. I think it is typical. Dickerson melissa. I am mixed between feeling it is inappropriate but then i also think of locker room talk where i first heard it, i first thought of well isnt the clinton it is same type of man. Dickerson did anybody here have their mind changed about how they are going to vote based on this latest video . No. Dickerson so essentially for everybody here, this new have happened . No. Thats not true at all. This video makes me want to get on facebook a little bit more, knock on some doors. A little bit more. It is about hillary because i think donald trump is the lesser of two evils. But this just pushes that opinion a little bit further. Dickerson let me switch to Hillary Clinton and something that has been in the news with her recently. There were emails leaked that had some of the speeches she gave and one o that she gave to on wall street, she was talking about getting things done in washington. And she said if everybody is watching you now, all of the bathroom discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous to say the least. So you need both a public and a private position. Charlie, what does that mean to you, that quote . I think it is just the reality of kind of how this gets made is that you will have the public statements and the Public Policy positions, but there has well. Dickerson thomas, you are shaking your head. Those private conversations when you are not being transparent with the public is just a form of lying and is a tool for the corruption. Frankly, i think if Hillary Clinton were to do everything that she has said shp would do in the campaign, really fighting climate change, really fighting against money in politics, she would 100 percent have my but it is what she says behind closed doors that now has been officially released that i dont trust her to do that. I fall short from calling her a liar because that implies she has an intent to bring harm to people. I think she says what she thinks people want to hear. Dickerson are you going the watch the debate . Yes. What are you looking for the debate from any of the candidates . Well, i think i am going to say a little uncomfortable given of video, shaking trumps hand and, you know, debate with him. Dickerson explain a little bit more why you feel uncomfortable about her shaking his hand. Well, because what he says about women. I cant respect a man like that. Dickerson do you think the debate is going to change your mind at all in this election . Is anybodys mind maybe going to be changed by what they say . Four of you. Okay. Why dont we hear from you first, rene. It depends on how hillary addresses some issues about her character, her trustworthiness. She needs to tell the American People why we can trust her, given her track record with fudging the truth. As far as debates go, i think i am just looking to see who fails more, not who comes out ahead. Dickerson patrick, we are in a library so lets imagine we are here 20 years from now and a story end . Wow. To be continued. Is it a hopeless where is the shelf . Is it in Horror Stories or the bright uplifting there are a lot of awful things that have come out of this election. There are awful things may have made this country face truths it didnt want to face, like ultimately that we face those truths it is a good thing and hopefully in the next 20 years whether he confront them and overcome the lot of people laugh and make fun of. What gives me hope is god is in control and another thing that gives me great hope is i listen to many christian programs and all over our nation they are praying for our nation, and i believe god answers prayer. Dickerson michael how does the story end . I dont know. Sanders campaign and the fact that a lot of younger people are getting involved in politics, and hopefully will continue to Pay Attention to this. Dickerson all right. We are going to hend to the exit here. You are in the car at the side of the road and your car has broken down, who do you want to drive by, hillary or donald trump . Hillary clinton first. That is three hands. Four hand. Five hands. Donald trump . Melissa, why do you want donald trump to stomp and not Hillary Clinton . Well, he clearly likes women. So i think he would feel bad for a woman who needed help. I mean, obviously i would help myself but it would give me a chance to choose. I think he would be a little bit more giving with as far as paying for a tow truck or i dont think he would know how to change a tire or given how to pop a hood of a car but i think giving with money to help you on your way. Dickerson we will have a lot more of our focus group on our website, face the nation. Com, and we have a lot more face the nation coming up so stay with us. They all have insurance crafted personally for them. Not just coverage, craftsmanship. And we are back with some new Battleground Tracker polling in ohio hillary is up four points over donald trust, 46 percent to 42 percent. Pennsylvania is also looking like clinton country. . Se up eight points there. In wis four percentage points, 43 percent to 39 percent, cbs news election director anthony ian an. Anthony salvanto joins us, right after the tracker polls we asked folks what did you think of the tape, have you heard about it . Everybody had heard about it, it reminds you how fast things get around these days, but the reaction was divided, it was mixed. In how they viewed donald trump. 90 participant of them said it would not change their views than context we have seen things like this before throughout the year. They have said they have conceded yes he says controversial things but they are voting for him for other reasons, to change washington, et cetera. The important thing, john, is for the people who are not currently supporting him, for them, and particularly among women, they are more likely to say that they felt the tape, seeing the tape made them think worse of donald trump. Dickerson so one of his challenges, we had a floor and this suggested an ironclad floor, but the question is finding those reluctant republicans have you have called them, those who should be in his coalition but think he is too risky and women crucial to that point, and anything else in the findings about women that give us a sense of how difficult it will be for him . Yes. He was already facing large gender gaps, big differences between how men and women vote and in particular, College Educated women, you find them, in a statewide pennsylvania, for example, where you are looking at now 20point swings between how republicans typically do with that group and where hillary is now getting so many more of them. So donald trump needs to move some of those voters over, otherwise it is not just an argument problem, it becomes a math problem for him. Dickerson out of the polie ask you about we heard a lot of fantasy scenarios drop donald trust and mike pence can run to the top of the ticket. Not very, you know, first of all, this is a stated a administrative issue, state by state, ballots have been printed and sent out, some early voting is coming back already, so Donald Trumps they name is on those ballots, and you also have to look at party rules. The party rules are not clear that a party can just replace a candidate wholesale when he is still alive and wants to run, anyway, so, you know, it is not only state by state, but it is also administrative. Ballot. Dickerson right. And you have said in your polling you find that floor of trump voters who are still with him, and they are not going to cotton to have the elites in washington trying to get rid of their man for someone else. All right. Anthony thanks so much for being with us. And we will be right back in a and we will be right back in a moment. Even mermutts. 1940s aqua music burke and we covered it, february third, twentysixteen. Talk to farmers. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. 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Some of our cbs stations are leaving us now but for most of you we will be rig lot more face the nation at Washington University in st. Louis. Stay with us. His day starts at four. , hes running three miles rain or shine. Six oclock, chucks at the office. When in iowa, hes still up early. Working the farm, meeting iowans in all ninetynine counties every year. No surprise then, my husband has been named the hardest working senator. Dawn to dusk. Chuck works. Sharyl a little more than three weeks from election day, americans are glued to the polls. Maybe they shouldnt be. A cnn poll showed People Trust Trump more on confronting terrorism, but they trust clinton more on foreign policy. Sharyl when you read it reported in the media that poll says x is ahead by x points, whats the first thing you think of . John johnson i question it. [laughter] lisa don fauls leadership was forged on the battlefields of americas post9 11 wars and returned home to find that the gratitude of a nation didnt translate to a job offer. I would think people would be knocking down your door. Don i found really universally that there was this deep respect for what i had done, they just didnt think that the skills translated. How are you doing over here . Sharyl another busy night along