Into nonpaper with no identifying heading and send nonsecure. Arent you ordering him to violate the laws on handling classified material there . No. Not at all. As the state Department Said just this week, that did not happen. It never would have happened because thats just not the way i treated classified information. Headings are not classification notices and so oftentimes were trying to get the best information we can. Obviously what im asking for is whatever can be transmitted, if it doesnt come through secure to be transmitted on the unclassified system. No, there is nothing to that like so much else that has been talked about in the last year. Dickerson so, in no instance what is striking about that particular email suggests you were very how do this process you knew the instructions how to get around the restrictions for sending so youre saying there was never an in tans, any other instance which you did that . No. And it wasnt sent. I think this is another instance where what is common practice, namely i need information, i have points to make i was looking for secure fax that oftentimes theres a lot of information that isnt at all classified. Whatever information can appropriately transmitted unclassified often was, thats true for every agency in the government and everybody does business with the government. But the important point here is, i had great confidence because i worked with Jake Sullivan for years. He is the most meticulous, careful person you could possibly do business with. And he knew exactly what was and wasnt appropriate. In fact the state department has said there was no transmission its another effort by people looking for something tootle against the wall as you said in the beginning of the program to, see what sticks. But theres nothing there. Dickerson this one is a little different since fbi is investigating this specific question of whether a classification was muddled with. Let me ask you about another email which you seem ex theres surprise that somebody emailed on nonstate Department Personal email. Which is what you were doing. Why was that a surprise to you . Well, i emailed two people on their government accounts because i knew that all of that would be part of the government system. Indeed the vast majority of all my emails are in the government system. Thats how i conducted the business. I was very clear about emailing anything having to do with business to people on their government accounts. Dickerson on gun control this week, youve been pretty tough on Bernie Sanders, specifically on the question of Legal Protection to gun manufacturers. Interested in to changing the law to allow to go after gun manufacturers who act irresponsibly. Isnt that what you want . No. Thats not what i want. Thats not what the country wants, thats not what president obama called for. I think he has been consistently refusing to say that he would vote to repeal this absolute immunity from any kind of responsibility or liability. Its the only industry in our country where we have given that kind of Carte Blanche to do whatever you want to do with no fear of legal consequences. You know, president obama and i and senator sanders were all in the senate at the same time. Two of us voted against what the nra says was the most important piece of legislation in 20 years for the gun lobby. Senator sanders voted with them, through this morning has been unwilling to join the president and me in saying that this that has to be the effort that we all are behind. And he often says, well, look, im from vermont and its different. Its not like being in new york city. Well, in fact the other senator from vermont senator leahy voted with president obama and myself. I think that the excuses and efforts by senator sanders to avoid responsibility for this vote which the nra hailed as the most important in 0 years, points out a clear difference. Its a difference that democratic voters in our primary can take into account who is going to really stand up to the gun lobby, try to deal with the scourge of gun violence that takes 90 peoples lives a day. Im pretty clear on what i will do. And i support and will work hard to implement what the president has been advocating. Dickerson on senator sanders response this idea that he represents a state which there are lot of gun owners, you sympathetic to that . You said you represented wall street, thats what shaped your views on certain wall street policy you suggested that as president youd be different than did you as senator when you were representing state with a constituency. Why isnt it fair for Bernie Sanders to say as president i would be different than i would as a senator representing a state with a lot of gun owners . Well, you know, i think youve really mixed up two important issues here. Ive been consistent on gun lobby restrictions. In fact i supported the brady bill, senator sanders voted against it five times. So, there is a very clear difference. And when it comes to wall street, yes, i represented new york. I was proud to do so. And i took on wall street, im the person who came out against derivatives, im the person who came out calling for restrictions on ceo pay which thankfully got into the dodd frank bill. Im the person who went to wall street actually confronted them in 2007, i called them out on the mortgage market. I do have a history of taking on what i consider to be the abuses that come from any industry, including wall street. And i will continue to do so as president and the proposal that ive put forth about how we reign in to face what we did in 2008 has been judged as being more comprehensive. Tougher, more effective by barney frank, my friend ohio who leads the banking efforts in the senate and by paul krugman i have plan that will go after not just the big banks because dodd frank has given us the tools to do a lot of that. But to go after the socalled shadow bank can industry. I think im well prepared, i know what needs to be done, like nixon going to china, john. Dickerson let me ask you about a general election opponent you may face that is donald trump you got into a pretty ugly exchange you charged he put out Instagram Video of your husband and monica lewinsky, your reaction to that . Well, if he wants to engage in personal attacks from the past, thats his prerogative. So be it. Im going to draw the distinctions between where i stand and where he stands when it comes to equal pay for women. Raising the minimum wage which affects twothirds of the women who are the ones receiving the minimum wage. Protecting a womans right to make the most personal healthcare decisions, thats why im so proud to have the endorsement of the planned Parenthood Action Fund that i received today in new hampshire, because im going to fight as hard as i can against any parenthood, something that he supports. There are very clear distinctions, he can say whatever he wants to about me. Let the voters judge that. I am not going to let him or any of the other republicans rip away the progress that women have made, its been too hard fought for and im going to stand up and make it clear theres a huge difference between us. Do you say to those in your own party who say that is discussion that have portion of your husbands career is fair game to talk about in an election. Well, its been fair game going back to the republicans for some years. They can do it again if they want to. That can be their choice as to how to run in this campaign. Didnt work before. It wont work again. Because it is what people are focused on not for the past but for the future. What are we going to do to get wages rising. What are we going to do to create more good jobs and keep rights. What are we going to do to make sure that the Supreme Court has people on it who will defend womens rights. Who will defend marriage equality. Who will defend voters rights. So, i cant run anybody elses campaign. They can say whatever they want, more power to them. I think its a dead end, blind alley for them, let them go. Im going to talk about the differences because i think thats what americans compare about. Dickerson im going were add dead end ourselves thanks thanks, lets continue the conversation, john. Dickerson see you out there. We caught up with republican president ial candidate Chris Christie jed in columbia, South Carolina. We begin our conversation with president obamas use of executive action to expand background checks. Why isnt this leadership . Hes using every possible method he can to get what he wants. Youve talked a lot about leadership. Dictatorship is not leadership. Hes act can like a dictator and petulance child. What i mean in 2008 he came in with it all. Huge majority in the house. Filibuster proof majority in the senate. And republicans had 21 governors. Since that time 31 republican governors big majority in the house, majority in the senate, his policies have been rejected by the American People but he doesnt want to hear that. Dickerson gun control question, donald trump has suggested getting rid of gun free zones in schools and military bases would you agree with that . Ive said this before for attacks earlier in tennessee. That it seems ridiculous that military folks can carry a weapon with them. Theyre trained to do it. The best trained people. I would certainly be in favor of our military folks being able to carry weapons in those circumstances. On the Gun Free School zones they should be able to look on its own. Dickerson your record on assault weapons. When we last talked you said that originally you wanted to those who wanted to get rid of it. In 2009 you were still supporter of the assault weapons ban that prosecutor. What i said at the time that i was not interested in debating or changing because i knew i couldnt new jerseys gun laws for democratic legislature. Of if i had my choice apply much more easily and received much more easily carry permit in our state. We should be a state to defend dickerson within youre in that race with john in 2009, he said christie stands with the nra your pam campaign put out fact check called that a lie. Then your Campaign Said this, Chris Christie supports assault weapons ban and all current gun laws. He opposes attempts to permit conceal and carry laws in new jersey. Hardly the nra position. That seems different. It is. Again, john, you learn about these things over time. I learned about this over tomb. In new jersey i have grown up in a culture in our state of very, very vigorous antigun laws. I travel the country as a governor ive learned great deal about this. My actions as governor of new jersey had been exactly where i think they need to be. These things involve Public Safety, im for Public Safety if the laws are going to make legislative and governors feel better they shouldnt be put in place and infringe second amend med rights its revolution over dickerson would you say you stand with the nra . I stand with anybody who believes in protecting the Second Amendment and protecting Public Safety whether its the nra or other organizations like new Jersey Pistol Club or others i stand with organizations who want to make sense between Public Safety and our Second Amendment rights. Dickerson just going back to that, you stand with the nra . Well, the fact is, that if the nra but on issues, you take them down issue by issue ill be able to answer. Im not going to say i stand with any particular with a blank check thats not what leadership is. Dickerson you are is ted cruz legally eligible to be president in your view . It appears to me he is. Dickerson you gave speech this week saying that you understand voters are angry, but that its time for them to pick a president that they shouldnt just pick somebody out of anger. Thats not what i said. Solution to our nations problems. We have to channel thatting a beer a place where we pick someone who can actually fix the problems that are making us angry. And so part of the speech was calling our Republican Party to our similarities and to stop emphasizing our differences. That we need to bring ourselves together in order to beat hillary clinton. Every time we divide ourselves we make it easier for her to defeat our nominee. Dickerson show time is over but you put on pretty good show. Game time is on now. Now has to perform. Show time is a time where everybody gets to judge you and look and your prancing around the stage. Dickerson the competition has gotten tougher between you and some of your rivals. You said marco rubio trying to slime his way to the white house. When super pac running ad said, that you supported common core you once supported assault weapons ban that you donated to planned parenthood. Which one of those is wrong . Parenthood thats wrong. Secondly, for him to be trying to characterize my conservative record in that way is contrary to what marco said. Marco himself has said that i was conservative reformer in new jersey. Here is the thing, im not going to spend my time talking about marco rubio. If marco wants to think that this is guy who stood up, on debate, someone told you that by criticizing me it helps you. That same someone now talking to marco. Im not going to fall for. That you saw my response to marco. I talked about him, fact is focus on defeating hillary clinton. Im happy to stand by my record of having made decisions. Dickerson just on planned parenthood never donated or supported. No. J governor christie, thanks very much. Thanks, john. Dickerson clarification. Marco rubio has said chris kiss tee donated to planned super pacs ad. Well be back in one minute with House Speaker paul ryan. You. Right down to your skin. Aveeno daily moisturizing lotion with 5 vital nutrients for healthier looking skin in just one day. Aveeno. Dickerson gathered in columbia, South Carolina, yesterday at a poverty summit hosted by House Speaker paul ryan. We sat down with the speaker afterwards to discuss that issue as well as the president s action on guns and his veto of a bill to repeal obamacare. Mr. Speaker, when president obama announced expanding background checks, he said, i respect the Second Amendment and gub ownership. Then you said, quote, he had never respected that right so do you think hes not telling the truth . I think hed like to go whole lot farther than he is going right now. Point number two, there isnt a loophole if you are in the business of buying and selling guns you have to have federal firearms license. If you have a federal firearms license you have to do background checks. So, i think this is basically because these socalled about they would not have stopped any of these shootings. Dickerson did you think he respects the Second Amendment . , no i actually dont. I think he would like to go much fur that you are than what the second amountment allows. Dickerson you want republicans to offer an alternative to the president , one of the first things did you this year was offer that repeal. How is that an alternative . Its not. Thats why we had to come up with an alternative. Youre right about that. Dickerson will do you that . I dont know how far it will go given the fact that we have filibuster and guy named obama. But my goal is that we as republicans if we dont like these laws, dont like the direction the country is going, i think we have to be more than just opposition party. We have to be a proposition party. If we dont like this we ha to have show how well do things differently. We think obama fair is failing, whether its premiums, restricted access, higher deductible, families losing insurance that they want and the country. People are hurting and we need to offer a solution. Yes, yes, this and many other issues we need to offer alternatives. Dickerson you want to help define Republican Party theres going to be nominee of the party wont they be the one who kind of is the face of the Republican Party . They will be the face in the fall. We dont have time to wait until the fall. I learned this in 2012 with milt myth romney if you wait until late summer roll out what you believe in what your agenda is its too late. Thats why were going to go early. One of the reasons we did this poverty summit today here in columbia, South Carolina, is we want to showcase our principles, our ideas, we want to show that we have better ideas for getting people out of poverty, root causes of poverty for getting opportunity restored in america. Dickerson also night i was at a donald trump rally in rock hill, South Carolina, there were 7,000 people. The crowd reaction was very loud on the following thing. Asian trade deal which you support. His opposition to last years budget at the end of the year budget which you support. His opposition to undocumented workers having any pathway to legal status or citizenship. And also to any tinkering with entitlement. Crowd didnt just clap politely. How does Republican Party get together when you have set of ideas that are totally opposite to those people. I think what we do as leaders, as we say who we are, what we believe, where we want to lead. And let the people decide. Thats the way i see this thing. I really think the country is in a bad path, a dangerous path. I think we can lose what so unique about our country. This american idea, the condition of your birth doesnt determine the outcome of your life. We belief in growth and prosperity and security. All those things are in real deep jeopardy. So, do i agree or disagree with various candidates on various issues, of course i do. But can we offer the country a really clear and compelling choice, its not divisive but inclusive, thats inspirational, thats pro growth. I think we can do that. Dickerson does the campaign makes it harder . This is primary season. Whats happen can right now are trying to distinguish themselves from the same party, from over same voters. Primaries inevitably have this kind of friction, once you get to the primary i think we unify conservative movement. We unify as a cause. We go out and we try to win converts. We try to get the country a clear choice. Dickerson will you support donald trump if he of course i will. Dickerson and ted cruz if hes the nominee . Youre here in South Carolina to deal with poverty and opportunity. There was time in is the 67 the ghettos. I traveled with jack kemp in 1996 when he went to all these hard hit neighborhoods. Why doesnt ha happen in campaigns any more . Three years. Dickerson president ial campaigns. Its really good question. I think we need to do that. Its a mistake thats been made. I think thats exactly right. We have got to go and compete for the minds and hearts and votes of everybody in this country no matter who they are. And what i think weve had one party takes group of people for granted and another party has not paid attention to them. Thats exactly why were having this summit here, hosted by the Jack Kemp Foundation who is guy who taught me this about upper mobility, fighting poverty and restoring opportunity, so, yes, i think our president ial candidates need to do this. One thing i havent done like i wanted to in 2012. Dickerson the appreciate thursday kept from you doing it in 2012 do they still exist . Yes, resist that pressure. Typically what the consultants tell you, this is where our voters are, this is the counties that we have to maximize turn out go there. Then go there. You go there. You go there. This is national election. Highest in our generation. And Everybody Needs to be involved in this election, we need to go and compete for the hearts and minds of the votes of everybody no matter if we get 2 of the vote, we should be there showing that our ideas are better. Our conversation with the speaker in our next half hour. Oh really . 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Dickerson some of our cbs stations are leaving us now but for most of you well be right back with a lot more face the nation including our interview with rand paul and speaker ryan and our panel. Stay with us. Marco rubio thinks its unfair to criticize him for missing votes. But i am going to miss votes, im running for president. But hes been missing votes for a long time. One third of all of his missed votes in 2015 were missed before he announced he was running for president. Over the last three years, marco rubio has missed more votes. Than any other senator. Doesnt show up for work, but wants a promotion . Right to rise usa is responsible for the content of this message. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its sharyl hello, im sharyl attkisson. Welcome to full measure. Today, new information about what may be the most confounding mystery surrounding the benghazi controversy why no outside u. S. Military help came to the rescue as terrorists battered two compounds and the americans inside over nearly eight hours. Four americans were killed, including ambassador Chris Stevens and diplomat sean smith, along with glen doherty and ty woods, both former navy seals. In recent days, the House Benghazi Committee heard from key figures in closedoor testimony. David petraeus and former defense secretary leon panetta. Hear from a third official that few have probably heard of nse department chief of staff, whose email happens to be central to our report t its an email he sent from the