Has been targeted by police after posting the alton sterling video online. Chris leday says Police Detained at a u. S. Air force base and let him away in shackles. Then to new york where two years ago this week eric garner died in Staten Island after officers wrestled him to the ground, pinned him down, and applied a fatal chokehold. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. Backup. Amy the man who filmed the Police Killing of eric garner, ramsey orta, is now heading to jail for four years on unrelated charges making him the only person at the scene of garners killing who will serve jail time. We will speak to garners daughter erica and Rolling Stone reporter matt taibbi. We will also talk about Bernie Sanders endorsement of Hillary Clinton. All that and more, coming up. Welcome to from pacifica, this is democracy now president obama has called for unity while speaking in dallas at a memorial for five Police Officers killed by a sniper thursday evening. The shooter, micah xavier johnson, opened fire at the end of an antiPolice Brutality march, killing five officers, and wounding at least 7 more. Johnson was an army veteran who served in afghanistan in 2014. A female soldier accused him of sexual harassment, took out a restraining order, he was sent back to the u. S. By the army. Speaking tuesday, president obama acknowledged Racial Discrimination exists within Police Departments. President obama perhaps we have heard prejudice in our own heads and felt that in our own hearts. We know that. And well some suffer far more , some feelms burden to a greater extent discriminations sting. Although most of us do our best to guard against it and teach our children better, none of us is entirely innocent. No institution is entirely immune. And that includes our Police Departments. We know this. Amy president obama will meet today in washington dc with Law Enforcement officials and civil rights leaders, as daily demonstrations against Police Brutality continue across the country. Meanwhile, the Los Angeles Police commission has ruled officers did not violate the departments policy on the use of deadly force when they shot an African American woman last year. Police have claimed redell jones was armed with a knife and had charged a Police Officer. But at least one witness said jones had her back turned to police when she was shot. After the commissions announcement, protesters called for the resignation of the citys police chief during a demonstration inside city hall. Black lives, they matter now. Black lives they matter now. Black lives, they matter here. Say our name. They will not be fired, they will not be moved, nothing will happen to them. They keep coming here, they keep asking us to have a dialogue with us. We have been having a dialogue with them for 11 months around redell jones. We have been saying, give us justice, do something different. Amy the protest in los angeles comes amid nationwide protests over the Fatal Police Shootings of africanamerican men, alton sterling in baton rouge, louisiana, and Philando Castile, in falcon heights, minnesota. Well have more on the killing of alton sterling with Abdullah Muflahi, the triple S Convenience store owner who filmed his death, and with chris leday, who posted the video of the Police Shooting of alton sterling on social media and helped it go viral, after headlines. Both have been detained by police. In news from the campaign trail, democratic president ial candidate Bernie Sanders has endorsed former secretary of state Hillary Clinton as the democratic partys president ial nominee, while speaking tuesday in portsmouth, new hampshire. Senator sanders she will be the democratic nominee for president. I intend to do everything i can to make certain she will be the next president of the united states. Amy sanderss supporters have fought in recent weeks to have initiatives the senator championed in his campaign for the nomination added to the democratic platform. But both candidates said that with the election less than four months away, the most important thing was to unify the party around defeating Presumptive Republican president ial nominee donald trump. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has issued a scathing assessment of a potential donald trump presidency, calling trump a faker and saying i cant imagine what the country would be with donald trump as our president. She went on, how has he gotten away with not turning over his tax returns . The press seems to be very gentle with him on that. It is unusual for a sitting supreme Court Justice to speak out on president ial candidates, but ginsburg has recently made ontherecord remarks to several news organizations. Trump responded by calling on ginsburg to resign, tweeting, her mind is shot. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is not the only judge donald trump has recently tangled with. The republican president ial candidate is a prolific litigator. Donald trump and his companies have launched 1900 lawsuits since 1970. Since he has become the president ial campaign, he has become involved in 70 new lawsuit. The republican partys platform may include the entirety of a bill that prevents federal funds from being used for abortions. The party will ratify the platform at their convention in cleveland next week. It also includes support for a plan to build a wall on the beico border and a plan to antigay marriage also includes a rejection of samesex marriage. Meanwhile, Pulitzer Prizewinning historian David Mccullough and awardwinning filmmaker ken burns have teamed up to launch the Group Historians on donald trump. The Facebook Page includes a series of prominent historians speaking about the dangers of a trump presidency. This is mccullough. So much of what donald trump spouts is bolder. He is unwise, plainly unprepared, unqualified, and he often seems unhinged. How can we possibly put our future in the hands of such a man . Amy that is historian David Mccullough, speaking about donald trump. The twotime Pulitzer Prize winner for the biographies truman and john adams has historically refused to comment on contemporary election cycles, saying his specialty is dead politicians. Other historians involved in the group include ron chernow, whose Pulitzer Prizewinning biography hamilton served as inspiration for the hit musical, David Levering lewis, biographer of w. E. B. Dubois, and vicki lynn ruiz, former president of the american historical association. In britain, theresa may is becoming the Prime Minister today, as David Cameron tenders his resignation at buckingham palace. This comes less than a month after britain shocked the world by voting to leave the European Union a move strongly opposed by cameron. He announced within hours of the referendum that he would resign by october, although it had been expected he would stay in power at least through the summer. Theresa may becomes only the second woman to serve as Prime Minister in british history. She has served as the home secretary since 2010. As a parliament member, she supported the war in iraq, and she voted to deploy british troops to afghanistan, libya, iraq, and syria. This past may, she voted in favor of repealing britains human rights act. She has, however, worked to fight Police Corruption and has challenged the british polices stop and search policies which is similar to stop and frisk in the united states. Meanwhile, Labor Party Leader Jeremy Corbyn has been assured of a place on the ballot in Upcoming Party leadership elections after surviving a coup waged by more conservative members of the labor party. The Chinese Government has rejected an International Court ruling on its dispute with the philippines over territory in the South China Sea. The South China Sea is one of the busiest trade routes in the world and also contains Significant Oil and gas reserves. The filipino government had asked the International Court of arbitration to take up the issue after complaining the Chinese Government was preventing filipino fishermen from working near a chain of islands claimed by both countries. Amnesty international has accused the Egyptian Government of making enforced disappearances an instrument of state policy. The report focuses on 17 cases in which prisoners were held incommunicado for as long as seven months. The Egyptian Government has jailed more than 30,000 people for political activism since 2013, when the government of democratically elected president Mohammed Morsi was overthrown a military coup. The report says that forced disappearances have increased in the last year. The u. S. Briefly put military aid to egpyt on hold after the coup, but has since resumed its support for the government there. And, in new haven, connecticut, and africanamerican dishwasher has lost his job at Yale University after he intentionally smashed a stainedglass panel that depicted enslaved africans carrying bales of cotton. Corey menafee worked at yales residential dorm calhoun college. He says he used a broomstick to knock the panel to the floor a month ago because the image was racist, very degrading. He said, its 2016; i shouldnt have to come to work and see things like that. Calhoun college is named after former Vice President john c. Calhoun, one of the most prominent proslavery figures in history. Students have demanded the building costs name be changed. And those are some of the headlines. Democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. Juan im juan gonzalez. On tuesday, president obama spoke in dallas at a Memorial Service for the five dallas Police Officers killed by sniper. The shooter, micah xavier johnson, opened fire at the end of an antiPolice Brutality march, killing five officers, and wounding at least 7 more. Obama urged the nation to reject despair saying the country is not as divided as it may seem. President obama i know that americans are struggling with what we have witnessed over the past week. First, the shootings in minnesota and baton rouge, the targeting ofn the police by the shooter here. D active demented violence and racial hatred. Angry us are wounded and and hurt. It is as if the defense fall lines of our democracy have suddenly been exposed, perhaps even widened. Juan for the past week protests against Police Violence have spread across the country. Tens of thousands have taken to the streets. Hundreds have been arrested. The protests began in the wake of the fatal Police Killings of alton sterling in baton rouge, louisiana, and Philando Castile in falcon heights, minnesota. Today, we look at a side of the baton rouge story that has received little attention what has happened to the individuals who filmed and distributed the shocking videos of Alton Sterlings death. The videos show a Baton Rouge Police officer pinning sterling to the ground outside a convenience store, then pointing a gun at his chest and opening fire. A warning to our Television Audience this video is graphic. Hes got a gun [indiscernible] [gunshots] [screaming] get on the ground [gunshots] [indiscernible] what did you do that for, man . Shots fired. Shots fired. Amy that video was filmed by Abdullah Muflahi owner of the triple S Convenience store where sterling died. He recorded it on his cell phone. Muflahi has since filed a lawsuit against the city of baton rouge, the baton rouge city police, and four of its officers. The lawsuit alleges the police took his phone, locked him for hours in a police car, and seized his Security Camera footage without a warrant. The lawsuit also contends muflahi was prevented from making a phone call to his family or an attorney. He is seeking damages for false imprisonment and the illegal taking of his property as well as for release of his stores Security Camera footage. Activists say this fits a pattern of police retaliation against people who dare to film police misconduct. In new york city, ramsey orta, who filmed the Police Killing of eric garner, is slated to go to jail for four years on unrelated charges making him the only person at the scene of eric garners killing who will serve jail time. We speak to eric garners daughter later in the show. Right now, joining us from baton ,ouge, is Abdullah Muflahi along with his lawyer, joel porter. We welcome you both. Explain what happened on that fateful day when alton sterling was shot dead by the police. Where were you, what did you see . It looks like we may have just lost the satellite connection to baton rouge, but we have it back. If you can explain what you saw. Abdullah by the time i got out the store, they were already slamming him on top of the car. Him. Were tasering that is when another officer ran and tackled him onto an suv and then both cops slammed him on the floor. Amy did you have your cell phone out at this time . Abdullah when they slammed him on the floor, that is when i pulled it out and started recording. Juan what happened subsequent to that as you were recording . Abdullah im sorry . Juan what happened after you started recording . Abdullah that is when one of the officers screamed out, gun and opened fire on him. Juan at what point did they become aware that you were there and move toward you . Abdullah after the shooting. , one they had killed him of the officers got up and grabbed me. When back up had arrived, he grabbed me and pushed me toward another officer and told him to put me in the back of a car. Amy what was your reaction to what you were filming . I know it happened very quickly, but as you are filming, seeing the officers on top of alton sterling and then shooting him. Abdullah i was in shock. I did not know if it was real or if i was in a nightmare. I did not know what was going on. Acquaintance of yours, wasnt he . The victim . Abdullah yes. Juan could you tell us how you knew him . Abdullah well, when i first moved to down to baton rouge, he was in front of the store that i first started working at. That is how me and him actually met. Amy do you on the store now . Abdullah this is a different store from when i met him and yes. Amy now he was selling cds in front of the store, the triple s, where the police . Abdullah yes. Amy what happens to you then . What did you hear the officers say and what happened to you after alton sterling was killed . Abdullah well, after the shooting, one of the officers that was there, im not sure what he said, but the other officer close to me had said, him, just let him lay there. Talking about mr. Sterling. Amy you heard an officer say eff him, just let him lay there . Using a curse . Abdullah yes. Juan at some point, while they had you in the car, they went into grabbed the store video . Could you explain what happened there . First, theyll, at asked me if they can copy the surveillance. I told them i would like to be present if they were going to go in. They told me that it was not possible and that i could not watch the footage because im a witness. They went inside my store anyway and when they came back, i had knocked on the window and told one of the officers to tell them that i did not want them inside my store without me being present. That is when they came me and told me that they were going to go get a search warrant and just take the surveillance camera. Amy did they get the warrant . Abdullah i was never presented with a warrant at all. Amy where were you taken . How long were you held . They took your cell phone, but you got it back. Did you post that video online that we watched . Abdullah me and my lawyer ended up taking it to a tv channel, a news channel, and gave it to them. Porter, you are his attorney. Could you summarize your complaint, your legal complaint, and how you feel the officers violated his rights here . Joel they violated his rights in many ways. First of all, he was only an innocent person, a person who witnessed a horrible killing. He was illegally detained for six hours. Hot back of a police car. He was not permitted to go to the bathroom. When he asked to go to the bathroom, he was escorted to the side of a building, where he was forced to use the bathroom in the publics site. He was not allowed to go back inside of the building, his business was commandeered for at least six hours. He was taken down to Police Headquarters where he was once again detained illegally for two hours behind closed doors. This is not the kind of activity in how a Police Officer should treat innocent people in society. He is an innocent victim. My client believed that those responsible, baton rouge city police, should be held responsible for illegally detaining him, for illegally commandeering and seizing his building, and the security equipment out of his building. He just wants them to be held accountable. He wants america to know how he was treated. He wants somebody to be held responsible. Did not. Porter, they merely copy the surveillance video, they confiscated it, right . Joel they confiscated the entire security system. Amy the camera and the video . Joel without a warrant. They took the video footage and the equipment. What they did, they swooped down in an effort to control the evidence, in an effort to control the witness, in an effort to control the narrative, they swooped down to grab the witnesses, the grabbed my client, they grabbed the cell phone. They seized them and that was once again in an effort to control the narrative of what happened. They did not know that he had taped the killing and had they known that, he never would have gotten his cell phone back. We felt that it was important that america see the violence that black males face in this society. Amy the Authorities Say they handed it over to the Justice Department, which has taken over the investigation here. What about that . It is my understanding that doj is involved. They are having conversations with the f dei. I know they are involved. It has been turned over. Amy can you, Abdullah Muflahi, as we show the video, take us through what you are filming . Youve got these two officers. You came out when alton sterling was on the ground. Is that right . Out imo, i came sorry, i came out while he was hood slammed on top of a of the car. Amy why did they say they were doing this to him . Sayllah they did not anything. I did not even know. He did not even know what was going on. He was confuse the whole time. He was asking, what did i do wrong . Juan when you say that he was on the hood of the car, you are saying they already tasered him before he went down to the ground in the video that we see . Abdullah yes. Tasered him after they slammed them on top of the hood. They backed up off of him and tasered him. That is when the other cop ran and tackled him. Amy was alton sterling saying anything . Abdullah he was telling them, what did i do wrong . He was pretty confused. He did not know what was going on, why they were there or what happened to even have them out there in the first place. Juan and the shooting that we see in the video, were those the only shots the police fired . Abdullah yes. Six shots they had fired. Amy we are going to break and when we come back, we will also be joined by a man from atlanta, georgia, who posted video online of this very same shooting. Abdullah muflahis video and the video posted by this man are the two we have seen of Alton Sterlings death. We will be joined by chris leday in addition to Abdullah Muflahi and his attorney. He posted it, he was shackled on a military base where he worked, and held for more than a day. Stay with us. [music break] amy one hot night on democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. With juan gonzalez. Juan protests have spread across the country. Tens of thousands have spread across the country. Today, we are looking at a side of the baton rouge story that has received little attention, what happened to the individuals who filmed and distributed the shocking videos of sterlings death . ,my we turn now to chris leday who posted online the first video that went viral. He obtained the video from a friend of a friend. He showed the video with 10,000 followers on facebook, twitter, and instagram. Soon after it went viral, he said he was detained at his job. Police then let h from his job in shackles. He was released after paying 1200 in traffic fines. He now feels his job is in jeopardy. He is joining us in atlanta. Welcome. Explain what happened. How you got the videotape of the Police Killing of alton sterling and what happened after you posted it. Chris thank you for having me, first of all. Originally, im from baton rouge. That is why this hits close to home. I just live in atlanta. I received the video from a girl who knew the young lady who shot the video. , ing that i have a platform knew we could put it on to try to make it go viral. That was the main goal for me from the jump. Louisiana, wen always have a high public corruption rate. We have the highest prison right person had in the world per head in the world. It shows how they always try to keep us in prison. When i got the video, the main thing i wanted to do was put it out there because it was a coldblooded case of murder, clearcut. I wanted to put that on display so these cops could stop getting away with this type of ordeal. Juan when you said you posted it because of the platform that you have, how have you amassed this significant following on various social media . Musician and a leader in the community. I hope a lot of other musicians that are popular now a mass success with their careers, as well. That is how i gained my following. Strictly through business and a lot of the work i have done in the area. Video,fter posting the tell us what happened to you. Back ias coming was in new orleans the night that the shooting happened. The very next day when i received the video, i was headed back to atlanta that day to go to work. When i come into work, the protocol is i dont have an official badge yet, because ive been at the job about a month. The jobless so flexible, i was able to work the job was so flexible, i was able to work when i wanted to, which was one of the key factors of me taking the job. If you dont have the paper that gets you on and off the base, all you have to do is show your id and you call the person from the job to come up front and escort you want, which i did. That they were taking a long time with my identification. As time passed, i saw my coworkers come up front to the gate and they would not let him come near me. They kept him about 4050 feet away from me. What wasied to ask going on, they asked me to stand in a certain area. Literally, im confused as to why it is taking them so long to get on base. Im trying to go to work. Minutes, i 30 decided that i seal these extra cops coming up, there are more cops coming up, so i decided to take action in my own hands and i put it on facebook. I tagged my mother and my father and i let them know. I said, im surrounded by cops right now, city and military. Know that if you anything happens, im not resisting. Basically letting them know that i was being cooperative because these days, you cant really trust the cops, point blank, i did not know what was going to happen next. I asked the cop, i said, and my being detained . He said, yes. I said, for what . He said, we will let you know shortly. Which is illegal to be detained without being let no what is going on. They come back several minutes aner and tell me that i have open warrant for assault and and somebodys reading me my rights and putting my caps on. I stayed calm because im six foot 370 pounds. I did not want to give them a reason to put their hands on me aside from putting the cuffs on me. I kind of just chuckled and said, ive never been arrested a day in my life. It was a shock to me. Amy then what happened . Is well, they escorted me the air force base did not have an official jail cell, so they took me to the headquarters and put me in there for an hour and a half. Im questioning them about this charge and they know little to nothing about how this charge came about. That i told me earlier fit the description. That was as vague as he was. That fit the description. Im like, the description of what . They never said what i fit the description of. They told me it was eventually about the case that i had for assault and battery, which ive never been arrested for in my life. Amy are you still in shackles . Chris not yet. At this point, im just in handcuffs. They wait for the police to show up. The dumb woodie cop shows up and he has all of my charges on paperwork, on his paperwork. I just so happened to look over my shoulder and look down at the paperwork and i see that there is no aggravated assault and battery on there, it is only traffic tickets that i had from a couple of to of years ago that needed to be paid. I asked about the assault and battery charge. I said, what happened to it . They simply said, i guess not. They left it at that. The cop then decides to take it a step further. He asks me to see my legs. I am wondering why he wants to see my legs. He puts shackles on my legs to escort me from the military base to the prison. Before i walk out the door, i said, i looked at the cop who is in charge, which was a black man and i said, really, brother . 2016 and you are allowing us to get shackled . The guy put his head down. He shook his head. He escorted me to jail. Juan so, they came to a military base, arrested you, shackled you, and it was all over traffic tickets . Soon after you posted this video. Chris yes, sir. The crazy thing is, an Investigative Reporter called me last night and he said he called the police to get down to the bottom of it and dobbins said that they were looking for me and they told them that they attached by name to the base and they knew i was coming to work that day, so when they came, they should hold me. The police told the Investigative Reporter that they were never looking for me. It was just a case which was strange to me because when it is a traffic situation, if they catch you in traffic and you just so happen to run your name, that is a different story. Nobody sets up a sting operation to detain somebody for traffic tickets. That is the thing im trying to make people realize. Amy did they ever mention to you the video that you posted online . Chris they never did mention it. However, the county told me i was not able to they said i had no bond. About it. Very adamant customarily, you get to see a judge the next day for things of that nature. They told me i would have to wait until next wednesday, which would have been a full seven days away to see a judge for this case. Amy so what happened . My sons mother, her mom is a lawyer, she called around to get to the bottom of it. They just wanted the 1200 i owe them in traffic fines, to send the paperwork over to release me. The county was pretty adamant about saying i still did not have a bond. Essentially, they dressed me out , they put me in an orange jumpsuit, they assigned me to my own cell with a cellmate, they fully processed me for something i should have been able to pay and get out of jail for. They ended up fully processing me and im just playing the waiting game. Theyt waited until luckily sent the proper paperwork through and they ended up letting me go. They never said anything else about the assault and battery charge. They never said anything about any of the other matters that took place. Amy have you gone back to work on the military base . Chris my job is still at the near. It is contingent upon the same people who arrested me, for them to clear me to be able to come back on the base. When i spoke to my supervisor the following day, they do a strict background check, a security clearance, you have to have a security clearance to be evil to work around these military planes. To be able to work about these military planes. He said, we figured you knew better than to admit prior information. I was like, exactly. I would not omit information of that magnitude. I would never leave that off if i had an assault and battery charge. My supervisor said, we were not even worried about traffic tickets. That would not have affected your job in the first place. Amy you served in the military . Chris yes, maam. I was in the u. S. Air force. So, are you sorry you posted a video of the Police Killing of alton sterling . Chris not at all. Because the main thing i wanted to do was try to help the Sterling Family get justice and use my platform to put these cops on display. I think it was an atrocity and they handled it wrong. It was a clearcut case of murder, in my opinion, even though i am not an expert. I saw his son crying on television. That really broke my heart. I have three children. Im very active in their life. Specifically, i have two boys. Being black men in this country, especially in louisiana, it feels like it is almost illegal to be black and it broke my heart to see him crying for his father who he will never see again, all due to negligent police behavior. Something has to be done about it. Amy i wanted to turn to that moment when Alton Sterlings family addressed the media. This is the mother of sterlings son cameron, who is 15. Cameron is the child. At the beginning of the press conference, he consoled his mother and then he broke down into the arms of supporters standing behind the two of them. The individuals involved in his murder took away a man with children, who depended upon. Heir daddy on a daily basis my son is not the youngest. He is the oldest of his siblings. He is 15 years old. This as it was and everything that was possible to be shown. Amy that is cameron, the 15yearold son of alton sterling, crying at the News Conference next to his mother. I wanted to get your thoughts, chris, and then Abdullah Muflahi , who knew alton and the family. My thoughts on just hearing that audio clip, ill most cry just now, you know. I cannot imagine not being able to come home to my kids. Those was sitting in jail 26 hours, my boys had to stay with my daughters mom from a previous relationship. All the kept saying was, i just want my dad. And im sitting in jail for something i didnt do, basically exposing the underhanded nests of the baton rouge cops. And the murder they just committed on camera. They need to be held accountable for it and we see what they have done. In batonllah muflahi rouge, how long did you know alton sterling for . Did you know his family . Did you know his son . Ive known him for six years. Yes, i knew his son. His son was at the store with him a few weeks ago on his dads birthday. He cannot with his dad. After they he came out with his dad. After they left the store, they went to the movies together. Joel you also need to be aware mr. Abdullah muflahi has received death threats, negative hate. We need to get behind mr. Abdullah muflahi, we need to protect him. He is only an innocent victim in this matter and yet he is being held responsible for what baton rouge city Police Officers did. Juan has there been any reaction or communication between Baton Rouge Police department and yourself since your client was first grabbed and then released . Joel none, whatsoever. Amy Abdullah Muflahi, do you you were right in making sure that the video that you took got out and was seen by giving it to a tv station . Abdullah certainly, definitely. Amy well, i want to thank you all for being with us. We will continue to follow what is happening with the family of alton sterling, with the protests taking place in baton rouge, and in both of your cases, Abdullah Muflahi, who owns the triple s Convenient Store outside of which Police Killed alton sterling, and chris leday, in atlanta, who got the second video online to show the Police Killing of alton sterling. Thank you so much for being with us, as well as joel porter. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. When we come back, it has been two years since eric garner was in a choke hold in Staten Island. We will be joined by his daughter erica, as well as the Rolling Stone reporter matt to taibi. [music break] amy the words of eric garner over john cole trains alabama. Democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. With juan gonzalez. Juan two years ago, eric garner died after officers pinned him to the ground and applied a fatal chokehold. Put your handbehind your head. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. Once again, Police Beating up on people. Backup. Juan the man who filmed the Police Killing of eric garner, ramsey orta, is heading to jail on unrelated charges, making him the only person at the scene of the killing who will serve jail time. Last week, he typically deal on weapons and drug charges. He said he has been repeatedly arrested and harassed since he filmed the fatal chokehold nearly two years ago. Amy the death spurred protests over the new york Police Departments use of Excessive Force and cracking down on lowlevel offenses. Aic garners family reached 5. 9 million settlement last july. To talk more about where the case stands today and the fact that ramsey orta will be going to jail and also Bernie Sander concession to Hillary Clinton, daughter. Ers we are also joined by matt taibi , working on a book on eric case, the author of a number of books, including the divide. Im so sorry, erica, to see video after video of Police Killing culminating and once again seeing the video of your father gasping and saying, i cant breathe. You have been speaking out publicly about this. You have not stopped. I protested. Ive exhausted all avenues. I even endorsed Bernie Sanders to get my message out. We keep having the conversation i exhausted for two years. How much talking do we need to have . ,he black lives Matter Movement very compassionate, patient, begging the nation. We are being attacked as black people, we are being gunned down every day and these officers are not being held accountable. No charges from tamir rice to my dad to freddie gray. To theour reaction events last week. Two more incidents. Erica all im hearing is conversation. We need legislation put in place. We need a special prosecutor. They are just now using a special prosecutor for a guy last week named delroy smalls. That was the undercover Police Officer who shot a black man. Amy this was the offduty Police Officer who shot delron smalls. Erica yes. We need some type of legislation put in place. We need a special prosecutor. Governor cuomo put that as an executive order temporarily after my father passed away and no one is talking about it. O one is trying to make it amy the reason we know exactly what happened in your fathers death because of that videotape. The man who filmed the police can deal video of your father, ramsey orta, is headed to jail for four years on unrelated charges. Last week, he took a plea deal on weapons and drug charges. He has said he has been repeatedly arrested and harassed by police. Earlier this year, he came to democracy now ramsey clearly, that was the first thing that came out of his mouth. We filmed it. He said, do you have your cameras out . We had the phones instead of the guns or anything. I asked, why is he filling me . He said, because you filmed us. Amy that is ramsey orta speaking on democracynow the significance of what he did. At a Memorial Service that was held, there is actual applause during the service for one man, for ramsey orta, who was sitting in the audience. Erica it showed the courage to do it and also he told the whole world, he showed the whole world what exactly went on. If there was no video, we would not know how he was killed. We dont have that from the Police Department. We dont have transparency. A new body cameras would be a bad idea if it was not federal legislation or some type of thing that says, if you mess with this camera, if you turn it off, or if anything goes wrong, you will be held accountable. Now, you are hearing cases like the camera fell off, like in the alton sterling case. It is basically our word against theirs. I wanted to bring you in. You have been doing research consistently on the eric garner case. This whole issue, as we have seen, in the alton sterling case, where somebody does do independent filming and they are confiscated, meanwhile, the Police Cameras falloff. The importance of these cameras and the battle over cameras. Matt it is critically important that citizens make these recordings. I think the eric garner case plays a classic example of why this is necessary. Reports later surfaced that the official Police Report later that evening left out the fact that a chokehold had been used. Had there been no film of what happened, we might never have heard of this case. It would have gone down, probably, as an accident that took place where a person who is in bad health simply gave out in the middle of a routine arrest. Have the video, we saw exactly what happened. It is critically important that people make these videos. Ishink what is going on now that now everybody has cell phones and people are seeing how common this is. Can you talk about what is happening now with the federal investigation . The Police Officer in the case was not charged. You did have a lawsuit, the family had a lawsuit that was settled for 5. 9 million. But the federal investigation, what is that . This is two years now. Erica yes. It is like the doj is dragging their feet. A couple of months ago, i sat on a Civil Liberties panel and i ,indly asked Robert Menendez what is taking so long . How come the family did not get no answers on my fathers case . They told me they would answer my question soon. Here we are almost to the twoyear anniversary and i see how tocle out about federal prosecutors in brooklyn and prosecutors from washington are fighting over whether or not there is enough evidence to go on. The brooklyn side is saying, we dont have enough evidence. The people from washington are saying, we do, we want to push forward. It is up to Loretta Lynch to make the decision. Even some of the basic information two years later is not out. For instance, the past record of the officer involved, in terms of his Excessive Force decisions in previous cases. What is happening . Erica i put in countless foia requests. The response i get was letters underneath my door or males from the nypd telling me i have to ask the officer for permission to look at his records. What im asking for is unwarranted, they say. What could be more warranted than his daughter asking about what complaints was made against this man . Amy matt, if you could talk more about this in this major piece the times did about this battle that is going on within the Justice Department about whether to even continue with this investigation in the eric garner death. Matt if i could follow up quickly on this issue of the personnel records. This is been a fight that has been going on for two years. The Legal Aid Society filed suit and actually got a judge to order the civilian complaint to disclose very limited information about how many substantiated abuse complaints there were in his file. The city could have just released the information, but they chose to appeal and they are fighting this basically to the death. It is now two years and it will probably be three years before this is resolved and the law is not on the civilian side. It says you need the express, written permission of the Police Officer to obtain personnel records. Of the new york civil rights code. It provides extraordinary protection to Police Officers. It is extremely difficult for somebody, even a Family Member of a victim, to get to those records. It is a most impossible. That is one of those things that has played out in this case. Amy erica garner, i wanted to get your response to Bernie Sanders now conceding that Hillary Clinton is the democratic presumptive president ial nominee. You campaigned with Bernie Sanders, he made a tv commercial with you as the subject. Taking on the issue of Police Brutality. What are your thoughts today . How your story, what happened to your dad, the issues you care about, are you also throwing your support to Hillary Clinton . Throw mywill my support toward any president ial nominee that is going to show you what the doj will look like, what they are going to do about the crisis going on in america right now, and that is going to stand behind the chokehold bill. James has been putting that bill in for a while and has not gotten support from anyone. Any elected officials. It is like, right now, every elected official in the house is up for election. , we refuse our vote until they hear our issues. Juan the chokehold bill . Erica it will make it illegal officersthe police to choke anyone. It is a new york Police Department policy, but it is not a law. Amy according to the new york lawsuithe last time a for deadly force was brought against the new york police was in 1998. I want to thank you both for being with us. I want to thank you both for being with us. Erica garner, even on the second anniversary of your fathers death. Our condolences to you and your family. Thanks so much, matt, for being with us and pursuing this case for Rolling Stone and for your book. That does it for our broadcast. After the conventions, we will be broadcasting to our specials every day from cleveland next week and then from the Democratic Convention in philadelphia. I will be doing a convention wrapup at Provincetown Town Hall and in marthas vineyard. Im amy goodman. 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