Is ations beginning with quote heart you bully you punk it takes stock of the power of love while pushing back dislocating its power here the heart and a lover are one in the same just when I think the poem might fall into a tirade of disappointment it surprises me and ends with complete joy one is one by memory pond so heart you bully you punk I'm wrecked I'm shocked if you you still try to rule the world I've got you identified starving locked in a cage you will not leave a life no matter how you hate it pound its walls and thrill its corridors with messages brute spy I trusted you now you real and brawl in your cell but I'm deaf to your rages your greed to go solo your eloquent threats of worse things you knowing me could do you scare me bragging you're a double agent since jailers are prisoners prisoners too think reform make us wine join the rest of us enjoy make and make its test of us. The slowdown is a production of American public in partnership with the Poetry Foundation. You're listening to Q on C.B.C. Radio One Sirius X.M. $116.00 from Public Radio International which goes by P.R.I. . Coming up will remember Rick OK sic the lead singer of the cars we learned Ricco case it died yesterday at 75 the cars had hits in the late seventy's and eighty's songs like just what I needed this one right now. Kind of. Shake it up good times roll but Rick also went on to have a solo career he worked as a producer he produced albums for artists like whole and Guided by Voices and of course the Blue album by a reserve which is one of the. Perfect albums you'll hear some more of Rick OK 6 Music and how the music world is remembering him a little later on in the show. I just keep going here Luke Wilson the actor likes to surprise you a little bit with the roles he takes on he always tries to play characters you wouldn't expect him to play and his new movie is the perfect example now if Luke Wilson's name sounds familiar to you it's probably from comedies like The Royal Tenenbaums or old school but this time Luke Wilson plays a priest in a dramatic film about a grieving family the movie is called guest of honor of the Canadian director Adam agoing and directed it it's an interesting moment for Luke to take on a story about death about mourning because in real life even though he's a he's a funny guy he's just emerging from a pretty massive loss of his own so I sat down with Luke at the Toronto International Film Festival to talk about working with this you know celebrated director of the Canadian Adam a go in but we ended up talking a lot more about family and his family in particular is a pretty big deal Luke Wilson welcome to Q. Thanks for having me on Q. You play Father Greg a priest and guest of honor I'm going to film. Was that what made you want to get on board with this one. Well I mean I'm always looking to do kind of new things and maybe things that aren't. What people might be used to seeing me in. And when I'd read the script I mean of course was familiar with Adam's work and I think just when me and my brothers and friends were getting started in the business I think that's when I 1st I think The Sweet Hereafter was coming out right about then to kind of 9697 and so had always been aware of him and going to his movies and then reading the script I mean for some reason it was just kind of right up my alley and I just love the idea of. Kind of this character that was a food inspector that David Thewlis plays it seemed like kind of a Raymond Carver type character where you know you go to movies when you get used to seeing people play you know a doctor or policeman or a fireman is kind of semi Spider-Men Exactly thank you in these exciting job but then you think about someone that's you know a food inspector and you know living in Los Angeles I'd move there from Dallas Texas and I've never seen grades on the windows of restaurants and I always thought that was so interesting and you know you'd see an A and think all K. Great that's great then you'd see a B. And I think well a B. In school it's not that really that's not a bad grade then for a restaurant it's not a good grade you know it can mean like vermin infestation I love when he takes the meat thermometer and kind of plunges it is sauce Yeah exactly and I didn't really know what also I didn't know what it took for granted just you know they're doing that for me well and yeah I'm sure you have like been through a few kitchens where you think ashes of standing water OK. But you've been and you know you've been around a while is there still stuff to learn did you learn anything new from working with Adam as a draw yeah definitely and yeah you're right I have been around a while now. And I think just maybe the way I started making started making movies just. Time was always such an issue like you know we had to finish the scene in order to get to that scene and we had to make sure to get the scene done before the sun went down otherwise we couldn't get it so that's always been kind of woven into my D.N.A. As an actor as I've always kind of felt like very aware of schedule and kind of being in a hurry and you know not in a good way but that was one great thing about Adam was. He kind of slowed me down and you know we would have you know a set and it would be lit and we'd be ready to shoot and you know he would sit down and start kind of having a very calm conversation with me and I'd be looking around thinking No yeah I definitely agree with you. May I go we should probably get shooting and then you know I had to kind of make that adjustment really listen and kind of be thoughtful and he wouldn't just give me direction he'd also ask questions and ask kind of my opinion on things and yeah I was definitely a new way to work for me and. After you know a few decades of doing this after trying to do it as quickly as possible. Can we listen to something together. So am I. I don't want to do too much with this stuff but I. Kind of relationship between a father and a child became something that I thought a lot about watching this film so I wanted to play this for you the thing that I was proud of is that the station was a contender for people's attention and respect and it was. Had a tradition of running programs that in many causes parts of the country would not be right and we established a tradition that the the audience could make up its mind and that we didn't feel that we had to be some sort of master censor. Look at what every whatever Here in there son believable that's my dad Wilson talking about working at Channel 13 in Dallas. But cash that's unbelievable to hear and I actually would need to hear it again I was just kind of listening to his ways and I know it was talking about Channel 13 I didn't want to know not at all it's great to hear is voice like that you know because. He just died a couple of years ago and I'm sort of those people that I think about kind of all the time you know it's kind of kidding around with him. Kidding around about him with my brothers he's been a good dude it was a great guy and just I mean I can hear I just know his tone in what you just played me is it's just it's a different tone it's. Just me and kind of thoughtful and kind of talking about is business but yeah I know that was and thank you for playing no sooner just started playing it I was in track that down and I think that time on where I was just that was another thing my mind started just galloping along I was like cash I gotta get a piece of this to light send my brother though you know maybe I'll get a length of look at the after review but yeah it will cost you yeah although it is a public record. It shouldn't be much of a you know what I'll give a tilt back. To you yeah he he works for your A Channel 13 in Dallas and he worked there from about 68 to 77 and he was. The president and he didn't wasn't that experienced and he was hired by this guy Ralph Rogers My dad was from Boston and had moved down out of college and just had kind of a company job and gotten to know this guy Ralph Rogers who was a Dallas philanthropist and also a Bostonian who had hired him and. But in terms of money pile. I thought my dad had this friend Ron De Ville Yeah he was a really funny guy yeah and he had a mani Python album and he's the one who brought you know played my dad the album and they just thought it was unbelievable and then they got money Python actually the troop the guys all of the guys came to Dallas and it was one of those not nights my dad talked about you know to us as a kid you know before I was even aware of it you know that night he went out with these wild guys from England and they went to a restaurant and he would just always say they were the funniest guys he'd ever met in his life and that was really before I you know I didn't know about Life of Brian or yeah there anything about him but yeah it's quite likely do you think that I do want to overthink this too much but and I don't want to to our own horn on public radio because this is public radio right now but listen your dad was in you know he was in the pictures you know like there was obviously ideology or humanism behind that drove him in specifically if it's public broadcasting's frankly it's it's never for the money so I wonder if that impacted you it on terms of your creative choices is there something else that needs to be there. Yeah I mean. It's impacted me in terms of like. I don't. I'm not caught up in having hits I mean it's really fun to work on you know big budget things I just did a D.C. Comic thing and really enjoyed that but then also really enjoy you know I'm about to go work in taxes on a smaller budget movie about these orphans who played football in the 1930 S. And then working on you know how I got my start I feel like is very much in tune with my dad's work let me think well just the film bottle rocket we've made it as a short and actually my dad had kind of helped us get the short made and that he put us in touch with this guy Kit Carson but yeah I definitely think my dad work ethic I still keep in mind he was just a very hardworking guy but he was also very he had real enthusiasm for what he did so the idea of doing something that I didn't care about or wasn't interested and I was just never something that you know appealed to me and of course some projects of felt more of a connection to than others but always the idea of working hard and kind of putting your best foot forward it's definitely something that I got from him I don't want to leave it just to your dad your mom Laura wells and accomplished photographer she's still with us for his thanks and she's going to be 80 next month going to assess my slamming her birthday right now we've lined up a merry band Oh that's that's as far as we've gotten at this point she credits you in your brothers for her career she's quoted saying I had majored in painting in college but with 3 little boys underfoot I didn't have time to lift a paintbrush and a friend gave me a camera I realized at once that the boys were perfect subjects Yeah she that's kind of I mean I always wonder if that's why I feel kind of semi comfortable in front of the cameras just because she was. Yeah took a lot of pictures growing up. And she wasn't the kind of I mean it always kind of bothered me and still bothers me to that to this day if you and I were sitting here talking she wouldn't just take a picture of us talking she would have us both turn and be posed a certain way and she'd say you know could you drop your chin you don't look intelligent that way she'd say look you need to close your mouth you look like you think of that been asked a question you don't know the answer to that's always right but I want to get back at them but yeah she went on to work for Richard Avedon which was also very exciting to kind of be around a really accomplished target for like that my mom's gone on to have a great career of her own and had a few books published what a creative. I mean it's not really a shock to you when your brothers turned out that way you did what a creative and altruistically creative world to grow up and write Yeah well at the same time it didn't feel you know it wasn't like a really. You remember A Yeah it wasn't like the Royal Tenenbaums or anything where you know my dad you know was a working man and getting up and going to the office and my mom was also you know a very busy mother but also while at the same time you know I'll hear about you know musicians here or artists or actors where their parents weren't encouraging and I can't imagine how difficult that would be for a guide and want to be a painter or for or for a woman to want to be an actress and to not be encouraged by your parents I'm sure in a way it could help kind of spur you want and give you a thicker skin is it risky men having kids I don't know it's a it's a risky I mean I get it and I don't get it yeah you know yeah I mean that's why still as I get older I'm you know it impresses me even more and feel thankful that my parents were encouraging I mean I think it helps that you know on when Wes Anderson you know seemed you know even at that young even in their early twenty's they did seem kind of very driven and focus they weren't flaky. I want to play some notes from OK Cupid put this back on not as perhaps shocking this time. As it is the guy I get it. He says I'm sorry sorry believing this is just for something you have and that was something that I would hear you know what it does to be found then the guy listening opens the door and so I just. Feel like the gentleman like pushing them aside that's your 1st brother that's from the Bottle Rockets short the bottle rockets or Wes Anderson you when your brother and Andrew and Bob Musgrave we made out we'd had those guys that had a script. Full length script written and then a guy that my dad had put us in touch with this guy alum Kit Carson who wrote Paris Texas and remake of breathless he this is before you know we'd ever heard of Sundance he said you know there's a place called Sundance and they have a shorts program so if you guys make a self-contained short film you know maybe you can get it in there so that was our attempt at a short film to get into Sundance and then the interesting thing about that was we made a short film got it into Sundance own and Wes went to the Sundance screenwriter's lab worked on the feature length script we got it to James L. Brooks it was made by Columbia Pictures and then Sundance didn't accept it then then didn't accept the feature length film but yeah I mean they want to cut you out of it or something like that no what they what they wanted to do was in the negotiations after James L. Brooks and his right hand person Polly Platt. Had gotten a hold of the script and wanted to make it you know. It was we were going to make it and it had gotten the green light and then they said OK guys they want to make it but they just want to make it with other actors without you and I only and Bob Musgrave and I was said that seems very reasonable real actors and they're let West a wreck that we work on the crew and maybe we get in the next one and everyone's like Luke what the hell are you talking about you Don't you know we're almost there what do you get because I just rolled over and really really I said yeah let's get some good guys and plenty of people they can do this better than we can but yeah that the guys were not very happy with me and I said that seems great yeah let's get some actors and get Ethan Hawke in Cannery have some Let's get this let's get this puppy may have a great I'll take 5 percent everyone I'll be happy you know I was just I wanted to work location. And but you did you have any idea I mean you can't it seems like a dumb question to me but like I often think that you can know it that like you in your brother Wes Anderson are all in this world right now you must have had some kind of inkling that home I got we may be pretty good at this. Or at least no I mean there was another movie going like that movie maybe and maybe I mean I definitely feel movies were what we loved and kind of the focus of you know every weekend was how do we get into this or a good movie or how do we get into that movie and you know as I got older you know you know junior high reading about actors I liked and learning about directors and then Wesson 01 were Yeah like I said they were just kind of very very driven and but. Yeah I mean even when we made bottle rocket for the studio they weren't happy for you could feel the vibe like they're getting the dailies back and they're. Not exactly happy with what you guys are doing and. Yeah I don't know I mean it's like I just ran and Adam Sandler and so funny to see him I think about somebody like that who you know would have been like obviously a really funny kid but you know it's like when you grow up I'm sure you had really funny friends really but would you ever think they were funny enough to be on my guest C.T.V. Or Saturday Night Live and I really do then believe in that thing where a lot of a lot of it is like you know timing and luck but then yeah you do have to have the talent once you get your foot in the door to come and try and stay there to hear the story about Sandler that like he he said I felt like I had to be a star because I kept on telling my friends that I was going to be or I already was like I'd even be talking to a gal I'm going to get as our ally don't worry about it and then if they got a good answer yeah I mean well I mean Adam is one of those guys you can see how kind of I mean as funny as he is he's really driven and obviously it's great when you see somebody like that doing like Punch-Drunk Love or like this movie he has with the SAF the brothers on cut gems where yeah he he's just really talented and but yeah I don't know that we it was so difficult to get the 1st movie made that I like a version of P.T.S.D. For me and yeah I still feel kind of worried and concerned at times he did. Do you get something that outside of working with your brothers that maybe don't get it working with other people. Well it's funny just when you play that clip of us from the short I can I can feel Owen's tension in it which then med made me $0.10 and I can feel how quickly we're talking in. But yeah I mean I and you know I've been texting on since I've been here at the film festival just saying like I had the funniest talk with Timberlake Nelson we got to get in touch with him and I ran into John Hamm Many such a nice guy and then other you know other producers and directors that we both know and so yeah I think we both have always had fun going out and working with other people and yeah definitely you know we'll work with other people and think shown would really have own an end or would really have fun working with this guy and this and you know I've talked to Finn will Ford who's in the goldfinch and he said I just watched by the rocket and loved it and I went and watched the short film and I was saying you've got to meet Wes Anderson because he seemed like the kind of guy the West would get along with Great so yeah I do think we we do get you know other things from working with with other people but it at least for me it always kind of goes back to how much I. I think those guys like. Wes would like these people they managed to make talk great talking to thanks for playing that clip Luke's new film is called guest of honor at the Canadian director Adam a going and is behind that line and Luke Wilson plays a priest in the movie just had its North American premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival really good things are coming to your home and coming to theaters near you add that debuted at the festival and we're going to talk about some of those of incoming films right after. 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Radio One Sirius X and 169 and from Public Radio International better known as P.R.I. Our. So Lou Kirby the actor comedian actor won an Emmy last night for the role that you're hearing right now playing the comedian Lenny Bruce in the T.V. Comedy the marvelous Mrs Mays ill just this past Friday Luke Harvey was on cue talking about playing Lenny Bruce the iconic and yes real life comedian he talked about how let me Bruce's daughter Kitty Bruce made a surprise appearance on set during one of the shoots it was amazing Yeah it really made her a fire got to be yeah it was it was weird. It was great Honestly it was great I've been in contact with her she's been super supportive and you know it really just makes my heart soar to even know her she sort of sussed me out she was like looking at me. You know taking in the NGOs and going to consume. You know OK you could have the job. Lou Kirby thank the kitty Bruce Lenny Bruce his daughter in his acceptance speech last night he won the Emmy Award for guest comedy actor Congratulations to Luke the Emmy Award celebrate the television industry that handed out all week the Emmy ceremony that most people are familiar with is the broadcast award show which will be on Sunday and while you have the Emmys on your mind here's something else we've been thinking about if you're an actor you spend most of your time pretending to live through things you actually haven't lived through I know it seems reductive It's like saying that you know it here's what a triangle looks like or you know when you're an astronaut you're in space but really it's a pretty amazing job isn't it like you have to spend your entire life pretending to be people pretending to be the president pretending to be a superhero but sometimes that challenge involves a little bit something more ordinary like pretending to be a parent Mandy Moore plays the family matriarch on the show This Is Us a woman named Rebecca Pierson but in real life Mandy doesn't have any kids so playing a mom she said really stretched her ability and especially because Mandy brings her character to life when her character's 20 in her forty's and in her sixty's it's a hard gig and turns out a pretty rewarding one too many more scored her 1st ever not Emmy nomination for that role as I mention the Emmys will be handed out on Sunday this is US has 5 nominations in total so here's a little bit of a conversation I had with Mandy Moore this is back in the 1st season of This Is Us and just a warning if you have tissues nearby keep in close as heartstrings may be tucked. I always find that Avatar. To feel like. I'm lying to me. Why don't they just waiting for you to find. If you need it I've never played a wife or a mother on screen before and so I was really interested to sort of. Figure all of that out and the challenge of playing a mother being a mother was the challenge just having no point of reference as to what it's like it's right that it grind of love and responsibility outside of yourself and it's my job. To keep standing there with my arms wide open waiting. For you me some day. Fall inside if you need to do. If you to love you. If you don't. Love you too. Because that's what it means. And I didn't know at the time but at that I would be playing this character from $23.00 to $66.00 so like this fully evolved and fully realized person you know sort of in the prime of her life at 66 but also a woman who I came to discover had lost a husband who was remarried who's seen grandchildren come into the world in her own children get married and divorced and like this is a woman who's of the full life and so I don't necessarily have that to relate to as well so trying to find common ground and find my footing with it has been its own had its own sets of challenges to. Our marriage wasn't perfect it's true but. When your father wasn't perfect either. But he was pretty damn close. Watched the stranger. And stranger became my child. My child became my. I want a family of my own someday for sure I always have wanted to have kids and to be a mother but I don't have like a ton of experience so I don't know. Just in the trailer thinking like OK going to go out I'm going to this person not for like the younger. Not even really the older . I think about it more energetically. And weird but energetically I really thought about like to make the distinction between these 2 women and the majority of the season I played this this woman is like a 38 year old mother of 8 year olds and I thought about her energy emanating from her hands and her heart because she sort of like in the thick of being a mother and just giving so much of herself to her family and as she gets older and transitioning into like the 66 year old version I thought about her energy emanating like from the top of her head as if it's like a lamp and you take the lamp shade off and the light bulb is just shining directly up like there's a wisdom and a clarity that comes with. A groundedness and a sure footed ness that can only come with like wisdom and time. Mandy Moore plays the matriarch Rebecca Pierson in the T.V. Drama. And her very 1st Emmy nomination for that role this year's Emmy Awards will be handed out on Sunday and the new season of this is its 4th season premieres just a few days later on Choose day September 24th My name is Tom Power You're listening to Q. Well I think. That's a new song from leave followed back the song is called transatlantic flight you can find it on his new album called new ways which is coming out on November 1st by the way back a past shortlisted As for the Polaris Music Prize which is handed out tonight in Toronto the best album in Canadian music this year based only on artistic merit if you want to learn more about it go to C.B.C. Music dot ca and keep an eye on our social media feeds I'm Tom Power Q. Is back right after this. I mention playroom Tuesday night on in deep What makes a film if you watch San Francisco zones are of more edgy Moeller of Turner Classic Movies more alley joins me to talk about those grim tales darkie Green Streets jazzy soundtracks and a who's who of Hollywood noir stars. In deep with Angie cornrow Tuesdays 9 pm here on Cape recorded live at the Dragon theater in Redwood City. You're listening to Hugh on C.B.C. Radio One Sirius exam $169.00 and from P.R.I. Our Public Radio International My name is Tom Power. Johnny Harris has a pretty unusual job for the last 5 years he's traveled to small towns across Canada and when he arrives he hangs out for a little bit he gets to know the place and then after spending a couple of days there does stand up does stand up comedy about the small town he's just visited If you watch his T.V. Show still standing you've seen that it's not a rose does not meant to ridicule them but it's you know it's well intentioned and very funny a lot of the time you get a real sense of the community and watch it survive together neighbors banding together helping one another but you got to imagine though if you're someone who lives in one of these towns it probably feels a little weird to have a national T.V. Crew appear and suddenly put your community in the spotlight and this due to you never met before with a new line X. And gets up on stage and does stand up about your uncle what turns out when Johnny started still standing about 5 years ago he was a little nervous about it too at the beginning I was sure yeah but I've got to say I have found small town audiences to be very gracious very laid back up for a laugh you know all the material I try to do I try to make it sort of. You know it's cheeky here and there but ultimately it's flattering it's a clap on the back it's a little bit of boosterism a little bit of celebration of the town and it's like it's survival stories like neighbors in small towns coast to coast how they banded together against all odds against either it's a feeling industry or a crop failure or you know modernization have have survived and I heard you put it this way it's more like a cross between a comedy club gig and a wedding speech yeah I like that yeah well because you cannot then you're saying nice things about him so so it's a little bit no one's going to heckling you if you're giving a speech at a wedding no one's going to like men this guy's I think I'm going to have before I think we both into weddings where I've done that but you know people are just sort of glad they were there saying nice things about him you know I've often said. Small town crowds are you know this day and age were you know sometimes comedians are finding audiences very very sensitive sometimes ready to pounce on or or waiting to categorically say oh that's offensive but I have found people in small towns to be proud without being precious and. And that pride is real but they're not sort of waiting for like OK I'm waiting for a buzz word that I'm going to find offensive or you know waiting for if he brings up the anything about the mind and makes a joke about it I'm not going to like it I guess we're about 70 towns in now and they've all been pretty pretty great knock on wood if we just play a clip so this is an episode from camp of Belo Island yeah New Brunswick Take a listen this is the 1st episode still thing I've ever done where I needed my passport. Capabilities part of it is just not accessible from Canada. If you want to get here from mainland New Brunswick you have to play the U.S. Border of choice do all things which in and out of 2 different time zones and borders don't like it when you pull up you're the one with the questions and the questions are What time is it What country am I. Really yeah I tell you Island towns are always very good I find some other towns that are remote or. Insular or something you know then they're very into their town and island towns are like I mean Newfoundland on a on a bigger scale but you know Bell Island and why full Island camp Abella Weiland islands are always good episodes border towns are also very good episodes and that can be bellow is both is both what are they dealing with there well you know they've got anything they want to bring over OK well let's say if you have to go to mainland NEW BRUNSWICK Yeah to 2 border crossings and you know everybody just has their And all of their family's passports in the glove box and that's how you that's how you travel I think try to make one joke about maybe if you're trying to go to the hospital and staying Stephen maybe you could save time and at the border tell the U.S. Border agent that you've been hiding drugs or something next and he's got you bent over doing a deep body cavity and you can say well listen I was on my way to get a colonoscopy but if you think it all looks good then. You know you could save yourself a trip that's it but there's something about this show that even though I'm from a city I can't. I can relate to these people you know I mean I think that's the success of the show yeah can you tell me one story though we didn't get a chance to talk about this because I oftentimes you go to towns after they deal with something yeah the mill shut down. You know the mayor blew up. At the cod moratorium Yeah Klein in lumber yeah yeah there's a lot of ones that are that are common you know common issues so the Churchill Manitoba one this is one where it kind of happened while you were there it was awful while we were there what happened well the rail like the railway which is their lifeline it overnight the railway was damaged they became a flying community overnight and the town is not designed to survive as a flying community and the blame game really went. All the way up like locals were mad at the government the government kicked it up to federal government Nixon had Justin Trudeau on T.V. Saying you know that's the responsibility of the American company tracks who own that railway they have to fix it and repair it the people at AMI track said well we can't afford to fix it and it's not our responsibility because it was washed out in a flood in a flood is an act of God So the blame game really went all the way are you there then I don't well know this happened before but while we were there there was a sale so so so many tracks was going to sell it to a consortium of companies and indigenous groups that were going to try to fix it and I think on our 3rd day of shooting were in every town for 5 days a deal fell through and you just. You saw people sort of whispering about it you felt it in a town it was just they were God it was a deep blow when you were filming that episode some of the folks you talked to included the owners of the local hardware store take a listen to this for everything the order now they got a piece so much freight on it and mark it up so much it's so expensive it's running does come back people will buy it people be like Sori I can't be that much for I can get it for a quarter of the cost on the train now in the Home Hardware supplies because we call that a catch 22 by 4 it was. Not that. I was OK but it was OK but it's interesting because knowing this wasn't just something people were living through in the past that maybe they had come to terms with and had a sense of humor about knowing that this was something they were dealing with literally on the days that you were there did that change how you approached and upset. Yeah yeah while I was I was nervous about it but I think there was something it almost lends something to the stand up that I think to have an outsider sort of get up and and say look this is what you guys have been dealing with for the last year and you have every right to be upset and annoyed and I guess maybe for an outsider sort of validate what they're. Angry about I think was was validating or something like that anyway the lot the live show really went over . Very well and of course we're fortunate now that at the end of that episode we play a little like a title card you know some script that explains how you know about a month after we left there another consortium did buy the railway and began repairing it right away and I think that's sort of are you are you ever so affected by it it's hard to do to stand up so personally. Now really I just I think I have to take a you know our job for me in the writers in this story editors who all do an incredible job is we got to find the positive angle so in a way you have to acknowledge the struggle which sometimes can be awkward difficult but but from then on it's all about sort of you know finding silver linings and and and trying to find the the positive elements of a story I would hate to I wouldn't be much good as a journalist where you really have to dig into what's awful and terrible I get to sort of like set up an in mediately switch gears to like yeah but still there was some good stuff. Is there any kind of greater goal here rather than just making people laugh Well yeah I think it's you know easing people's worries easing people's minds I think that you know one of the great things about comedy is that it sort of tells people that the struggles they have in their life are common stuff that a lot of people deal with and we've often discussed it like we're not in a town to sort of suggest everything's going to be fine at all we've sort of tried to remain fairly objective about things but there's always good things there's always like highly commendable things I don't want to ever come across as being pandering or saccharin but I never need to there's always something very impressive you know if I just give credit where credit's due there's going to be tons whether it's a guy in turtle Manitoba who you know saw his neighbor a woman being attacked by a polar bear and grabbed a shovel on his way its door cracked upside the head and saved her life or it's people in Fort McMurray Alberta who are evacuating with you know burning embers landing on their car and it didn't turn into mass hysteria everybody sort of kept calm and the evacuation was successful I mean those are some of those are sort of sensational examples but there's always every time we go to there there's something commendable that there is that if you just sort of give credit where credit is due you never need to sort of never needs to come across as pandering or sacral just zoom out a little bit like I think we live in a time right now and I understand this is a comedy show but I think we live in a time right now were there mean rural and urban divisions are real thing you know especially the federal election coming up we're talking about all the needs of rural Canadians versus big city Canadians who often pitted against one another often you realize they have more in common than you think I want to give you a chance to talk here because you have an interesting perspective you live in Toronto you've got to visit small towns a lot of Canadians in Toronto would never visit What do the people in big cities might need to know about people in small towns Well you know we need to remember that each other are are there I think. Something that I find viably different in some towns specially economically struggling towns is. That I quite like it is there is less of a feeling of materialism I'm always afraid that the longer I live in Toronto there is a bit of materialism creeping in but don't you find that if you know growing up in new find in eighty's and ninety's sometimes a lot of the you know smartest wisest most respected adults or community leaders might have been poor because lots of people were poor a few people in the city feel like well if you are smart and driven it's of you do you equate to money somehow and I I sort of like that about small to have this sort of like that when we were kids I don't this was the same with you but you know you go to a wedding and you put on some as close as you can get to a suit but maybe didn't have dress shoes so you put on your sneakers and no one found that ridiculous or funny or nobody thought less of you and I just find that sort of the lack of materialism sort of refreshing I was up when we were up in Churchill mans old everybody's car has a front bumper hanging off or bumpers gone altogether or the side view mirrors hanging off certainly one of the body panels on your car is not the same color as the rest of the car and after we could be out there I thought yeah why would you bother I mean especially for them where they're trying to ship this stuff up at exorbitant costs but I thought I saw that you know if you were in Tronto in your current was like that you'd be mortified and it just seems so silly to me for a 2nd that we are sort of I don't know it was just something about being among that that I found a bit. Refreshing bit of relief of materialism Yeah I thought I yeah I definitely have one sneakers to a number of weddings Yeah. The only love that I think you see pictures of weddings in the eighty's and ninety's a new front in the ball eyes are all there and they got probably got to a tie and maybe jacket and then they got their high cut Reeboks or they got a cap or. Yeah or involved yeah I know one sort of no one is you know sneakernet this came up yesterday and I want to close off this way so still standing isn't the only chance people have to see on C.B.C. While the 5th season of that show is about to start the 13th season to learn about mysteries I must be good luck I should point out that if you didn't catch is already down and down and I spent a fair bit of time together not as much as maybe we'd like to talk about that but this isn't a chance for me to ask you this question I don't really know how you do it how do you manage to balance doing 2 full time television shows at once. Well the answer that's why you and I haven't hung out anything yet right but yeah it's sort of there's not a lot of time for any else on I'm sure you're equally as busy but he know what else you're going to do you don't turn down a T.V. Show you know you'd be crazy to so so you know I do both and it's but you know and then and sometimes you get bit one out of it exhausted and then you think of who else has gets to do this gets to you know you get to be on a a drama a scripted hour long murder mystery drama and then get to do some comedy and travel the country and for yourself and yeah and be me on a stage it's. Yeah very very fortunate if you like and keep looking around your studio for wood to knock on what does this mean a cork cork that's loose is a type of wood rattle to yeah. Well thanks for coming and thanks for having me we have to we have to get together soon this is the only way we can do it yes Johnny Harris in the new season the 5th season of still standing it premieres on C.B.C. And C.B.C.'s J.M. Tomorrow night that September 17th as you just heard you'll also see Johnny in the new season of Murdoch Mysteries You can watch that also on C.B.C. And C.B.C. Jam tonight I'm Tom Power You're listening to Hugh you may have heard me mention this earlier in the program we learned that Rick OK sic has died at the age of 75 RICO case it is best known as the front man of the cars a major band that helped kick off the new wave in pop rock in the seventy's in the eighty's hits like just what I needed and shake it up best friends girl today tributes are pouring in from other musicians AC Newman of The New Pornographers wrote in a tweet quote I will never stop imitating the 1st cars album his influence will always stay with me and the band Weezer case of produce their blue and green albums tweeted this the Weser family is devastated by the loss of our friend and mentor Rick OK sick who passed away Sunday we will miss him forever will forever cherish the precious times we got to work and hang out with him and I want to play a gigantic cars hit right now and one song by Rick OK sick himself. We're going to . Public Radio International on the Next Radio Lab when somebody has a brain injury and commits a crime who do we blame Was it the person's fault or was it something about his brain I did idiotic things that I couldn't stop myself from doing my brain made me do it because I have These are logical problems we're just going to say you're blameworthy addicted to his own and saying it's like a soul and. I don't want to do it blame that's on the Next Radio join us for Radio Lab tomorrow evening at 10 right here on 91.7 San Francisco. Good evening and welcome to city visions what does it mean to have good sex parents are you ready to talk with your teenagers about it and for young people listening what would you like to learn about good sex from your parents or other adults my marriage Ansun your guest host tonight it's nice to be back and got some hip new theme music for City vision since the last time I was here the me too movement and the growing list of high profile people accused and in some cases convicted of sex crimes has brought sexual assault and abuse to the forefront of our conversations American teenagers today grow up in a culture that normalizes porn and depersonalize relationships and they're subject to threats from social media that didn't exist when today's parents were their age Stay with us for a frank discussion with 2 teens and a high school health teacher about healthy relationships getting and giving consent preventing sexual abuse and tips on how to talk about these topics with the teens and adults in your life with me in the studio are alone she's a long time health educator and consultant whose work centers on human development community building ethics and social justice she is currently the health teacher at the Urban School of San Francisco a private high school here in the city and has just released her 1st book Sex teens and everything in between Congratulations and welcome thank you she's brought with her 2 of her urban school of San Francisco students U.T. Fung and Jackson track and welcome Union Jack. So for the adults in our audience what tips do you need for talking to the young people in your life about sex and teens what would you like to learn about sex from the adults in your life we invite you to join the conversation by dialing 866798 talk that's 866-798-8255 you can also e-mail us and e-mail here you can e-mail us at City Vision's at K L W dot org tweet us or post a comment on our Facebook page please note that our conversation over the next hour may contain disturbing or upsetting continent might not be suitable for some listeners especially young children should feel let me start by asking you how long you've been teaching health education and sex education and what are the biggest changes you've seen over those years in how teenagers learn about and experience sex. Well I've been teaching health education for about 25 years in the Bay Area and then consulting for about 15 and what seems to be the biggest difference is certainly social media cell phones and then also what I call the point a fixation of our culture. And that's adopted from other folks who are talking about the same sort of phenomenon that there's a been a normalization of porn and young people watching porn consuming it and a lot of times using it as the sort of default sex education that they're not getting in schools because it's so much easier to get now than it was when say you were kids yes absolutely when you and I were kids really the World Wide Web didn't even. So a magazine in from the corner store and get some of them but very were something like absolutely there was maybe a V.H.S. Or Beta Max tape that someone had found you know there was Playboy there was Playgirl maybe hustler if you were on the you know raunchy and you had to find that stack it was pretty hard to come by we would your mark you know Judy Blume books with sex scenes and whatever it was the thing about those types of porn is that you had to actually engage your imagination. And it was still your fantasy that was inspired by what you were looking but looking at but it still came from your your own mind and imagination and now a lot of times especially with the high speed internet porn and how kids have access to that it's someone else's imagination and it's a multi-sensory experience they're hearing it they're seeing it if they're masturbating to it there's a joke I mean reward response that goes along with it and their brains are developing so it's a there's an impact that's different than when we were younger. Do you think that more teens today actually start having sex at younger and younger ages or do we just hear about it more today sex was happening just as much in the past but it was talked about earlier. Generations Well recently there's actually been reporting that we're in a sexual recession and that the sexual debut or what some of us think of traditionally as losing virginity. Really hasn't changed much in fact it might be even a little older so that number has been about 17 hasn't changed in about 40 years and there has been some reporting with a lot of different sort of theories behind why today's young people are actually engaged in less sexual activity than previous generations OK so for check and what's your perception of how many you know what percentage of your classmates are sexually active do you do you have any idea and at what age do you think they started. So the great thing about Urban is that we actually have a survey that kind of tells you it's at the end of the year there's like an anonymous survey that goes out and people answer whether or not whether they want to or not but they're encouraged to. But I think like probably I would say 4045 percent for maybe a little more than that it's hard to say. But I don't think people really start engaging in like sexual activity until like sophomore or junior year you.
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