Government of canada for his impediment. Here is the remarkable thing, canada settled with him. This month just in trudeaus government awarded him more than 10 million and issued an official apology for being mean to him. Prime minister trudeau later said that he had not bothered to talk to the widow and he decided to defend the settlement as a win for human rights. I can understand canadians concerns about settlement. In fact i share those concerns about the money, thats why we settled. The measure of a society, of a just society is not whether we stand up for peoples rights when its easy or popular to do so, its whether we recognize rights when its difficult, when its unpopular. Tucker michelle is a member of the Canadian Parliament and she joins us tonight. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me. His tucker is this a measure of the justness of Canadian Society . I want you to know that most canadians are outraged about this. They are outraged because of the payment itself, how the payment happened in the fact that the way that it happened has probably preempted and prevented tabitha spear from seizing any of those assets. Tucker the assets belonging to the father of this man . Thats correct. I think with a lot of your viewers have just seen the statement, they should also know that most canadians i think are quite outraged and quite disappointed by the state of affairs. Tucker it doesnt seem just. Probably a lot of people in canada, including some who have been legitimately mistreated by the government who could use ten and a half million dollars. This was a settlement, it wasnt any sort of payment that was awarded by a canadian court. This lawsuit that mr. Khadr had filed was being litigated and there was no court ruling. This is something the government decided. What was disappointing for me as a legislator and many of my colleagues that this decision happened after our house of commons, similar to your congress rose for the summer. Right now we are not sitting, usually have an opportunity to ask questions like why did this happen, what was the governments motivation. That didnt happen. I think thats where theres a lot of concern about this particular decision, that its been made in a bit of a vacuum. Now we are just getting grips and grabs. Tucker so why did the Prime Minister do this . Thats really a question for him. I think many canadians would have preferred to have seen this play out in a court of law. The Prime Minister had said that this was done for some sort of financial reasons to save money, but the reality is that this was a decision that was made by his government and not by a court of law. I think thats quite confusing and quite outrageous for many canadians. Tucker so theres an effort online in canada to raise money for the family of Christopher Speer, tabitha speer. But also for the other soldier. Speerkids. Ca. You have to understand is that this is not a partisan political issue, this is something that people who actually voted for this government are saying im not comfortable with. You have to understand that canada values the relationships that we have in terms of our men and women in uniform serving shoulder to shoulder with each other. I think theres a lot of people going how did this happen and why . Is a question for our Prime Minister to answer. Tucker why wouldnt he call the widow of Christopher Speer . Again, im sure that something he should answer for, but i know that our former Prime Minister Stephen Harper has reached out to her. I cant imagine being her right now and listening to all of this coverage and having to have those wounds we opened. I think we have to be cognizant about her and compassionate to her and her family in the first instance here and to me thats at the core of canadian outrage over this. Tucker again, as long as were passing out 10 million checks to people who say they have been wronged, he would not even be on the first hundred on that list. You have to wonder was this a way to getting the finger to the United States . I think this should have played out in a court of law. Mr. Khadr has a computer will tell mike appeal to his conviction, he said this case in front of the canadian government. This is a very serious situation all around. Our Supreme Court has said that his human rights are violated. As a legislator, i want the judiciary to make a decision on this. Thats what hasnt happened here. I want to be perfect clear, i think thats where that sense of wrong this is coming from. Tucker lets the let the king decide over summer vacation. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. Tucker Sergeant Morris was the other soldier we alluded to who was wounded in that firefight or Christopher Speer was killed. He will be joining us tomorrow night for his take on the settlement we were just talking about. We hope you had a relaxing weekend because our Political Class in washington did not. Instead of barbecuing with their children, taking some time to solve the many problems this country faces, they were back on Television Writing about the russian takeover of america. What are the russians have politically, financially, or personally on donald trump that he funds over putin. The American People have a right to know. I do not want to see our democracy underlined by having the president of the United States colluding or his officials colluding with russia. This love of putin that this president is showing in this defensive putin that this president has done and all of the other things that i just alluded to is unseemly. We can also say that donald trump, jr. , what he did was a threat to our democracy and borderline treason. Tucker borderline treason. Max blumenthal is an author, a journalist and a lifelong man of the left. Hes become skeptical of the russian collusion narrative which he has called destructive and dangerous. Last month he took a camera to an antirussia protest on the National Mall here in washington to find out what the people there actually know about the topic. Heres part of the conversation, an amazing conversation he had with an aggressive congressman. You saw that roger stone host show. Roger stone hosted a series on the russian propaganda network. Do believe that we need roger stone that he did not host a show . That he didnt host a show. You can go after any details you want but i dont see why it would be your interest and support an autocratic authoritarian government which is jailing journalist and fighting freedom. I think we should tell the people the truth. When max joins us in studio. I love that exchange because it similar to so many ive had on the show or if you call into question the facts being asserted you are immediately accused of being a handmaiden to Vladimir Putin. Let me ask in the broadest question you are not a trump support up, a lifelong man of the left and yet you dont think that this russia story is helpful to the left or makes sense, why . With a talk about the issue of efficacy in addition to the fact that i havent seen any concrete evidence and Rachel Maddows dots may never connect. Someone on the left was actually gone out and protested trump, i didnt expect the hysteria to completely take over, but now i see what the point is of it. I see trump is the apotheosis of a failed political establishment both from the democrats and the republican pushing corporate trade, pushing permanent war and i thought the democrats should have responded with a big narrative against permanent war. For economic equality. Instead they are pushing russia mongering nonstop, it has subsumed all of the progressive grassroots movements i believed in and its basically buried the left and a militaristic narrative that ambitious figures are advancing. Mark my words, when trump is gone, this narrative, this russia hysteria will be repurposed by the political establishment to attack the left and anyone on the left, bernie sanders, politicians who step out of line on issues like permanent war or corporate free trade, things like that will be painted as russia puppets. This is very dangerous and people who are progressive who are falling into it need to know what the longterm consequences of this cynical narrative are. Tucker it seems virtually everyone among them left in washington with some exceptions. Who seemed to really believe that Vladimir Putin was in control of the last election. Do you think they believe it . I dont know, i cant speak for other people, im not a mind reader, but this definitely an political clash in washington that sees russia scandal mongering as a Silver Bullet to take out trump and then you have the democrats were basically the democratic establishment that came in and took out keith ellison, the corporate sellout establishment that cant agree on a economic message that doesnt favor singlepayer. This is just convenient because it gives them a way of opposing trump without having to do anything remotely progressive. Tucker its a little bit surprising from a perspective of someone in the media to see big news organizations full of smart people who i thought were pretty skeptical in a good way refuse to ask any of the basic questions and instead when you press them safe some number of Intelligence Agency said so. I havent seen the evidence but i believe in. When did that change, what is that about . The boot looking press and a boot licking liberal opposition that believes all intelligence agencies and doesnt ask questions from these anonymous officials. You will see on cnn a segment, u. S. Officials say russian spine is ramping up. I dont know, our russian spies taking adderall now . Theres never any clear sourcing. Never any sources on the record and then we see erased. It was burlington, vermont,s electricity grid, then they retracted the story. Its very hard to keep track of it, but what theyve done with the scandal mongering in addition to kind of pushing away a progressive narrative is create the sense among a lot of people who dont have time to Pay Attention that there is russian collusion, that we were attacked by russia and that actually have to respond if not with expanded sanctions, which i think is very dangerous and harms average people, but with military response. We just saw paul on cnn calling for blowing up the russian intelligence. Tucker you see members of Congress Call this an act of war. You are pretty fairly wellknow wellknown. What kind of response have you received after saying things like this in public . I will probably get called a putin puppet after the show. Thats pretty much all they can say but i would like to have a debate about the evidence. I would like to talk about the evidence behind this. But i also want to talk about whether its a good idea to support democrats like ben for saying this is a political pearl harbor and we should respond. Whether its a good idea to expand nato into little countries like montenegro. Whether its a good idea to be funding jihadist proxies in syria to hurt russia. Supporting territorial isis in syria to hurt russia and iran. Thats where this narrative is leading. It seems to be from a purely progressive antiwar, antiimperial position, a disastrous narrative that will have longterm consequences for the left. Tucker my son will be required to give his life to defend the territorial integrity of montenegro. Maybe its a good idea, maybe we should debate it, but we are no not. Thanks for coming on, that was super interesting. Tucker Trump Administration now approaching its six month mark. Congress trying to hammer out a placement of obamacare. What is in the current replacement of the bill . We will sit down with the hhs secretary tom price in just a second. Refugee resettlement programs have a small town in pennsylvania. Hows that going . We will have that next. Theres a better option. The capital one venture card. With venture, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, everywhere, every day. Not just airline purchases. Seems like a nobrainer. Whats in your wallet . Itthe power of nexium 24hr protection from frequent heartburn. All day, and all night. Now packed into a pill so small, we call it mini. New clearminis from nexium 24hr. See heartburn differently. Choicehotels. Com. Badda book. Thats it . He means book direct at choicehotels. Com for the lowest price on our rooms guaranteed. Plus earn free nights and instant rewards at checkin. Yeah. Like i said. Book now at choicehotels. Com tucker republicans spent many years failing to immediately repeal and replace obamacare if voters would turn them the power. It may be voted for them for that reason. When barack obama was still president the house of representative repeatedly classed for placement bills knowing they would never become law but now republicans do have the power to do all of that, to replace obamacare, and theyre having a hard time. The senate still has never passed a repeal bill and that baby a good thing according to polls which show that only 17 of americans approve of the pla plan. Five points lower than the approve relating in this country for Vladimir Putin. What would this plan do for americans . Some confusion about that still, tom price joins us tonight to clear it up. Thank you very much for coming on. Good to be with you. Tucker you are trying to sell this to the public but also to the congress, and its hard, its always hard with the stuff. If you were too narrow it down, tell me with the chief aim of this bill is. Is it to improve health outcomes, to control prices, or to expand coverage . Sticking to the principles of health care, making it affordable and accessible of the highest quality and providing choices for patients. Protects patients, provides more choices, lowers costs and it strengthens medicaid. Thats it in a nutshell. Tucker but you didnt add to that expanded coverage . Coverage comes when people have something that they want to purchase. Coverage doesnt come when washington tells you what to buy. The way that you get people to get Health Coverage and that you provide them with a product that they actually want. If thats purpose of this bill is. Tucker i dont know the answer to this because i havent seen the polling, but is there evidence that people in the last election voted to replace democratic leadership with donald trump because they wanted more choices . And health care . They certainly wanted obamacare to go away. Tucker for sure. Never broke 50 , now its actually about 50 now that we are debating. They wanted to go away and its important to know why. They want to go away because prices are up, choices are down, folks dont have the kind of coverage they want. They may have a card but they dont have care because they can afford the deductible. There are all sorts of an array of things that are wrong with obamacare, with the aca and thats what were trying to fix. Its not just through this bill, thats whats important for people to appreciate as well. If its an isolated activity, its an important one. Its vital to have it but its only one isolated activity thats going in place with his administration to make it tucker i think its worth paying attention to. How would trump voters be affected by . West virginia for example, 68 of West Virginia voted for donald trump. About 30 of the whole state is on medicaid. This legislation i think would reduce payments, i think thats fair to say. How would they fare under this. For those individuals on medicaid who are eligible previously. Theres essentially no change whatsoever. Over a period of time those individuals that were on medicaid but were ablebodied adults, they would transition to a personal market, a private Insurance Market that would be more responsive to them and allow them to purchase the kind of coverage they want. Everybodys prices will come down for the premiums that they pay for their coverage and a look at coverage more responsive to them. If we strengthen the medicaid system, we drive prices down, increased choices. Thats what its about. Tucker if this bill passed tomorrow in its current form, i know it still being formulated. There would be no net loss of medicaid dollars for people on medicaid and the state of West Virginia . For the next two years there would be no change at all, the changes began in 2020 and at that time medicaid would grow, the amount of money for medicaid would grow at a rate thats equivalent to the Consumer Price index for the medical services that are provided in this country. That would be a rate that would actually cover the cost of the increased growth in the medicaid system. Over the period of seven or eight years that drops down to just cpi. Over that period of time the individuals that would transition from medicaid to the private market would then be able to have the coverage that they want. And if they needed it because of their low income would be subsidized by whats called a split stability fund. Making it so we can have patientcentered health care in the system. Tucker s are not fewer people covered by health insurance. I believe, theres no way to predict it, cba has a terrible record on predicting how much coverage, but i believe that there would be more people, more individuals being able to be covered with the system currently being contemplated in the senate and currently. Tucker who loses . Youve described who wins, but someone always loses, who loses . The folks who want government to run your health care, they lose. Tucker who are they . They are the folks in this town right now who are opposing by march, the individuals tucker who loses money on this . The money gets spread differently and the amount of money is actually more because as i said the increase in medicaid is upping Consumer Price index in individuals are able to select the kind of coverage they want. Choices make it so that the market of Health Coverage, if you will, response to patients, not to Insurance Companies and not to government. Thats the key. Tucker how far are we for single payer nationally from catastrophic coverage. Honestly. Im hearing conservatives who have always been against singlepayer for catastrophic coverage . I think the consequences of that actually reduce the ability for you to get the kind of coverage you want for the services. Tucker s that may be right, this is a political question. I think the answer has to wait until the outcome of this debate. If the congress and the president are able the congress is able to pass a bill and put it on the president s desk and i think that you will be a long way away from a singlepayer tucker but if you dont we are closer to it, and would you before it or know . The devil is in the details. Im not for something with the government decides what is covered for individuals. Because i know that when that happens, it happens in every other system that has it, the government decides what equals health care. Tucker they get rich, ive noticed that. That may be a byproduct. Tucker thank you for joining us. If a small town in pennsylvania trying to cope. Covered with human feces and headless chickens after immigration officials settle with roma, they call them gypsies. The need to just grow up and start appreciating diversity. We will talk to an american roma next. As unfathomable as the universe. A world that doesnt exist outside you. But within you. Where breakthrough science is replacing chemotherapy with immunotherapy. Where we can now attack the causes of disease, not just the symptoms. Where medicines once produced for all, are now designed to fit you. Today 140,000 biopharmaceutical researchers go bodly to discover treatments and cures unimaginable ten years ago. And are on the verge of more tomorrow. Tha. Oh, burnton gravy . Ie. Gotta rinse that. Nope. 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For those who wont rest until the world is healthier, neither will we. Optum. How well gets done. Tucker in the last two months several thousand roma, more commonly known as gypsies have been settled in california pennsylvania by the federal government. They are seeking asylum saying they suffered racism in their native romania. Integration is not going well. They have little regard either for the law or public decency. Citizens say they defecate in public, chop the heads off chickens, leaf trash everywhere and more. If they are upset, some of them are. George eli is an author, activist and an american roma. If he made movie about the community. He joins us tonight. Thanks for coming on. Thank you for inviting me, i appreciate it. I dont may tell him i think i would be able to get out of this, my mother would kill me century such a huge fan. Tucker nice open, i like that say high to your mom for me. Because i didnt even tell her, shes probably screaming right now, just so you know. Tucker im not antiroma, but i am proamerican citizen. Tucker and so are american roma. Tucker i know that you are, but the group that is settled in california pennsylvania doesnt seem interested at all and integrating, so why wouldnt american citizens have a right to be upset about that . American citizens have the right to be of anybody coming into their towns. I cant comment on what exactly is happening in the town because i just learned of it through your producers. I can say that the roma people, the majority of them are nonviolent. They are nonviolent people. As far as the town im starting to be concerned. I think both parties are suffering right now from a little bit of culture shock. So i cant we cant discard, as a roma person i cant discard with happening in the town. For them to be fearful of whats happening here, because immigration and immigrants are one thing, but these people seem to be a little bit of not following the law. Tucker i agree with you. Ive spent time on the roma and ive never heard anybody say they were violent, so that seems right to me. But i have heard a lot of people mention, and i hate to say, public defecation, there are a lot of new stories around im serious. Going back a long time in the u. K. And here where groups of roma settle in a new community and defecate on playgrounds or sidewalks or on the front steps. That seems to me a hostile act. Basically what youre saying there are options. When you do that you are saying we reject you. Whats that about . To respond to your question, i cannot respond to, because ive never witnessed it and ive been roma all my life and my family has been. We as bathrooms and ive been to europe many times. Its kind of like i cant respond to something that had never seen as a roma person. Ive never witnessed any of my family do such a thing. In the way youre making it sound with all due respect, or more negative papers are making it sound like they are doing it in protest. If its happening. Tucker lots of people over a number of different years, there are photographs of it actually online. What is that about, its not something that you need to do, so you have to assume its a statement of deeply offensive. I cant respond on something so vague and vast, tucker theres nothing vague about it, theres pictures. What i can say is this, what i can say is that a lot of these romanian roma are coming from romania where theres not a lot of Running Water and you can look at my film and see that this happens, theres not a lot of electricity, these are very rural areas. If the people in pennsylvania think this is in protest this is just a people adjusting to a new culture. Thats what this is. Tucker i wonder if thats true. Im interested in the subject so im sure most of our viewers know this is a Distinct Ethnic Group originally from the indian subcontinent. Its important to understand that was over a thousand years ago in the roma people are inherently european. When im not discounting that i merely saying this has been a Distinct Group for a thousand years, it actually hasnt assimilated for the most part into the cultures in which it has been hosted. I wonder why we think they will assimilate into pennsylvania. That statement that you have is not exactly true. First of all, there are over 1 million roma in north america and you never hear any reports of that. In Eastern Europe where they are the majority they are treated very badly, its worse than the africanamerican plate here in the 50s because theres no economy, and again, these are rural areas they are coming from. The roma that are in western european countries, great britain, france and spain, the ones that were born there and are basically spanish and french natives, that doesnt happen in the more progressive countries. Tucker we can agree that when you come to pennsylvania you cant go on the sidewalk or the playground. Do you think that we are secure enough with our own mores that we can just say knock it off . Yes. Roma, they can adapt, but we have to understand, theyre coming from a culture that hates them. Theyre not going to even though they are great things about america, i think america is the best country in the world and i wouldnt be able to become what ive become if it wasnt for this country. They dont understand that yet. Again, we cannot discard the people of pennsylvania. Im not going to say that they just defecate in the streets because ive never seen reports of that, theres pictures that you were telling me that i have not seen. What i can say is that when you say that there are basically roma and they are not romanian immigrants, that is like putting an emphasis on the roma people and a stereotype that is not fair. Tucker im not trying to be unfair, i just think i dont think you are. Tucker we are out of time but i want you to say high to your mom for me. Hey mom, high, im on the show, and i dont think hes going to marry you. Tucker thank you. Thank you, have a great one. Tucker moore, Evergreen State College in the state of washington. The student says she is being silenced due to her skin color as well as a professor at that school who says they are not extreme enough. Stay tuned. He chronic, widespread pain slowed me down. My doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. He also prescribed lyrica. Fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. Lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. Woman for some, lyrica can significantly relieve fibromyalgia pain and improve function, so i feel better. Lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions suicidal thoughts or actions. Tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worse depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. 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Meanwhile professor claimed that evergreen isnt extreme enough, that the real problem, watch. Im a current student at evergreen. I have been to several meetings to speak, ive been told several times that im not allowed to speak because im white. The school seems to focus so much on race that its actually becoming more racist because i choose not to focus on race ive actually been labeled a racist and a white supremacist. If anyone took the time to actually know me, its not true at all. The work towards equity and inclusion was and is not proceeding fast enough for our students and frustrates them and staff and faculty as well. I want to advocate that each of us, all of us strategically and thoughtfully choose to listen, find, and tell the stories of what happened, stories that understand social change to be messy and righteous. Difficult and necessary. Tucker s thats what fascism looks like in 2017. Don Daniel Davidson is a Senior Correspondent at the federalist and he joins us now. Part of me feels guilty to giving so much airtime to this college in the northwest. I think its a much broader about whats happening to the american left. This is a pretty familiar series of steps we are watching. Do you recognize this . Absolutely. This corresponds to a pattern weve seen playing out all over the country over the last couple of years in berkeley, in maine. Coasttocoast, even at missouri a couple years back i started with lives matter protest. Evergreen is a special case. Its kind of a canary in the coal mine, its been kind of a kooky liberal college for decades. Whats happening there is kind of the logical consequence of leftwing radical theory playing out on College Campuses all over the country. Tucker so i think one thing that that professor, the one who described violent threats as righteous. One thing she said i think does point to the truth. She said in effect our students have been told to expect that things are going to change much faster than it actually changed. Isnt that part of it, students have been taught that the country is irredeemably racist and that they have a responsibility to make everything perfect immediately. If you tell kids that, why should you be surprised when they write . Exactly. I think its also a consequence of the students being very sheltered. Its not just college, theyve gone through high school in most cases without ever really being challenged. Their biases have been confirmed by their teachers from a very young age. College, which is supposed to be a time when you expand your horizons, when you challenge your assumptions, has never really happened for them in that way. Theyve had their biases confirmed and reinforced and as you say theyve been told that change needs to happen really fast and a specific kind of change. And we encounter people they disagree with that kind of lose their minds. And thats what we see in evergreen, thats what weve seen at middlebury college, thats what weve seen at uc berkeley. Its a big problem and it comes from kind of the shelter this and College Students today. Tucker for sure, but i think weve reached the stage of the revolution where it started to consume itself, the snake is eating its own tail. There are no conservatives at evergreen, the guy they are mad at is a totally sincere progressive comic is not a right winger in any sense and now theyre trying to kick him off campus. Youre struck by how this is kind of the left versus liberals . Its exactly as you say. This is sort of the left eating its own tail, as we say before, a canary in the coal mine, this is the logical consequence of this kind of rhetoric. If you are taught that speech is violent and you will resort to violence to suppress speech you dont like. Tucker exactly. Thats whats happening here. Its very antienlightenment. We spent centuries getting to the point where we dont burn people at the stake for the things they say and thats exactly what happening here. Tucker really nicely put, how would you like to run the Democratic Party with all of these people in it . Theyve unleashed forces that cant control and i would be afraid if i were them. Thank you for that, that was insightful. Thanks. Tucker a baby in canada has been born without the first one born without any official sex. We will talk to a psychotherapist about it after the break. Theyre experts in things you havent heard of researchers of technologies that one day, you will. Some call them the best of the best. Some call them veterans. We call them our team. How to win at business. Step one point decisively with the arm of your glasses. Abracadabra. The stage is yours. Step two choose la quinta. The only hotel where you can redeem loyalty points for a free nightinstantly and win at business. I realize that ah, that 100k is notwell, a 103fortune. Yeah, 103. Well, let me ask you guys. How long did it take you two to save that . A long time. Then its a fortune. Well, im sure you talk to people all the time who think 100k is just pocket change. Right now were just talking to you. I told you we had a fortune. Yes, you did. Getting closer to your investment goals starts with a conversation. Schedule a complimentary goal Planning Session today. Tucker for all of our lives weve lived in the world of boys and girl, but that is changing along with Everything Else in 2017. In canada, that country directly to our north, the parents of a baby successfully petitioned for the child to have no sex listed on the i. D. Card. Things may not stop there. They probably wont. The gender free i. D. Coalition is calling on the government to eliminate sex and gender classifications for all children throughout the country. Are we ready for a world here were baby boys and girls are baby something far less. Psychotherapist joins us now. Thanks for coming on. Thank you so much for coming on. Tucker these are questions that didnt exist like 18 months ago. Homo sapiens have been around 300,000 years and for the most part, its kind of obvious will boys and girls were but we decided in a very short period of time that none of that is real and we are it because why . To be honest with you, we believe that people who are considered enter sex, people who were born with both sets of genitalia or have existed throughout human history. Tucker for sure. The federal government released a study in 2016 about 1. 4 Million People now identify themselves as transgender and canada isnt the only place thats doing this. Legislation was just introduced in washington, d. C. , and new york over the last couple of months to also have people that have parents who have the right to, on the childs birth certificate, not just say the child is male or female, but also x, or unidentified. Tucker i think you may be conflating two things. The number of intersex births in this country where a child has both sets, partially or fully phoned of genitalia, a little over 700 per year of about 4 million births. Very small numbers, tiny number numbers. Probably we can assume thats been consistent through time, and nobody is suggesting that you force a sex onto a child whose sex is not clear, but for most kids, overwhelming number of kids it is clear, so why should we pretend its not clear, i guess thats the question . A great question. If i had trouble finding accurate numbers as to how many children are born in this country who are intersex. I got numbers that say 1 out of every 1500 births, also 1 out of every hundred births. Tucker hold on, 1 out of every hundred births there is separate sets of genitalia . I dont think thats right. It doesnt have to go that far. There could be some sort of genetic i dont want to say abnormality, but an anomaly. Like a chromosomal anomaly. Meaning that gender is not necessarily based on genitalia. Think your other question is should we give people the right to say we are going to raise a child as nonbinary, meaning we are not going to raise a child as male or female, which is something that the couple in canada is doing. Tucker there are legitimate i think medical situations and you just describe some of them. Theres an open question and i would never deny that and you want to respond compassionately but thats not what this case is about. This case is about the idea that you get to choose what your sexs, which is a denial of biology and also i think is a psychotherapist he would agree, a cost to a child. If you say to a little kid i dont know if youre male or female, you decide, i dont think you are going to get a good outcome a lot of the time at all. Thats what people have never done that in human history. Nell the person who is deciding to do this with their child up in canada, i spoke to them on the phone, the point that they are making is that this child is a spiritual being having a human experience, not a human being having a spiritual experience. Its actually a very spiritual and devil and what its saying is lets let the child be a child and eventually the child will decide what it wants to be, how much it wants to identify as a boy or how much as a girl. This person is also saying that its not that im not going to raise the trial as a girl or boy, im just going to say to the child, you just be a child, just be an individual for a while, i have a government interfere with who you are, lets not put a set of preconceived notions about who you are unto you, lets just let you develop as a human being and eventually you can decide whether you want to be a boy, a girl or nonbinary. Tucker yeah, but you can actually decide and i for choic choice, there are a lot of biological reality is that im sad about that i would change im sincere that i would change about myself. Im not attacking anybody. Dont you think that biological reality matters and lying to kids and telling them actually you could be 67 or you could have blue eyes instead of brown, or whatever, those are lies and its never a good idea to lie to kids, is a . Nell i dont think its a lie, its actually giving more information at a younger age than we traditionally have. Im going to give a comparison. Its like raising a child to not assume that their heterosexual the way i raise my children is to say i dont know what theyre going to be and im not just going to assume that they are gay or straight. Tucker theres a difference here because whereas we dont know a lot about the biology of homosexuality we know a lot about the biology of sex because we know it begins in the chromosomal level. Theres a science piece to this thats being ignored by people fight people who i thought believed in science so thats why im a little bit confused. Nell i dont think its being ignored but i think what we are seeing in the federal study and whats come out in terms of the Census Bureau is that 1. 4 Million People dont identify with the gender marker they were given at first. We have to take note of that and say whats going on, that theres a fluidity about gender and its not necessarily rooted in biology. Tucker why does that not extend to raise . Nell tell me what you mean by that. Tucker ike and sam woman why can i say im a chinese woman and be taken every bit as seriously. Im not mocking you, im making a sincere point. Whats the difference. Nell its a great question. I think as we progress as a society some of these labels that we are putting on things, and i cant necessarily go to the race question, but one of the things i loved about your program as of late is that you are really into this idea of having a more Inclusive Society and being less separatist in terms of race, that we should be more inclusive. I think thats what we are saying, we are creating a space at the table for people to be to have option malady in terms of how they want to identify themselves. Tucker okay well as long as we are still sciencebased. As a child of the enlightenment im for it. Nell, thanks for coming on today. Nell think so much for having me, i appreciate it. Tucker a u. S. Veteran try to stop thieves at home veteran. 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They got away with their crime and rather than defending film for stores merchandise and honor home depot fired him he violated a strict policy to not chase shoplifters. At 70 he is struggling to find another job. Bitter. Thats it for us tonight. Good night from washington. Our friends at the the five in new york are ready to go. See you tomorrow. Kimberly hello, everyone, im Kimberly Guilfoyle along juan williams, dana perino, eric bolling and greg gutfeld. This is the five. It is the hearing that everyone will be watching. Oj simpson is up for parole this week. Will one of americas most infamous prisoners be set free. Its a crime saga that dan more than 23 years ago. 1994, Los Angeles Police in hot pursuit of a fugitive from justice. Nfl legend Orenthal James simpson wanted for the murders of his exwife nicole brown and her friend ron goldman
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