Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Story With Martha MacCallum 20180302

Things have gotten to the point that wheels are coming off of this presidency. Its not clear who has authority or what authority. Martha this side of the coin rooted more on the policy side. Senator joe manchin was asked that the way this president is doing things is leading to a more productive white house. I think its the more transparency the more openness. You can see a person who is willing to engage and talk about it. Hes not afraid to say hey, maybe the people who have supported me before might not like my position but i think its where we should go as a country. Thats your leadership. Thats what you are supposed to do. Thats what he is showing right now. Martha so which is it and can they coexist as the president fends off the russia investigation and same mull taken columbusously begins planning his reelection campaign. In moments we will talk to bill bennett. On a day of huge developments whats going on with Marc Thiessen who worked in the george w. Bush white house and Fox News Contributor and former advisor to hillary clinton. Good to see you both tonight. Good to see you, martha. Martha very different portrayed. Flip arent dial and think you are living on two completely different planets, mark. Look, both things can be true. There can be chaos in the really is quite remarkable. First comprehensive tax reform in 30 years. Biggest regulatory roll back in american history. The economy booming. You have got Foreign Policy he is driven isis out of his caliphate. He has reversed obamas withdrawal from afghanistan. He enforced obamas red line in syria. Gorsuch on the supreme court. The doing this much, with this much chaos. Imagine if there is no chaos how much he would accomplish. Martha raises the question. Which think the one person who doesnt seem all that ruffled by any of it is the president. Well, first of all, mark wins the spin award for that last comment. I think. Martha congratulations, mark. Thank you. Coexist. And i dont think they can. And i think while jokes aside, mark saying that imagine if he got his act together. There is no indication they would be. I mean, mark himself worked the beginning of the bush administration, it is not uncommon for the first year of a white house or for an administration to have growing pains. Thats not what this is. And this is also not governing by chaos. This is unintended chaos. And i dont think that that is serving the president or the American People well. Martha so ho how do you explain the fact he is working through his agenda in a way that the people who elected him seem to be pretty happy with. Well, look, i think you both know that i had the privilege of playing donald trump when secretary clinton practiced her debates. And the thing i said over and over again that drove her and everyone crazy was that on day one, i was going to pull us out of nafta, i was going to repeal obamacare, was something really beautiful. And we were going to have an absolute wall. And i know that there are numbers from heritage and from the white house itself. But he has gone 0 for 3 on the things that he promised the American People he would do on the very first day. Martha i dont know if thats true. Mark . Mark, go ahead. I think thats a factual matter. I give you back the spin award you just gave me. Look, its clear that he didnt get obamacare done. But, you know, one of the reasons why we dont have a wall. Martha they did repeal the individual mandate. Huge impact. Nobody gets everything they wanted. Obamacare is the law of the land. As i recall, Barack Obamas promise pass comprehensive Immigration Reform in the first year and didnt get that done. So we agree. A failure. In his case he didnt try. I mean, look. I think its very clear, the spin aside, that donald trump has accomplished a lot in his first year. But he is undermining, i agree with felipe that he is undermining it. Have you got. There is so much leaking going on, i think the only people that havent leaked from this white house are barron and melania. Im not even sure that i could vouch for them. Martha thats funny. He sets the tone. Martha i want to ask felipe a question about, for instance, the gun issue where the president has gone to the left of his constituency on this. Yep. Martha and you heard joe manchin talking about he is probably the only republican who could kind of get away with finding middle ground on this issue. If you live in an environment where you want to see change on that front, is that something that you are pleased with in this presidency . The problem is he is not going to get away with it and the democrats arent the problem. You know, if you watch the faces in the room yesterday at while i will admit was an extraordinary event where the president said many things that i think americans on the whole want to see in terms of gun control, they wont happen because the republican party. Martha the republicans are saying if there is anybody that can make it happen, its this president. Someone hasnt told the nra that someone hasnt told john cornyn that and john thune that look, i would like to be sitting here in a month and of all the things im wrong about to say that the president actually achieved gun control measures that he has talked about. I think thats a very, very tall order. And i think, you know, you saying who do we trust on these numbers. I think we have to trust on own eyes. There is another element here. There is an element of not just what you are doing, but how you are doing it and i think, you know, most americans, including most republicans dont like seeing the president acting out on twitter every day. Most americans, including most republicans, dont like that his children and that his inlaws work in the white house. And, again, i think he is his worst he is his own worst enemy. Thats not a style of governing. And i think if you look at it. Hillary clinton worked in the white house in her Husbands Administration there is a precedent there. Martha good point. You are both very good. I have to leave it there, guys. Good to see you both tonight. Coming in to join us bill bennett who worked for the Reagan Administration and george h. W. Bush administration. Is he the host of bill bennett podcast and Fox News Contributor. Bill, you haired the conversation. And really its like there are parallel universes going on. Folks work there burnt out. I dont think thats completely unusual that there is a lot of turnover. But i dont think that anybody anticipated that a Donald Trump White House was going to be calm environment given what we know about the way he works. Yeah, well up until the time of the campaign the most famous utterance of donald trump was youre fired. So were seeing a fair amount of that going on. There are suttle subtle subtlets here. Think of that charming Obama Administration for 8 years not getting a lot done and getting a lot of negativity done in the country. Meanwhile, a disorder can create an order. As you pointed out, martha, she suggested maybe there is some, you know, some point to this if not chaos, to this conflict. And its it has a creative aspect to it. But, we need to take it seriously. He cant have all the people who are most loyal to him leaving. But, there is no question. I love the line from the wall street journal today that said we disagree with donald trump in many things. Except for policy. Well, thats a pretty billing deal when you are president. Martha its a fascinating sort of dynamic. And i think you hear it ben sass. Bret went down a list of all these things, do you agree with this, yeah, i do, i do, i do. I dont like the way he does things. When you talk about the people who have left the white house, Anthony Scaramucci who was one of the one of the group who served as communications director, he was there for a very short time, lashing out. Were seeing a lot of lashing out from people who are no longer getting the access that they wanted. Just watch this. I want to get your reaction to this as someone who has worked in the white house twice. Sure. I see the fact that john has denied access to the white house of the president s strongest loyalist. There is fear, culture of fear. Culture of intimidation. People afraid to talk to each other. Coming from the president . They are afraid of the president. No, i think its the chief of staff. Martha a lot of people want to push out john kelly though. What do you think . I think john kelly fired him, didnt he . Martha he certainly did. In that interview he admitted to his credit thats one of the reasons why is he mad. Anthony scaramucci comes from a culture where you know you settle your debts and settle your debts in public. What he is proud often is i plunge the knife knew but i plunge it into your chest. There is that going on, too. But, lets look at the bottom line. I think the bottom line is the accomplishments. Mark ticked them off better than i could, a lot, both domestically and Foreign Policy. The judges, isis, the economy and so on. All these regulations. And the federal court bench is so important. You cant isolate yourself forever and you have to have a team. The amazing thing it seems to me, martha, is he is doing this under staffed. Not only are people leaving, they dont have enough people at the white house, the cabinet departments are understaffed. Partly the fault of the democrats. But, if as we heard earlier, you imagine what they could do with order. Imagine what they could do with a full team. Martha yeah, you know, it is interesting when you look at governing versus campaigns. There is two different kinds of teams that you need in place. I think that some of that is the struggle that we see going on with people who were long time loyalists. You know, who are now, perhaps, you know, leaving and people who are better for governing, not mentioning hope there. I think she was pretty well thought of all around. Go ahead, bill. Well, hope hicks. See, there is another thing. The media thing. Let me be politically incorrect. Hope hicks serves him very loyally. As you hear the story about hope hicks. They show one picture after another of hope hicks. Its like a models portfolio. The woman is absolutely stunning. Absolutely gorgeous. You cant comment on that i guess these days. Everyone knows it to be true. Actually your colleague ainsley commented on it if she looked like john sununu she would not be getting this kind of attention in the media or me. I dont mean to pick on john or me. Martha not to take away from what she has done. She has been really admired by everybody who works with her and we worked with her, too. I get what you are saying and i think there is merit to it . I dont detract at all from her abilities. Martha no, im not. We know whats going on here what the game is. So there is a lot of media hyperbole. Martha she is a fascinating character. Nixon white house okay. Martha thank you, bill. Good to see you tonight. Bill bennett as always. My columbine massacre share firsthand what they need to understand and they need to know about what comes now in the weeks and months ahead of them as they try to heal. And russian president Vladimir Putin says that his nukes are better than ours and they could easily destroy the United States. He has animations to prove it is this just talk or are we on the verge of a second cold war . Ambassador john bolton with his take on that and general kellys dire new warning about isis and how it is morphing and how we need to be concerned again about them here at home. They still have that one particular lust in life and that is to come here and do as many darch a damage as they. Vicks sinex. Breathe on. Martha developing tonight Vladimir Putin unveiling arsenal of weapons including Nuclear Weapons that he claims renders the u. S. equipment basically useless. It comes weeks ahead of the president ial election which cannot be lost in this conversation and putin, of course, is expected to wins a he always does. Is this more bluster than substance or are we on the verge of of a new dynamic in the latest version of the cold war. Chief National Correspondent ed henry live in washington tonight with the story. Hi, ed. Great to see you. You properly noted the key context here which is that election just being days away so Vladimir Putin is try will to rile up his political base. This is still deadly serious. Because i have spoken to some top u. S. Military Officials Say he is in fact billing up his Nuclear Capabilities and vowing that these weapons will be immune from intercepts so there is basically no stopping them. Putin talking about closing in on development of a new and improved kind of Nuclear Weapon that allegedly can override american missile defenses. Warning russia has successfully tested out actual Nuclear Propulsion engines that enable under water drones paired one Nuclear Missiles to travel great distances one top military expert i spoke to is what is really happening here putin does not have the money to build up both conventional and Nuclear Weapons. Is he picking the more lethal one while trying to exploit the fact that during the 8 years of president obama he did not investigate enough in the u. S. Nuclear arsenal. Something President Trump has been vowing to reverse u. S. Officials told our own Jennifer Griffin today that putin is worried about the pentagons plans to develop two new tactical Nuclear Weapons. Listen. Russia was and remains a big nuclear state. No one has linged to us. You listen to us now. And now because of the new Defense Budget of 700 billion, our military will be far stronger than ever. As the president s Nuclear Posture review made clear, america is moving forward to modernize our Nuclear Arsenal and ensure our capabilities are unmatched. Now, in other words, the white house is trying to counter putin which runs counter, of course, to the narrative democrats are pushing around special counsel Robert Mullens probe that the president will not stand up to putin. In fact, it was little noticed but today as well the Trump State Department revealed its approving a big military arms sell toe ukraine worth 47 million. So it can defender itself from russia that includes 210 javelin antitank missiles. A reversal of the Obama Administrations decision to not send heavy arms and only provide nonlethal aid to ukraine. This is a big deal, martha. Martha ed, thank you very much. Here now ambassador john bolton former u. S. Ambassador to the u. N. Fox news contributor. What do you make of the news today. Lets separate the hype. Military spending under obama dropped dramatically. Exclude the wars in iraq and afghanistan. This is huge. So the trump budget, while its sizeable increase doesnt come close to addressing over the long term the gap spha obama created. Crews missiles fly very low over the surface. Pop up at the target. Not Ballistic Missiles which follow Ballistic Missile trajectory. Something they have been working on for a long time. So are we. How operational they are, i dont know. Is it a week before the Russian Election . Sure, does Vladimir Putin have the slightest doubt who is going to win that . He knows how to fix elections when he wants to. This is a further effort to see whether the Trump Administration will push back i think threw needs to be a streebleg response to this to help give confidence to our friends in europe and around the world that were not going to but the up with this kind of russian effort. I dont think its a new cold war but i do think its Vladimir Putin trying to reassert russian predominance in eastern europe, eastern and Central Europe in the space of the former soviet union. Martha i want to get your thoughts on one other subject before we go. General kelly talking about isis. They have morphed and they are coming. They are returning to europe and they are not like defeated. They are just like morphing into something different. They still have that one particular lust in life and that is to come here and do as much damage as they can. Sure, the defeat of the isis territorial caliphate is a plus, obviously. The slow roll of the whole military effort especially during the Obama Administration allowed a lot of isis fighters and leadership to exfill trait out of syria and iraq to go to lynnia, tlibya and somali. The middle east while we are on the subject is in chaos. For example, the latest news that north korea is selling syria chemical weapons, goes with the nuclear react tore destroyed. Once north korea gets Nuclear Weapons, sales to iran, sales to any would be nuclear state. Its remains a very dangerous world and a lot of due bills are coming due in the Trump Administration. Martha very dangerous world. Ambassador bolton thank you very much. Good to see you as always. Coming up next mear here bombshell fox news exclusive. Raising this question tonight. Would the parkland shooting have had a very different outcome if police had acted differently in those crucial initial moments . That picture may tell the story. Broward Deputy Sheriff jeff bell breaking news here tonight. 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And why in the crucial first moments of action officers were apparently told to stand down and remain outside while the shooter was in the building. Instead of storming that building, which is the procedure that they are supposed to follow. Take a look at these dispatch logs obtained by fox news. At 2 32 p. M. A full 11 minutes after the shooting began, and police still didnt know where nikolas cruz was. They were commanded to form a perimeter, rather than go into the school. And by the time the swat team did decide to enter, cruz was already a few minutes away from the building buying a drink at a Subway Restaurant as you remember he had found his way out with other students as they were exiting the building, terrified for their lives. Here now exclusively broward Deputy Sheriff jeff bell. Thank you very much sheriff bell for being here tonight. The procedure says that they need to collectly run into a building when there is a School Shooting happening. Why did they not do that . Thats the milliondollar question on that why werent the first units go in the building and go go go like we are trained to too that. The call logs appear to be authentic and if those logs are correct and those commands should have been directed to get into the building, not set up the perimeter first on that. Martha who made the call to stand down or to stage as it was termed in that dialogue . In the notes your producers provided to me recognizes 17 s 1 which would stand for 17 sierra 1 would be the captain of parkland to give that command. Martha what do you think we need to have in terms of information to figure out what happened here . What do they need to be forthcoming with in terms of information so that everybody can figure out what happened here so that it never happens again . Well, i think what the union is prepared to state tonight is that were coming out and we are going to request total transparency from the sheriff and the Sheriffs Office. Our deputies that are working the streets are getting attacked by public comments, being called cowards in restaurants and coffee shops. And that has to stop. So the only way that were going to be able to heal as an agency and heal as a community and move forward is to be completely transparent with the public. If we did something wrong, we did something wrong. If we did not do anything wrong, then thats great, also. But we have to get past the finger pointing and the political posturing in this county right now so we can begin to heal and focus on the true issues that are behind this terrible tragedy which is the Mental Health status and this Promise Program in Broward County that we have. Martha in terms of sheriff israel, is he going to be forthcoming with these videotapes . I mean, i think back to the las vegas shooting. We still have never seen the videotapes. So who has control over these tapes . Who has control over the 911 calls so that the time line can be absolutely positively locked down and everyone can understand who made these calls and why. Well the dispatch centers will have access to the 911 calls both at Coral Springs and Sheriffs Office. We have that. The school board. Martha who has to okay releasing it . Oh, thats going to be from the Sheriffs Office itself and fdle. Martha do you believe he will. That is a question i do not know the answer to. Can i only plead with the sheriff and the Sheriffs Office to release this information so that a deputies can stop being attacked in public and being called cowards, which rightfully should not be called actions of a few people should not taint the hard working men and women of the Broward County Sheriffs Office and other officers. Because of the political posturing we have going on in Broward County, we have forgotten about the real issue and we failed to give proper recognition to some of the people that risked their lives that day going into the building. For example, the Broward County swat team. The Broward County crime scene and the canine unit and the Coral Springs Police Departments that selflessly went inside not knowing if the sheriff was inside or not. Those guys have been the forgotten topic on this and mr. Cruz is suddenly not the topic of the conversation. Its about whether something did or did not happen. Weave need to move past that to move forward with the healing process down here. Martha sheriff, thank you very much. And obviously we will, you know, i know no one wants to hear these calls and see these tapes in many ways. They have to be seen and heard as you point out in order to determin where the accountability lies and get to the stage where we can learn valuable lessons from what happened here. Sheriff, good to see you. Thank you. Martha also tonight, the search for answers continues as parkland students and staff bravely reenter their school for day two. My next guests know all too well what they go through. Former columbine and teacher paula reid have offered honest and at times hardtoherein sight in a u. S. A. Today piece. Dangelo says quote the smell of the food in the cafeteria can trigger memories for some students. A fire alarm sound certainly will. So might sirens or the sound of a slamming door sight of clothes or police cars can frighten kids. Frank d deangelis. I thought your assessment, frank, was so potent in terms of the triggers that exist for these kids. Whatted a vice do you have for them . Well, i think just being aware of it and one of the things, you know, paula and i were having a conversation before coming on air, and we wish that we would have had the help that we are able to give now and the people from sandy hook and some of the other places because, for us, it was a lot of trial and error. And i know when doors slammed or even a car back firing and i remember the first day back over Chatfield High School because we couldnt go into columbine, parents had put up an arch way of balloons and balloons started popping and kids started diving on the ground. Stuff that we never thought about that would retraumatize these kids. The difficult things they are all in different places and depending on where they were that day, those triggers could be more intense or less intense for others. And it was a learning process for all of us. Martha paulla, you said or i think it was you or another teacher quoted in the piece said that the kids their brains are traumatized. And its hard for a traumatized brain to learn. So how do you sort of have, you know, build this transition for the kids to get them back to the point where they can accept learning again in an open way . Well, its not so much an acceptance issue as it is that trauma actually does rewire the brain and actually makes changes in the brain that take a while to heal from. And so what you kind of have to do for quite a while is you play school. You make sure it looks like school, it feels like school. But new learning is not something that can happen right away. They do have to get to the point where they feel safe again. And they can focus on their studies. And its very possible that they wont be fully back to that place even by the end of the year, given the time of the year right now. So, its a matter of making it feel normal again but, for example, instead of having my students do all of their reading because your powers of concentration really get shot in trauma, i read out loud to them and they followed along. And that way they had both, you know, the hearing and the vision and it made it go faster. Its also sort of comfortin comg even in a High School Level when you have gone through Something Like this. Worse things than feeling second grade emotional comfort. Martha you make exlengths point and good advice. Franks, in terms of Going Forward and when they came back there were all these people there, all the police there, everybody cheering them on. They had horses there and animals and everything they could think of to feel comfortable. All of that goes away in time and then what do you recommend . And what i told them and i have been in contact with principle thompson and cabinet superintendents cabinet and i said its a marathon and not a sprint. I think the thing thats so frustrating at times is they are going to have some great days and thinking gosh, everything is getting back to where it was and then something happens. A fire alarm. There may be a threat. And all of a sudden they are retraumatizing and saying oh my gosh, we are right back to where we were. I said this is part of that healing process that there is going to be ups and downs everything is going to be there. Its going to be a long time. People ask when is it going to get back to normal. You know, its been a month. Why are you still concerned about this . We had to redefine what normal is. This is a lifelong process. You know, these scars they say will heal with time. The stars they get will be there with us forever and it will be for them. Martha frank and paula, thank you very much for being here. Good to hear from you tonight. Good advice. Thank you. Martha so coming up next, several new investigations have just been launched into the u. S. A. 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There is no remedy for what 260 girls and women allege happened to them the federal government and two states are demanding answers and solutions so it wont happen again. Last night three american gymnasts met with two senators on capitol hill and detailed the abuse they suffered at the hands of dr. Larry nassar. Afterwards, republican jerry more ran and democrat Richard Blumenthal said, quoting we are hopeful for renewed commitment from all olympic organizations to irradicate all sexual abuse and other misconduct and to raise a generation of athletes who feel safe in competing in the sports they love. The House Oversight committee is also investigating and a primary focus of that congressional inquiry is the Karolyi Ranch in texas. Governor greg abbott has ordered the Texas Rangers to investigate the sexual abuse allegations there. So far the rangers are not releasing details. The karolyis will say they had no knowledge of the accusations before hand. They have been named maddy larson owho says careless and neglectful adults made the ranch the perfect environment for abusers. This week a Bipartisan Group of michigan lawmakers unveiled out package of bills to fight sexual abuse. Remember, larry nassar is a former member of Michigan State Sports Medicine staff. The legislation includes extending the statue of limitations on abuse claims and increasing penalties for possessing child pornography. Jordyn wieber was at the rollout. Watch. Powerful institutions of our federal and state governments, the u. S. Olympic committee, u. S. A. Gymnastics and Michigan State university all failed to believe the victims and stop a serial child molester. This must never happen again in michigan or anywhere else. Finally u. S. Olympic committee ceo Scott Blackman has resigned citing his battle with Prostate Cancer but critics say his resignation is long overdue. Martha . Martha trace, thank you. Here now exclusively, Jordyn Wieber, olympic gold medallest and a member of the famous fierce five team from the london 2012 summer games. We all remember, jordan, your incredible performance. I watched it again today. You are just a strong powerful athlete and woman and you say that all of that, all that training and everything you did was not as hard as what you have had to do in the past months with this. Explain that to us. Thank you for saying that, first of all. I mean, going through Something Like training for the olympics, i truly thought that would have been one of the most intense and difficult things i would have to deal with and go through. Honestly processing the sexual abuse that many athletes have been through and what i personally have been through over the past few months and understanding how all of these organizations, Michigan State, usa gymnastics all failed us. Its really hard to process. Thats been this has been even more difficult but you know, being an advocate and fighting for these changes now here in washington, d. C. Martha good for you. Its put meaning to everything. Martha i have spoken to some of your colleagues and other members of the fierce five who feel that way. You guys have done a great job of sticking together and supporting each other because i know you went through all of this together. In terms of culpability, you know, these other institutions that you point out, michigan, the usoc. The Karolyi Ranch, do you believe that all of these people understood that there were complaints and knew what was going on . I truly believe that there are a lot of things pushed under the rug there was a lot of the different types of abuse going on. Not only at the Karolyi Ranch but in many different gymnastics clubs acotc country. Not only sexual abuse but psychological abuse. Verbal abuse. All of these things were going on and i think the karolyis were sort of the first people that brought that to the United States and kind of made this the culture and environment of gymnastics. Martha they were romania coaches and they were brought here and everyone thought this is so fantastic because we will have these amazing gold Medal Winners because they are so tough and strong. You say they starved gymnasts to the point where they delayed their puberty . I mean, when you would go to the Karolyi Ranch, you wouldnt get very much food and quite honestly there is a lot of pressure coming from not only the National Team staff but all of our coaches to be a small as you possibly could. And so that was a lot of pressure that we were dealing with so he woodland restrict our calorie intake and then we had somebody like larry nassar come in who would offer us snacks. And that was all part of his grooming process which i now know all about. Martha perfect cocktail that was. He was the only male who was allowed to enter the girls gymnast dorm any time he wanted, right, any time of night. Right, and if there was an emergency at the ranch, larry was the one that we called. We didnt know who else to call. Martha i am curious about the karolyis, i know greg abbott, the governor in texas is investigating them now. Do you believe that they are guilty of anything criminal in any of this . You know, i cant say exactly. I think that there needs to be an investigation done. I think first of all, this is a classic case of, you know, powerful people protecting powerful people. In this case the karolyis and u. S. A. Gymnastics and usoc. Its all of these people for some years putting reputation and money and medals over the protection of athletes. I think its time that we take a serious look at that and maybe it starts with the decertification of u. S. A. Jim that the sticks but i think there also needs to be a criminal investigation done of all of these organizations and people to figure out how this possibly could have happened. Martha Jordyn Wieber your country is proud of you for your courage for standing up for yourself and fellow athletes. Jordyn, thank you very much. Stay strong. Thank you. Martha you bet. So, coming up, one of hollywoods biggest stars chris pratt guardians of the galaxy and everything else, he is under fire tonight because he had the gull to go on twitter and say that he was praying for another actor who he admired. The director of clerks who had a heart attack. Is he getting enormous amount of backlash for having the gull to ask others to pray for him, too. E and cholesterol. But they might not be enough to protect my heart. Adding bayer aspirin can further reduce the risk of another heart attack. Because my Second Chance matters. Be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. Hey much man, its me. I had a massive heart attack and almost died the other night. Sunday night. Martha healthcare for kevin smith directed fellow Actor Chris Pratt to offer well wishes. Kevin, we dont know each other too good im praying for your cause because i believe in the healing power of prayer. Can you please pray with me, people apparently some on social media were just appalled by that writing things like this. Great, now i wont enjoy your films as much knowing you are a jesus nut. Joining me now Meghan Alexander author of faith in the spotlight and inside edition. Good to have you here tonight. Welcome to you. Thanks, martha. Martha is it part of your deetys master plan that kevin have a heart attack . Kind of incredible. Twitter, unfortunately from the top down a lot of desire and independence to say what they think. Some of it is down right mean. A agree. This is a fascinating conversation to see play out on social media over the last couple days. And the different ways that people grieve, that people react, that people want to extend or express goodwill or good wishes. But i think were forgetting that there are a lot of people in this country when they say you are in my thoughts and prayers they really mean it. You look at somebody like chris pratt. Faith is a big part of his life. He has been vocal about it in social media before and interviews. Kevin smith said we shouldnt be fighting over. This i appreciate all the prayers. I want all the help and prayers that i can get. So i think we got to remember that when somebody says im praying for you, they really may be doing it and faith is an important part of their life and thats a way of taking action. Martha also just manner and respect for people and just stay out of it. Let him say what hes to say with regard to this and people dont need to have these inside awful comments chiming in. Its just a bad environment in that regard. Quick question. One the movies that is expected to be up in the running for best picture three billboards which i saw last weekend is getting a lot of backlash. Lets play this little quick clip and then you can tell everybody what the controversy is. Hey you, what the hell is this . Advertising, i guess. I could arrest you right now if i wanted to. Before do you that how about did you go have yourself a look at that first billboard over there. Martha whatsth controversy surrounding that scene and that character and tell us about it. Yeah, you know, martha right now i think the conversation is this movie addresses sexism, a Strong Female lead, a very well but not necessarily racism. And perhaps at the end of the movie a lot of people feel that it doesnt redeem culture in terms of having it being a teachable moment and how wrestling with these issues. I think hollywood is continuing to decide what is art. Is it an escape . Is it Just Entertainment . Or is it something that changes culture that effects change in culture . That is something that hollywood has wrestled with. Oscars are other. Couple of days. We will see on sunday what they decide and if theyre paying attention to this. Martha interesting conversation. He redeems himself but not enough for some people in the end. Meghan, thanks, good to have you here tonight. Thanks. Martha more of the story when we come right back. Dont we need that cable box to watch tv . Nope. Dont we need to run . Nope. It just explodes in a high pitched yeahhh. yeahhh try directv now for 10 a month for 3 months. No satellite needed. Were all under one roof now. Congratulations. Thank you. How many kids . My two. His three. Along with two dogs and jake, our new parrot. That is quite the family. Quite a lot of colleges to pay for though. A lot of colleges. You get any Financial Advice . Yeah, but im pretty sure its the same plan they sold me before. Well your situations totally changed now. 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