0 >> they are flailing around. a premium subsidy doesn't help if your deductible doubled. it doesn't help if you lost your docker to. the premium subsidies aren't a solution to begin with for people losing their doctors, seeing deductibles double. they are offering premium subsidies -- used to be for low income the people. now they are offering it to middle income people to cover health insurance they don't want or need. we are going to build a taxpayer now just not for low income people to get substance abuse care and but we'll do it for middle income people, too. so let's bill the taxpayer for the disaster. >> and there is a real question about whether there is more money for that kind of thing. >> yeah. >> and can president obama do it by executive order, get the approval of the congress for his so-called fix? all questions that we'll examine in the days and weeks to come. marc, thank you. >> thanks, megyn. >> it was just a little more than 24 hours ago we were seeing the president's attempt at damage control over the broken pledge that americans could keep their plans, period. a number of analysts today suggested he possibly made things worse. the fact checkers are out on the president's remarks last night. leslie marshall is a radio talk show host and a fox news contributor. lars larsen joins us as well. there was fact checking b about how these are all sub par plans supposedly and people don't have to worry. he challenged the president on that as we have because we have had witness after witness, if you will, come on saying loved their plan and they are sick and tired of hearing the president say they were lousy. >> megyn, imagine the incredible arrogance of the president who defrauded america. he lied to the american people to sell the plan. then he say it is reason you are losing it is it was a lousy plan to begin with. that's not the government's job to decide but the president decided we are going to kill your plan and force you into a plan we tell you is better. but on the numbers it's not. marc says even with the subsidies if you have a much higher deductible it doesn't make a difference to your family if you don't reach the deductible you are paying out of pocket. all the subsidy means is the insurance company gets more money and america gets more debt. >> he came out and talked about how it's only 5% of the population. the individual insurance market which is 15 million people. there are reports that when we get to the employer sponsored insurance and the mandate on those people we could be looking at over 100 million policies that will be altered significantly or cancelled. >> the employer sponsored insurance programs, over three-quarters of testimony meet the legislation. i don't think the president's 5% will be off. when you look at 15 million, 6% of those who have insurance in our country, yes, some will be losing. what bothers me even though i'm a democrat is it's only 5%. i think 5% is a lot compared to the population. >> trying to down play it. >> yes. that bothers me. medically and not just politically. what we need to do, not just the president but as a nation the transition has been abominable. the bottom line is the president has to do something. our representatives have to do something to come together on this. >> what about the plan? if they are thinking of giving premium subsidies to people who didn't need them before and don't want the coverage that they are going to fay for now, how will the public react? >> they should react to it viciously. here's what will happen. you have a plan already. for example, in my neck of the woods, a single individual who makes up to $46,000 a year already qualifies for subsidies. a family the of four making up to $90,000. these aren't poverty cases yet the president plans to put them on the dole. i take it seriously that the president said this is the food stamp president. he put more americans on food stamps than anybody ever has before. now he obviously intends to put tens of millions of american families, some middle class,s on a form of welfare through their insurance. >> leslie, we are looking at $17 trillion in national debt and now he's talking about giving premium subsidies for policies they didn't want when they were paying for their own policies with which they were perfectly happy until obama care. >> that's going to cost more money. congress won't approve it and you need legislative approval for that. do i think the president is talking about it? yes. what is a good idea is to extend the insurances for people to the end of the year that have their plan and like it. but they will change going forward as insurance plans often do to extend the enrollment period to the period of time i believe it takes for the website. end of the month if that happens. but not to delay for one year the individual mandatele although i think the president will think about that. >> i don't want to delay -- megyn, i have to tell you. i don't want it delayed. i want it done away with. >> not going to happen. >> you can try to give people policies back. >> they have already been kicked off t. the relationship with the doctor was settled. >> impeachment. >> thank you. we saw polling from pew research showing the president may have more than health care to worry about. charles krauthammer is on it next. first on "the kelly file" secret service agents never talk. one joins us live. wait until you hear what he has to say about his time in the obama white house. huh...fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yep, everybody knows that. well, did you know the ancient pyramids were actually a mistake? 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