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That will not end up well for biden, i will tell you that. Laura we will pick up the baton where you left off, sean fantastic tonight. I am Laura Ingraham and this is the ingraham angle. Impeachment fever is sweeping congress, and we have an all star lineup to take you through every angle. Our legal experts Sol Wisenberg, Alan Dershowitz break down everything you need to know, Rudy Giuliani responding to a breaking story to the Washington Post regarding his role in the entire ukraine affair. Mc and Andy Mccarthy is here with shocking details about the lawyer representing the whistleblower. H g. O. P. House whip Steve Scalise with all the consequences, caving to the radicals in the caucus, but first, desperate democrats go to defcon 1. That is the focus of tonights angle. It looks like we are ending trumps first term where it began, with members of the resistance burrowing in the government leaking incomplete information with the worst possible spin on it. All done to ensnare the president and another major costly investigation. And, in january 2017, it was comey and the deep state. September 2019, it is nancy and the whistleblower gate. Today, im announcing the house of representative is moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry. The president must be held accountable. No one is above the law. Laura as of this hour, zero republicans, but at least 179 House Democrats are in favor of impeachment. And why . Because a phantom whistleblower reportedly claimed the president used with withdrawing aid from ukraine to pressure that country into investigating joe biden and his son. Now, the irony is that the case trump wanted investigated involved biden himself threatening to withhold one billiondollar aid package to ukraine if supposedly a corrupt prosecutor wasnt fired. He actually bragged about it. Well, that prosecutor was investigating the company burisman on whose board of directors hunter biden sat. And also boatloads of cash they paid him. Oh, the fact that glossed over by the mob media today, the whistleblower has no firsthand knowledge of the president s conversation. Oh, but none of that matters. The actions taken to date by the president have seriously violated the constitution. I think what is going on is the president committed several impeachable offenses. These horrible obviously impeachable offenses. S and other impeachable offense. B hee is the most corrupt president in american history. Laura now, he has, the democrats if nothing else, they know drama. Congressman john lewis kicked off todays festivities pouring on the emotion. Today, i come with a heavy heart, deeply concerned about the future of our democracy. And im not alone. Laura this insunday year incendiary drumbeat had this effect all day long on the market. The dow plunged 200 points before bottoming out around 1 00 and recovered after the white house said it would release an unredacted transcript of the ukrainian president. But then it sunk back by the end of the day when investors anticipated pelosis big impeachment announcement. New calls for impeachment hitting wall street slams after democratic congressman john lewis called to begin impeachment proceedings against the president right now. Nancy pelosis meeting behind closed doors with the House Democratic caucus, the speaker to hold a News Conference immediately following that meeting. Laura now, theer most sickening thing about the phase and it is a phase that we are about to enter, is that House Democrats, they know impeachment, the whole inquiry isto futile. The Senate Republican majority is not going to vote to convict the president , and the country overwhelmingly does not want impeachment. What i think most people do want is a continuation of what the president has already delivered america. Peace and prosperity. The truth is, despite all of the dire predictions of a looming trump recession that started at the hand of last year, that seems highly unlikely. T so democrats are in an unenviable position going into 2020. That is why they could not even mention the economy at all at the last debate. Instead it was all hes a racist, white nationalist, xenophobe and other personal attacks. Anything but a serious discussion about how they would outperform trumps economy. An look, it is just a continuation of a witch hunt. The worst in history. The strongest economy that weve ever had to come with thebest ue ever had. Africanamerican, asian american, hispanicamerican, the lowest in history, and they will lose the election. Ri they figure this is the thing to do. Laura why with the democrats risk destroying the best economy in the world . The president is right here. Why would they risk hundreds of entrepreneurs and workers with wage increases or families who now have more money in their pocket . Its not just the president with a hint about that. Earlier today, nancy pelosi inadvertently revealed the reason. What is more serious is that he cant win. That is very serious to our country. Laura oh, yes, he can win nancy. And you and the overzealous radicals and your caucus could very well be helping him seal his second term. Beyond the grandstanding culminating today, the democrats prove once again, they are incapable of putting the greater good of the country ahead of their own hatred of trump and their thirst to regain power. Pushing the Nuclear Button of impeachment, it is an admission they are not competent. Not in their ideas were in their candidate. Cant beat them . Impeach him. Hey, why dont they put that on a bumper sticker. And that is the angle. Joining me now with reaction, Sol Wisenberg former deputy counsel and Fox News Contributor and Alan Dershowitz, author of the book the case against impeaching trump. All right, sol, lets start with you it does pelosi inquiry announcement actually mean anything more than what we know now or is it just more posturing . Is this a serious step towards an Impeachment Vote down the road . In and of itself, i dont see how it means anything. All she did is, i think Andy Mccarthy was the first person to point out today severall hours ago, all she did is stand up and say these five different committees which are investigating things they dont like about the administration tre out calling them part of an impeachment inquiry. Its not like it was in watergate where there was actually a vote to authorize an investigation based on the saturday night so, no, i think it is completely for show. Alan, new details tonight from ed henry about the whistleblower. Senior Administration Officials are telling fox that apparently the whistleblower did have some political bias in favor of a rival candidate of President Trump. The official doesnt have the name of the rival candidate and the whistleblower supports biden or another specific candidate, but look for the administration to highlight that. Each site is going to put out helpful facts that are to them, thats how these cycles go. We have seen it before, but this does have some odd parallels does it not, to what happened with comey in the beginning and the march towards using leverage of government to stop this presidency. Look nancy pelosi is right. What she said is no one is above the law but that Means Congress is not above the law. Congress may not impeach a president unless the president m has committed an impeachable offense. The constitution sets out what the impeachable offenses are. You dont go around convicting the president , verdict first trial later. Alice in wonderland type of injustice. They have not even seen the material. They havent seen the transcript of the conversation. They dont know enough about the whistleblower. Nobody, nancy pelosi and nobody else, has mentioned a statute that this would violat, even if it were true. You have to find bribery. This isnt bribery. You have to find treason obviously not treason. Its not a high crime of misdemeanor, in fact nancy pelosi herself said it was a violation of the constitution. I dont know what that means. The only violation of the constitution im hearing about is congress violating the constitution if it impeach as the president for nonimpeachable offenses. Laura so congress then would be transgressing its own constitutional obligations under that analysis. Thats right. Gentlemen, pelosi, speaking of this issue, she seems to have her own standard of what coons states state the constitution states is a quid pro quo. Watch. There doesnt have to be a quid pro quo, that is his political opponent, that is self evidence that it is not right. You dont ask for in government to help us in the election. But what is the crime . Where . Wheres the beef . I dont get it laura it doesnt matter. It doesnt matter because they have devolved now into saying well, it is self evident, and this is a pattern of corruption again going back to the russian inclusion narrative. So they are using russian collusion and kind of a whole stack of tidbits that they are putting together with big impeachment sandwich they are dining out on. But that is where we are at. But to alans point, is this a crime rising to a level of a misdemeanor . If it even happened . Well, i dont believe and i may disagree with dershowitz on this point. I think most scholars would agree with me that high crime or misdemeanor is not compliant to a criminal code crime that you can impeach somebody for a serious breach of the Publics Trust, public corruption and the like. However, we dont know if we have this here. It is really shocking to me that these people couldnt even wait one day to read the transcript and cant wait. Apparently, we get the full list of a whistleblower report in a week or so. Its just shocking to me that you would try to start the stampede without actually looking at the materials. I find that very troubling. And i also want to say that i find it also troubling when someone mentioned earlier, i mean, how does a whistleblower even know about this . How do people even know about this conversation, what kind of leaking is going on . I think that is very concerning. But my main point go ahead sorry. You also have to look at the constitution. The frame has debated this. Some of the framer said abusive should be enough for impeachment. They had a vote on it. The frame of the constitution said, no, that would give congress too much power. It would turn the United States into a parliamentary like britain. That is when they introduce the concept of bribery, treason or other high crimes and misdemeanors. Ru a high crime means crimes that involve corruption of office. When Alexander Hamilton admitted he committed adultery a serious felony unpaid extortion money but tonight he paid it out of treasury funds. He wrote the federalist paper about impeachment. He knew the difference. If he had just paid extortion money,nt that would be low crime but if he paid out of treasury funds, it would be high crime because it would involve crime and corruption. So, with respect, i disagree. I think you need both m the crie and the crime that is a high crime that shows maladministration of office. Laura i wonder, hold on one second because i want to think, you have to wonder and this idea that this is playing right into trumps hands, it seems to make more and more sense to me because, as soon as the democrats announced the aimpeachment inquiries, he twes a produced video of democrats calling for his impeachment as if they knew the whole thing would happen all along. And, then, since then, i get to the White House Counsels Office and they decided to, the doj released the full transcript of the call, the whistleblower complaint release h the ig report, and thy are allowing the width whistleblower justified. How does this, sol i will go to you first, how is this the watergate coverup playbook whichh supposedly really smart people on television all day long citing watergate without an eye about it on the other side of the camera . Ive never seen anything like it. I have no idea what they mean by comparing it to the watergate coverup. The story just broke a day ago and now attorney general barr has said that the fullr transcript will be released and apparently the report is going to be released in about a week. But, again, i am going to wait okay, i dont know whats in the transcript. I dont know whats in the report. Im going to wait to actually read it. To professor dershowitz point, i think he was talking about george mason the Constitutional Convention tried to make mallet maladministration a grounds for impeachment. But i dont think those are mutually exclusive. I think that if you have a a serious t breach of the Publics Trust andf corruption, that can be impeachable. But thats got to be, even if we disagree about that, thats got to be pervasive. Thats got to be really serious. And weve got one alleged event and we dont even know what it is. So subjective, you know . I think we need objective criteria, and that is what the constitutiondemands because constitution demands because congress didnt want to give authority to vote of no confidence the way the Israeli Parliament has it now or the British Parliament has it now. We have executive system in which the president is the executive authority, and he gett to make Foreign Policy. Congress gets to legislate and congress doesnt get to remove the president unless specific constitutional criteria in that. Laura i think we should have a rapoff like citing federalist papers and go back and forth and continuing education credit for both of you. Its really fun. Joe biden has had a bit of anev evolution in his own thinking on impeachment. This is what he sounded like today when pressed. This isnt a democratic issue or republican issue. It is a national issue. It is a security issue. Em it is time for this administration to stop stonewalling and provide the congress with all the facts it needs. Including a copy of the formal complaint made by the whistleblower. Laura well, this is what he said back in 1998. The American People dont think that they have made a mistake by electing bill clinton. And we in Congress Better be very careful before we upset their decision and make darn sure that we are able to convince them if we decide to upset their decision that our decision to impeach him was basedd upon principle and not politics. Laura i like that dramatic pan out of cspan that night. He was right the first time. He was right the first time. Because, otherwise, it just becomes a partisan, political tool. That is why you need objective criteria that has to pass the issue. If he would impeach a democrat on the basis of this criteria. You can impeach republican and vice versa. You cant have special rules for the party that you oppose. That turns the constitution into a political weapon. Laura i mean, another question sol is this, the democrats know the senate is not convict the president on, lets sayes they go through the whole process and vote to formally impeach him. The senate will not convict him. But it will run the narrative right up to the next campaign. This campaign into the 2020 season, right smack dab in the middle of it. I think that lands even more persuasiveness to what Alan Dershowitz is saying. Thisne starts to look like a political solution. To what they may not be so confident about next november which is, you know, removing President Trump the old fashion way, at the ballot box. That is when it begins to look like when you make comments about a case. I think your being very prudent about it and i salute you for that, reserving judgment at the very least until the documents come out. But, no, they cannot do that. They want the news cycle like that. Well, here is the thing. Sometimes you can have an impeachment, a real impeachment investigation, and Public Opinion can change. Even though people were outraged by the saturday night massacre when the house first started its impeachment investigation of nixon, Public Opinion was much more closely divided than it was at the end because new revelations kept coming out and they discover things. So i suppose that is what Speaker Pelosi hopes will happen here. A i just dont see any evidence yet that it isis going to happe. And so very dangerous, very dangerous game for them to play. Laura we kept thinking it was coming in the Mueller Report. It was don jr. That was going to go to jail. This was going to happen, and all those things hinted at, but they never delivered on. Who predicted that on this showt, over and over again . You did. That there would be no impeachment, nothing found in the Mueller Report that even came close to giving rise to impeachable offense. It didnt happen. Laura panel, stay right there, and we will see later in the show. Theree is so much breaking news tonight, but first i want to bring in President Trumps personal attorney Rudy Giuliani. Rudy, first, are you in touch with the president . Have you spoken to him the last couple of hours or tonight, and what is he thinking . Of course, hes my client and i cant tell you what i talk to him about particularly at a time like this. It is a Attorney Client privilege. And i know the democrats do not respect that or any constitutional privilege the president has. But i think you are right they stepped into what they realize and it reminds me of a fighter swingingd wildly against a skilled fighter who has a great right hand and puts him right down. They have looked into something and i was hoping for six months but what theyd exposed is probably what it will turn out to be component of the major scandals in the early part of the 20th century which is joe biden. It is a lot of money, laura, not just ukraine. It is a very serious pattern of conduct, but the senate with his brother, enriching himself on bidens Public Office. The numbers got outrageous during the Obama Administration. 5, 6 million to a son who is a seriously incompetent person. Weve got to put on the board of the most corrupt company in the ukraine. I had the records of a 3 million laudered payment to mr. Bidens son. I have the records, the dates. It went from ukraine. Ask the two lawyers, thats called evidence of guilty knowledge. Laura rudy, rudy, i want toy, move the conversation forwd because weve hit this and had you on months talking about this. Nobody pays attention to it until now. Laura no, we paid attention to it in may or april. You, did none of the people in the corrupt media paid attention to it. Laura everybody has their own agenda. The democrats, i think what they are doing is covering up for what will turn out to be massive corruption in the Obama Administration. He got 1. 5 billion from china. 1. 5 billion from china laura the phone transcript thats going to be released an official telling folks from the white house tonight that there are a, quote, few words in the transcript that will raise eyebrows, but nowhere as inflammatory as the democrats have suggested. Is n no where near what biden or chris who should be impeached. He went to see the president of the ukraine and told the president of ukraine if you he cooperates with the president they will cut off aid. That is a quid pro quo. That is threatening. Nancy pelosi should be outraged at chris murphy. They should have impeached him. Laura a very interesting brew of quid pro quo. I dont even think shey announced quid pro quo, and i dont know what the crime is. The reality is, joe bidennd actually may have very well committed something called crimes, 1. 5 billion from china two years ago negotiating withcr negotiations. B. Laura they ever should have happened. It was an apparent china did not invest in their own challenged son with 1. 5 billion. They bought the Vice President of the United States and even if you are a democrat, you should be shocked by that. This Political Party is so corrupt, it stinks. When the Biden Corruption comes out, and we look how much moneyp clinton made off the secretary of states office. Look how much money kerrys stepson made in the same transaction. And who wasnt making money and the Obama Administration. Laura hold on because the Washington Post has a story out tonight and you are the focus, not a shocker. The whistle report on the trump call, it includes references to other developments tied to the president including efforts by giuliani to insearch himself into a ukrainian relations, rudy he did all of this, one u. S. Official said and this shows we him injecting himself into the process. Insiders saying you mucked this up. Your response. Man, you know who i did at the request of . The state department. I never talk to an ukrainian official until the statei department called me and asked me to do it. An and t then i reported to every conversation back to them. Laura, im a pretty good lawyer just a country lawyer, but its all here, right here. The first call from the state department. The debriefing of the state. Laura why are they out to get you . This story is filled wih unnamed sources, against. B. Ill compliment myself. Because i do a good job and they try to destroy everyone. They will not intimidate me. In fact, im going to work harder because i dont get intimidated by bullies. I have a chapter in my book about standing up to bullies. And i never realized the depth of the corruption. I always thought joe biden was intellectually was challenged but a nice guy. I never knew the depth of his corruption. Ands massive, its shocking if i played a role in getting that out, i do a service to my country and im proud of it. Everything i do is defensible and everything i did was legal. Most of what they are doing is to cover up for a crime. And i would happy to have been a they challenge me because every time they challenge me, they go down and we win. Because they are acting improperly. They are acting with abuse of power and the president of the United States conversation with that president , if you consider what a crook joe biden and hiss, how corrupt it was necessary and you cannot let the Vice President of the United States allow his son to enrich himself to the tune of millions and millions of dollars. Laura why are you the one to do this . Why is this the role of the Justice Department or the fbi . Why task you, the personal attorney of the president . That is a question, layman, i get it, that should be investigated, but why is rudy running the show on that . Why isnt it fbi and the main justice . That is a very good question. Because the fbi performance is the entire investigation including up to this moment is flawed. Why am i doing it, laura . I cant you figure it out . Im his defense lawyer. Im defending him. Hes my client. I dont know, only donald trump is not entitled to a defense in america. Laura but how are you defending him by investigating biden . Spell it out for us. Because one of the things that the prosecutor that biden had fired and then the prosecutor that biden helped to put in, one of the things they did was to dismiss a caseis against an organization that was collecting false information about donald trump, about paul manafort, and feeding it to the Democratic National committee. Laura okay, that explains it. I dont think people understood that. Th that was run by george soros who hired the crooked fbi agent who is now working for george soros. Laura, this stinks. This is tammany hall, new york politics to the tune of 1 billion. It is, it stinks. I spent my life as a prosecutor investigating crooked democrats, crooked republicans. I dont care who is crooked they should go to jail. These people abused power. You know what, the crooked press corps enables them. They dont cover them. They only cover republicans. There are two systems of justice in the country. They go after republicans if we Say Something wrong. They allow democrats to steal millions and they dont care. The clintons enrich themselves on Public Office to the tune of hundreds of millions. The bidens gott 1. 5 billion from china which had to be a deliberate act on the part of china to buy the vice presidency. Thats a lot of money to buy it. They didnt invest in the hedge fund because it made money. It made no money. The chinese ar. They dont spend their money for no reason. There is only one reason to spend that money it is to abide joe bidens office. It doesnt belong to him but the people of the United States. If a president cannot vindicate that, it is a sad day for america. Im proud of my president because hes trying to clean up a swamp that is much more than worst than the American People realize. It is disgusting. Laura schumer warned about the deep state. They will always find a way to get you. Not if you have courage. Laura people, hold on rudy, hold on. People inside the administration and ive said this from january 6th, 2017, they are leaking. There were people at the very beginning leaking and rolled all the way through the deep state and a lot of other people put on other networks as commentators. Itus is absolutely reprhensible. Rudy, there is a thing in the story, you cleared up a lot, and i dont follow every iteration because it is complicated because people dont follow it. It is complicated. And they are trying to cover it in a complicated way. Laura it is important people understand this because whenin they hear stuff, oh, i heard that spin and its wrong. What is the deal about this Ukrainian Ambassador to the u. S. Because part of this story again broke tonight is that you were putting big pressure on her as part of the scenario, u. S. Ambassador of the ukraine, excuse me. I was sitting in my office in november of 2018 and a very prominent investigation and both the gentlemen you had on came to me and told me, there is a story about the ukraine and what the democrats did that will shock you. And i didnt believe it at first. Biden wasnt d involved. It was all about collusion which by the way, is massive, right . And people were paying for it. And the American Ambassador was deeply involved. The fbi agent who was investigating it was deeply involved in it. Now working for george soros, the fbi agent is working for george soros making hundreds of thousands of dollars. She was involved in it back then. In january 2016, the Obama White House told ukrainian officials, go dig up dirt on trump and manafort. Nancy pelosi doesnt care about that. Laura who in the Obama Administration . The Obama White House, that was what was told to you . That is what is reported in the hill by john solomon. Ive seen some of the documents. And then, joe biden removes the prosecutor and said he didnt even know his son was under investigation. Thats absurd. That he never talked to his son foreign business . Do you believe that . Dont you think i can prove he did . Do you think im stupid . Do you think ive given you all my evidence . Laura rudy, question. They have walked into a trap. Laura so this is a gift to you. This whole thing is a big gift to the American People for transparency. You are darn right, it is a gift. Maybe, just maybe we willis finally investigate a democrat like we did a republican. Maybe, just may be the big Hillary Clinton fix. Like the fbi did. He to rat her out for a crime so horrendous and obvious anybody would be prosecuted. If biden gets away with 1. 5 million, then we dont have justice in america. We have lost the fbi and who knows what else. Laura we will bill barr, so there is no way you will lose it with bill barr. Inability to investigate this is astounding. You know how it first came to me . A prominent investigator telling me when here they were trying to get this to the fbi. You asked me why did i do it . Because the fbi didnt do their job. Maybe they are afraid they will expose crooked agents. I will show you the statements from five ukrainians that say and desperately tried to get the information of the fbi that we were blocked by the ambassador who eventually got fired. Laura we f were just hearing, by the way, hold onweg that trump is going to meet with ukrainian president at 2 15 tomorrow. Would you emphasize the fact that ukrainian president said it was not pressured. Laura this,kr again, is whee the kehms democrats have taken us. Laura for second is where the democrats have taken us. Ukraine said it was not pressured but the transcripts are coming out. He is the only one that counts as extortion. Laura rudy, we are out of time. It doesnt matter. Rudy, im sorry to cut you off but you have to get your voice back. We have a lot more of the angle to cover when we come back. Laura we have another fox news alert tonight. We just learned that one of the attorneys for the anonymous whistleblower that started impeachment insanity has deep ties to the democrats. Andrew who worked for Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton in 2001 and also a deep state alum who for yearss worked at the cia and the defense department. And that is not all. As we told you earlier, senior officials telling fox that the Trump Administration will also release a document tomorrow showing the Intel Community Inspector General found the whistleblower had political bias in favor of a rival candidate. Joining me now is Andy Mccarthy, Fox News Contributor and author of ball of collusion as well as former aide who to senator Chuck Schumer and host of progressive podcast. Andy, lets start with you, and rudy will join us later in the hour. Now, that would all seem to complement the matter, you know complicate, i should say, matters here, wouldnt it, if there is political bias that is already recognized and documented . Well, it would be something you would have to disclose if he was a relevant witness, laura. But i dont know why, frankly, anybody cares much about the whistleblower anymore. I know the democrats want the whistleblower on. As someone who used to try cases, once you have the evidence that the whistleblower is blowing the whistle about, the whistleblower becomes irrelevant. So if it turns out that the whistleblowers problem was the echange or the communication between President Trump and president zelensky and a belief there was a quid pro quo, tomorrow we are going to have this transcript that is reported. Once the transcript is public laura what is the difference between you and me and the whistleblower . What is the difference . We will all have heard the ertranscript and be able to make up our own minds about it. Laura it is interesting to know who is getting second and thirdhand information on calls the president having with foreign leaders. I find that that is a separate matter. That is a different problem. Laura that is a problem as, john, you and others have talked about. That is a real problem. Forget trump, president s going forward, but chris hahn lets go to you. There are documents coming out unredacted transcripts, ig reports, pretty much everything the democrats asked for, all coming out. Why pull the trigger on the impeachment inquiry today, the resolution, building, building building, why do it today . Why not wait until the documents are out, and then everybody can make their judgment . You know, nobody trusts the notes that were taken by the president s staff that are being called a transcript are everything that was said about those calls. We would like to hear from this witness that for some reason bill barr doesnt want us to hear from. Laura the white house is fine with that. And i just heard the president s personal, political attorney say that he was directed by the state department to go meet with ukraine to geted evidence on the president s political opponent. Now remember they controlledd congress for much of the Obama Administration, for the first two years of the Trump Administration and investigated hillary and clinton, obama all the time, yet Rudy Giuliani who hasnt practiced law since the early 80s says he has evidence come all this information. Hes making things up and if the bidens were not public figures commit would be lifeless. Im sure my friend the former u. S. Attorney would agree with that. Laura first of all, rudy is listening and he will respond to what you said. D. Good. Laura we will let you go on but first the Trump Administration did say, by the way, the witness, the whistleblower testified to. They have no problem with it. So that will all happen. All of that energy and emotion that you have will all happen. But laura, laura. Laura i got you, i got you take a breath. Andy, go. Im sorry. Andy likes the more couple of shows. Im sorry, andy. You have bee. Laura if you just heard trump and chris, that Rudy Giuliani involved in this, that is the problem and he is trying to put pressure on a Foreign Government to get dirt on a rival of the president. So is there a legal problem with that . I look, laura, i think this is all going to be investigated. I heard rudy talk about this for weeks. Hes been very open about what hes been doing and why hes been doing it. And sometimes, very surprisingly open about it. But as he pointed out to you hes not showing all his cards at this point. He may not have practiced criminal law. Im not sure if thats right to show 1980s, but since i was there in 1980s, i can tell you he is an extraordinary criminal investigator. So, you know, look, it is all going to be investigated. Ass you point out, the witnesses are being made available. Whatever this transcript is tomorrow is going to be made available, and we will see. Laura im going to bring rudy back in. Rudy, youve been listening to the conversation. I would like to say to mr. Hahn, i should sue you for libel because he irresponsibly said yes, please. You actually usually say incredibly stupid things. You are a public figure. Yeah, by the way, do you have any idea the state department shut up, moron, shut up. You dont know what youre talking about. You dont know what youre talking about, idiot. I do. No, you dont, you are just lying. I wish you would stop. Why dont you tell them, why dont you tell them to keep his mouth shut so we could tell the truth. Just keep your lying mouth shut. Laura keep it on facts. He said about me that i was asked by the state department to go dig up political dirt on trumps opponent. Totally false. The state department asked me. You said it. No, i didnt, you did, you liar. You did. Laura just let him finish and you can respond. So turn him out so i can speak. I do not want to be interrupted by that that serial liar. So, here is why i was asked by the state department. Its all documented. They called me to facilitate a meeting between the president and mr. Zelensky to help him do ythat. I met with the representative of mr. Zelensky. We never discussed any kind of pressure about a criminal case. We never discussed any kind of quid pro quo or pressure. So i am more than willing to have anybody talk to the person. That i talk to. Because everybody on the ukraine side said they were pressured which they werent. My conversation was to help the state department facilitate a meeting. An ambassador, an ambassador called me and asked me to do it. He set up the meeting or helped me to set it up. I debriefed him three times in great detail about it. And if that incredibly irresponsible person thinks that i would ever do anything that is illegal or unethical, maybe im kind of just a simple little lawyer and im not very goodod t criminal crisis or criminal investigations, but i sure as heck know how to protect myself and my client. It was a perfectly appropriate a perfectly legitimate and completely authorized communication, and its all documented. And, once again, the democrats just make false charges. Unfortunately, theyve gotten used to it because the media enables them to do it. Laura i want to read something Andy Mccarthy. I dont want you to have that man onhe because its irresponsible to say things about somebody when you dont know what you are talking about. Laura im going to read something and then let andy respond to this. You dont know what you are talking about you dont have any idea what youre talking about. I said what you just said. No, you didnt laura guys, youve got to stop. I read the transcript and i veknow why i was asked to do it. And you make your responsibles against the president and republicans all the time. You doy friend. Laura okay, guys. You dont like each other, lets move on. Lets move on to this. I want to after their substantive down point about the underlying hunter biden issue in Andy Mccarthy i want you to chime in. This is from the Washington Post tonight. They say the idea that this was you know that biden was trying to get this investigation dropped, the allegations were baseless, writes the Washington Post. He served on the board for five years, a questionable decision. A questionable decision his fathers influential position he was never accused of any wrongdoing by ukrainian authorities. The probe had been shelved before the action by the Vice President , efforts with a prosecutor widely criticized for failing to tackle corruption. Andy, that is what the democrats say about this, that this prosecutor was someone who was widely disliked as a corrupt person. So biden was following that. And you say . I say thats why god made investigations. Look, it seems to me that biden inserted himself into a situation where he had a clear conflict of interest. Ed laura bingo the fact that somebody has a conflict of interest doesnt necessarily mean that he will do anything that is illegal or unethical. If what they are saying is true then they should welcome an investigation because if they can prove that, then he will look pretty good. Wlets see wh. Laura chris, i think that is a judicious, prudent approach to the facts, do you agree that from Andy Mccarthy . Im always for looking into things that people are concerned about. I have no problem with that. Aom what i am concerned about is the president using his office to assert pressure on a Foreign Government for political gain. Laura you are making a statement, chris, that no, no, youre making a statement that is not born out by the evidence. That is what rudy is talking about. Im saying im against that. Look, im against that. And we dont know what happened with biden. And we are against that too. Look, i dont like getting into this fight with mayor giuliani. I have a lot of respect for him. We have worked kind of near eacr senator schumer. Right after 9 11. I admire everything he did at that point. And its said most new yorkers because you are ruining your reputation mr. Mayor. It is time to take it back and stop going on like this. Laura well st it makes me sad, it really does. He should be laura talking about each others reputations is not helpful. It is all new yorkers and they are sad. Is there any chance he would stop interrupting people . Can we get him under control . Laura rudy, go ahead. Close. That man made a seriousaccuss totally false that i was deputized by the state department to get involved, on a political opponent. That is not all what the state department called me about. That is not what i did. What he said was totally false. O totallyth false things on this before. You may have respect for me, but i dont have respect for you. The simple fact is that joe biden committed some serious crimes. Im going to tell you. Laura that has to be proved. We dont know that either. Laura go ahead, rudy. I probably know more of the evidence than any of you do. You probably dont, youve seen nothing. Laura im trying to apply the same standards to everybody, but i havent seen all the documents. Ive seen the laundered payment of 3 million. Ive seen the receipts of the payments that went from china for 1 billion and then 500 million to bidens son who shouldnt be running any private equity fund. I think i kind of understand the chinese. I dont think they gave it to him for his financial expertise, and theres only one reasonat lt to compromise the Vice President of the United States. That is disgraceful, chris hahn will say all kinds of false things. Im sad. Im sad for this country. Laura im sad that we i sd i know everybody gets emotional when under attack. Em you dont need to have somebody on that makes statements like that with flamboyant charges that are totally false. Laura im doing my best. All right, guys, thank you very much. Andy, thank you. What a disgrace. Laura there so much going on on this big breaking news night. How is the g. O. P. Leadership responding to Speaker Pelosi overreach . Next, and also on tap, we have a lot to get through. We will do it. From the couldnt be prouders to the wait did we just winners. Everyone uses their phone differently. Thats why Xfinity Mobile lets you design your own data. Now you can share it between lines. Mix with unlimited, and switch it up at anytime so you only pay for what you need. Its a different kind of Wireless Network designed to save you money. Save up to 400 a year on your wireless bill. Plus get 250 back when you buy a new samsung note. Click, call or visit a store today. Our job is to legislate, not to continue to investigate something in the back when you cannot empeach this president. She cannot unilaterally decide we are in an impeachment inquiry. Lambasting nancy pelosi for carefulling to the impeachment frenzy today. You can see next to him there is House Minority leader Steve Scalise. S will, the senior fellow of the harrer institution. If you look at this, nancy pelosi said from day one, jerry nadler, they were going to impeach the president there was never any pacts or basis. They thought the mauler report would find it. It came out and set there wasnt any collusion and instead of moving on to other problems, they did this. We will see the facts tomorrow. Pelosi didnt even wait for the facts shelf just said weve got to impeach the president. Look what theyre trying to do fancy pelosi spends more time bringing a bill to the floor to nameo a post office than they e does in bringing a bill to impeach the president of the United States is that where is the usmcg vote, all the jobs. Crisis at the border, lower drug prices. All of that. Laura this is what nancy pelosi says today before they se announced the impeachment. Said were getting close to a solution. Will anything get done for the American People now in the woman wants to basically politically kill him and hes still, maybe we can work together, thats pretty amazing. A lot of people couldnt do that but hes try doing to work for the American People. I think weve jumped the proverbial shark. Thissed administration started with this, and whats the next step after this is all oer. Donald trumps polls went up 2 or 3points after the latest kavanaugh pseudo drama and it is going to go up again, people have had it. The Mueller Investigation who is the beneficiary, laura . Half of your News Coverage today and the other networks is about joe w biden. Joe biden is no longer collateral damage, hes damaged and that imposed a latin praise whos interest is that . It is almost fast liz warren is the real e beneficiary and ironically, it will be donald trump, because warren is a far list formidable candidate. Where do we go beyond that. Michael flynns Business Partners case was thrown out which the judge of all people and we have criminal referrals that start to change into deems. Someone will have to shake the democrats and say youre helping donald trump and youve taken Whitney Houston of your pry mother opponents to him and disgracing yourself. Right to that point, this was today, okay. Everyone will recognize them, this is one of obamas top, top, top aides, David Alexrod saying this. You could end up, in fact, invigorating the president s chances. You could end up losing american democrats in the highways if people react poorly to this and you could end up with a president reelected. Its quite possible we will remember this day as the moment when President Trump secured his reelection because it is that politically dicey. Congressman scalise, a couple people around the edge seat danger for democrats. The country doesnt want impeachment. It could change but right now not looking good. This was a bad day for nancy pelosi. She has known from the beginning that impeachment is devastating to her heard but cant help herself. There is nothing to impeach the president on but yet the member pof congress who filed articles of impeachment himself to be sod they dont think they can beat the president so theyre going to use impeachment. If you look at the constitution, it ispe a check against the executive, nancy pelosi is trying to use the impeachment as a check against the electorate. We pointed that out in the and they will is a last ditch defcon 1 nuclear option, i dont think, victor, they thought the economy was going to go in a recession and it dipped down today but a because no one wants impeachment, they thought the recession is going to deliver them electoral nirvana next election. Their candidates are biden is having some trouble, warren is way out there, even though she is drawing big crowds. I dont think theyre confident as they initially might have thought they would be and i think that is freaking them out so theyre going to the squad. Whatever the squad wants, the squad gets. Victor. I think they dont understanding that when the mueller invest and his testimony imploded, then they went to racism,he recession. Then a kavanaugh again and now theyre repeating themselves, chasing their own tails. What is ironic, again is that trump has somehow demonized theyre so i dont know what the word is, demonized by trump or unhinged, they have a law or theorem when they get on that debate stage says no candidate shall be to the left of me, and they all have moved way far from anything he have weve every seen in the last 50years north america were in a position they cant propose an alternate agenda, because they are way down in the polls. Now we are necessaryry a jam, we cant run on the issues so they have so today go back to trump a monster. They do it acrosstheboard. This is what they all this is all they have. By the way, a really important piece from john, former deputy u. S. Attorney general, he was writing for the new the new y and it was just published about what that is going to the office of the president sy. We should be aware that any any impeachment could do longterm harm, president s and foreign leaders would speak less candidly or stop making the calls all together. The United States Foreign Policy would be crippled. Congressman. Very valid point, look what theyre doing. They wanted to get rid of this president , undue the election 20616, were going to have an election next year, this strengthened President Trumps can case, they hurt joe biden and helped liz warren, this is not a good day for them. Thats all the time we have for you tonight. Incredible analysis. We will have you back later this agweek. Phenomenal coverage tonight, the the details of this matter and we will give earn an opportunity to get their points in and hold everyone accountable. Shannon break take all the breaking news from here, shannon. Laura, thank you very much. Thank you very much. We begin with a fox news alert. The impeachment dam has broken, nancy pelosi opening the floodgates by launching a formal impeachment inquiry after months of stalling. She says the president crossed a line by pressuring the ukraine president to investigate joe biden and his son hunter biden over potential conflict of interest but are democrats jumping the gun . Even the whistleow