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That newly released audio discovered by our news partner sky news, the audio was recorded on september 10th, 2001. The first time were hearing, a, clinton admitted having bin laden, and why he let the terrorist go. Well take it around the table. Kick it off. He let him go. I dont think this is that stuping. I dont. Bill clinton we know could have gotten Osama Bin Laden when he was president two times. The fact that hes being thoughtful about this, and saying, i could have destroyed that small town in kandahar and killed 300 people. I think these are the tough decisions that president s make. I also know that bill clinton challenged the cia on the report that they were giving about, is this an exaggerating picture of Osama Bin Laden . Isnt that what president s are supposed to do . Look, i think bill clinton was one of the worst president s when it came to foreign policy. He gave the pakistanis the nuke. I dont know what is so terrible here with what bill clinton said. We are at war. We had a terrorist who was hellbent on killing americans. Wiping out not only israel, but also wiping out western civilization. He had the kill shot, he didnt take it because he was worried about sol villagers who frankly would have been Collateral Damage. We lost 3,000 americans the very next morning. Things may have been different. Thats the interesting thing. First of all, imagine if he had, if he had taken ubl out. Then there would be no 9 11. Then his decision to take ubl out would not be lauded, because there would be no evidence that he prevented 9 11, because you cant prove that something didnt happen. Therefore, it is almost a nonsensical argument. Hillary clinton got a rapist off. Bill clinton let a terrorist off. I cannot condemn clinton for this other than that he likes to tell stories. And this is what happens when you tell stories. Sometimes the stories come back and bite you in the butt. And sometimes the stories get exaggerated. I spent half of today trying to remember why i didnt think this was news. And trying to figure out, you know, i had heard this before, but i think it was probably because somewhere in the white house, i had heard it over time. And something we talked about. Because i think as those points are made, it wasnt all that relevant. What i always understood when i tried to confirm it today, i didnt talk to the cia, okay, but Osama Bin Laden at the time wasnt in the town. He was in a camp. When bill clinton said he would have killed all those women and children, unless he was planning on a carpet bomb, like a huge area, that actually wasnt going to happen. It could be the case of a story gets better the more you tell it. Maybe he should stop telling it. A lot of near misses, almost, looking back, i think what we lack the most was intel, coordination, and imagination. And i think the real worry should be that the 9 11 commission came out just last week with its first report in a decade and said that we are at risk of being as complacent as we were right before 9 11. On september 10th when bill clinton made these states. Thats the relevant point for me there. He made those statements ten hours before the terror attacks happened. It looks like ill be the only one at the table that finds this absolutely astounding that hours before he killed 3,000 people, we had a shot at him and we turned it down. We understood that in the past. No, he didnt have we didnt hear bill clinton say it. But he didnt say he was able to take him out like ten hours before. Ten hours before the 9 11 happened. He said he had a shot. Obviously that was many moons before. But i think the key here is in retrospect, its just that you would think we would have saved 3,000 lives. In that sense im with you. You say, gosh, we should have really emphasized getting bin laden much earlier. And the way eve heard this from the 9 11 commission people, who have said this to me, that there was the briefing that president bush h they said to him theres a memo, bin laden intent on using airplanes to attack. Why didnt we put the dots together and do more. If we had just if clinton had acted when he acted. You think about all these things. Its not that everybodys culpable and a bad person for not having done it. Bill clinton made a decision. A lot of people know how evil bin laden was. A lot of people never heard of him until 9 11. But the thing is, you know this story that he tells, what the lesson is, the lesson supports drones. Because you a drone is designed to kill a terrorist every chance you get. So every time you send a drone, youre possibly preventing a 9 11. So the consequences of that are the Collateral Damage of the innocent. But the knowledge that you might have killed another bin laden will bring you no accolades because you cant prove a negative. Can i just throw two things out there. I was literally in the building in 1993 when the World Trade Center blew up. The first time they tried to blow up new york city. Then the Embassy Bombing in 1998. The thing is, yes, would it have changed the course of history . I think it might have when he had taken bin laden out when he had his chance. This is the first time you hear a president talking about, i had the shot, and laughing it off. Right . I dont know. Listen we knew bill clinton had him twice and didnt take the shot. It is interesting to hear bill clinton tell a story about having the shot and not taking it, and the ironic part is that happened ten hours before 9 11. So that is, i think, whats so fascinating about this. I cant ding clinton, though, on this, because when you look and read back, the beginning of the bush administration, they did not look at obl the way they did towards a post9 11 world. Osama bin laden, even though the cia was talking about him, was not the figure that he is today. Okay . A lot of administrations, bill clinton, they missed him. They did. And we can do hint sight and Rearview Mirror but it looks like bill clinton, he shouldnt have laughed in that tape. But he was being very thoughtful about how he handled it. Thats what president s do, they make tough decisions. Now we have a president who seems weary of making tough decisions. There we go. Just remember, put this in historical context. You had the bombings in tanzania, the bombings in kenya during clintons watch. After that time clinton does pursue bin laden. But he misses him. And he has the opportunity for a shot. Did he choose not to take the shot . No, he took shots before. He said i didnt take the shot because i didnt want to kill 300 people. Not only that, he was giving aid to the Pakistani Secret Service to find bin laden at that point. It wasnt that he was not doing anything. Whoever would have been in office at the time in 1999, say joe blow, i think logistically and politically it would have been very difficult for them to have carried it out. Logistically, because its such a huge area, and the other reason, this is both logistically and politically, there wasnt a coalition of people against the war on terror at the time. I think it would have been hard for him to do politically not only with our congress but certainly in the region. And the thing is, to juans point, you know what . President obama might have killed 15 or 20 bin ladens already with drones. Well never know. Listen, now i know what bob feels like at the table. Nobodys disagreeing with you. I think its crazy that we find it tragic. Its not outrageous, its tragic. Different adjective. But let me see if you find this outrageous. Are check out muhammad al saha, a florida man who blew himself up in a suicide bombing just weeks ago. Hes believed to be the First American suicide jihadist. You think youre safe where you are in america . Or britain . Or indonesia . You think you are safe . You are not safe. Those people who died on 9 11 just doesnt justify. When the americans were back in iraq, before 9 11, you think that you killed Osama Bin Laden. That means nothing. You sent him to paradise. You think that you have won . You have never won. We have come for you. Mark my words. Okay. Now, heres the scary part. Before blowing himself up, he returned to america for months after training in syria. Will there be more . And will the next one be on our soil . How about this one . Well, this is, a, this shows how religious extremism offers a path to losers. Satisfied winners dont choose a death cult, only losers do. Its clear that guy is a loser. The other thing is, we talk about signs and stuff. He was definitely communicating with somebody in the United States to somebody outside the United States. Thats what spying is all about. Snowden, you can credit him for tipping these guys off. Now they know theyre being spied on. Damian remember, we were talking about the foreign fighters who are being trained in syria. I was looking at stratfor and Scott Stewart did a great piece about the whole phenomenon of foreign fighters, and trying to put it in context for people like me who wanted to understand it better. So the estimates are between around in the low thousands. There are foreign fighters who have been trained in syria. They go there because they want to fight. And like this guy they had jihad on the brain. But they had western passports, but they can travel out of there. Its not that easy to get in and out of syria at the moment, but it can be done. Often theyre trained not necessarily in blowing themselves up, but handtohand combat to fight with them. I think the intel point is very important. I worry its only a matter of time. I imagine if the cia director, if theres anything that keeps him up at night, it is somebody like this. This is what i hear all the time. Right now, the big threat is that there are so many americans, people with american passports by the way, the thing about him eating his passports hes a loon. Cultural appropriating. The idea is that they go over and say, i have some loyalties to one side or another in the syrian conflict, or theyre in iraq, or theyre in sudan. And all of a sudden they have american passports. Youre not sure where they are overseas. Then they come back. Whats interesting to this story to me is, he didnt do anything here in the United States. Hes a suicide bomber. He could have done something here. Its too difficult for him to get here so no question he didnt do it here and did it over there because its far easier to do it over there. Which is a good sign. But i agree with dana, its only a matter of time before they hit us. The problem is, we have a president that has proclaimed on a National Holiday in the United States that were not at war with islam. We have a president whos gutting our Defense Budget to pay for obama phones. Weve got an administration right now that does not go after hamas for being a terrorist organization. In fact, the opposite, as the spokeswoman at the department of state legitimate idsed their position. The former secretary of state, hillary clinton, explained that. Were screwed. Were in big trouble. Its just a matter of time. You know what i think, though . Its amazing that we havent been attacked. Credit to the men and women in our intel, and also to our law enforcement. Once they had the patriot act that broke down the wall between information sharing, they were able to coordinate a lot better. They disrupted a lot of attacks. The big ones. Its these little ones that might not cause the catastrophic damage, but they could cause a psychological damage to the nation, irreparable harm. Not only does it call for enhanced droning and spy network that we can trust, but impenetrable border. Next on the five, dana has an update on the drama on the hill today. The house gop pulled the vote on their own border bill. And Justice Ruth Bader ginsberg about her male colleagues when it comes to women. Stay tuned. You drop 40 grand on a new set of wheels, then. Wham a minivan tbones you. Guess what your Insurance Company will only give you 37thousand to replace it. Depreciation they claim. How can my car depreciate before its first oil change . You ask. Maybe the better question is, why do you have that Insurance Company . 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See how new york can help your business grow, at startup. Ny. Gov crisis at the border is not letting up. But congress may be close to giving up. Republicans in the house pulled their own 659 million border bill. After leadership realized they didnt have the votes to pass it. Speaker boehner had hoped a provision in the bill that would block president obama from expanding deportation of illegals would sway his caucus. Now the leadership said they will call their members back from a fiveweek recess when they have the votes they need. Take a look at this sound byte. This is the new first day on the job, Majority Leader Kevin Mccarthy speaking on the house floor when all this happened. I want to advise all members that additional votes are possible today. I am hopeful that by late this afternoon, well be able to notify the time of it. The house will be in order. Madam speaker, i yield back. That kind of action in the house, let me give you one poll, the a. P. Poll, do you approve or disapprove of president obamas handling of immigration. 68 disapprove. Andrea, let me ask you something. Even though it looks like the congress cant get anything done, does it actually look like the congress is doing the will of the people by not acting . I dont know about that. It was pretty disorganized on capitol hill today. It was very embarrassing. Kevin mar car think used to be the whip, the man you saw. Congressman scalise is now the whip. Before you call the vote . Before you call the vote, you know you have the votes. They didnt have the votes. Thats embarrassing. If i was in charge right now, i would get a bill together that i know they have the votes for to strictly close the border. Im thinking politically right now. President obama is not going to sign any bill. Its unlikely harry reid would bring anything to the floor that the House Republican majority had crafted. However, if they cant get president obama to support this, and seal the border, they have to crash this down on the heads of Senate Democrats who are in vulnerable seats. They should have been crafting bills on closing the border, sending those bills to the senate, get whoevers running against these vulnerable Senate Democrats to ask them, do you support the house bill to close the border and put them on record and notice that they are not supporting a bill to close the border. Because the polling, i believe, is not in favor of what the president s doing. It is working against him. So republicans have Public Opinion on their side, but they cant get their act together. Eric, do you think they should just pass something on the house side to get it into conference so they can then actually work out a compromise . Can i throw an alternative theory in here . Sure. Maybe they know exactly what theyre doing. If this bill doesnt get voted on now, they can talk about it for five weeks when theyre back in district and say, this is the hot topic. At 68 disapproval rating for the president , on immigration, you want to extend this as long as you possibly can. Play this game out. Were winning, lets play this out. If they do go to a vote, send it to the house and harry reid sits on it, game over. Why not have i wouldnt understand why wouldnt you give the republican members covered next to an aye vote. And say, look, i tried to close the borders. A bill that they can its better to send them back with that vote. Theyre also starting to get traction to say we pass things and the senate doesnt. Juan, let me ask you. The president thinks he has the moral high ground here. Hes not going on his vacation until august 9th. Hes got another week to try to persuade the american people. A 68 disapproval in the a. P. Poll has got to be very challenging for a white house to come back from. I think youve got to look inside the numbers and understand that the president s losing support among democrats. This is a little different than i think the way you guys perceive it. Hes trying to be defiant of the fact that all the republicans are trying to do is obstruct and wont act. If you look at it, i think there was a poll out that yesterday i saw, it was almost like 70 of americans think these children should be allowed to stay. But what precedent is that a beckel institute . Oreilly did it first. No, no, no, you have the you know what . Americans are compassionate. No question they think something should be done here. And people also favor some kind of comprehensive reform. So when you talk about, why not just get a simple bill to say secure the border, people look back and say, wait a second, there was a bipartisan bill with republican support in the senate that had a tremendous amount of money to do just that. But it dealt with the Immigration Reform that the house wont look at. Senator reid wont even pass the president s bill. They would not do the president s, because democrats could not but the bill they had had a tremendous amount of money for border security. That amnesty was in there. When you are looking for a sensible compromise, america, the first person you turn to is greg gutfeld. Juan used the word, compassion. People always use that to demonize the opposition. If youre not amnesty,against c. What does amnesty do . Its hurting president obamas, a lot of his constituents. If you plook at young black unemployment, 24. 4 . 16 to 24yearolds. They need jobs that are theyre entry level jobs that everybody does. Where will those jobs go if theres amnesty . That will hurt them if theres an influx of 5 million or 10 million. Cheap labor does nothing for them. It hurts them. But greg, theyre already here. These are 12 Million People here. Most of them are working in this country. Hes talking about the most recent influx, and what the president calls a humanitarian crisis. You simply dont become a citizen by showing up. There is a line. What the republicans have to do is reverse the priorities. The last thing president obama has put the world before america. Put america before the world, or we become the world. Unfortunately theres no america for us to flee to. We cannot be refugees in another place, as we watch our borders crumble. Thats what we have to do. Was that common sense . It was very followable. Thank you. I just dont agree. You know what, i look at the statue of liberty standing there saying, come to me. You know what, we love new talent, new ideas, new people. This is not about taking anybody out of work. You know whats right next to the statue, juan . Ellis island. Immigrants who came over were checked in and they were documented. And became legal through ellis island. Right. As opposed to swimming across the hudson river and showing up in new york city. Most of our legal immigration, the plur at of the people who overstay their visas. Theyre flying in. Youre talking about an International Movement of squatters. If there was your apartment or your house or your apartment building, you would be evicting them. I love it, though, isnt that an argument for reform saying this is the legal way to do it . Why dont the republicans do that . Why arent the democrats putting a bill forth without amnesty . If i were republicans right now, and i used to craft the message for the hout republicans when they would go into august recess, the message needs to be, prolegal immigration. I know democrats are busy talking about humane and kids from guatemala and mexico. If the republicans want to do the right thing they will talk about what the influx does to American Kids and how its going to bankrupt schools and cities. I see oh, this is its about american children. No question the chamber of commerce, the republican favoring chamber of commerce, they will tell you it would help us. It would boost the american economy. We just clarified not necessarily republican favoring chamber of commerce. I wanted to clarify that a little bit. Okay. That was fabulous. All right. Stop patting yourself on the back. Nobody else will. I have to do it myself. How did lois lerner really see her power at the irs . One word used to describe them that we cant say on television, because bobs not here. Gregs going to fill you in, coming up. Huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance. Everybody knows that. Well, did you know words really can hurt you . What. . Jesse dont go jesse. No im sorry daisy, but im a loner. And a loner gotta be alone. Heee yawww geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Jesse . The former irs official said emails describing conservatives and wack, crazies, and a term for an orifice not used for speaking. I use the same language when describing lou dobbs. Its disturbing because it comes from lois lerner. The emails show the malicious intent of a flack whose office targeted political speech that their boss didnt like. Lois commanded the goons, a batman villain and her one and only power is coercion. This was no accident. It was planned, encouraged, carried out. That covered up with a lame investigation and a premeditated apology. When it started going really bad, the irs told congress that eight workers involving investigation all had computer crashes, losing scads of data. Now, from an odds perspective, thats like getting hit by a meteor by a unicorn attached to your back. Like dana smoking a joint. His media minions are all in the same boat. Its got to be seem odd knowing that youre one of the men, and maybe men is the wrong term, cowards seems more fitting. Dana, i hated doing this monologue. The language is horrible. I didnt want to do it in front of you. Im very sensitive. I know. Are we biased . It was the most, like this tasteful bureaucrat, is the one that gets a political appointment, abuses their power and tries to curry favor and get pats on the back from the white house. I remember a couple of those people from an agency that wont be named. Okay, epa. I dont think that this position should be politically appointed. I think it should be a nonpolitical position. And theres plenty of those throughout government. I think thats one thing that congress could do to say theyve actually tried to address this Going Forward. I think the irs should be run by a robot. Thats the first robot and to be named . A machine with no political affiliation whatsoever. Can you imagine what we still dont know . This is what we know. Look, heres a chance to prove motive, malice and probably state of mind. I think you can check all three of those off when youre defining corruption. This is a prime example of corruption. Shes proving it to herself. Id say quite a bit more than a smidgen of corruption. Wow. By the way, what did she call it . Oh, yeah, yeah. Kennedy would say it rhymes with glassful. Juan, lets face it, if the situation was reversed, this is a republican administration, there would be screaming in the streets. The new york times, the huffington post, people would be going apo plek tick. Thats a word. That is a word. Nice tie. I hear people talk about the left wing in the most powerful ways. Right here. I know. Were not in charge of collecting their taxes. Shes a human being. This was a private email. This was not an email she was sending to people who were in fact auditing some of these groups applying for taxexempt. Remember this was a private conversation. Dont you remember two weeks ago the email that said im worried if Congress Asks for these emails, they might be responsive, so lets be careful what we say on this government email . And in her personal email is what she wants to do politically. I see what youre saying. By the way, i think gregs got a point, if this was reversed, liberals would be up in arms. I agree with that. But ive got to say, its a private email. I dont see that you said then. This is now. The proof she has opinions about people . Of course. You dont think this influences at all her decisions . No. Chat, chat, chat. Theres breaking news. Well turn this over to shep. Breaking news this afternoon. Fox news confirms secretary of state has Just Announced that hamas and the Israeli Government have agreed to a 72hour ceasefire, so the firing will stop in gaza, and in israel for 72 hours, beginning friday local time over there. So tomorrow morning, our time, or somewhere around 10 00 tonight our time actually, a ceasefire to last 72 hours. The humanitarian ceasefire, they tell us, as im sure many of our viewers know, theyre in a world of hurt in gaza. Theres no power there. Hospitals are stretched to the limit. A lot of children have been injured by some close to 250,000 people are displaced. And they need to get people fed and treated. So a 72hour ceasefire. What happens now . Well, the interested parties from hamas and from israel will go to egypt, where theyll conduct talks. The hope was the egyptians could be a peace broker in all of this. At the egyptians word, the last time around, of course, their government has changed and they dont have quite the sway with hamas that the previous government did of the muslim brotherhood. But the hope is that this might lead to a lasting peace. Now, remember, the israelis have said were going to destroy all of these tunnels, whether theres a humanitarian ceasefire or not. What remains to be see is whether israeli troops will remain in the gaza. If they do remain in the gaza, the hamas and many palestinians will not be happy about that. But well see how this works out. The headline, again, just in to fox news, a humanitarian ceasefire Just Announced by the u. S. Secretary of state john kerry, a 72hour ceasefire in the war in the middle east, to begin on friday. Talks will happen in egypt. Im Shepard Smith at the news desk. The five continues after this. When folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. The fox news alert. A ceasefire between israel and hamas has been reached. This is a 72hour ceasefire that will commence in the middle east starting 8 00 local time there. This is a big development. Citi reasons for the ceasefire. So eric, what do you think about this . Weve seen some pretty explosive footage happening. Its only 72 hours. But why now . Im going to take this tact. I think israels doing this for humanitarian reasons. Theyre giving hamas a break. Its time for hamas to say enough. I think hamas is losing their own palestinian people. Theyre getting destroyed. They should at some point say, look, we give up. Put the palestinians back in charge of the palestinian authority, get the terrorist hamas out there. During this whole campaign, israel is around 92 support for what theyre doing. Unless hamas backs out, i think this is going to continue to keep rolling, ceasefires, finish this off, put your hands up. Theres no question, dana, that israels winning, and they could completely eradicate hamas. Some of the pictures of today, in newspapers i was reading today, the u. N. Condemning israel, showing these horrific pictures of palestinians running out of broken buildings. Do you think israel is stopping because they dont want to let hamas win this pr war and say, okay, well give you your 72 hours, so that doesnt reflect poorly on us, what do you think the thinking is . I think they might be beyond that, actually. They made a decision that the media is not going to help them. I think the tunnels was a huge wakeup call. Thats why the country i think israel is 92 support Going Forward and finishing the job. Hamas, because they have in the past, theyre the ones that have broken the ceasefire. Plus, 72 hours, to be cynical, is just enough time to reposition enough women and children to be targets again if israel restarts their operations. Greg, youve said before, no ceasefires, especially when youre winning. Do you think israel should have agreed to this or keep going . I think the ceasefire is for john kerry, to get away from things, not cause any more trouble. Ceasefire for hamas is reload. Sometimes the merciful thing is to let someone win. What eric pointed out is much of the arab world is on israels side here. They cant stand hamas or hezbollah. Whats interesting is what happened to hollywood, in 2006, 85 entertainers put out an ad condemning hezbollah and hamas. You havent heard much of anything than penelope cruz, not supporting joan rivers. Joan rivers and howard stern. And madonna, not supported israel, but compared the palestinian children to little flowers. Let me just say, i dont know how you guys missed it, but its not only that the United States has expressed concern about the slaughter taking place there whoa, whoa, whoa. Youre saying the israelis are they could wipe out everyone they want to. And they havent. Not only have people said, whats going on, the United Nations has now said it the United Nations . Terrorists are the slaughterers. What are you talking about . But military, when you have someone who is not a soldier getting killed, you know, you see children its just upsetting. Israel is making a smart move here. Israel is trying to regain moral authority, make sure people dont buy into what the u. N. It already has moral authority. Its fighting against a terrorist organization. To that point, i think israel is the only country in the world that calls ahead when theyre bombing. And drops fliers. Thats slaughtering. Right. Got to go. Still ahead, Ruth Bader Ginsburg breaks her silence on the hobby lobby case. 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They have no constitutional right to foist that belief on the hundreds and hundreds of women who work for them who dont share that belief. And listen to what she had to say about five of her male colleagues. She thinks they have a, quote, blind spot, end quote, when it comes to womens issues. Do you believe that the five male justices truly understood the ramifications of their decision . I would have to say no. But you do in fact feel these five justices had a bit of a blind spot . In hobby lobby, yes. Andrea, blind spot on the part of the male colleagues . Could you imagine if Justice Scalia would say the same thing about the women on the court, that they have a blind spot. In other words, theyre not reasonable. I cant imagine or rational. And rational. I cant imagine justices besmirching each other like this. Shes also besmirching the court that she pre sides on, basically saying it doesnt really work because the guys i work with, theyre not reasonable, they cant come up with a reasonable position on this. I dont think she said that. She said as a man let me just finish, juan. Shes supposed to interpret these laws of the constitution with some regularity and due process here. Isnt she sort of saying, keep men away from this court . In a way . That is how i took it. Look, i get it. Shes a fan of birth control. But she is an enemy to the bill of rights. And to civil rights. If shes going to give interviews and make comments like this. I think the disturbing point is that what you see over and over again is that one cannot empathize with somebody who is different from you. So using that logic, only black doctors should study sickle cell anemia, pediatricians should be children. You cannot have somebody else or something dealing with somebody different. Its a consequence of divisive thinking. And what it is, it replaces competence with illusions of empathy. Dana, what do you think . Well, i think that in 1972, when the nine male justices approved roe v. Wade, that there wasnt a blind spot. Megan kelly did a good job of dismantling the argument that katie couric and Ruth Bader Ginsburg were making. Forcing an employer to pay for four contraceptives after they agreed to pay for 16. I think its blown out of proportion. The way to solve all of this, in my opinion, kind of radical, but i think we should have no employer benefits, do everything on the open market, approve all of these drugs over the counter, if your health plan or your government decides they want to pay for it, medicaid or something pay for it, fine. Then we give huge tax benefits to corporations. Im blown away. I agree with dana, when i was listening to it, i thought, this is a Supreme Court justice, lumping all contraceptives together . Basically saying hobby lobby or an employer shouldnt have the right to keep women from contraceptives. This is exactly what it is not about. Hobby lobby was about the contraceptives that they disagree with. If shes making decisions on something so important, wouldnt you think she would have a working knowledge of whats really its about . I think what shes saying is, these guys, older men, didnt understand the issue. From her per spike tiff as an older woman older men on the as the oldest one here, im an ageist. You are . I think i am. Its time for this. Earlier in the week, penelope cruz, along with her hubby, they denounced israel and heavyhanded open letter trashing our ally. Im not an expert on the situation, and im aware of the complaints. Just wanted to let you know, penelope earned you the fool of the week. Shes a hot fool. In the movie the counselor, fantastic. Noah aldridge, an 8yearold boy, he decided to take his younger brother everywhere he goes, that includes the triathlon that noah just completed. Here he is on weighing in on why he decided to take his special needs brother all the way. I asked my mom if i could do it, with lucas. He most of the time doesnt get what i get to do. Like when i play sports, he has to just watch. I just want to finish with lucas. His brother suffers from a nervous system disorder, which allows him to do a few basic things in life. Hes always going to go where i go. Very cute. Dana . Who dat . It is drew brees. The new Orleans Saints quarterback is not only good at throwing a football, one thing i wish i could do is toss a frisbee. Take a look at this. There you go. Very talented. If i could throw a football or frisbee, jasper would have a lot more fun at the park. I kind of throw like a girl. Jasper, jasper, jasper. Baseball game, the pirates and giants, greatest team ever. Jody mercer, why dont you show it. Hits the ball to home run. Still loses to the giants. Ha ha. Look what happens. Slow motion, watch. Oh, my gosh thats why i dont go to baseball games. I guess that beer is on her. Theres services in the parking lot in memory of that beer. 12 down the drain. I would be so mad if that happened. Last night, arlington, texas, look at this. A surprise appearance. Theres derek jeter in his farewell tour, hes retiring. Guess who shows president bush. President bush saying goodbye to derek jeter. Remember right after 9 11 he was at yankee stadium, threw out the first ball. Jeters advice, dont bounce it. Also, news today that george w. Bush is going to write a book about his dad. One of my favorite people. We have to leave it right there. Set your dvrs. Well be back tomorrow. This is a fox news alert. Breaking news here in washington, and around the world. A 72hour ceasefire has been announced between israel and hamas. Two americans with ebola could be coming back to the u. S. The dow drops more than 300 points today. And a lastminute battle ensues in congress over an immigration bill. And that is where we we gin tonight. Good evening, im bret baier. This is a special report on a very busy thursday night. President obama and his supporters often complain about a donothing congress. Today House Republicans unexpectedly decided to do nothing to address the immigration crisis. But, things have changed in the hours since then. Chief congressiona

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