Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Five 20140501

Who pushed the video. Just answer this, who pushed the damn video . I hope hes done. Who pushed the video . I had to work that in there. One question kept coming up, who pushed the video. Which leads back who blamed the video . Who pushed the video . Who pushed the video . Come on. They still havent said who push the video, bob. Even im sick of it, but finally we have an answer. New email suggests white house aide ben rhodes was involved in prepping susan rice for her video explanation for benghazi. The white house denies involvement. So the answer who pushed the video is the committee to reelect president obama and for them getting the americans out is let important than get their guy in. Everyone knew it would help the president if a video was to blame rather than neglect. To the media, this doesnt even merit a gate. Christie has a gate. Obamas white house is a gated community. Can you blame the white house or the coverup . You can, but the media wont care, because they covered up the cover up. They are so good at concealing they could put rev lon out of business. Lets go around the horn. I know the white house is saying this is stuff we knew all along and we were just going by the information we knew, but dana what do you make of this bomb shell . All of us are going to have to wait in the reports in the morning when serious journalists are able how dare you . So they can pull together the entire timeline because it wasnt just a suggestion theres not a big deal, they are actually demonstratable evidence of contradictions that the white house is saying itself in months before. One in particular is the suggestion that ben rhodes came up with this on his own and then he wasnt even talking about benghazi but later in the email its repeated and that subject line, benghazi, so i dont know if they think that were really that stupid. I guess they do. And you do have to wonder where is the White House Press corps and what have you done with them. The briefing did get a little more heated today and i think rightly so. When you go to the white house podium, you need to have better Opposition Research than your opponent, if you dont have it, then you are going to end up with another situation you can understand why people have little trust in government when they cant get answer a simple question. All roads lead to rhodes. Its interesting now as you pointed out in the green room, greg, usa has it above the fold. Jonathan carl asking the question, asking the question over and over again. They start with the media matters. They say fox is so bias the, they keep worrying about benghazi, it was over. It shouldnt have been over. They should have been asking the question who pushed the video. One of the things that really bothers me not only rhodes sent this email out, it was the time at Andrews Air Force base Hillary Clinton in front of the caskets and im quoting here weve seen rage and violence over an internet video that we had nothing to do with. Thats especially disgusting. Talk about this, dont make it what we really know that its a terroristic attack. Its time for an independent counsel. There are two ways. It can be the department of justice where eric holder would have to say were going to have appoint a independent counsel to look at whats going on. But you wont. The other way is john boehner has to step up and appoint a joint committee, it can be both sides, it can be joint, but they need subpoena pour and he asks for subpoena power so he can ask the tough question and have something behind it. And have someone take the fifth and have redacted documents. I have very little faith they will get an impartial investigation. What this email tells me from the beginning this administration handled benghazi as a pr or a campaign event. Not as an act of terrorism against the United States. They immediately went into spin control. They did not seem to be so concerned about the loss of lives of four americans that were murdered, the loss of our couldnt sue lat, the lot of the cia annex whatsoever. They had no problem putting out someone as a scapegoat for them to cover up their misdeeds, their mall feastness against the americans who were serving in benghazi. I think this is shameful and not surprised. I do believe that they cared what happened there, but i also believe they cared how it would look. I dont think it had anything to do with it. This has been a hanging court this afternoon. Theres not much new in this. If you guys are so innocent of heart to think that ben rhodes and the white house dont care about the president s image, youve never been in a white house. They all care. This was in the email that you have a steady and steadfast presence. That you maintain the president s presence. You talk about boehner should step up there. You forget there have been house investigations. Hillary clinton testified. Senate intel came out in january and said yes the violent video did spark protest in egypt and tunisia. What difference does it make . He can go ahead and call for a vote for a joint select committee with the power of subpoena weve had investigation. The difference here so you are saying ben rhodes purposefully changed the facts he didnt change any facts. So the president could look good. No, no. What he said was lets make sure that we dont get into a policy discussion. We want to have it so the president comes across as steady and strong. Im so surprised, juan, that youve covered white houses. Youve got amazing investigative journalism. Maybe this story isnt important to those who have followed all the twists and turns. The white house is clearly not telling the truth on a few things. If they had said in the beginning, yes, of course, we were trying to protect the president s image. You can understand that. Instead they have maintained for a long time that they had nothing to do with it, nothing to do with the video and also if they didnt think it was a problem why when these documents, ben rhodes email was sent to the committee did they redact it . Who in the White House Counsels Office thought it was appropriate and necessary to redact that line and only when Judicial Watch sues and gets the documents without the redacted part do we learn about it . Why do you think thats okay . I dont know that its okay or not. I leave that to you judge. Im just saying this is evidence. This is the commentary of this segment. It is not a revelation to me that has anything to do with the heart and soul of the manner. The death of these four young men. If you want an indictment, i tell you what the indictment is, why have we not found the people who did this and punish them . That i could see. If you said that to me, i would say okay. We jailed a film maker instead. You dont have a problem with ben rhodes saying lets go with this idea that it was a video. You know benghazi is going to be the topic and hes saying go with this. We know now it has nothing to do with video but everything to do with a terrorist attack. They have intel that says this was a terror attack, listed terror attack. Its like you missed a lot of history here, but they have had house and Senate Intelligence hearings on just this point. I want to move on to this. Theres the White House Briefing today turned into a giant twister mat as Jonathan Carl abc went after jay carney about this very topic about the talking points and susan rice. Lets roll this. You knew full well what susan rice was going to be asked about was about that attack, a terrorist attack on a u. S. Consulate in benghazi. She went on those shows and said it was rooted in protest over a video. We know now thats not true. I would point out what was said repeatedly in testimony about the creation of the talking points. It was just what morell said last month, when he heard that, he said thats not what our analyst said, right . John, you are wrong. If you look at that document, that document that were talking about today was about the overall environment in the muslim world. So kg, a couple of things he does today, carney, its about a broader situation which they dont believe. Then he brings up promos from other shows. Its embarrassing day for him. I dont know, its terrifying to watch and we do know for a fact that he was in on the white house communication in the emails because it was sent to the whole communication staff, so i mean please stop, its so embarrassing. My god, tender your resignation and put something on yours resume to get a job because this is no not good for him or the whole administration. As a prosecutor, tell me exactly whats in these documents that is so awful . My point is would you have seen dana perino go out there and make these kind of false statements despite knowing facts to the contrary to hold someone accountable . I dont know if that yes, they did. They have been told this was a terrorist attack and cia people, everyone has said we were not convinced at that point. In fact, they said they had guys on the ground. Morell said they knew it was a terrorist attack. Dana points this out, when they originally turned this document over, they did, but it was redacted. It took Judicial Watch. They go to their right hand and swear to tell the truth and all they have these redacted pieces of paper, they cant tell whats on it. It takes an outside legal group that has to sue through foia to get it. And they ridicule chairman issa you held all these hearings and you cant find anything, its because they redacted it. Juan, i hope you read this stuff tomorrow. First of all, your defense of them is not helping them. Its actually making it worse. Its showing even people who want to defend the white house, is so confused that they cant remember the lies they told about the lies they told about the lies. You know those questions are coming to you and you know that you are on the prep call for susan rice the night before the sunday shows and you are being asked did the white house have anything to do with pushing the idea that it was a video, and you say no. But you are on these email and then they are redacted when they go to the white house counsel. That was part of a very minor thing called the u. S. Attorney scandal back in 20072008. One of my emails got revealed. I knew it was going to be. I knew because i paid attention. They dont care enough about their reputation and ill tell you this what they did to susan rice to put her out with information that they knew was going to be wrong and subsequently she was on a sun show saying she has no regrets. What they did to her was absolutely shameful. Lets talk about the victims. Lets talks about the four americans and their families were lied to and deceived by this administration. It is shameful conduct. Were looking at their faces right there. Its not about emails. Its not about hiding, redacting. We should be better than this and American People should expect it and demand it, as a matter of fact. This is about pr. It shouldnt be. Fine, okay. But thats aa you dont see a charge to the substance of the matter and it certainly doesnt amount to the investigations have already taken place. It was about an election. If we all the candy cole krsh crowley moment with romney. They believed it to be true. To say we didnt have to anything to do the video. They had a hard time because of islamaphobiaphobia. Its your thought. You can drone them but you cant blame them. Next, theres an outcry how long it took a cold blooded murderer by lethal injection. What about his victim . She was shot and buried alive . Kimberly has the story coming up fighting constipation by eating healthier, drinking plenty of water, but still not getting relief . Try dulcolax laxative tablets. Dulcolax is comfortcoated for gentle, overnight relief. Dulcolax. Predictable overnight relief you can count on. Well, his name has flashed across newspapers and new casts nationwide today after his execution didnt go exactly as planned. Now to a disturbing story out of oklahoma overnight, what is being described as a botched execution, the inmate clayton locket was being put to death for the death of a woman. Minutes after being declared unconscious, locket tried to lift his head and mumbled and began squirming. Prison officials halted the execution. Most of the reports are how long it took him to die last night, 43 minutes. He ended up after a heart attack after the drugs didnt work and the execution was halted. What they failed to mention was his victim . 19yearold Stephanie Neiman wa in 1999. You hear very little about this. Having been a prosecutor and struggled with situations like this, the families that suffer over time with years and years with either sun solved case, theres no justice, so this happens, it wasnt perhaps the most humane way to die, shouldnt we care about her . Isnt she part of the story, juan . Absolutely. I dont think theres any way to get around it. What he did was wrong, sick, and he deserved to be punished, and if the government and if the people of oklahoma wanted to execute him, they deserve to have that right. They have that right. I dont think anybody is arguing that. I think the argument, here, kimberly, about the constitutional protections against cruel and unusual punishment and the idea you did it in such a way its described as botched. The governor said they are not going to go through with the second execution until they can get it right. Even this man clayton lockets step mother said he deserved to die, its just that he didnt deserve to suffer. Today by the way on foxnews. Com, keith has a piece he wants to be able to as americans theres a line between us and these murderious crazy how about this . This was not an intentional cruel and unusual punishment. It was something that went wrong. What he did was commit intentional and heinous crime . Imagine how long it took this girl, buried alive, to die like that. I have no sympathy for him. Suffering with a heart attack and i have no sympathy. Juan, beyond a reasonable doubt is our standard to convict someone. If theres a situation where its beyond all doubt whatsoever and someone they have eyewitnesses, they admit it, i think they can execute someone in the way that he or she executed their victim. There has to be a deterrent. I know it sounds crazy. You are saying an eye for an eye. The reason why this happened is because this leethal mix of drug didnt work because it was a new mix. The problem is all these Drug Companies are worried about being sued for making these drugs and they are having a hard time getting someone to make it. This guy deserved to die and probably died too kick quickly. Perhaps a merciful death is warranted but does he deserve our sympathy . Probably not. Then we trust our government to give the punishment. Americans are humans, are not infallible, i do think they will fix this. I think the whole reason he was on death row in the first place is because people cared about the victim. Thats a good point. I find this actually kind of funny because it was a leethal interaction of drugs that caused a heart attack. He just died like a rich celebrity. Think about it. This happens to celebrities all the time. Im sorry, there are too many other priorities in the world, we confuse real victims with pretenders. Lets mourn the people he harmed. In a rare situation, the killer suffered like his victim and its a mistake i can live with, but he dies like so many other people died and im sorry. Its like reported on tmz. One morning show saysed execution went horribly wrong. I question the word horribly. I mean, former Death Penalty prosecutor. No tears. Coming up, the u. S. Is on the brink of losing its status as the Worlds Largest economy to china. Next on the five. Welcome back, everybody. In his defense, president o never claimed to know diddlysquat about the economy. Under o, at the end of his term, his debt will be more than the 43 president s preceding. We underwent a credit down grade and first time well lose our status as the Worlds Largest economy. Remember this ad. Its not so funny anymore. Who is laughing now . China going to overtake the American Economy much sooner than most people expected under o. You know, i cant believe i cant take it. It scares me. But i must say that although i think the chinese economy is growing and our economy has not been all that great, im with you on that part, i think the basis of this is totally bogus and i notice im backed up by the American Enterprise institute which says this new way of comparing the numbers can is based on something called ppp, purchasing power parity, is actually way out of line. You dont know what it costs in china versus what it costs in the United States. It appeals to all of our fears that america is not the economic super power that its been since i believe i read the 1800s when we overtook britain as the number one economy. Juan points out theres a new way of doing the math on it, but they are going to overtake us. Yes. Right or wrong, they are crossing the finish line first in this total hare race. Theres some factors here of manipulating their currency, besides they are also doing better than we are. Why is that . Can we do some selfreflection, juan, and maybe were stifling entrepreneurship in this country. Maybe our taxes are too high. We have practices that are not business friendly. Im not surprised that this has happened and bob beckle told me it was going to be like this. Either one of you literally the same amount of debt, president obama is going to tack on the same amount of debt of the whole entire history of america since he took office. Thats insanity. He can at least say hes number one. China wants to win and america wants to pay for its sins. Thats what were going through. We condemn the industry that made our country. Its a campus mentality that has graduated to the white house. If america is at the root of all thats evil in the world, then it deserves to lose, but who replaces us, china. This is why elections matter, which is why usher a rebirth of exceptionalism they laugh at the petty things that we get involved in or actually they dont have the problems we have because they have not reached that point. We had a chance to put romney in and we didnt. Can you help solve this problem . Can you change it . Do you have any suggestions . I dont think its president obamas fault. I think because china has four times the people that the United States has, that if that government doesnt collapse from government overthrow because of desire for freedom and economic changes, like personal property, things like that. Its pretty much inevitable that at some point china was going to overtake the American Economy whether you compare apples to apples or whether things change there are some things we could do to be competitive and i think that falls to the white house and congress and the most important thing they could do is lower the u. S. Tax rate for corporations. Just this week, whats the big company that wants to move overseas and put their headquarters in london. Its pfizer. Its not that companies are leaving to go to china, they are leaving to go to western european nations. They want to move over their whole it was not president obama who said he didnt know anything about the economy. It was actually john mccain. It was a quote of us during the election i infer heard him say he does know something about the economy. Let me just say for all the kind of mournful feeling we have about our economic condition, i would rather in the United States. If you want to live in china, come on, i want my children educated in this country. Their schools cant compete with our schools. I believe in democratic principles and we get hung up you find a university in china to compete with our universities. People come all over the world. People are doing pretty well you want simple thing they can do from any administration, whether its obama or any administration, what simple tweak to the tax system that would put us on top for life, let every corporation repatriot their profits back to the United States. That would make us number one for life. I can think of five people we can do that. Republicans or democrats should take that as one of their policy platforms and they could run on it. Even if they couldnt get it passed through Congress Wait a minute. More money for the rich. More money for the rich. A u. K. Politician is arrested for quoting Winston Churchill. Way to get on top of it. Over the week, in britain a politician named paul weston was arrested for quoting a churchill passage critical of muslims. Islamism is a mill i tant this is because if they have to admit that there is a serious problem with islam, then they would have to do something about it. So Winston Churchill wrote that in 1899 when he was 25 in sudan. If two people are in a pub and somebody overhears them, they hear somebody making racial statements. The fact is now churchill is seen as another dead white male and probably racist. The danger in limiting speech though in a pub you decrease options for outrage which increases violence in other ways. I think england what they should do, they should create a read churchill day. Everyone on a certain day go out and read churchill. You cant arrest 100,000 people for completing a sentence. Thats exactly what they should do. Kimberly, let me ask you this, police here in the United States, i dont think this would ever happen because we have the First Amendment and for now it is protected. But i dont think for now. For now. Do we even have enough police to rush to a call to check in on somebodys private comments . Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. We already have that division. The spot police. The thought police. They are doing extremely well and coming in under budget and this is frightening with somebody with two cents in london knows this is a big problem for the u. K. They have a real serious threat and its where were headed by the way with islamic terrorism. If you say it, stigmatize a guy that is quoting churchill. Have you ever heard anyone getting arrested for reading a quote . He was trying to get arrested. Do you admire him . I really do. Daniel hartman was the author of a book wrote why should it fall to me to defend him . Where are the lion hearted liberals who are so quick to deannounce political arrests in distant dictatorships. It has relevance to who we are today in a multicultural, multireligious society where you have to discuss the history of islam and you have to deal with the negative just like we deal with the negative of my faith, christianity. I dont see why we cant have a public discussion . Would you want to go to england right now and risk it . I think thats the beauty of the constitution, as simple as it is, its a few pages and we can always rely on it and go back to it. This obviously wouldnt happen here. I assume because of the free speech. And if its on campus. Or if audiotapes you in the privacy of your own own and then all of a sudden your Basketball Team is taken away from you. Im not condoning what he said. When a private conversation is being used against you, that would be a test of the constitution. My husband peter has a british accent. Hes from there, obviously. Thats why he have a british accent. Thats what they all say. But he was reading to me outloud from this Winston Churchill book a couple of months ago, you could keep on reading and you can come on over kimberly and listen. I thought we were going do that swap. No swapping. What . Shes the meanest person. America, she said i dont want the kid. What are you going to do, leave it out on the road . What kind of monster are you . You are a dangerous person. Weve been talking about clippers Don Sterlings from his race remarks. There were some controversial remarks by others flying under im almost done. [ male announcer ] now you can pay your bill. Manage your appointments. [ dog barks ]. And check your connection status. Anytime, anywhere. [ dog growls ] oh. So youre protesting . Okay. [ male announcer ] introducing xfinity my account. Available on any device. It took over 72 hours for Donald Sterling from the l. A. Clippers to be rightfully banned from the league after his remarks were brought to light. Just yesterday, another person was caught on videotape with remarks of his own. Mitch mcconnell would have the odd isity to tell the president of the United States, not just the chief executive, but the commander in chief, that i dont care what you come with, were going to be against it, now, if thats not a racist statement, i dont know what is. There is uncle Tom Clarence Thomas thrk man doesnt even like black people, he doesnt like being black because every decision where color has something to do with it, he went against it. So should the punishment for congressman thompson be as swift and severe as it was for Donald Sterling . Eric. Thanks for coming to me first, juan. Heres the deal. Look, im in the mind set now about all the stuff going on, he said, she said, they are going to take this away from him. Let the free market dictate. Let him vote him out is he still a congressman . Yeah. Let them vote him out. As far as Donald Sterling, let the free market take care of this. Life has a way of giving you your comeuppance. And i agree with you. Thats the key. In all these arguments, when the commercial people, when the advertisers flee, you are in trouble. I yol like his comments at all. He can keep his job. I think its pretty embarrassing for him. These comments. They speak for themselves and the way he disparaged clarence thomas. Hes not moving the ball forward for anybody there. Gregory. You know what, im tired of this kind of race pingpong. Ill throw you a bundy and smn somebody throws a sterling. What if your name really is uncle tom. I had an uncle tom. Tom perino. I hope he didnt have any kids. Oh. Get over it. Get over it. Dana, i hate kids, perino. I wrote something similar to greg in terms of race pingpong, i call it racism one upmanship. Heres what i was thinking today. I think forget these older people. Oh, my god, were getting worse. And now you hate older people. What kind of quality equality are they looking for. Im so hopeful about the youth of america because they are the most tolerant, inclusive people. We should focus more of our attention on them. They are going to be the future for us. Krauthammer and i were having a discussion, look at the stage of at the age of sterling. You were in your 40s te. Test test flush one more thing. Who is first . Its me tonight. Good. All right. So take a look at this clip, its senator harry reid on the floor of the senate. Since snyder fails to show any leadership, the National Football league should pick up the slack. I believe hes a good man. Remove this hateful term from this term. Rid the league of bigotry and racism. So now the pressure is on dan snyder over the name of his team. Somehow that name is being equated with what Donald Sterling has to say. Excuse me, thats a jar too far. Wheel of for tune. Boozing my shore excursion. I would like to solve the puzzle. Booking my shore excursion. I wouldnt have got that. Speaks for itself. You thought it was booting. Whoa this came out today, Judicial Watch pointed out that over the past five years, president obama and joe biden the biden family have spent over 40 million of your tax dollars on vacations and thats just for air force one and air force two. I cant imagine the golf scraf began zas. It is time once again for gregs prom tips. You dont want to look like an idiot when you pin the corsage on your date. Practice on your mom. Before you go to the prom, dont go to victorias secret to buy something thats going to freak your parents out. Do you have an itchy head . Im relaxing, kimberly. You know what, stay out of my life. Go ahead, hater of children and old people. I want to clarify something. Im going to save my one more thing for tomorrow. Please dont take my comments out of context. Dont forget to set it is thursday may 1st. The administration scrambling to ex pl explain an email about the benghazi cover up. Why did it take a court case for you to release this . I can say it again and again and you will keep asking me again and again this document was knotted about benghazi. Do all roads really lead to the white house . We will examine the evidence. These pictures telling the tales of complete devastation. The water is knee high. It is not over. Maria molina is tracking the storms for us. One of these people are faking how they feel. Fox and friends first starts right now. We have gray skies welt roads here in new york. You are watching fox friends first. I am ainsley earhardt. I am heather childers. Thank you for starting your day with us. The white house on the defense over a new smoking gun benghazi email. It is prompting a show down in the newsroom. Heather and ainsley the Obama White House is scrambling to explain the Administration Response to the benghazi terror attack. The prep call