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Department.  and he was brought to bellevue hospit hospital. The test for ebola conducted and conducted at our public healo lab. I think that i shoulde÷n turn to dr. 6zypher to talk about prospect of his transfer. Kzn confident that alln are. Kzn of the protocols that weve worked so hard to put in place for communications with all levels of our Public Health system, with our emergency medical system, with our Public Health system have worked as well as we expected0c n them to work. And were glad that the patient is safely here at Bellevue Hospital. Over to you, doctor. And Governor Cuomo and mayor de blasio. Firstly, our wishes and prayers go out to this doctor, his family and friends for a speedyw recovery. Ast;bj÷ youve heard the timeli what weve heard about this f; z patient, as bellevue has been preparing for this and we as a city and state have been preparing about this for a while, all the processes making sure taking care of here at the hospital ill mention in a minute but more importantly get into the hospital. The ems brought him in with proper protective gear. He was immediately brought to the isolation area that Bellevue Hospital has established for patients who could have ebola. He has been taken care of by an excellent team. And all8 being addressed. As you know ebola patients have a lot of different problems and these are all being watched for closely. I think its also important to just reiterate that you can only get ebola by being exposedn bodily fluids. And thats a very important point to make. He has been in the hospital as we know. His symptoms began with he had a fever that symptom began this morning. And some of the other symptoms as well this morning. I think that its important to just reiterate that the management of all the issues come forth with ebola have come together nicely with this patient and we look forward to a quick recovery for him. Thank you. Once again, wed like to thank our federal partner who is have really been extraordinary. And the ebola czar who just started the job, ron klain, Sylvia Burwell that was a press conference with the new york city5mn mayor blasio. That was of course andrew cuomo the governor of new york. Joining us outside of Bellevue Hospital dr. Mark siegel. Dr. Siegel, whats the latest from there . Sean, this is the situation here. The dr. Spencer came into the United States it looks like about six days ago. And he was feeling okay until about two days ago. Then he started feeling lethargic and he stayed in his apartment. He developed a fever this morning to 103. He called 911. The Fire Department has these hazard technical units that can actually be test ed. And they will not let them be used for these possible ebola patients unless theyve had 80 hours of this training. They came and brought him down to Bellevue Hospital. He was whisked into an Isolation Unit in the same area where bellevue treats tuberculosis patients. Bellevue has a long history of treating tuberculosis, hiv aids, so this is a very good place for this. Lets hope we see a better outcome here than we saw in dallas. Unfortunately, sean, he exposed many people over the past several days although when he was not symptomatic the chances of there being a problem or somebody getting sick is a lot o less. But still thenj Contact Tracing thats going to have to go on here with the of the new York City Health department combined with the cdc track him down and all his contacts down is going to be very cuc extensive. We were listening during the press conference they talked the only way to contract the disease is to come into direct contact with bodily fluids. But the cdc itself had contradicted itself by saying then you need to be three feet away and you would be in danger. Now we know that there are 233 Health Care Workers that contracted the disease, Doctors Without Borders, they had 16 infected, nine have since died. What about this guy in the contact that he had at a Bowling Alley and the fact he was using a car service in new york . Ev concerned about . Well, i would say we need to be concerned until proven otherwise. Until all the people he contacted are tracked down and be sure theyre negative before were sure of anything. But as far as we know its an issue of how many secretions you have. The sicker you are, the more youre shedding this virus. The more you shed this virus, the higher chance somebody gets it. Health care workers are most in contact with this virus. But, sean, to your point, we cant be sure until everybody is tracked down. Yeah. Thats8 why i think everybody coming from west africa thats treating ebola patients should automatically be isolated. Yeah. All right. Thank you, dr. Siegel. We now head to ed henry in washington at the white house to get reaction on this latest ebola case. Ed henry, whats going on. Sean, good to see you. Im here in washington. Bottom line is im told by Senior Administration official the president was just a short time ago briefed on this ebola case in new york city. His Homeland Security official, shes been fronto s÷ and center reacting to this crisis. Im told were not to expect any sort of formal statement from the president. You can see from that News Conference theyre letting local and state officials take the lead on this. This senior official in the administration is telling me theyre fairly confident that theyve got the procolsn you heard dr. Siegle talking about that to make sure Health Care Workers who had contact with this doctor do not get make sure they do not get exposed to ebola. But obviously that happened in dallas and thats why this senior official i just got off the phone with was telling me they understand. They made mistakes before. They believe and i underscore believe they have learned from the mistakes in the past with the Health Care Workers and they want to make sure that other Health Care Workers do not get it as well as of course the general public. This official acknowledged to me that there is a significant challenge for the administration. They were feeling positive in the last couple days. They were starting to turn the corner. There is a significant challenge, but we are confident we can get through this. Thank you, ed henry at the white house. Ed, thank you. Standing boo i on the phone is our own john roberts. He has reaction to this latest case breaking out in new york city at Bellevue Hospital. What is the cdc reaction tonight . The cdc is setting a team up, sean on an aircraft right now making its way up to new york city. This is a team that has Contract Tracing. Bellevue doesnt need any help in treating the patient. They know what they are doing up there and they have had lots of practice. What they will need a lot of help doing as dr. Siegle was eluding to may have been in proximity to this doctor when he was in new york up to the time when he was symptomatic. If this report in the New York Times is correct that he took a subway from manhattan to brooklyn and was at a Bowling Alley the night before he got sick and i was hoping to hear that either con officialed or knocked down. We havent gotten there yet, that will make contacting more diffficult. People have ridden the subway in new york city and it is the evening and it could be very crowded. A number of people on the train. Who knows what condition he would have been in if we were on that subway headed to brooklyn. You have to be in proximity of the patient. You have to come in contact with bodily fluids, but sweat is a bodily fluid. This is what is important to remember. Every american infected with ebola in west africa cannot point to the moment they were infected. They cant remember what they did incorrectly that got them infected. So i think we need to take these assurances from the government officials with a grain of salt that you have to be in contact with bodily fluids, but what exactly does contact with bodily fluids constitute, and would sweat do it . Saliva perhaps not because the virus did not survive well in the mouth. But tears certainly and sweat and obviously if someone were to vomit on you that would be a serious problem. What degree of contact do you have to have like in new york city and particularly in the subway, might it make that contact easier . Thats a great point. We appreciate it. John roberts joining us. Joining us is dr. Michael bodden. The cdc did change. They said direct contact with bodily fluids. They said well you may be able to get it if you are three feet away. As john roberts reports nobody can pin. Can pin point where they got this disease. Do we have a full, complete answer . No, but we answers. New york city has among the best Infectious Disease doctors in the country and in the world. They are working on it. I think that they are casting out a big net to cover everybody. I suspect in the weeks and the months ahead they will run a course as they have always done in africa. In africa since 1976 they have had ebola. But the government has been wrong time and time again. They said you dont need a special hospital room. You just need a private room and bathroom. In the event we have taken the precautions and working with african countries to make sure someone with the virus doesnt make it to the u. S. It is here and they have gotten things wrong. Two nurse is infected and now it is in the new york city. The number of people who have gotten ebola is quite low. What about the 233 Health Care Workers in west africa . I assume they contracted the virus. Unbelievable. These decisions have to be political and not historical or medical. Nobody knows when they get the flu virus and who gets it in the room or in the office. It is impossible when you are dealing with 82day incubations in semen. He could have had 6 sex with five women and five men. Stop the flights. Whether it is an ellis island islandtype. Quarantine where he has to be watched for three weeks or four weeks or longer. You have to to do that. Lets talk about the quarantine period. That was originally 21 days. The World Health Organization changed it to 42 days. They were predicting 10,000 cases per week. They said about 10 or 12 days ago that we had 60days to control this disease. They raised the death rate from 50 to 70 . The fact they keep changing makes people nervous. People should be concerned. Where we are and the best place for dealing with a problem like this in new york city does have some of the finest doctors in the world. I think what we are all asking here is what happened with this particular individual who is clearly in contact with ebola and came down with the virus and he was allowed to move freely within new york city for a period that wasnt within the constrained period are you talking the sixday period. This guy is a hero. He obviously didnt think he contracted the disease. I agree. All of these Health Workers deserve to be commended. He did go to a Bowling Alley and used a car service. Those people may have come into contact with him. Why if we know someone has come into contact with ebola and they are coming in contact, why are we allowing them to move freely when they come back to the United States . Unbelievably he is a doctor and he knows better than the average public. If an average individual is going to figure this out, they are not going to do it. We need our subways with purell and hygiene and airplanes hygiene. You need hygiene protection and hand washing and an entire nation is not prepared for what happened in 1919 where the flu killed as many people almost as world war i. You seem less pes pessimistic. Do you see any scenario where they may spinout of control . I dont think it will spinout of control. I think we will get more cases. We will get deaths also. Thats the nature of epidemics and so far all of our epidemics and the ebola epidemics have run a course. People have contracted it and many people have. And then it runs out. I trust with all of the precautions that the cdc is taking which may be too much rather than too little. Well get it under control. We will stop you here. There is an on going press conference in new york city that consists of the new york city mayor and new york state governor andrew como cuomo. A friend said that they felt he and the patient as ive said did not report any fever. Although he did report that he felt tired. Well, he did a really he did attempt to selfisolate. And were still gettingvooxu cl the amount of time that he spent outside of his apartmentfb butr impression is he spent most of his time in the apartment and took his temperature twice a day. He was being mindful about contacts with people. Hes a medical doctor, asv8 all said. So he was very alert to signs and symptoms of ebola coming from a place where ebola is truly ravaging the do npopulati the waste . We have contracts in place for the removal of medical waste. The patient really only displayed symptoms today. And i see no reason for the building to be concerned. I want to make the point he left the key in his apartment and locked the door. Very meticulous individual recognized that if the key was floating around, somebody pick it up dr. Basset wants to add. I just wanted to add or to point out that the state Health Department announced just lastk week that eight hospitals in this state would be as settings where ebola patients could be cared for. We are the first state to identify a limited number of hospitals of which this hospital is one, Bellevue Hospital is one of the five hospitals in new york city. And as youve all been hearing theyve been working. They were ready. Today they showed how ready they were to0yhun let the governor go. Just to clarify, there are about 200 hospitals in the state. They are all prepare d if someoe walks into the hospital andj2h presents themselves and suggests they might have the illn o c but to get all 200 hospitals ready for intensive treatment obviously would have been very difficult. So the decision was made to take eight hospitals, oneeo6t of the bellevue, and really focus and concentrate intensive efforts. And that5h turns out thats b wise we interrupt that press conference. This is yet another fox news alert. The nypd at this very hour is investigating a possible terror connection to an axe attack that targeted Police Officers in new york city earlier today. The vicious assault happened in broad daylight around 2 00 this afternoon. You had a hatchet wielding assailant struck one officer in the arm before landing a severe blow to anothers head. At that point other officers on the scene opened fire and killed the man. Here with the very latest on this terrorrelated attack is foxs own Trace Gallagher standing by. Trace. Sean, fox news has confirmed that the new York Police Department is considering a possible terror connection in this attack. And the Fbis Joint Terrorism Task force is now involved. This happened in a very busy commercial district of queens. A freelance photographer actually asked the four rookie Police Officers to pose for a picture. And thats when a man pulled an n backpack. And without saying anything, didnt utter a word, he9eg the officers. He hit one officer in the ;f . M another was struck in the back of the head.  crj the officer who is now listed as critical but stable. Now, the other two officers pulled out their weapons. They shot and killed the suspect. They also hit a woman who was walking by. Her injury is not thought to be life threatening. Now, police tell fox news senior correspond, thatuspects Facebook Page has some very concerning content and im quoting here, the solution is to fight. Armed struggle. Simple. Then another statement that seems to support home grown attacks saying, again quoting, helicopters, big military will be useless on their own soil. They will not be able to defeat our people if we use guerilla warfare. Attack their weak flanks. If you get wounded, who cares. If you die, who cares. U 2n eventually theyzrm÷ will surre and then the war will be over. Now, the nypd wont release the suspects name because his family has not yet been notified. But new york police have issued a patrol bulletin. Thats a bulletin alerting Police Officers to be in a state of heightened awareness. isi  and there of course are also reports that new york police are conducting a largescale operation in jamaica, queens near the site of this dattack. But this, sean, marks the third potential terror attack a van h america in four days, two in canada, one today here potentially in new york city. Sean. Trace gallagher, very chilling. Joining me now is terrorism expert richard minuteser and bo deedle. We have the two events in canada in three days and now this attack. Is there anything more chilling than a guy with a hatchet coming at you. What are the thoughts . We have mayor big bird, i zh against america. They want to radicalize ooichl looking at this video. Im asking you based on your foi detective, does that look like terrorism to you . Following his web page, what he was looking at, what he was reading. They say he was mentally unstable. A lot of these guysc bb are meny unstable. And what happens here is that they read this stuff and they get all fired up and they think they have a cause. I dont know if hes a real muslim or a fake muslim, but hes certainly attacking Police Officers there. And he was on that website that is preaching this Terrorism Activity against police, army, officers and all that. When are we going to wake up . This is the beginning. And i said this a couple months ago. You said it right on the show. This is the beginning. And that poor woman got her head cut off in oklahoma. That wasnt terrorism. And then that little punk i dont want to call himi hd a major, hassan, he killed workplace violence. When are we going to wake up in america when americans are dying. This is the beginning. Next thing thats going to happen is going to be weapons i÷ subways,[ q attacks in malls, i going to be body count. Everybodys going to say what happened. You know what happened . They took the handcuffs and put it on the cops. They wouldnt let them do stop and frisk. They couldnt even stop and frisk this guy for a hatchet. Thats against the law. Lets go to this guys Facebook Page. The solution is to fight. Armed struggle. Simple. Helicopters, big military will be useless on their own soil. They will not be able to defeat ourb dun people if we use gueri warfare. This is a classic dumbed down in the shade of quran milestone. These are the seminole documents cited by theg brotherhood you take that right out of the islamic its a dumbed down version. What do you mean by dumbed down version . Its using simplified language and without the references, the chain of the ideas, the order of the yts, the very thing who is the inspiration for most of the terror groups including al qaeda. One great distinction with what happened in canada and their Prime Minister versus the things that happenedrz here, almost immediately both the press and the Prime Ministerlzgr identified the two attacks in canada as terrorism. Now, theodny official governme position to this day is what happened at ft. Hood, 13 injured im sorry, 13 killed, 33 injured. Thats workplace violence. We still dont identify this woman being beheaded in oklahoma as terrorism. Sean, you have to see the difference here. Prime minister harper of canada did identify as terrorism. Immediately. The Canadian Press however took the New York Times line and said we dont know, this could be workplace violence, could be something else. They took the same position as president obama. And thepyra other thing is the guards in ottawa were unarmed. They had guns, but they had no ammunition. Talking about the guy at the war memorial. And what happens, sean, on this the Political Correctness is so over one side now. You cant even say this. The Police Commissioner cantl come out and say this was anll t of terrorism. Our president doesnt have the to say this is an act of terrorism. Thats what the problem is here in america today. Hang on one second. Joining us now with more breaking details on this issue is our own rick leventhal. Whats going on . Sean, we heard from congressman peter king that he had learned that the suspect was a muslim, had radical leanings and also antiwhite. Vd q im looking at posts on his Facebook Page and i want to read zu post that this suspect in this axe attack allegedly wrote, it says americas military is strong abroad but they have never faced an internal mass revolt. They are weaker at home. We are scattered and decentralized. We can use this as an advantage. They are centralized and strong which can be exploited as a weakness. Think of a swarm of bees, and this is in parentheses surroundfn÷ and attack an eleph to death. this is what this suspect allegedly wrote onw is page before this axe attack. Very clear. Rick, thanks for that update. Richard, let me ask you, scattered, decentralize. What theyre. Eh saying is basiy kre pfwzinforcing this idea of wolf attacks. We know the leader of isis encouraged people to engamg in these types of attacks. It happened in canada and happened here. They said theyll meet us in new york and raise the flag in our white house. Is this the beginning of what may be many lone wolf attacks . I dont know if this guys connected to islamic terrorism or not, but that metaphor of the swarm of bees and elephant, you see that repeatedly in the islamic literature. This shows up again and again. Another thing is mayor de blasio cutting off funding and downgrading the nypd think tank on terrorism which creating profiles for people to lookm ;÷. Al qaeda overseas is different than the terrorist groups here. Al qaeda npinuatj overwhelmingly come from stable middle class families, college educated. The people who carry out home grown attacks here dont fit that profile. I÷ nonreligious households, broken families with different ideology and different lifestyle. That needs to be mapped and measured. And with de blasio the mayor of new york cutting off funding or reducing funding, the nypds think tank n2y this matter, theyre leaving new york x the number one target. Every cop that i talk to out there, i talk to cops every day. Their whole soul is taken out of them. Theyre afraid to stop and question somebody because of all this foolishness that the judge that came withsoabi that ruling now the cops are hands are tied behind their back and they cant do their p now we got these psychopathic terrorists. What are we going to do . Weve got to let our cops be cops again. Stop and frisk ought to come back. Maybe if they stopped andnqh frisked this guy they0 gotten that axe out of him. How can we connect this with whats going on in isis and syria and iraq . I know the president said he wants to degrade and defeat them, but by every account in koba were not offering the support that they say they need to actually stop them. And they seem to be getting closer and expanding their territory. Are they now a state . The president says theyre not. The president doesnt appear serious about defeating isis. If he were he would deploy u. S. Special forces who know how to q targets. Instead, without that expertise, you cant put bombs on target. Close air support is meaningless and isis will not be defeated. Iraqis and syrians fighting against isis have been begging for weeks. They said well meet you in new york. Well know in the days ahead if this may be the first meeting. Guys, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Joining me now in washington to see what the administration has to say about the very latest involving this potential terror attack in new york and the latest on ebola is foxs own ed henry with us. Ed. Good to see you, sean. Interesting, i spoke a short time ago to a Senior Administration official asked about this hatchet attack in new york city and this official not only did not know of any terror but also did not know about the incident. Obviously it happened earlier today. The white house iseoaling with a whole host of issues, crises like ebola. But the fact that the Administration May not be getting a ton of information about thisjf its hard to tell what that really means in these early stages. ofs because as youve been stressing, its unclear whether this was a terror attack, whether this was some random act of violence on the streets of new york city. Obviously everybody is on at least a heightened state of vigilance as the fbis acknowledged in the last 2448 hours after the terror attack in canada as well as what appeared to be completely unrelated but obviously scared some folks yesterday when yet another person jumped over the fence at the white house, was quickly apprehended we should note. Did not get to the white house this time. But these bits of violence obviously appear to be separate, not connected. But its certainly getting thep attention of a lot of people around the country wondering what is really happening, sean. C let me ask you quick going back to the ebola issue for a minute with this case diagnosed in new york city. Is the president , the white house in a little damage control considering the statements that both the president made and the cdc director. Event that ebola does reach our shores, weve taken alluathe precautions. The cdc director wrongly saying all you r and private bathroom. How defensive are they going to be in the days to come considering we have yet another case . Sure. Theyve had a lot of problems with this, theres no doubt about it. And as you noted. The previous cases of ebola had to do with Health Care Workers being exposed. They say theyve learned from those mistakes. Well see in new york cityhv h whether any Health Care Workers are exposed. Certainly a big problem seems to be the potential the travel restrictions did not work. They knew that this doctor obviously had been in west africa treating patients. He clearly appears at least again, were trying to get all the facts. I dont want to go, you know, make declarative statements about it, but why did he make it back to new york city and ended up testing positive for ebola . The administration has repeatedly said we do not need a full travel ban. The president has completely pushed back on that. And instead theyve said the current travel restrictions we have from western african nations going into five or six important airports in the United States where most of those travelers end up going, new york city, chicagtmzn et cetera, theyve said those restrictions are quite tight. And they didnt think anyone would get through them. Now weve seen at least one case through those restrictions. A lot more questions for the administration because of that, sean. Ed henry in washington tonight. Ed, as always, thank you. And standing by outside Bellevue Hospital in new york city is dr. Mark siegel of the fox news medical aid team. Dr. Siegel, whats the latest there . Sean, dr. Craig spencer who trained at columbia was over in guinea treating ebola patients. And he came back by our reports october 17th about six days ago. And about two or three days ago he started feeling ill. And this morning he developed a fever of 103. O unfortunately he likely exposed hundreds of people to ebola before he got sick, which again is a very unlikely that he transmitted it that way since getting sick. The estimates are four people that have been in contact with including his girlfriend. He was brought by the Fire Department down here to Bellevue Hospital in a tried and true 71 t thats been tested. Hospital in an Isolation Unit likely to be on the service used previously to isolate tuberculosis patients. Lets hope that the 62 jtju are followed, double gloves,np gowns, hazmat suits, no skin exposed,cems hoods. Because theres a lot of secretions that are involved right now. We dont need another Health Care Worker to come down with e bo la. This is a test for the new York City Health department, the cdc again on their way here about Public Confidence. Can we have a case where we dont transmit ebola to further workers. The detectives of the disease are out there trying to track down everyone whos been in contact with this physician since he returned to the United States. And per your previous guests point, you know, there should be forced isolation of people after they take care of ebola patients when they return to our shores. Sean. We have 4,000 troops that have been sent over. We may troops. We really have tohwln worry if fact we a i mean, from what they read they only get four hours i from what weve also read were not sure if they have the proper medical equipment to keep them safe. Is that a concern . It sure is. Previous lima reens have treated ebola patients successfully in africa without anyone getting sick. I frankly trust our military a lot more than i trust our civilian doctors going on a more voluntary status. Doctors without borders is a tremendous organization though. I think the military needs plenty of training. Plenty of training to handle ebola patients. Theyve had 16 medical professionals, Doctors Without Borders now, that have contracted the virus. Nine of them have died. I give them all the credit for trying to help people out in dire need, but do they have the proper equipment . 4,000 troops are in these ebola, you kdknow, infected countries are we giving them the protection they need . Anyway, dr. Siegel, standby. Well get back to you in a minute. I think that thats go ahead. I think thats a great point, sean. Thats a great point. I think they needk protective equipment. And they need many, many hours of training before we can put them in harms way essentially. Were talking about harms way here. Yeah. We need the infrastructures to be built. We owe that to them to say the very least. Need properly trained, absolutely. Get back to you in a little bit here. Joining me now with an update os the Ebola Press Conference that just concluded in new york city is wnyw Sharon Crowley with us. Sharon, thank you for being with us. Yeah, sean. Thank you for having me. This press conference just wrapped up. Governor cuomo, mayor de blasio, Health Commissioner briefing us on the doctor who was working with Doctors Without Borders in west africa. Heres what we know. I know youve been talking to ÷ this. I took a few notes during the press conference. It turns out that doctor had the fever this morning. Thats one of the most contagious things. And of course he would become more contagious. But he says he was at home this morning. And as soon as he gotmi u÷ a fee was monitoring his health. He went and called his boss, Doctors Without Borders, and right to the hospital. Its what happened before that when he had this symptom of fatigue which was yesterday and the day before that of course many here in the media and public might be concerned about. Thats because he rode the atrain, the ltrain, went to the high line, went jogging, 7n went to a restaurant, went to a Bowling Alley in.  rv williamsb. The Health Officials here have looked at his metro card. Theyve quarantined his apartment in harlem. And they say that the neighbors in harlem dont have anything to worry about because as weve been talking about you have to have exchanged bodily fluids and very close contact. That being said there are two or three people that he did have close contact with in the time that hes been back from west africa from guinea. That being his girlfriend. And she has been hospitalized. And two others who are doing voluntary quarantine. I did ask the governor and mayor and Health Officials tonight0. n this physician did not quarantine himself for 21 days like weve seen in other cases especially because he was a doctor and he was treating patients with ebola. And they said all that is under investigation. They said he really wasnt seriously symptomatic until this morning. So they dont think anybody that he just had casual contact with or anyone riding the subway is really at risk. It was really just this morning when that feverw 1 broke out th he became someone that could be at risk to others. Thats what the Health Officials here in new york city are saying. So that was the press conferencx tonight. It went on for about 45x nminut. We knew it was serious when the number of Health Officials from new york city called a press conference at 9 00 at night here which actually started about 9 45. I have to say the case is still very much under investigation. As for that Bowling Alley in williamsburg, brooklyn, thats been closed down as a precaution. There are no major plans, sean, to clean the subways or do something drastic as far as that goes because as i said, they dont think that the public isv÷ at risk. But it does beg a lot of questions tonight about how this happen happened. Sharon just to reiterate, he was taking care of ebola patients, he comes back, he doesnt have any symptoms, yesterday the first symptom arrived which was fatigue and during that time he was on a Bowling Alley, on the atrain for those who dont know across the country thats a subway in the city, went jogging, went to a restaurant and went bowling. Yeah. And the ltrain and also on the high line for those around the country that dont know what that is, elevated park if you will and went for a threemile jog in the last two days. And i guess his symptoms started in the last two days and early symptoms were fatigue. One has to wonder why they didnt put an immediate quarantine for anybody whos been in contact with an ebola patient. Sharon, thank you for that. We appreciate you being with us tonight. Joining us on the phone with much more information about the travels of this new ebola patient is foxs own john roberts with us. Hes been getting the cdcs information about this. John, first a quick response. Here you have this doctor treating ebola patients feeling the first symptoms yesterday and makes all of this contact. Thats got to scare a lot of people. A lot of questions will be raised im sure in the days ahead about why inspect he didnt quarantine himself at least for 21 days. Well, you know, theres a difference between i think the point might have been made earlier, theres a difference between selfquarantine and selfisolation. He sort of putkx selfisolation, if you will, sean. Thats just limiting his contact with other people, not in quarantine like dr. Nancy snyderman and the nbc team were when they were in contact with ashoka mukpo over in liberia when he actively had symptoms. But heres the part, sean, that i think is going to be most troubling for Public Health officials, particularly the cdc. Because the cdc is probably in the next day or two going to come out with new guidelines on it. When you have been in contact with people who have ebola, particularly to the degree this doctor did treating them over there in guinea. Should you be on Public Transportation . Remember what the centers for Disease Control said a little more than a week ago about amber vinson flying on that flight from cleveland to dallas, centers for Disease Control dr. Tom frieden said she should not have been on that flight. She uie apparently had some sys over the weekend. One of the symptoms she had was fatigue. Then she got on that flight. So should this doctor have gotten on a 1ccsubway . Should he have gotten in an uber car . And should he have been out at places like a Bowling Alley, a restaurant in the highline park here in new york city . I think its going to raise a lot of questions because centers for Disease Control and a lot of people get the idea that these m midcourse correctionsa io sugg Public Health infra structure in the United States thats making a lot of this up as they go along. If i could just finish, sean yeah. When people should get on these Public Transportation conveyances and when they should not. John, it was three weeks ago today that dr. Frieden said essentially any hospital in the country can handle ebola. You dont need a special room, you do need a private room and private bathroom. Then you mention the case of amber vinson. She got on a plane, does all the right things, calls the cdc, says she has a low grade temperature, 99. 5, get on a plane you dont reach the 100. 4 threshold we have set up. Even though 13 of people with ebola dont necessarily get a fever. And this doctor comes back and has fatigue as a symptom and goes to all these public places. I understand that theyll reconfigure whatever the guidelines are. Dont they seem always a day late and a dollar short here . Which is why i said to a lot of people it looks like Public Health officials of this8ypj tend to be making it up as they go along with these midcourse corrections. Of course there are some people in the administration you will say everything will be better now that we have an ebola czar. But there really is a learning curve here, sean. Its . Cz proven to be steep. Theres a b ÷ learning curvet 233 doctors that were treating people in these ebolaravaged countries, medical professionals, have already died. We know ihjuj without borders have had 16 people infected, nine of them have died. nri you would think we might have learned something from those medical professionals and what theyve been going through. Right. Heres my prediction, some time within the next week we will hear newgbpy guidelines that ml professionals who are returning to the United States after service in west africa must quarantine themselves for 21 days. Thats my prediction. All right. Thank you, john roberts joining us tonight. We appreciate all of that. We bring back our medical panel. I want to get your guys reaction to this. The fact symptom, fatigue. Heres the question. If somebody is treating in liberia, guinea, sierra leone taking care of these patients and comes back to the United States, why at this late date are they not being quarantined for the 21 or 42 days that is recommended . Two months ago i said on your show we had a quarantine. The United States is going to be the great hope of mankind, but it has to be a leader here. The world is a neighborhood. Infections spread fast. You have to have a new hygiene policy, a new quarantine policy, a new immune system protection policy, and you have to 5iz tr treatments. They laughed at us when we used there are simple drugs that may help in the early stages. It seems the wrong youre shaking your head. Were all being told, im not the medical professional, but you need to have fullblown symptoms to really be contagious. Okay. Ill take that. But this guy was taking care of ebola patients. He comes back to the United States. And in the course of feeling fatigue yesterday, not realizing u ebola, heterday, not realizing went bowling, went on a train, went jogging, went to a restaurant and out in public pretty much everywhere. How do you do Contact Tracing there . Its a very difficult job for the cdc and for Public Health because he was in so many environments where a lot of people congregate. I think it also tells you a little bit about his mindset. Go bit about what he was thinking. He was in an environment where i believe hexnb5st have felt very confident that he was protected with the information that he had and the suits he was given. M6aj thats all the more reas the truth is that tells us more about how much respect we really need to treat this problem. I think that is a really good way to put this. We need to show this virus a lot of respect when 233 medical professiws hkc in west africa have died. Dr. Baden. I but were dealing with a virus and the politics of fear. Two separate things. And i think i would give credit to cdc for whatever it was doing with all the thousands of people who travel all the Global Travel and all the contacts one person has a hundred contacts. But weve only had 35 countries have travel ban. Why dont we . Whatever ocmcdcs been doine have just a small number of infected people. Bad. We dont want even one. But were going to have but dr. Baden, i love you, you know that. But they should have here this guy came and was treating ebola patients. Youre rightl niahp hc shouldnt he have been quarantined . The answers yes. The answers probably yes on that. We now at this point maybe consider what france has done, what england has done, what other european middle Eastern Countries and african countries have done. Nigeria in 42 days was able to be ebola free because they did not allow travel from these ebolaravaged countries. Should we follow that example . Im concerned because theres so many aspects to banning travel. You ban travel to scientists going into the contagious areas. Were going to pick up with our medical panel in a minute. Joining us now in front of the ebola patients apartment right here in new york city is wnyw reporter matt king with us. Matt, thanks for being with us. Whats the latest out there . So were on 147th and broadway in hamilton heights. Things are pretty quiet out here. Not a lot has changed. The few residents who live here who have been willing to talk to us have all been pretty calm and level headed. They say theyre not q its not airborne, theyre going to keep staying here and theyre not very concerned. There have been a lot of residents blown right past us, theyve had cameras outside all day not willing to speak. All right i just lost your feed for a second. Let me go back to my medical panel here. How many agree it should have been quarantined or anybody thats in contact with anybody with ebola . Quarantine, quarantine, quarantine. P xeq erybodys in contact. In contact with somebody with ebola in this country in other words nobodys gottendfw÷ for example, those doctors in particular considering theres been such a high rate. Right. S wo the doctors are especially vulnerable because of their contacts with people with lots of viruses. You agree with that . This was a mistake by in this particular situation where you have medical professionals who are in contact important that we establish a who are not necessarily asking to be in that role. And new york city is a special situation as well. Especially if people are really symptomc subway. Thats got to d people. A high concentration of people in penn station and yeah. Would you have another feeling if this doctor now has had contacts with lots of people, if none of those people come down with ebola, would that make you a little bit more i agree with what the doctor said earlier and that is i think weve got to show greater respect here. And i think up to this point weve been too complacent. In other words, we should have put in place a travel ban like other countries. And anybody coming from these countries. These great doctors and medical professionals, i admire them, but if they were in contact with ebola patients, they need to quarantine themselves. They need to be quarantined by i think the total picture of having all Health Care Workers, nurses, doctors, all hospin6 . Putting all these garments on and learning thats not possible. Theyre still getting it. 23 3 medical professionals in west africa. But theyre coming back here. I got to go back to matt king. I lost your d local reporter in new york za1n hes outside the apartment as as i understand it of the apartment of the doctor that contracted ebola. I dont know how much you heard last time so im going to repeat myself. Those residents that have talked to us profess not to be worried but said they did recognizez[ q doctor and his fiancee. There have been a lot of not willing to talk. Theyve had cameras outside all day. Those that do want to talk say they are not worried. They knew the doctor. His apartment is all sealed off in there. Weve heard it was going to remain sealed off until he was diagnosed. Now that hes tested positive, kind of cleanup will go on in the space that hef j lived. All right. Mack, thanks so much. We appreciate that report. What do we do about the 4,000 american troops that are now in these ebolaravaged countries . From what ive read theyre only getting four hours of training. What i also read is theyre not fully clothed. In other words, there were american troops building tents withpj,n individual put up a very different front. We need to make sure training is up to a standard that some four hours of training is not complete considering what theyre dealing with. Anyone who had experience onf hazmat suit understands its a different procedure, after four hours, people would have difficulties just with that aspect. And the amount of time, youre working in a difficult environment with a lot of stressful conditions. Are we putting troop lives in jeopardy by not giving more training and perhaps equipment . I think under the right circumstancescyen wed bey l pu some in no harms way. The information is that the soldiers are protected to the standard we hold any Health Professional to. Joining us on the phone now is the g. O. P. New york gubernatorial candidate rob aspirino. I did noticena governor. I stood in front of the United Nations because we see whats happening and just the other way, warned new york that ebola was coming, coming via airplane. I. bc called for a travel ban ao kuomo ridiculed me, i said rule out anyone a disembarked plane coming from one of these nations lets do that way as a way to prevent it. Saying do what theyre doing in europe now. Unfortunately, we have up to 1. 4 cases with a 71 mortality rate by the end of the year. This is crazy. Homeland security said there will be a ban in all airports in america except five, including newark and jfk. We have a governor that has not spoken out at all. Rob q9ocastorino, thanks for joining us. Now, we go back to Bellevue Hospital in new york city. Fox medical team city doctor is standing by. One person we havent heard from is the ebola czar he has no medical background, no Emergency Management background. Basically a political hack. At a moment like this, another case happened when the president said its unlikely to happen. Whether or not he should have picked a renowned medical professional, a military person . Is this the right pick for this . Ive never thought its the right pick for this. We need a physician involved. This is when the rubber hits the road you know . Is the center for disease dronl here yet . Are we relying on the new York City Health department . We havent heard from . What about Sylvia Burwell . We need people to inspire Public Confidence weve got a situation here, where even if this physician only put a few people at big risk, you know, waiting for symptoms prior to that, he was exposed to many people, there are all kinds of need for contacting tracing. This is a Public Health mess right now. We need people to get out there in front of this beyond just the mayor of new york city, and the governor. On the federal level we have a problem here, we dont have a spokesperson. Well, then, go back to New York Times and thier pointing out in other words to in terms of the stories from spinning out of control, and they talked about you know controlling messes and there is nobody better, what is important here is framing from a political perspective. If anyone can get reporting under control, its ron claim. Is this a health issue . We have some of the best doctors and greatest professionals. World renowned doctors boy think that would be a better choice. Seems like they made a Political Choice here.  key thing wont it have been great if he had said you know if you are coming from patients you should be with what is happening already. Not to message we dont need more messaging. Yes. We need good Public Health measures. Lets go back to what weve learned tonight about the report that a day prior to this doctor the first symptom, he still went out and went jogging and to a restaurant to a Bowling Alley that has now been closed. What does that mean for Contract Tracing . Its going to be difficult to figure out there are two subway trains. Its almost impossible to figure out everyone in contactudh wit reassure viewers how do we know he didnt spread secretion somewhere . We dont know. Ebola can live in secretions for several hours the president said the cdc director saying any hospital can take care of this. You can travel and i would argue in this case that the cdc probably made a mistake. Anyone taking care of the patients, dont you agree, probably should have been quarantined for 21 days . If not recommended 42 days they put out there . Sean, i agree with that. And they, after the fact said all 75 workers down in dallas should be quarantined lets hope dolby hospital does better, it has a long tradition treating patients withnzil tuberculosis and hivaids. Lets hope we can see no spread to any other Health Care Workers. The spotlight is on bellevue tonight. What about the doctor from the nih making statement only two beds were available that were fully capable of treating someone with ebola symptoms . Then, we found out there are only 11 such beds nationally . Do you think that is enough . Do we have to worry about more cases every day . Well, you know because the reason that that is an interesting statement is because those are the places where people know how to take care of ebola. The problem is that you cant just tell a hospital take care of eeb yoela. Here is your suit and hood. And here is your gloves you take nurses that get very nervous theyre going to make mistakes we need to designate centers. 11 beds is not enough. Dr. Seigel reporting tonight from Bellevue Hospital where this patient has been taken. He has come back after taking care of the patients. And a new york city around 2 00 thisu afternoon. A hatchet wielding assailant struck one officer in the arm before landing a very seefrp blow to another officers head we have videotape of this right to his head and other officers on the scene fireed and killed this man. Some are questioning tonight whether this is an act of terror. Law enforcement sources have told us that you know theyve [d[uz his facebook, on the facebook it says, quote, the solution is to fight, armed struggles, simple. Another statement says helicopters, big military will be useless on their own soil. They will not be able to defeat our people if we use guerrilla war fair. So were following that breaking news tonight. Were going to continue to follow it throughout the day and night here on the fox news channel. Another case in new york city. A doctor in west africa has been diagnosed with eeb yoela. Being treated at Bellevue Hospital in new york city. We have a long press conference tonight. Showing first symptoms yesterday, he had fatigue. And went on the train, went jogging and a restaurant. There is going to be a lot of tracing coming up. Stay tuned a special edition of the kelly fififififile is com next, thanks for joining us. And our continuing coverage of these two major breaking news continues now. First, what may have been a lone wolf terrorist attack in new york city. This is Surveillance Video of the suspect just moments before he ambushed two Police Officers with an axe. Those two Police Officers have been hospitalized with arm and head injuries the most severe is listed as critical but stage the suspect shot and killed by police and tonight the authorities are not ruling out lone wolf terrorism. More on this developing story in just moments. Also breaking tonight another confirmed case of ebola in america the firstever case in new york city. The