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These tragedies. Speak out the dayton situation, he was a fan of antifa. He was a fan of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Nothing to do with trump. I dont blame Elizabeth Warren and i dont blame Bernie Sanders, in the case of ohio. And i dont blame anybody. These are six sick people. Whether its White Supremacy or any other kind of supremacy, whether its antifa, whether its any group of hate, i am very concerned about and they will do something about it. Melissa meantime, democratic ohio senator Sherrod Brown refusing to attend todays events with the president. I will not be there with him. I dont have any interest, because of what hes done his total unwillingness to address the issue of guns. His racist rhetoric. I welcome them to the state in some sense, but not about this. Melissa the president also going back and forth with beto orourke. Overcoming the president he has no place in el paso. The president treating, beto, for needing to indicate it has heritage, or work. He was embarrassed by my last visit where i trounced him, hes not even more embarrassed by my polling at 1 in the democratic primary. Should respect the victims and Law Enforcement and be quiet. Overworked responding today hes trying to intimidate this community. Make us afraid of one another, our differences, the border, of immigrants. And we will not stand down. Every single one of us is standing up to be counted at this defining moment of truth. So i stand with this community. Melissa and 2020 candidate joe biden planning to blast of president and i would stay. He is expecting to say, in both clear language and in code, this president has fanned the flames of White Supremacy in this nation. Despite all this, el pasos republican mayor says these political attacks are a distraction. Ive been trying to avoid politicizing any part of this. I dont think its proper for the families, and it is not reflective of our community. At our vigil sunday, the mantra was, we will confront hate with love. Im trying to carry that forwar forward. I understand people running for political office, but thats not we are about today. I am representing all of el paso as meet with the president. Melissa the mayors right, it would be nice if people could stop running for president for one day. Mr. Chaffetz lets try that and see how that goes. I thought the president this morning, before he boarded marine one, have the right tone. I think when he was directly asked about the idea of the White Supremacy or hate groups he said everyone from White Supremacy to antifa, there is no place for hate groups. The president , i think, said the right thing. And i think he meant the right thing. But some of these others wont let him out of that box. I dont think thats a good message and it certainly is bad timing. Melissa jessica . Jessica i think this is really difficult. The mayor of el paso and the mayor of dayton have incredibly tough jobs right now. They have a grieving community full of republicans and democrats that they need to deal with. We know that when people attack we all bleed the same. But at the same time, the rhetoric that did contribute, at least to the el paso attack, is very real. There are correlations not only in the manifesto but the postings on the 8chan discussion where the mere with the president said of his rallies. Its incredibly unfair when people say he was in in the Elizabeth Warren supported. Elizabeth warren has never called anyone to be violent. She never said, show up at your neighbor on Goldman Sachs and real the weapon and go after the bankers. Her messages about income inequality. Its important for people mr. Chaffetz the president didnt do that. He didnt say to bring a gonna do something. Kennedy ilhan omar retreated tom arnold glorifying please stop acting like its onesided. Please, please, please. Please. Jessica no. The president has a rally where he said, what are we going to do about this . Somebody yelled shoot them and he said that only happens in the panhandle. He said he would pay the legal fees for people who beat up protesters. Kennedy he said you can only get away with that in the panhandle. He was joking. It was a stupid joke. It was a bad response melissa okay, lets take a breath for a second. We are also looking at people getting together here to respond to victims of a horrible tragedy. So maybe lets take it down a notch. Lisa i think the fact there is so much mudslinging on a day where we are supposed be honoring these victims, as well as visiting people struggling and fighting for their lives, in these two cities, shows the problem with Politics Today on the toxicity that exists. I want to honor some of these victims who died. You have david johnson, who was with his wife and granddaughter. In the el paso walmart. He died shielding them, trying to protect their lives. You have Andre Anchondo and jordan anchondo, who both died. The wife you live 2monthold child who is now going to live without parents. Either a father or a mother. You have lois oglesby and dayton, ohio, who leaves behind a daughter and a newborn baby. You look at the dates and victims alone, eight children. At least eight children they leave behind that are going to grow up without parents. I think today, at least, we should honor those people and talk about their lives and celebrate their lives and honor them today. Melissa before you respond, let me just say the point made on the New York Post covered this week, this morning, crazy has no party. Is it appropriate at this point, kennedy, to try and figure out even what politics some crazy killer has . Kennedy no, people are hyper politicized and it doesnt mean because you are passionate about an issue or a candidate that you are going to act violently because of that. Or because you go to the president s rally, that somehow you are propagandized and now one step closer to a murderous act. Jessica what about the pipe bomber, then can i can really curious. His lawyer in court said the defense was he became indoctrinated by what he saw on television. Kennedy if youre talking about well, there are mentally ill people who unfortunately engage in heinous acts like that. Jessica but its a large percentage of mass shooters that have mental illness. Thats doctors who say that, not me. Kennedy i will take a different turn here. I think lisa is right. If beto is worth his salt, he would do it lisa boothe just didnt talk about the lives cut short. Keep alive some of those stories of these lives that have ended. I think thats a much more appropriate response. Also, if one of these people wants to act like a grownup and get together with some republicans who are offering their solutions on issues like red flag laws and gun control, which we will get into, but that out. If we put forward that, enumerating the president s past verbal sins as though his words are the same as bullets, i think that is cheap, its immature, and dishonest. Our political discourse is overheated right now, and its overheated from both sides. Melissa hang on, i the brother of 2020 president ial candidate julian castro, texas, san joaquin castro, doubling down in the face of an uproar after he highlighted the names of businesses of past trunk toners in his district. Hes tweeting out this graphic. We burned up the names. He writes, the contributions are fueling a campaign of hate that label hispanic immigrants as invaders. Congressman Steve Scalise tweeting, people should not be to personally targeted for their political views, period. This isnt a game, its dangerous, and lives are at stake. I know this firsthand. But congressman castro not backing down, saying this information is already public and these donors are fundraising a dangerous campaign. That graphic lifts peoples names. Many of them are business owners, so that on those companies. These are prominent donors. Many of them are public figures. Their money is being taken and used and used to fuel these hateful ads. It has put millions of people in this country in fear. There are people right now who are living in fear, and i dont think the president understands that. I dont think those donors understand it. But they need to understand what their money is going to. Melissa white House Counsel to the president , kellyanne conway, responded to that here. It doesnt matter that is public record. It matters that he put together some kind of target list, and he is trying to make life miserable or worse for lawabiding citizens who are expressing their First Amendment rights to put their money where their politics are. Melissa jason, this is what i dont understand. If youre sitting there on the left and you feel like the president s rhetoric has People Living in fear, and then you respond by lashing out to make sure other people are living in fear, how is that helpful to this situation . Thats what i dont get about the response from those who are saying that this is the president s fault. And then they respond with something that, by their own definition, was also caused jason it isnt consistent in its absolute wrong. What he was trying to do is shame them. Kim strassel from the wall street journal, one of the best journalists over there, wrote a whole book about that because the intimidation game. Thats precisely what theyre trying to do, is intimidate people so they wont express and use their First Amendment rights to donate to a political campaign. We should be encouraging more people to get involved on all sides. By the way, nobody has brought this up yet. I dont think what he did is actually legal. As a member of congress, if i wanted to go look at who dont need some deals come i cant take that list and say, i bet if they do hundred to this campaign, they would donate to mine. Thats against fcc laws. There will be interesting to see. On the moral side, this is not helpful. You even have Ted Cruz Making a point, cant we just ratchet it down a little bit . To go spend money on the ad, the people in your own backyard, to shame them from your Vantage Point because theyre participating in the public of processed . Theres no room for that. Its wrong. Melissa is there any way to turn it out at this point . Lisa i dont know. It honestly has to be a collective front in doing so. If you go down the line, you did this come he said this, no one has the moral high ground right now in Politics Today. I do think this is very dangerous, putting these people on the internet. Look what happened to Mitch Mcconnell the of the day. You had protesters outside of his house talking about wanting someone to stab him in the heart. As Steve Scalise pointed out, he was part of the republicans kennedy he almost died. Lisa he almost died. As jessica pointed out earlier, if someone is sentenced to 20 years in jail because they are sending bombs to democrats. We are at the point where everyone has lost their collective minds. Putting alyssa people online is in fact endangering them. Its completely unstoppable. Anyone trying to defend him, shame on you. That is absolutely despicable behavior. Everyone should be collectively shutting this down and saying theres no place in politics for that kind of behavior. Melissa jessica, i understand the sentiment that it starts from the top. Tone from the top. But now were the point where it starts with each and every one of us. You cant control anyone elses behavior. Maybe everybody individually can try and turn it down. Jessica absolutely, im not in support of this move by the castro campaign. Obviously, his twin brother i think its dangerous. I was looking through the list and i saw theres a retired woman on it. They didnt even have her employer. I could be a little old lady sitting in her house by herself that has this information put out there. If you want to be making the case which i feel is important about why this president s policies do not benefit the country and do not benefit the community of el pas el paso specifically, make that case. I understand that information is public but when it comes from someone in the position of power, like when trump targets people, its dangerous and we dont need that right now. Kennedy can i just add very quickly . Instead of putting those names out. Only a few things will happen. You either intimidate people from donating in the future or insight people to do god knows what. Even if you just verbally confronting them. Sit down with these people, if you are joaquin castro, and ask why they support the president. Maybe you dont know what it is about his policies or his personality that got them to donate in the first place. A little curiosity goes a long way. Melissa we will continue to follow the president and as things happen there we will certainly bring it to life. In the meantime, new in the fbi scandal over antitrump texts, former fbi agent peter strzok now suing the very agency he once worked for. Why some legal experts say this will go nowhere. Plus, as the president speaks to unite a nation, the g. O. P. Appears to be coming together on some kind of gun control. What the president is saying about these new efforts. Home,and need cash . You should know about the newday va guaranteed cash out loan. 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Meanwhile, republicans appear to be coming together on new guncontrol measures. Done soon saying hes confident. That congress will act on red flag bills that will empower local officials to take weapons from potentially dangerous people. Senator Lindsey Graham proposing legislation to do justice. Senate majority leader Mitch Mcconnell tax and Committee Chairs look into this and other ideas. Congress and mike turner saying he will support a ban on the sale of militarystyle weapons, and a limit on the ammunition purchases. He represents the district that includes dayton. His daughter was across the street from the shooting on sunday. Right now the president says there is no political will for an assault weapons ban, but he does want to discuss it. Watch. I can tell you that there is no political appetite for that at this moment, you can speak and do your own polling, and there is no political appetite for it from the standpoint of legislature. But i will certainly bring that up. I will bring it up as one of the points. Kennedy jason, it looks like there will will be some mt on background checks and red flag laws. Will that make a difference here, or are we putting our energy in the wrong place . Jason no, i think there is a demand in the public to do something. To at least try to do something. Lets not kid ourselves we are not one law away from solving all these mass killings. Plenty of laws were broken when people started murdering other people. With that said, i put out an oped today. Its at foxnews. Com and it basically says we should address the Mental Health issue and those that are getting crossed with Law Enforcement. Serious infractions, not your typical little truancytype things. When you become an adult, 18, i dont think you should just have your record expunged and we should forget what you did as a 17 and 18yearold. If youre doing something of great violence that maybe would be a precursor to violence that might help identify that person, as they become 18, thats why they have the National Criminal background check. That type of information should continue on. I think the Public Safety component far outweighs the need for privacy for juveniles really get sideways with the law or maybe have a medical professional thing this person is not fit to establish right from wrong. Kennedy you can read jason chaffetzs entire oped at foxnews. Com. Its up there right now if you want to peruse those ideas a little bit further. Instead of calling the president a racist and saying hes the cause of these shootings, which is very jessica die kennedy im not done. Why not talk to republicans like pat toomey or dont like you are more interested to finding solutions to what can be a bipartisan bill that has a better chance of passing now than after sandy hook. Jessica first of all come in response, i was not blooming the president kennedy im talking about democrats in general who are going on twitter and running for president , reacting very basely instead of proposing legislation. But im responding to his congressman chaffetz, who said he risk dominic represented other republican views who have a visa shifted on this issue. Why dont they jessica i think they will. Great. Pat toomey was on, i believe, americas newsroom the other day talking about an assault weapons ban. Which she wouldnt be in favor of because they are popular weapons. I think that kind of thinking needs to go by the wayside. The president is not right about the appetite for an assault weapons ban. I do think it is there and we saw the positive effects there for the ten years that it was, about 394 to 2004. Universal background checks . Wonderful to hear the conversation about red flag laws. So ive seen some pushback from gun owners think its slippery slippery than we have the boyfriend loophole, the charleston loophole. There was a poll out last week that found that 20 of millennials are reporting they have no friends. Zero friends. There is something really to be addressing there about the loneliness and the friends that people then make online in these dangerous communities. That certainly is the Mental Health aspect on most focused o on. Kennedy but thats a cultural issue and not necessarily a government issue. How do you legislate loneliness . Melissa this is one of those problems that obviously is going to take a lot of different things, and know one thing is going to get rid of it. I hate when we sit here and say, this wouldnt solve that. Whatever. Its like any complicated and huge problem where it takes a lot of different things, but we can do it. I like when states go after it on their own and i like the idea of the federal government getting together and encouraging a rewarding behavior. When a state looks at their own community, what are the norms there . What has helped . What are the problems . And you legislate locally. You look at things kennedy and looting in florida. Lisa what i think melissa is correct in that assertion that thats the best thing that can happen, all you have to at is q has a great work done of gun ownership in the country. The challenge is everyone on this couch comes from different areas and has different viewpoints of gun ownership. Rural, 46 are gun owners, versus urban, 19 . Republicans twice as likely to own guns than democrats, and thats a challenge in trying to move forward on a lot of these issues, because there are so many different mentalities, depending on where you are from. Kennedy yes. Under an assault weapons ban, any somatic weapon, including a 9millimeter pistol, will be banned. 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I think the most important stories how stable joe bidens frontrunner status has been. Are you surprised by this . Jason have never heard the words stable and joe biden posted in the same sentence. [laughter] as someone who never votes for democratic and would never vote for joe biden, i dont understand the appeal of looking to yesterday. I think it represents everything that is wrong. I just dont see the appeal. But i do understand, having looked at that poll, they just want somebody who can beat trump. But i think biden versus company debate, i relish that i dont think he would prevail but democrats sit to choose what they want to choose. I just dont see the appeal. And the vision, if you will come of joe biden. I dont get it. Jessica its the obamabiden vision. Thats what we are banking on. Biden is over 90 popular amongst all democrats, 99 approval amongst africanamerican voters. His candidacy does make sense when you considered in that light. Kennedy has candidacy and his legacy does, and has passed. I understand the name recognition , but to his presence is whats so problematic. Because he does make gaffes. He does have some issues with his longterm record. Bob gates said, hes been wrong on every Foreign Policy issue for the last four decades. There are things like that. I dont think hes the ideal candidate, and i think the rest of this contest is going to be very tough on him. I think the next few years, if hes elected, are going to be very tough. Therefore, whomever he chooses is the vp, i dont think theres been a more critical pick. Maybe now he seems compared to the rest of the field Kamala Harris has dropped off five points. That is surprising, considering. Melissa unfortunately the words he strings together when hes at a debate do not make sense. This is one of those situations where i see these polls where conventional wisdom has nothing to do with reality. When people are just regurgitating, everyone says hes the guy who is most likely to win. I dont think thats true. When you see mother jessica who do you think is most likely to enact . Melissa who could beat trump . Kennedy Pete Buttigieg melissa asked me someone with a ton of passion by the paid like an Elizabeth Warren, or jessica shes the only one on the ascendancy. Lisa just because your biden is the front runner now doesnt mean you will be the front runner after he gets to iowa, new hampshire, et cetera. You can look at the 2004 race. John kerry was in fourth place in january. He didnt emerge as the front runner until after the iowa caucus. You can look at 2008, obama did not become the front runner until february of 2008. So we have a long way to go. There are multiple debates. As youve seen, a candidate can have some really bad performances. That could potentially change the dynamic. Its just so early. Kennedy i cant wait for the iowa state fair. [laughter] all the corn. 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The scope of the Top Republican on judiciary blasting the move. Congressman doug collins saying, chairman nadlers request is so far outside the scope of judicial ethics, its harassment. Senate democrats spent months launching false accusations in an attempt to smear Justice Kavanaughs rotation and block his confirmation as the u. S. Supreme court, and our House Democrats want to follow suit with yet another fishing expedition to tarnish his good name. Jessica, i jessica [whispering] do they know he was confirmed . Im wildly aware. Melissa was upside to doing that . Jessica the argument chairman nadler has made is that they havent given all the documents they asked for during the confirmation. I think they could impeach him, but im not sure thats what the game plan is. Kennedy what is the game plan . With the end game . Jessica even though i read that outtro like that, im not a member of the committee pre[laughter] i think they are performing their oversight function. Brett kavanaugh a neil gorsuch to a lesser extent our lightning rod im fully aware, and we are talking on the break that rbg has got to hang on. Kennedy can have one more thing . I want to start with kavanaugh. I dont think we should end there, we should look at larry craig. I think theres Unanswered Questions into the former congressman. I dont buy his resignation. I think Something Else was going on there. In fact, i dont think we should stop there. We should look into some of the comments on strom thurmond. Maybe finally get some answers this is completely necessary, because democrats dont need ideas. They dont need an agenda. They dont need anything on the docket. They just need stunts and they will take the house, the senate, and the presidency with that mentality. Lisa he went through six background checks, including a supplemental. They turned over more documents than the last five Supreme Court nominees combined. I think he has been litigated in the public eye as well as congress, probably more than any other nominee. So i think thats done. Melissa how does this politically benefit them . Jason there is a fundamental problem in the opportunity cost, this is where the house judiciary is spending their time. All the issues that face our nation, this is where they are spending their time . And there is no precursor to justify diving into records. It is truly, as doug collins, the congressman from georgia, said, its truly a fishing sedition. There might be something wrong, we dont know what it is. Theres a pattern with democrats who run these fixing area traditions to propose something where they have areas of wrongdoing. Kennedy clarence thomas, what he really said about the coke can melissa former fbi official peter strzok now suing the Justice Department saying President Trump should the agencies over firing over his antitrump Text Messages during the russian investigation. Does . 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Melissa we want to tell you this is coming from the white house spokesperson, happening now, the president and First Lady Melania Trump are meeting with patience at Miami Valley Hospital in dayton. Theyve been stopping between rooms to think hard working medical staff. Very powerful moments for all. We will bring you live pictures of that as they come in. In the meantime, kennedy. Or, lisa. [laughter] lisa theres that, and theres also this. New reaction to former fbi agent peter strzok suing the fbi and the doj over firing. Strzok became known for sending inflammatory text message about President Trump during the russian investigation, which also eventually got him removed from Robert Mueller steam. Strzok also played a key role in the eller clinton email probe. But now his lawyers are saying, its indisputable that his termination was the result of President Trumps unrelenting Retaliatory Campaign of false information, attacks, and direct appeals to top officials. Former chairman trey gowdy dismissing claims that President Trump pressured the fbi to fire him. Watch what had to say. Peter strzok need blame no one other than himself for writing what he wrote. He was unfit to investigate either of the president ial candidates. How this is going to turn out . I dont know. Its a d. C. , i dont know what a jury is going to do with him, but hes unfit for Law Enforcement. Whoever fired him i guess it was Christopher Wray im sure he did not do it because of pressure from President Trump. Lisa congressman, does peter strzok have any standing here . Jason no, he doesnt. First of all, if the president wanted to make a fire them unilaterally without any reason. But it was mueller that dismissed him. Remember, it was the Inspector General who highlighted this first. The Inspector General couldnt get the Text Messages of which there were more than 10,000. I love my wife, we communicate regularly, but 10,000 Text Messages . To somebody hes having an affair with, within the department can back that alone this guy should never have had a security clearance, let alone have the seniormost position he had. Lisa to the congressmans point, why is he saving, then came asked me when i dont know. If i were him i would duck out of the limelight altogether. Every time his name comes up, everybody brings up the affair and the texts and everything that went on. It wasnt just that. But it was also that the Inspector Generals report revealed that he repeatedly lied. Lied to the department, lied while under oath. Thats not what you want from a Law Enforcement official. Beyond the fact that we saw about a new look it up, and he said it was totally inappropriate. He immediately fired him. I cant imagine what hes thinking. I would change my name and move the fire him. Probably to another country. Lisa part of the reason why they became an issue, the Text Messages were on an fbi phone. Jessica i do not send Text Messages on my work from. I dont even have one. I would like one. [laughter] melissa dont get when [laughter] Jessica Peter strzok has obviously done significant damage in his words and deeds to his reputation. From looking at what has lawyers have been saying hes a legend, these are real conversations we could have. He alleges his first and fifth amendment rights have been violated. We still dont know who authorized the release of his Text Messages. It did not come for michael horowitz, the ig. At one point he also brings up, which i think is important, the president tweeted about him directly over a dozen times. Putting pressure on Rod Rosenstein and Christopher Wray. The president did want him out of office and he also raises issues that they were anticlinton fbi agents in the new york office who fed information to rudy giuliani, who then went on tv and spewed out by accident. Right before the launch the Anthony Weiner computer probe the end up, buy some analyses by nate silver, for instance, costing her the election. So i think he does have a real case for the stuff to be looked at. I dont know how it turns out, im not a lawyer. Lisa kennedy . Kennedy back to the information about Hillary Clintons emails being on Anthony Weiners laptop. They knew that in midseptember of 2016 and they didnt act on that information. That was made plain to fbi leadership. So as far as that, peter strzok had a number of choices that he was able to make. Hes also the odd human bridge between the end of the Hillary Clinton email server investigation and the beginning of the trump investigation before the mueller probe. He did make some bad choices and i think on some level he has to take responsibility for that. Also, in terms of optics, he didnt do himself any favors by how he came off in his comportment. That is aside from some of the private conversations he had on a governmentissued phone. He shouldve known better. He did make some bad choices, and at some point you have to take ownership of that. Melissa or leave the country and change her name. [laughter] kennedy i dont think theres any money for him to be made. If james comey can go out to get a 7 million book deal and make speeches, its not the same for peter strzok. Lisa any parting words as a former oversight chairman . Jason hes barking up the wrong tree and drawing more attention to himself. It was strzok who said he didnt want to be part of the mueller team because it would lead to impeachment. Again, a another devastation. He has no room being in Law Enforcement let alone being a seniormost person. Lisa move on. Mayor of chicago criticizing ivanka trump for what the mayor called nonsense treats on gun violence. So, does mayor lightfoot have a point, or is an argument of semantics . We would debate it. Stay with us. 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Police are responding, and we will give you more updates as we get them. She got the numbers wrong, she got the location wrong. Thats the danger of trying to govern via tweet. Its important when youre talking about peoples lives to actually get the facts correct. Im not going to be distracted by nonsense tweets from people who dont know what they are talking about. Kennedy that is chicagos mayor, lori lightfoot, ripping ivanka trump over her comments of the citys worst weekend of gun violence this year. If uncle trump tweeting yesterday, with seven dead and 52 wounded, a playground in the windy city ended Little National outrage or media coverage, we mustnt become numb to the violence in inner cities every day. The white house defending her tweets, releasing the statement. He remains important to note that there were seven deaths and 52 wounded across the city, resulting in one of the deadliest weekends in the city this year. Her point remains the same. We cannot ignore the gun violence that happens in cities across the country on a daily basis. Any person who is lost to tragedy and violence, that rips the family apart. And it is just as painful to someone who loses a Family Member and a mass shooting. I think thats the point if uncle trump was trying to make that there are other places where there is suffering. Just because you dont have this horrific number and a mass casualty event, it is still incredibly painful and we should still be empathetic to that. Frankly, i think the mayor is a little embarrassed that there is still this kind of violence, and it is intercity. Jason i think the point is lost on the mayor, that so many people are affected, weak income and week out. In a place with some of the most stringent laws on the books regarding guns. I wish there was a 1sighs, lets pass this and well solve it. Its hard to have days like this. Im tired of having days like this. But i think ivankas heart was in the right place. She should get the numbers right, but they were ultimately right. The violence, the gun violence in chicago, so many of the major cities, its off the charts. Things you dont see in rural america. You dont see it in other lets figure out why that is. And then trying to help solve the problem. Kennedy youve already taken the focus can put the off baltimore. If you really going to focus on cities and come up with solutions that fix some of the systemic problems, i think having a little bit of empathy is a good place to start. Jessica absolutely. Ive been spending a lot of time in chicago, its a wonderful city. Very segregated, totally split, whether you are in the north side of the south side of whats going on there, Lori Lightfoots newlyelected. She has made the turn number one priority. We should be supportive of that, absolutely. I think what shes reacting to is a switch in conversation that happens all too often from either a mass shooting or in this case a white supremacist mass shooting to, look at the black on black violence over there. If he was disingenuous coming from this administration where President Trump goes after elijah cummings. Suddenly its all, i really care about baltimore, when thats not consistent throughout the year. We need to see meaningful change but i think kennedy but there is something to be said, that the tragedy is felt equally. Jessica 100 . A life is a life. Lisa i want to get in here. Why not focus on it all . Ask yourselves, where people focusing on one specific shooting using add is add is that the political narrative against the president cannot quietly focus on all of it . Ivanka trump was largely right on the numbers. Seven dead, 52 wounded. Some were not all shot near playground. Those were the facts. The mayor should be concerned about that, why its happening in her neighborhood. Jessica i went back and reviewed reaction to president obama during these Mass Shootings, and a number of them he did talk about chicago, his hometown. Kennedy thanks to everyone and to jason chaffetz. We are back here on the couch tomorrow at noon eastern. Right now, lets go to Melissa Francis. She is in for harris. Melissa . Melissa fox news alert, President Trump fitting survivors at a dayton hospital where he was met with protest. Next he is set to make his way to el paso, texas, to comfort families of victims of the saturday shooting massacre. This is outnumbered overtime and im Melissa Francis in today for harris faulkner. President trump visiting ohio and texas today to console the families of victims, in two communities, after Mass Shootings over the beacon. Prominent democrats skipping todays events. Some planning to attend counter rallies. The president accusing his critics of trying to score political points. My critics are political people, they are trying to make points. In many cases they are running for president and they are very low in the polls. A couple of them in particular, very low in the