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Negotiations the way they are covering the investigation in the media and along with his role. And why hes fighting these battles on the air in the court of Public Opinion. Sean spicer, former trump spokesman takes on omarosa per the fired white house aide for her book trashing the president. Should the media be trumpeting her disputed allegations . The hightech war over free speech for apple, facebook, youtube and spotify. Dan alex jones but twitter refuses to follow suit. It is easy to dismiss concerns it all seems coordinated the shutdown jones p because he is a media poster child for conspiracy theories. But this isnt about alex jones. This is about freedom. Alex jones and Rosie Odonnell and all of these other people believe that Building Seven had imploded. And that it was, the United States government had killed americans on 9 11. Why anyone would listen to them, at all and alex jones my god is big tech cracking down allies and conspiracy theories . I am howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. From the day he joined President Trumps legal team the former mayor of new york has been a constant t. V. Presence in the battle against Robert Mueller. Driving the new cycle and taking media flack in the process. Done enough of new york is Rudy Giuliani. Welcome. How are you . Doing well we will drill down on the issues in a minute. Since you been on the case, how would you describe the overall Media Coverage of the Mueller Investigation . Hysterical. At times, taking things that are totally unimportant or relatively unimportant and driving it into all kinds of exaggerations. I think it is a bit of a hard case for them to handle because many of these things are very kind of they never understand when youre arguing an alternative. Even though it did not occur, it would be perfectly legal. And it didnt. And lawyers argue that all the time they get confused and then theres always, the prevailing bias against him. They did not want to elect him. They trying to delegitimatize him. Many of them remind me of peter strzok and the fbi. Probably texting the same things many of the journals that cover the president to peter strzok is interesting. Having the same sentiments he had. I heard them say. He would be a menace, he will be terrible. Absolutely. Lets get down to it. The media wrap on you, mr. Mayor, is to keep moving the goal post. You say donald trump is dying to testify. But then you keep offering such narrow terms like some written questions, none on obstruction, you make it impossible for Robert Mueller to accept and then you run out the clock. Its not to intercept. The reality is weve made a goodfaith offer to him. He did not reject it immediately. Which is a good sign. I think that he would say we have negotiated in good faith. We have not given him all that he wants. We have not given him all that he would like of us. But there is a way that the president would take and answer questions. But we are just not going to subject them to what we call perjury traps. I kind of think of it as malpractice if we did. I covered you when you worked for the Reagan Justice department in washington. I covered you when you were u. S. Attorney in manhattan. If the defense lawyer had said to you, and understand your representing a sitting president. But if a defense lawyer said to we need to limit your question of our client. You would laugh them out of the room. No, i wouldnt. I did not get to question most of the people that i prosecuted. Or decided not to prosecute. Its highly unusual that a person who was, whatever you want to call it, subject of an investigation, we know hes not the target. It is very unusual they have to testify. Most of my prosecutorial decisions were made without the benefit of what the defendant or possible defendant would say. They can make this decision without that. They have the benefit of knowing what hes going to say. Because he has given a full explanation. No collusion with the russians. He did not have that conversation with flynn and he had a very indepth interview that left a hole. Which explained the reasons for firing Robert Mueller. Im sorry, firing james comey. I dont want to make news but. [laughter] he almost did i want to play something for you. You been talking about a perjury trap and Robert Mueller this was said the other night, here are some comments by the New York Times reporter. What he said in the interview was that the president story if told to Robert Mueller, would put him he send the president s story is wrong. It is a lie. He just admitted on national tv. That is what they are saying. The president tells lets examine that. I do know if he is deliberately being like that or a complete moron. The reality is that you can be accused of perjury when you are telling the absolute truth. Let me give you an example. For that idiot. Which i attribute really to the malice of the New York Times. The president will testify if asked, that the conversation about Michael Flynn did not take place. Is where jim, claims he was asked could you give flynn a break . We even told the president if he said that its okay i mean it is perfectly justified. The president maintains he did not say that. Did not have the conversation. He said im not going to tell a lie. If he were to testify to that, even though james comey has a prior statement under oath, similar to the president , that there was no structure, no statement of obstruction. They could charge him with perjury. It is in their discretion to do that. Usa the president has said these publicly. If he says them under oath he could charge them with perjury therefore you dont wanted to testify. A lot of people it sounds like i know it does because they are being deliberately malicious about it. The reality is, i did not come to your house last night. You are lying. And you said, youre saying i did come to your house. They put me under oath and say i didnt go to his house last night. But they want to believe you even though you lied about it twice. I have no control over that. It is what they did to martha stewart. And since that case, all of us lawyers have been very careful. Even judge ellis way back in the Paul Manafort case that basically are trying to set perjury traps. Just for the record, Robert Mueller was duly appointed special counsel by Deputy Attorney general and also a lot of other pundits making the point. Let me ask you this because you been talking about all the other pundits are completely wrong. Reality is any lawyer will tell you this. Truth is in the eye of the beholder. And my client can be telling the truth, their witness can be a total scoundrel and if they decide to go with their witness, my client is going to get indicted or charge of perjury in some way. I dont know if they just dont want to understand where they want to say the president is lying. I will tell you, hes not lying. All the evidence is against call me james comey on this. Early you said the 4th of july, if you are in the Southern District of new york, and the defense lawyer had said to you, you really need to wrap this up. You would have said nice try, buddy not if i was going to run into an election. And violate the justice departments basic guideline. Like comey did. Which he was properly but there is no even, informal guideline that says you cannot continue an investigation during an election. Not to do anything publicly bring charges or make an announcement. If you cant help it then fine. But if in good faith, you can get it over with before, and he could, you Robert Mueller would not agree with that if you were asked. And i still think that he is going to try to wrap this up. Sometime in early september. And they made it clear they did not want to make the same mistakes that james comey made. To get personally hammered a lot. A very public role here appear particularly on msnbc, for example, to give you a chance to respond. Nicole wallace, a former Bush White House official said rudy needs to check his Carbon Monoxide monitors. And joe scarborough, a Onetime Republican congressman said while criticizing some of your comments, his eyes are bulging while hes talking and he looks disoriented. Do you feel disoriented mr. Mayor . Absolutely. I completely disoriented. Im sure sound that way. Doesnt this give you an indication of what you cover, how completely disoriented the press is and how out of control they are criticizing not only the president but everyone around them. You can disagree with me. Im probably disoriented. I know what i am and who i am. I dont even think it is worth commenting except for the fact that our their way out of control as journalists . Accusing of some kind of Mental Illness . That is in the political coverage of donald trump as opposed to the coverage of the investigation. A lot of coverage of the president is negative but Robert Mueller is running an investigation where there are indictments and guilty pleas. It is one thing to do that and another to say that a person is jury is disoriented who is not. They said about the present all the time. Scarborough has some deep animus to the president. I do not know if msnbc does. And ask about the broader indictment for you to have a chance, initially the president said he didnt know anything about a stormy daniell payment. Lady disclose he had in fact reimbursed hundred 30,000 payment. After the trump tower meeting with the russian lawyer, the white house said the president did not personally dictate the first statement when the story came out. Now your team says he did. And they went on television to say theyd be given the wrong information. Journalists say its like pulling teeth to get these admissions. Your response . When you consider the 1. 4 million documents that thousands of pieces of information, to have two or three, that originally and initially were wrong, is hardly anything but trying to get the facts straight as possible. These are not unusual things in the restoration. Usually the chance to correct these things and to go on the record. Weve not going on the record. We have got it down to i think now, something really comfortable. I have a few more questions. Let me ask you to stand by. Rudy giuliani in a moment. Later apple, facebook another Big Tech Companies banning alex jones. Is it for political reasons or his wild conspiracy theories . It is such a good time to kiss it is such a good time to dance it is such a good time to [ laughing ] scoobidoo doobidoo scoobidoo doobidoo [ goose honking ] [ laughing ] a bad day on the road still beats a good one off it. Progressive helps keep you out there. Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens brown paper packages tied up with strings these are a few of my favorite things these are a few of my favorite things too hot to work . Nah. This is the gator xuv835. With gamechanging heat and air, its never too anything for anything. You wont find relief here. Congestion and pressure . Go to the pharmacy counter for powerful claritind. While the leading allergy spray relieves 6 symptoms. Claritind relieves 8, including sinus congestion and pressure. Claritind relieves more. Were back with Rudy Giuliani. The process lawyer from new york. He said you thought Michael Cohen was honest and you found he taped donald trump and denies that he is discredited as a witness. But you put cooperating witnesses on the stand. For example with the famous Mafia Commission trial your office called the underboss of the cleveland crime family as the highest ranking mafia person ever to testify. Im not comparing the two but is not unusual in trials for somebody that pleaded guilty to a crime to use as a witness. Is not unusual and it is not unusual to try on it becomes a question on how bad is it and how clear is the impeachment . The reality is that on tape, Michael Cohen said all of the things that you would need to completely come to the conclusion that the president did nothing wrong. Anything he says now will have to contradict that. And of course will utilize that because we believe he will be doing it in order to basically sing for his supper. I would not would Michael Cohen lie . A man as a lawyer taped his own client, him and that taped a number of reporters including people under circumstances that are really he took his phone, made a big play of putting it in a drawer. Locking it, telling cuomo he wasnt being taped and then saying personal things. If he were to testify, we would point out can you believe that this man would not lie in order to stay out of jail . Speaking of taping, mr. Mayor, on meet the press this morning, omarosa, who was fired from the white house eight months ago, played a tape or nbc played the tape of john kelly firing her in the situation room eight months ag. She claims he threatened her, the early stories that she taped donald trump. What you make of that . I dont know. Im not representing the president in that. A you are not handling the case. I think between john kelly and omarosa, i know them both well. I would go with the general, the marine corps general. So i dont want to get into that but a me ask you this. You want to be talking to reporters all the time. In your capacity as the president s personal lawyer now. Robert mueller of course says nothing. He doesnt go into your give interviews. Why have you decided to literally try this case in the court of Public Opinion . Is it a strategy . It is absolutely deliberate. The reality is it is not a court case. The president cannot be indicted, they acknowledge that. Is not even an issue. So where does this get resolved . Ultimately, it gets resolved by a gas congress at some point decided they want to do something or not. Public opinion will be as you know, very important. When i came into the case, Public Opinion was against us. And we got lucky because a lot of bad things have happened to them since then. The horowitz report, peter strzok, maybe some of the things coming out of the trial i dont want to mention right now. Which we can talk about later. Now all of this stuff with the phony dossier that hillary paid for. We will utilize up to see that the president has been saying for some time it is illegitimate, a witch hunt. I think people are starting to believe it now. There was a poll last week that showed there was a 22 percent swing. Think of it this way, they are our jury, our grand jury. I think the numbers are going down. Obviously the campaign that you and your colleagues say has something to do with it. Rudy giuliani, i appreciate you being here hope you come back. Good to see you up next, our panel weighs in on an interview and the coverage on the Mueller Probe. And omarosa getting even with a tellall book. But is it credible . Sean spicer will be here. I woke up in memphis and told. harmonica interrupts . And told people about geico. harmonica interrupts how they could save 15 or more by. harmonica interrupts . By just calling or going online to geico. Com. harmonica interrupts sighs and chuckles sorry, are you gonna. harmonica interrupts everytime. Geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 or more on car insurance. Can make you feel unstoppable. But mania, such as unusual changes in your mood, activity or energy levels, can leave you on shaky ground. Help take control by talking to your doctor. Ask about vraylar. Vraylar is approved for the acute treatment of manic or mixed episodes of bipolar i disorder in adults. Clinical studies showed that vraylar reduced overall manic symptoms. 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Hes always defended the president and willing to get out there and go on various networks to talk about his case. I think he does a very fairly good job. People say is all over the map and today we talked to him about what he was disoriented or incoherent. It wasnt my phrase. He is pretty articulate and defend the president. He does point out the very point of fact that there is some inherent media bias that is influencing a lot of the coverage. And hes getting the argument out there. Hes making a very important argument on behalf of the president. What did you think of some of the terms used to describe journalists outside of the New York Times report and he talked about comparing journalists with peter strzok and overall, the points he made. Rudy gives colorful interviews. They are not dealt interviews with giuliani. I agree he is accessible. Sometimes i think he gets himself in trouble and for example a few weeks ago i was cohosting outnumbered on fox news channel. I made a few points about an interview he had given earlier in the day. He called and live to the show and we are on 25 minutes straight it was not planned. We block commercial breaks and we had for 25 consecutive minutes because he wanted to push back and get his message out there. He is definitely, definitely eager to go fist two cups with the press. Is also on the radio on friday. Two lawyers cohosted the show. That was extraordinary i needed to do a double take. Hannity, we know he is cozy with donald trump. It is no secret no one is trying to say otherwise. Having the trump lawyer like legal team guest poster radio show is a new level of coziness. I was surprised by that but apparently they were, they had a great time and they were very funny. All right they can take that down the road. As i mentioned, there are highly personal media attacks against Rudy Giuliani. Does it scoff up his reputation or does it divert arrows that would otherwise be aimed at President Trump . I think there are enough arrows to go around. As mayor giuliani just did point out in your interview. A lot of criticism that has been thrown at Rudy Giuliani has also been thrown at President Trump. So do not necessarily think that criticizing Rudy Giuliani for having some kind of mental incapacitation or you know whatever, you know the media it is taking away from donald trump. But rather, i think there is undoubtably media bias surrounding the investigation, Rudy Giuliani and the president. I think it all plays into the same narrative. A fair observation. I need to take another break. Well see all a bit later. Coming up, omarosa getting half an hour on meet the press today as she trashed donald trump after being fired. Sean speicher is on deck. And an apology from Stephen Colbert. Motorcycle revving motorcycle revving motorcycle revving motorcycle revving no matter who rides point, there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. 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When he talks that way, the way he did on this tape it confirmed that he is truly a racist. Thepresident had a brief but pungent response when a reporter asked about his former aide. Mr. President do you feel betrayed by omarosa . She is a lowlife. Joining us now, we have the four White House Press secretary, sean spicer paid author of a new book debriefing, politics, the press and the president. Given the omarosa was fired eight months ago from the white house, and shes trying to sell a book about the present which happens to be unhinged, how seriously should the media take her charges . Not at all. This is someone that says she resigned moments after she left the white house, now she says she was fired. Its owners of the present was not a racist. Now she says he was. She says the president was a great man that accomplished a lot common she calls into question. What is changing is eight months . She went on the record after she left the white house specifically talking about how she left the white house, why she left the white house and what she thought about the president. And she selling a book. The only thing changed issues now looking to make money off of it and sell a book. Where having gone through the process myself, my guess is she sat down with publishes and said if you say the following, we can give you more money. This is complete opportunism and it is completely false. Sarah Huckabee Sanders says the book is full of lies and false accusations. It is interesting because omarosa says when stuff started to leak out that she had heard, herself, she with trump using the n word in the apprentice days but in the book she says sources supposedly had a tape of this. Then she said on meet the press again today, how credible is this . Not at all. And for all of these news organizations to talk about the need to use facts and pursuing the truth, here they are taking someone that has been largely discredited by her own words within a matter of months. Putting her on an esteemed political talk show. As a lead guest. Wishing her well and passing along accolades on the book. As opposed to recognizing what this is. It is opportunism and it is completely false. Your say she is nowhere to be interviewed . She has the right. But look at the questions, look at the spotlight. These are the same people that ignored her during her time at the white house. Who did not deem her credible. Hoot clearly, through her own words interviews and contradictions is not credible. And yet, these members of the media who decry the use of fake news, who talk about the need to pursue facts and the truth, give her a platform and highlight her because why . Because shes attacking donald trump. Thats why. She used to be viewed as kind of a she came out and continue the conversation she had at the white house. Praising him. None of these people would have her on their shows and none of them would talk about her. Because she is looking to make a buck theyre willing to put her on an expose her because as long as youre being critical of trump they will give you a platform. The bigger issue i think is fascinating after the interview is she taped the chief of staff of the white house in the situation room. Clearly a violation of every security protocol she signed when she applied for security clearance. They did not ask one question about that on the show. They didnt ask about undermining her own security clearance. Since you brought that up we have the tape as played on nbc this morning. Lets take a listen. Do think its important to understand that if we make this departure we can all be, you can look at your time here and the white house as a year of service to the nation. And then you can go on without any type of difficulty in the future relative to your reputation. She says john kelly threatened her with those words. I think john kelly treated her with a level of respect concerning a lot of the concerns that there were rolling around the white house in terms of her recording private conversations and use of Government Resources and treatment she had. John kelly gave her an opportunity to walk away. With her dignity and respect. And how she pays him back is brings a personal recording device into the situation room in the white house. In massive violation of every security protocol. That should be the story right now. The idea that you were willing to go to that length, to do that now, who knows what else is happening . That in itself is a massive security violation. The me ask you this before we run out of time. She says after she was fired the Trump Campaign offered her money every month and she calls it hush money. Is a reality, everyone that worked on the campaign and it was part of it, signed a nondisclosure agreement to begin with. It is Standard Operating Procedure that she signed multiple times before. It is nothing more than the procedure she followed before. Clearly violated peer but she left the white house praising the president. I think the campaign wanted to continue a relationship with her based on the comments she made leaving the white house. Had they known that she could not be trusted, had they known she would turn on the president who had frankly given her the entire platform whether it was the apprentice and the white house. They probably would have offered her the job. And it was standard procedure for everyone and her, going back multiple opportunities whether it is the apprentice, the campaign and otherwise, she signed nondisclosure agreements and similar language each time. By the way we talked about this suppose a tape which no one has heard. It is been a big rumor. She quotes in the book said he never knew that. If she is also troubled by the president s racial language and look, the president did hire her, he did give her this stature before he decided to let her go through john kelly. How does she account for the fact that donald trump did so much for her career as an africanamerican woman . Again, i think if youre looking for contradictions, it is the entire book it is clearly riddled with them. You have read it . I have. Over and over again from the mere fact that she talks about the fact that she left the white house instead she resigned peanut she said she was fired. She says the present was some of the deal for the africanamerican community, lowered unemployment, he does stuff with historically black universities and colleges. He has done a lot of for opportunities in the community and yet, now she was so proud of it during her time, she was very public in her defense of what she had done and what the president has done. In a matter of months only thing that has changed was her getting a book deal. Thats it. Sean spicer, thank you for coming in on a sunday. Thank you. Ahead on mediabuzz, the latenight hose that botched a joke. At first, twitters founder gets hammered for refusing to join other tech giants in banning alex jones. He says this is a job for journalists. Here, yogi. Fortunately, theres Rocket Mortgage by quicken loans. Apply simply. Understand fully. Mortgage confidently. Get approved in as few as 8 minutes. Can start in the colon constipation and diarrhea and may be signs of an imbalance of good bacteria. Only Phillips Colon Health has this unique combination of probiotics. It helps replenish good bacteria. Get fourinone symptom defense. It had to be more than quickset for tech giants apple, facebook, spotify and youtube and alex jones on the same day. They say violated rules of hate speech, false information and conspiracy theories. With twitter the only one refusing to go along. And the info wars founder is denouncing the move. Being on person, i am literally being disappeared. We have a hightech lynch mob involved in really cyber warfare and again, stalking warfare. We back with a panel, what do you make of these tech giants acting on the same day against alex jones . Do you think they bowed to outside pressure . I think first, alex jones, is one of the most vile actors in the media landscape in america. When he has put, the sandy hook families through, is skin crawling to me. Claimant release for time that it was a hoax that there was no yes it was not even real and it did not happen. And the Parkland High School student survivors. He is an appalling person. What worries me about what we are seeing on this subject from big tech is if the plan is to go after the truly extreme french, who gets to decide what the definition of fringe is . And will and start moving closer and closer to the mainstream based on ideological differences . And are we going to apply the rules evenly and for example if alex jones is out as a hateful bigot and conspiracy theorist, to Louis Farrakhan also be out as the same thing . Who gets to make these choices and should we as consumers in my case, trust a very liberal area like Silicon Valley and those executives to make these choices fairly . Is a classic freespeech debate. In the past facebook, twitter and apple have said you know, it is not our responsible. Its a platform everyone gets to spare because of disinformation and lies answer now they are admitting they have a responsibility for content and it becomes how . Private companies. They canal whoever they want and kick out whoever they want. There publicly traded but their private sector companies. So how do you decide . Think thats part of the debate. There is already evidence if you look at people have been shadow banned from twitter or who have had youtube videos taken down for saying offensive contact but maybe it was leaning. There is already a threat of that happening. How you define what should be kicked off of social platform. Is it inciting violence . David french had a good New York Times column today or yesterday about one not use the liable standards . Stick to First Amendment and stay with current liable standards. There needs to be a real conversation because otherwise, it is going to be basically, probably banning more conservative thought. And is not right and it is not freespeech. Right and one exception i mentioned at the top is the twitter founder, defended the position of allowing him to remain on that platform. A radio interview with sean hannity. We do not shadow banned according to political ideology or content. We every model have the network, is really looking at behaviors on the network. He is taking a different position. Even though twitter has since admitted that yes, some things he has tweeted have been taken down. They did violate their standards. Right. I think twitter is more sticking to the line that they are maintaining alex jones because he has not by and large, violating their terms. One of the interesting things about youtube in particular, was that apparently, alex jones was under some kind of a 90 day posting ban and because he violated that specific thing and i think there was a 50 day maybe was facebook. Those outlets pointed to that specific violation as one of the reasons why that alex jones violated their terms. The hate speech thing is where things get hairy. I think there is not an issue when it comes to First Amendment because we discussed these are private entities. No different than frankly the nfl. And some of the debate about what is First Amendment there. We will leave that be. I think that youre right, definitely, that private entities have the right to ban and censor whomever they want. That does not make it the right thing to do. And secondly, this is a tough question for all of us to wrestle with. To what extent platforms like facebook and twitter today, represent the modern Public Square . And is it different than other actually Justice Kennedy had an opinion saying that social media is the global Public Square at this point. There is no question that it is not a monopoly but they are crucially important to public discourse. Let me put up a tweet from jack dorsey. A counselor jones acknowledged can sensationalize, journalist document information directly so people can form their own opinions. Susan, i love journalists are wild over this saying it is not our job to clean up your platform. You have to be responsible for what you allow. It is what twitter has become. It has become a forum, really. If you look at journalists they use twitter all day long. To argue and post news. It is really kind of moved to the social platform. I dont think that is, i think it is a reasonable thing for him to call on reporters or journalists to refuse some of the stuff otherwise, who will make these decisions . Why not leave it all out there i do not think it is for the judgment of the executive. Briefly, you can argue this it helped alex jones. Apple still carries his apple which surged to number three. Is a top trending app on google play. Right and zuckerberg has actually made statements about this essentially saying that it seems alex jones may have wanted to be banned in order to continue to raise his profile. And obviously its happening and hes getting a lot of viewers through periscope. Which is part of the twitter platform. The man is not conservative. He is a vile human being in my opinion. A conspiracy theorist. One more break and after that omarosa tells nbc as you heard earlier, she now denounces and we weigh in on her credibility next. T enough, t enough, our app helps monitor your spending too. 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On nbc they asked how can you defend him so vigorously for all of these years and now youre saying these terrible things . She said i had a blind spot when it came to donald trump i wanted to see the best of him. Now hes a racist and misogynist. I dont find anything she says persuasive. I think she is someone that understands her momentary self interest and pursues it very aggressively. On the apprentice she was known as the backstabbing, loving, conniving villain. And that is exactly who she is and how she is conducting so you dont think it was just for television purposes . Are currently not you can question the wisdom of bringing her into the white house. And now theyre getting burned for it. She has contradicted herself numerous times. She claimed she had no direct knowledge of hearing the tip of the president supposedly saying the nword back in the day. Now she said she heard it clear as day. I think shes a liar who will say anything. Replayed earlier, from where she secretly taped john kelly when she was getting fired. And he said a friendly departure would be best for your reputation. She said thats a threat. What in any Corporate Executive say lets do this amicably . Especially if they are forcing her out. It is not she was resigning and they said okay can we keep this quiet for whatever the reasons are behind it. They told her, you will be because he violated some serious terms of employment here. The way to live with integrity and your head held high. That is not a threat. But hell hath no fury that a person that is wrongly terminated. I think that she is really disgruntled. There is no telling what she is saying is true and if it is viable but shes definitely angry and getting a big platform. I was a hell hath no fury someone that has been terminated and has a book to sell. You know omarosa, your talked about that. Also, chuck todd asked her why she did not resign after charlottesville. Which the president came a lot of criticism for that in his handling. She has credibility as an africanamerican woman, and say i only realized now he is a racist. I think is an issue of a larger set. A large issue credibility. I have met omarosa. A handful of times, she is from my hometown. Ohio. Yes she came from a rough area. And she is a scrapper. That is what my community is. When we have a Baseball Team called the scrappers as the mascot, right . Heres a person who basically scraped her way to the top, via donald trump successes. Took it all over to the white house and now she is flipping the script, still using donald trump as a way to achieve her success for the book by creating this level of animus. What you think of sean spicer s argument . That the media are falling in love with her in this book and the fact that she was treated as a sideshow because of the antitrauma narrative . Of course he is right about that. Theres no question about that. She wrote a glowing book, like his, she would not get invited for 30 minutes on meet the press. She is spoon feeding the media precisely what they want to hear about donald trump. They are very happy to gobble it up. Put her on television, she will sell a lot of books. Everyone wins except maybe the truth. It will be temporary. They will use her for getting out the antitrauma sentiment on certain cable networks. Then she will be gone. Is a cruel business. Thank you all very much, great discussion this sunday. Still to come, Stephen Colbert actually apologizes after screwing up the facts. And you will love this. Nasty nighttime heartburn . Try new alkaseltzer pm gummies. The only fast, powerful heartburn relief plus melatonin so you can fall asleep quickly. Oh, what a relief it is when you bundle your auto and hwith esurance, you could save with their single deductible. 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Chris a little sloppiness but at least he owned up to his mistake. That is it for this addition of mediabuzz. I am howard kurtz. Check out my new stories and guests. We might corral some other people into that as well. You can subscribe at apple itunes, google play, fox news podcast. Com check out our facebook page. We post my daily columns there. Repost a lot of original content and your comments. Lets continue the conversation on twitter. howard kurtz. Thank you for watching. We are back here next sunday morning. 11 eastern. We will see you then with the latest buzz. And we begin with a fox news alert. Jeweled protests setting to begin at this noon hour. One year after the socalled unite the right rally turns so horridly deadly and ugly. In charlottesville virginia. It is called the shut it down d. C. Coalition already underway. That to counter the unite the right rally being held today. Hello everyone and welcome to americas news headquarters. I am a eric shawn. Im arthel nev