things there. he does not think the tactics are appropriate but that they're part of the process. a few minutes ago, i asked jen psaki if that means that joe biden, an expert on the process has ever been chased into a rest room. doesn't seem like he has, neil. >> neil: peter, it's very clear from his support of progress sieves and their linking these two packages, the original infrastructure bipartisan package and now this far more sweeping multi-trillion dollar package, whatever it ends up being and casting his lot with them and proving it again today by singling these two senators out. it's removed all doubt, i guess. >> and also goes to show that they can't lose any support. if there's some sort of a democratic civil war underway right now, he needs the moderates happy because he needs their votes and he needs the progressives happy. so he's starting today talking to the progressives to try to figure out what can stay in the package and what can come out. to get it lower than 3.5 trillion, they have to take a