islamic rhetoric. and as far as i know, the islamic emirates according to usama bin laden is the caliphate that he wanted to establish, isn't it? >> it's the cornerstone of the caliphate that they want to establish. usama bin laden successor is called the nucleus that they imagine they want to resurrect. washington's policy here is really morally and intellectually disgraceful. the idea that they are going to try -- that some people, we don't know if it is the -- they want to recognize it as legitimate is unbelievably disgraceful. just days after they took power in mid-august, took over most of afghanistan in mid-august, days after they took control of afghan national television and ran on documentary called "victorious force three" they glorified 9/11 on afghan national tv. so all afghans turning on the tv saw the documentary not from the respect of americans recognizing