gave this morning, this afternoon, "i did not know that president trump or others had raised vice president biden with ukrainians or had conflated the investigation of possible ukrainian corruption within investigation of the former vice president biden. "you didn't know that burisma met biden. you didn't know. we have to go through it? you were there on may 23rd with the president when he said talk to rudy, and rudy sure cared about the investigators of this which you now know meant biden. >> i understood at the time that hunter biden and vice president biden's son had been up board member for burisma. >> you didn't read that as a request to investigate the bidens at that time. on july 10th, you were in not one, but two meetings on the white house where ambassador sondland raised the