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companies cannot even claim they are defending an american value or an american interest. i think one of the things it tells us is that american business interests, if they see the almighty dollar in the hands of a foreign rival, they'll go and chase it even if it's not in the best interest of their own country. >> tucker: not in the best interest? i mean, this is our preeminent rival, enemy actually i think from their perspective on the world stage. a country that's about to overtake us economically and militarily. siding with them seems like a profound betrayal. >> it's a profound betrayal in a couple of different ways, tucker. the first is what you mentioned. i think we are in the geopolitical struggle with china unlike anything we've seen since at least the early 1930s with germany. we are not yet at physical war and hopefully of course we don't go to war with china. but we are in a struggle really for global preeminence with this country and they have ambitions to be a global superpower. that is necessarily going to take them in competition with

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