institute fellow. good to have you with us. obviously there's a lot going on. very difficult time in the world. a very difficult time for those that are battling in ukraine and those covering this story in ukraine. one of the elements here as we look at the larger picture is china. what role they play. >> i don't think unfortunately that it listen to what we say. i remember in march of 2021 they dressed jake sullivan don in anchorage. north korea has sent more missile times in history. iran sent 12 missiles and almost hit a u.s. consulate and putin sent mess sills near the border. china doesn't do anything that is not in its self-interest. so it's looking not at us or what we say. they're looking at the bulls of the battlefield. if ukraine falls, no matter the