is it underway? collins also called the scientists and doctors that signed a fringe epidemiologist. passing some articles that debunked the great barrington deck relation. one from wired titled there is no -- another from nation with the headline "focus protection, herd immunity, and other deadly delusions." collins was asked about the email exchange yesterday and he says he stands by his. >> this is before we had vaccines. and basically, i will call them fringe epidemiologist who really did not have the credentials to be making such a grand and sweeping statement were saying just what the virus run through the population and eventually then everybody will have had and it will be okay. hundreds of thousands of people would have died if we had followed that strategy. >> he wrote another email to dr. fauci on october 13th with a link to a "washington post" article. he is quoted in with a headline stating that the declaration

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