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that's not a winning message with the american public. >> laura: tom, great to see you, thanks so much. no matter what catching in the left uses to sell its plan, whether it's a great reset or build back better, this end goal is always going to be the same. it's about lowering your expectations and ultimately controlling your behavior. that includes what information you consume, where you travel, and how much. how much energy you use. and even what you eat, especially if it comes from a cow. >> we got to address factory farming, navy we shouldn't be eating a hamburger for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. >> would you support changing the dietary guidelines give up the food pyramid. >> yeah. >> to reduce red meat specifically. >> yes, i would buried >> laura: joining me now, is a nebraska cattle rancher, trade, the perfect last name for a rancher. good to see you tonight. what would it mean for the country if the left sparked a war on meat?

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