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>> jeanine: it's also an election year, but going back, why were we so willing to sacrifice the kids for the benefit of some of the adults, the teachers in particular? >> because we were scared to death. i think it's easy now to look back and say, oh, we should not of been as scared as we were. i remember a year ago, just tested positive ten days ago, a year ago exactly a year ago, my beloved nephew, bob reed died of this disease, he was 60 years old with two beautiful children, casey and tyler, beautiful wife michelle, and died. so the deep concern we have is not ill-founded, now it's a whole different ball game. but let me just finish this, the gun violence, i lived in cleveland, we have a terrible rate of murder with kids and guns in every big city coming to see what has happened across the country, when you take away the public schools, the only

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